Yeah. That's true , I guess we we probably have some time , maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we wanna do , go back to um  I don't really have any. Let me bring up something about our basic goals here , what we want to accomplish. Uh project announcement. Ts ts ts    Yeah. Not so much.


Yeah. That's true , I guess we we probably have some time , maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we wanna do , go back to um  I don't really have any. Let me bring up something about our basic goals here , what we want to accomplish. Uh project announcement. Ts ts ts    Yeah. Not so much.

All right we'll find them , we're on our own.


Yeah. That's true , I guess we we probably have some time , maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we wanna do , go back to um  I don't really have any. Let me bring up something about our basic goals here , what we want to accomplish. Uh project announcement. Ts ts ts    Yeah. Not so much.

All right we'll find them , we're on our own.

Now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all here ?


All right we'll find them , we're on our own.

Now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all here ?


Now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all here ?

I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause


I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause


I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause

Yeah I mean oh yeah right.  So initial ideas.


I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause

Yeah I mean oh yeah right.  So initial ideas.

Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal


Yeah I mean oh yeah right.  So initial ideas.

Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal


Yeah I mean oh yeah right.  So initial ideas.

Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal

right , we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things , as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do , like your microwave or your front door


Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal

right , we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things , as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do , like your microwave or your front door


right , we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things , as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do , like your microwave or your front door

or like to have everything on one thing ,


right , we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things , as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do , like your microwave or your front door

or like to have everything on one thing ,

but then , I've never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a million buttons ,


or like to have everything on one thing ,

but then , I've never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a million buttons ,


but then , I've never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a million buttons ,


But  I'm thinking  I'm thinking kind of P_D_A_ uh design


But  I'm thinking  I'm thinking kind of P_D_A_ uh design

so touch screen design rather than button


so touch screen design rather than button


so touch screen design rather than button

so that you can kind of flip around all sorts of different things.


so that you can kind of flip around all sorts of different things.


so that you can kind of flip around all sorts of different things.

isn't it. I mean like  stylist  yeah like a just a


isn't it. I mean like  stylist  yeah like a just a


isn't it. I mean like  stylist  yeah like a just a

yeah. Right so we got five minutes more to chat about this , perfect. Um so we've got this kind of an idea of a trade-off between um  uh size and functionality.


yeah. Right so we got five minutes more to chat about this , perfect. Um so we've got this kind of an idea of a trade-off between um  uh size and functionality.


yeah. Right so we got five minutes more to chat about this , perfect. Um so we've got this kind of an idea of a trade-off between um  uh size and functionality.

Right. We want it to be munt multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you're not gonna be able to tell them apart ,


Right. We want it to be munt multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you're not gonna be able to tell them apart ,


Right. We want it to be munt multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you're not gonna be able to tell them apart ,

It's gonna be too complicated , too crowded with buttons and things.


It's gonna be too complicated , too crowded with buttons and things.

I'm also gonna note for future reference this idea


It's gonna be too complicated , too crowded with buttons and things.

I'm also gonna note for future reference this idea

of um  so you  like  maybe like an L_  like a touch screen type of remote ?


I'm also gonna note for future reference this idea

of um  so you  like  maybe like an L_  like a touch screen type of remote ?


of um  so you  like  maybe like an L_  like a touch screen type of remote ?


Needs  it needs one outstanding feature to set it apart from all the other remotes.


Needs  it needs one outstanding feature to set it apart from all the other remotes.

Yeah all the other universal remotes. Um  I don't know if there's such a thing out there , I guess we could do some uh do some research on or one of us could do some research on it about whether or not there are um multi-format like um you know PAL , N_T_S_C_ , region one


Yeah all the other universal remotes. Um  I don't know if there's such a thing out there , I guess we could do some uh do some research on or one of us could do some research on it about whether or not there are um multi-format like um you know PAL , N_T_S_C_ , region one


I mean I I have a friend who has a P_D_A_


I mean I I have a friend who has a P_D_A_

that he just points at his telev any television he wants


that he just points at his telev any television he wants

and it'll figure out the  the specifications of it


and it'll figure out the  the specifications of it


I th I assume that that can be done with uh kind of around the world.


I th I assume that that can be done with uh kind of around the world.

Um all right. So. I li I'm liking that idea , this idea of a touch screen remote with multi-format features. Um.


Um all right. So. I li I'm liking that idea , this idea of a touch screen remote with multi-format features. Um.


I think , making it out of a nice material would be very important , because so many of those remotes that you see , these universal remotes look so cheap and low quality.


I think , making it out of a nice material would be very important , because so many of those remotes that you see , these universal remotes look so cheap and low quality.

Yeah. Keeping it nice and slick , would be important. And  I don't know , like , there's such a problem with losing them ,


Yeah. Keeping it nice and slick , would be important. And  I don't know , like , there's such a problem with losing them ,

that adding this whole like P_D_A_ pen business is only one more thing to lose ,


Yeah. Keeping it nice and slick , would be important. And  I don't know , like , there's such a problem with losing them ,

that adding this whole like P_D_A_ pen business is only one more thing to lose ,

so we're gonna have to be careful with what like


that adding this whole like P_D_A_ pen business is only one more thing to lose ,

so we're gonna have to be careful with what like


so we're gonna have to be careful with what like

Just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool.


Just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool.


Fi b like what are they called , those face plate things ?


We should c we should come up with a fuzzy one as well.


I think , it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have a like a locator device , maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote.


I think , it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have a like a locator device , maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote.

Mm. But if we're bundling it   unless we're selling their telly with the remote.


Mm. But if we're bundling it   unless we're selling their telly with the remote.


Well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it.


Well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it.

If you're not doing that then we can have something that just kind of rings from either


If you're not doing that then we can have something that just kind of rings from either

well there used to be those whistling devices but that's a little bit annoying.


well there used to be those whistling devices but that's a little bit annoying.

Cou could we not do something where like just a little lit like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you could place something else that you press and it makes the remote page. Kinda like how on a lot of um  uh cordless regular phones , you have a page button and it goes  ,


Cou could we not do something where like just a little lit like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you could place something else that you press and it makes the remote page. Kinda like how on a lot of um  uh cordless regular phones , you have a page button and it goes  ,


Um yeah  I think this material quality as well like I guess what we can think about what kind of um uh you know Apple 's been really successful with this surgical white kind of business or this sleek kind of


And that titanium the new silver sleek ones that's last couple of years , very much so.


And then you have to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot.


And then you have to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot.

It's important to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot over here.


And then you have to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot.

It's important to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot over here.

Okay. No , that's okay. Joost , your mouse.


It's important to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot over here.

Okay. No , that's okay. Joost , your mouse.


Okay. No , that's okay. Joost , your mouse.


You with your brilliant ideas. I don't know if I can touch the power button. Do you know how how I can wake it up ?


I closed it. That wasn that wasn't very smart , I guess.


No , I didn't restart it , I just closed it. Yes.


Great. Well , welcome to the kick-off meeting. I uh forgot to put my name over here , it's uh  it's Martin. Uh , so you all know.


Great. Well , welcome to the kick-off meeting. I uh forgot to put my name over here , it's uh  it's Martin. Uh , so you all know.

Well , this is the agenda for today. Well , the opening is what I'm doing right now.


Great. Well , welcome to the kick-off meeting. I uh forgot to put my name over here , it's uh  it's Martin. Uh , so you all know.

Well , this is the agenda for today. Well , the opening is what I'm doing right now.

Uh , we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things. Uh give some um examples of the tool training , project plan discussion and the closing. We have twenty five minutes. Okay , the project aim is to design a new remote control.


Well , this is the agenda for today. Well , the opening is what I'm doing right now.

Uh , we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things. Uh give some um examples of the tool training , project plan discussion and the closing. We have twenty five minutes. Okay , the project aim is to design a new remote control.

Uh , some of the  oje objectives are that is has to be original , trendy , and user-friendly. So now we all know what our


Uh , we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things. Uh give some um examples of the tool training , project plan discussion and the closing. We have twenty five minutes. Okay , the project aim is to design a new remote control.

Uh , some of the  oje objectives are that is has to be original , trendy , and user-friendly. So now we all know what our


Uh , some of the  oje objectives are that is has to be original , trendy , and user-friendly. So now we all know what our

goal is. Um , I  oh forget  I forget the whole acquaintance part , but we we all know each other. We all know each other's names. Joost , Guido , Antek.


goal is. Um , I  oh forget  I forget the whole acquaintance part , but we we all know each other. We all know each other's names. Joost , Guido , Antek.


Okay. I think we uh al already uh been through that part.


Okay. I think we uh al already uh been through that part.

Okay , it consists of uh three levels of design. Uh we begin with the functional design , then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design. Every uh level of design consists of some individual work , and we uh close it with a meeting. You all received an email with a example of our explanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions , and uh you p you probably read that already , so I don't have to tell you about that.


Okay , it consists of uh three levels of design. Uh we begin with the functional design , then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design. Every uh level of design consists of some individual work , and we uh close it with a meeting. You all received an email with a example of our explanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions , and uh you p you probably read that already , so I don't have to tell you about that.


Okay , it consists of uh three levels of design. Uh we begin with the functional design , then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design. Every uh level of design consists of some individual work , and we uh close it with a meeting. You all received an email with a example of our explanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions , and uh you p you probably read that already , so I don't have to tell you about that.

Okay , first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here , so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools. We have the smart-boards , uh the thes those two boards. This is the presentation boards , wh which one I'm using right now. You can uh um  there's a document folder called um the sh  shared document folder. You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here , so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen. We also have the white-board. Uh , we're gonna skip through th


Okay , first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here , so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools. We have the smart-boards , uh the thes those two boards. This is the presentation boards , wh which one I'm using right now. You can uh um  there's a document folder called um the sh  shared document folder. You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here , so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen. We also have the white-board. Uh , we're gonna skip through th

Can we see the white-board on our laptops ?


Okay , first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here , so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools. We have the smart-boards , uh the thes those two boards. This is the presentation boards , wh which one I'm using right now. You can uh um  there's a document folder called um the sh  shared document folder. You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here , so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen. We also have the white-board. Uh , we're gonna skip through th

Can we see the white-board on our laptops ?

No , no. Just on the on the screen over there.


Okay , first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here , so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools. We have the smart-boards , uh the thes those two boards. This is the presentation boards , wh which one I'm using right now. You can uh um  there's a document folder called um the sh  shared document folder. You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here , so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen. We also have the white-board. Uh , we're gonna skip through th

Can we see the white-board on our laptops ?

No , no. Just on the on the screen over there.

No , I saw I saw the file , the smart-board that X_B_K_ but


Can we see the white-board on our laptops ?

No , no. Just on the on the screen over there.

No , I saw I saw the file , the smart-board that X_B_K_ but

Oh , no. Probably is , but I don't know if the software is on the laptop . Is is  if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting , so I don't think it's  I don't know if it's important.


No , no. Just on the on the screen over there.

No , I saw I saw the file , the smart-board that X_B_K_ but

Oh , no. Probably is , but I don't know if the software is on the laptop . Is is  if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting , so I don't think it's  I don't know if it's important.


No , I saw I saw the file , the smart-board that X_B_K_ but

Oh , no. Probably is , but I don't know if the software is on the laptop . Is is  if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting , so I don't think it's  I don't know if it's important.

This an explanation of the smart-boards. There is a tool-bar over here. It's quite simple. You have the the pen function , eraser function. It's like a very simple uh paint application. Uh , we  well , we use the same file during uh the whole day , and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button. It works like this. Oh.  If pen is selected , yes.


Oh , no. Probably is , but I don't know if the software is on the laptop . Is is  if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting , so I don't think it's  I don't know if it's important.

This an explanation of the smart-boards. There is a tool-bar over here. It's quite simple. You have the the pen function , eraser function. It's like a very simple uh paint application. Uh , we  well , we use the same file during uh the whole day , and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button. It works like this. Oh.  If pen is selected , yes.


This an explanation of the smart-boards. There is a tool-bar over here. It's quite simple. You have the the pen function , eraser function. It's like a very simple uh paint application. Uh , we  well , we use the same file during uh the whole day , and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button. It works like this. Oh.  If pen is selected , yes.


This an explanation of the smart-boards. There is a tool-bar over here. It's quite simple. You have the the pen function , eraser function. It's like a very simple uh paint application. Uh , we  well , we use the same file during uh the whole day , and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button. It works like this. Oh.  If pen is selected , yes.

It's not  But it is pen. It's not working like a pen yet.


It's not  But it is pen. It's not working like a pen yet.


It's doing some stuff now. So you can use a pen.


It's doing some stuff now. So you can use a pen.

You can use an eraser. And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks , and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward , which y you have to select pen format. And then select current colour or line width. So , it's quite easy. Uh well , now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools. Right , we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards. Uh , every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics ,


It's doing some stuff now. So you can use a pen.

You can use an eraser. And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks , and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward , which y you have to select pen format. And then select current colour or line width. So , it's quite easy. Uh well , now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools. Right , we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards. Uh , every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics ,

on blank sheets with different colours , with different pen widths. Uh , I'll start off then.


You can use an eraser. And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks , and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward , which y you have to select pen format. And then select current colour or line width. So , it's quite easy. Uh well , now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools. Right , we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards. Uh , every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics ,

on blank sheets with different colours , with different pen widths. Uh , I'll start off then.

I'll use this uh same sheet. Alright. Oh , let me think. Different colours. Oh.


You can use an eraser. And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks , and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward , which y you have to select pen format. And then select current colour or line width. So , it's quite easy. Uh well , now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools. Right , we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards. Uh , every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics ,

on blank sheets with different colours , with different pen widths. Uh , I'll start off then.

I'll use this uh same sheet. Alright. Oh , let me think. Different colours. Oh.

Well , I'm gonna draw um a p piranha. Uh , a fish.


on blank sheets with different colours , with different pen widths. Uh , I'll start off then.

I'll use this uh same sheet. Alright. Oh , let me think. Different colours. Oh.

Well , I'm gonna draw um a p piranha. Uh , a fish.


I'll use this uh same sheet. Alright. Oh , let me think. Different colours. Oh.

Well , I'm gonna draw um a p piranha. Uh , a fish.


Well , I'm gonna draw um a p piranha. Uh , a fish.

Mm-hmm. I'm gonna use some different colour  now.


Mm-hmm. I'm gonna use some different colour  now.


Mm-hmm. I'm gonna use some different colour  now.

Some  a little white. Looks like a fish. Think it is. Oh.


Mm-hmm. I'm gonna use some different colour  now.

Some  a little white. Looks like a fish. Think it is. Oh.

Oh.  Uh , colour. This is black ? I think so.


Some  a little white. Looks like a fish. Think it is. Oh.

Oh.  Uh , colour. This is black ? I think so.


Some  a little white. Looks like a fish. Think it is. Oh.

Oh.  Uh , colour. This is black ? I think so.

Oh. Oh , this is just uh  useless uh drawings but


Oh.  Uh , colour. This is black ? I think so.

Oh. Oh , this is just uh  useless uh drawings but

Oh teeth. I need teeth.  Well , they're not supposed to be green , or whatever colour this is.


Oh. Oh , this is just uh  useless uh drawings but

Oh teeth. I need teeth.  Well , they're not supposed to be green , or whatever colour this is.


Oh. Oh , this is just uh  useless uh drawings but

Oh teeth. I need teeth.  Well , they're not supposed to be green , or whatever colour this is.

Okay. What was uh  I have su to sum up its favourite characteris


Oh teeth. I need teeth.  Well , they're not supposed to be green , or whatever colour this is.

Okay. What was uh  I have su to sum up its favourite characteris


Okay. What was uh  I have su to sum up its favourite characteris

Well , I like its uh sharp  razor sharp teeth.  Plus , uh the the big uh forehead and uh a small uh , well a small actual face. And I like its overall uh aggressive look and  Well , that's what I like about uh piranha. I think that's kind of what uh the intention should be.


Well , I like its uh sharp  razor sharp teeth.  Plus , uh the the big uh forehead and uh a small uh , well a small actual face. And I like its overall uh aggressive look and  Well , that's what I like about uh piranha. I think that's kind of what uh the intention should be.


You go , Guido ? Okay. Uh , make a new sheet. Uh , it's by pressing on blank.


And uh  so in the format menu you can choose the different uh colours and uh pen widths.


And uh  so in the format menu you can choose the different uh colours and uh pen widths.

control. Uh  Ah , purple. Um , I don't know what my uh favourite uh animal is ,


control. Uh  Ah , purple. Um , I don't know what my uh favourite uh animal is ,

but the easiest animal I can think is is a bird.


but the easiest animal I can think is is a bird.


Isn't it quite  it's a little bit light.


Isn't it quite  it's a little bit light.

A small one. Uh , line width. Two ? Three. Oh that's okay. That's another one.


Isn't it quite  it's a little bit light.

A small one. Uh , line width. Two ? Three. Oh that's okay. That's another one.

Well , tell us something about uh your favourite characteristics of these uh particular birds.


A small one. Uh , line width. Two ? Three. Oh that's okay. That's another one.

Well , tell us something about uh your favourite characteristics of these uh particular birds.


Well , tell us something about uh your favourite characteristics of these uh particular birds.

Yeah , it's uh the most simple uh animal I know , I think.


Yeah , it's uh the most simple uh animal I know , I think.

Um , I don't know. Maybe because uh there's there's some s uh free uh maybe in the sky or something like that.


Um , I don't know. Maybe because uh there's there's some s uh free uh maybe in the sky or something like that.


We get your point. Okay. Who wants to be next ?


I haven't got a favourite animal too , so


I'll draw a penguin.  Yeah.  I'll draw a penguin. Whatever. I can't draw , so you can start to laugh already.


Hey , it's blue. No. Whatever. Um , I like its ugliness


Hey , it's blue. No. Whatever. Um , I like its ugliness

and uh  Yeah , whatever. The way it walks or whatever.


and uh  Yeah , whatever. The way it walks or whatever.


I'm going to draw a cat. I don't know why , but a cat is a very uh smart animal.


I'm going to draw a cat. I don't know why , but a cat is a very uh smart animal.

Which is not as the case with uh with bingwings and


Which is not as the case with uh with bingwings and


It's not very uh   very good drawn , but you can see a cat from it.


It's not very uh   very good drawn , but you can see a cat from it.

I don't think uh I don't think uh Darwin would agree with that.


I don't think uh I don't think uh Darwin would agree with that.


He's crying because it's ugl because of his ugliness.


and then we are uh through the tool training , I guess.


and then we are uh through the tool training , I guess.

Okay , this is uh something about the project finance. The selling price of our remote control is gonna be twenty five Euros. And our profit aim is fifteen million Euros. We're very ambitious on this one.


Okay , this is uh something about the project finance. The selling price of our remote control is gonna be twenty five Euros. And our profit aim is fifteen million Euros. We're very ambitious on this one.

The market range is international , so it's gonna be sold world-wide , and the production cost should be a maximum of twelve Euro fifty per remote control. So that's clear.   Yeah ?


The market range is international , so it's gonna be sold world-wide , and the production cost should be a maximum of twelve Euro fifty per remote control. So that's clear.   Yeah ?

Okay , we're now gonna discuss some stuff when  well , we're gonna brainstorm about uh what kind of kemoro romo remote control it's gonna be. Uh , well tell me about your experiences with the remote controls. Do you have uh  know what good experiences with remote controls ? Or do they annoy you sometimes ?


Okay , we're now gonna discuss some stuff when  well , we're gonna brainstorm about uh what kind of kemoro romo remote control it's gonna be. Uh , well tell me about your experiences with the remote controls. Do you have uh  know what good experiences with remote controls ? Or do they annoy you sometimes ?


Okay , we're now gonna discuss some stuff when  well , we're gonna brainstorm about uh what kind of kemoro romo remote control it's gonna be. Uh , well tell me about your experiences with the remote controls. Do you have uh  know what good experiences with remote controls ? Or do they annoy you sometimes ?

Are they difficult to understand , or maybe they don't interact with different kind of uh equipment very well ?


Are they difficult to understand , or maybe they don't interact with different kind of uh equipment very well ?

I don't th I don't think the four of us got problems with remote controls ,


I don't th I don't think the four of us got problems with remote controls ,

but if you see elderly people , all these buttons , and then they buy new T_V_ because their previous one was stolen or whatever.


but if you see elderly people , all these buttons , and then they buy new T_V_ because their previous one was stolen or whatever.


but if you see elderly people , all these buttons , and then they buy new T_V_ because their previous one was stolen or whatever.

And then a totally different remote control with with different functions on different places , and half of the functions a are removed , or whatever. Uh , so I think what we need is is a clear uh remote control with uh grouped buttons , you know. All th all the buttons which apply to the text functions in in one uh


And then a totally different remote control with with different functions on different places , and half of the functions a are removed , or whatever. Uh , so I think what we need is is a clear uh remote control with uh grouped buttons , you know. All th all the buttons which apply to the text functions in in one uh


And then a totally different remote control with with different functions on different places , and half of the functions a are removed , or whatever. Uh , so I think what we need is is a clear uh remote control with uh grouped buttons , you know. All th all the buttons which apply to the text functions in in one uh

Well , one area or whatever , not like the button to enter text on top of the remote control and the button to um , yeah , to minimise it to this this   or whatever o o other functions  totally somewhere else.


Well , one area or whatever , not like the button to enter text on top of the remote control and the button to um , yeah , to minimise it to this this   or whatever o o other functions  totally somewhere else.


And same for the for the volume buttons and the the t


And same for the for the volume buttons and the the t

And uh , is it gonna be a remote control that's um  what it can be used for different kind of equipment , like your T_V_ and your home stereo ?


And same for the for the volume buttons and the the t

And uh , is it gonna be a remote control that's um  what it can be used for different kind of equipment , like your T_V_ and your home stereo ?

Well I was I was thinking uh since a T_V_ is uh mostly used together with a V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player or recorder , and not with a stereo , I think it should be good to include functions for V_C_R_s and D_V_D_ players , recorders.


And uh , is it gonna be a remote control that's um  what it can be used for different kind of equipment , like your T_V_ and your home stereo ?

Well I was I was thinking uh since a T_V_ is uh mostly used together with a V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player or recorder , and not with a stereo , I think it should be good to include functions for V_C_R_s and D_V_D_ players , recorders.


Well I was I was thinking uh since a T_V_ is uh mostly used together with a V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player or recorder , and not with a stereo , I think it should be good to include functions for V_C_R_s and D_V_D_ players , recorders.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But uh , the D_V_D_ players and home cinema sets often double as stereo hi-fi sets probably.


Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But uh , the D_V_D_ players and home cinema sets often double as stereo hi-fi sets probably.


I don't know. Hi-fi set is uh not often used uh as I know of in combination with television.


I don't know. Hi-fi set is uh not often used uh as I know of in combination with television.

It's only for television , I thought. Not


It's only for television , I thought. Not


It's only for television , I thought. Not

I thought it was only for television. So so we probably don't have to have to uh have the functions for D_V_D_ player or V_C_R_.


I thought it was only for television. So so we probably don't have to have to uh have the functions for D_V_D_ player or V_C_R_.

Yes , it is only for television , but uh


I thought it was only for television. So so we probably don't have to have to uh have the functions for D_V_D_ player or V_C_R_.

Yes , it is only for television , but uh

So wha what  What wha  what uh what document


I thought it was only for television. So so we probably don't have to have to uh have the functions for D_V_D_ player or V_C_R_.

Yes , it is only for television , but uh

So wha what  What wha  what uh what document

Well  well we we're gonna brainstorm about that. If we think it's useful , we do it.


Yes , it is only for television , but uh

So wha what  What wha  what uh what document

Well  well we we're gonna brainstorm about that. If we think it's useful , we do it.

But , where where did it uh  Where did you find that ?


So wha what  What wha  what uh what document

Well  well we we're gonna brainstorm about that. If we think it's useful , we do it.

But , where where did it uh  Where did you find that ?


Well  well we we're gonna brainstorm about that. If we think it's useful , we do it.

But , where where did it uh  Where did you find that ?


But , where where did it uh  Where did you find that ?


That's right. It's a television remote control.


That's right. It's a television remote control.

But I was thinking since it is useful with D_V_D_


But I was thinking since it is useful with D_V_D_

Yeah , but most television remote controls support other functions as well. So we can


Yeah , but most television remote controls support other functions as well. So we can


Okay , uh but uh we've gonna put some a uh is is it so user-friendliness , is a is a pri priority in this case , or


Well , this the maybe is uh some aspect of the  uh , or or some point at at which we can excel by making it very useful.


Well , this the maybe is uh some aspect of the  uh , or or some point at at which we can excel by making it very useful.

That w Well , then you're you're the usability uh man , so this uh gonna be a very important task for you then.


That w Well , then you're you're the usability uh man , so this uh gonna be a very important task for you then.


That w Well , then you're you're the usability uh man , so this uh gonna be a very important task for you then.

Okay. Well , other ideas ? How can we make it trendy or something ? Do uh by just sh shape and the look of it ?


Okay. Well , other ideas ? How can we make it trendy or something ? Do uh by just sh shape and the look of it ?


I don't know. Or someth something special , like uh M_P_ three player inside of it , or uh


I don't know. Or someth something special , like uh M_P_ three player inside of it , or uh

Oh , well then the production costs are gonna be too high probably.


I don't know. Or someth something special , like uh M_P_ three player inside of it , or uh

Oh , well then the production costs are gonna be too high probably.

Uh , I th I think yo we have to keep it simple , to get a whole market.


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Uh , I th I think yo we have to keep it simple , to get a whole market.


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Uh , I th I think yo we have to keep it simple , to get a whole market.

Okay. Maybe with different type of fronts or uh


Uh , I th I think yo we have to keep it simple , to get a whole market.

Okay. Maybe with different type of fronts or uh

It's international , so we have to use a standard.


Okay. Maybe with different type of fronts or uh

It's international , so we have to use a standard.

Well , m has to be something  spectacular or uh one which makes it


It's international , so we have to use a standard.

Well , m has to be something  spectacular or uh one which makes it

We gonna skip back to the goals probably. Uh ,


Well , m has to be something  spectacular or uh one which makes it

We gonna skip back to the goals probably. Uh ,


We gonna skip back to the goals probably. Uh ,

original , trendly , and user-friendly  Well , we al also already talked about user-friendliness.


original , trendly , and user-friendly  Well , we al also already talked about user-friendliness.

No , well something trendy and original , well that that goes hand in hand I guess. When something is original , it tends to be trendy , probably ,


No , well something trendy and original , well that that goes hand in hand I guess. When something is original , it tends to be trendy , probably ,

or we should make it combination of that. 'Kay , so you   the um technical part of the process is something you're gonna look after for , so you have to think about what kind of uh equipment you want to uh , you know , you want to manage with it. Well , and that's an important part for you then , with gogors regards to the user-friendly part of it.


or we should make it combination of that. 'Kay , so you   the um technical part of the process is something you're gonna look after for , so you have to think about what kind of uh equipment you want to uh , you know , you want to manage with it. Well , and that's an important part for you then , with gogors regards to the user-friendly part of it.

Well , and you uh should look out for what makes it trendy.  Well , you know , y like some special feature. Or some   Does it does it gets some gadgetness or something.


Well , and you uh should look out for what makes it trendy.  Well , you know , y like some special feature. Or some   Does it does it gets some gadgetness or something.

Okay. Well , the closing. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Individual , I think so. The the Industrial Designer will w or the working design , of course , we will uh  Already s said that. The User Interface Designer   is it a User Inter User Interface


Okay. Well , the closing. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Individual , I think so. The the Industrial Designer will w or the working design , of course , we will uh  Already s said that. The User Interface Designer   is it a User Inter User Interface


Okay. Well , the closing. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Individual , I think so. The the Industrial Designer will w or the working design , of course , we will uh  Already s said that. The User Interface Designer   is it a User Inter User Interface

the technical functions design. And the Management Expert of uh  the Marketing Expert. User requirements specifi Well , this one was already clear to us. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. I don't know how much time we have left.


the technical functions design. And the Management Expert of uh  the Marketing Expert. User requirements specifi Well , this one was already clear to us. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. I don't know how much time we have left.

Oh , not many I guess. We started at twelve.


Oh , not many I guess. We started at twelve.

And it said uh five minutes , so we got four and a half.


And it said uh five minutes , so we got four and a half.


Yeah , close it. I'm gonna make some minutes or take some minutes.


Yeah , close it. I'm gonna make some minutes or take some minutes.

And uh it's it's clear you can put the stuff in the project documents presentations.


And uh it's it's clear you can put the stuff in the project documents presentations.


And uh it's it's clear you can put the stuff in the project documents presentations.

Project joc project documents is for showing uh on the white-board.


Project joc project documents is for showing uh on the white-board.

Yeah. Yeah , but we're all familiar with uh uh Microsoft PowerPoint , are we ?


Yeah. Yeah , but we're all familiar with uh uh Microsoft PowerPoint , are we ?


or uh or sh or should we uh  or is important that we leave at exact uh


We'll see each other in uh thirty minutes.


Okay. Right. Conceptual design meeting. Right. Okay , so  Right well um from the last meeting  I was trying to send you the minutes , but uh it didn't work out too well , so maybe in sort of um quick summary of the last uh meeting , I can quickly give you what we what we had.

Uh right , so  Wishing I hadn't closed the damn  Right so we had the fact that we're gonna have the the logo uh the company logo in its uh colour scheme incorporated onto the the device the remote device. We had uh made our decisions about uh made our decisions about uh the device itself , that it was gonna be simple to make it uh enable us to complete the project in time. We're gonna have uh effectively two pages , a front page which had the uh features that the uh the customers most wanted , and then the uh the backup features on the second page so that it could uh meet the technical requirements. And the customers wouldn't have to look at them too often , only as and when required. So. So basically what decisions uh have we uh made ? Uh have there been any uh changes ?

I think we all have a presentation again ,


Uh right , so  Wishing I hadn't closed the damn  Right so we had the fact that we're gonna have the the logo uh the company logo in its uh colour scheme incorporated onto the the device the remote device. We had uh made our decisions about uh made our decisions about uh the device itself , that it was gonna be simple to make it uh enable us to complete the project in time. We're gonna have uh effectively two pages , a front page which had the uh features that the uh the customers most wanted , and then the uh the backup features on the second page so that it could uh meet the technical requirements. And the customers wouldn't have to look at them too often , only as and when required. So. So basically what decisions uh have we uh made ? Uh have there been any uh changes ?

I think we all have a presentation again ,


I think we all have a presentation again ,


I see  this a little more smoothly than the last one.


I see  this a little more smoothly than the last one.

Okay right , let's get started. Um basically the uh for the  Um I'll  back actually. For the components design , um next step is basically the the way the remote's gonna work is still the same idea as before. We still have the user interface which is all the buttons we're gonna incorporate. Then there is a chip and still the sender. So um yes  including the power s supply as well. Um I'll go on to my findings in each of these areas. Uh first in the power supply , we have the option of just the standard battery , um.  There's a dynamo. Any of you think of kind of like the the old torches which you wind up  um. There's a kinetic option , which if any of you've seen those new watches which you kind of you power up by waving around , um it just requires a small amount of movement which would mean the batteries wouldn't have to be replaced. Um that's one option ,


I see  this a little more smoothly than the last one.

Okay right , let's get started. Um basically the uh for the  Um I'll  back actually. For the components design , um next step is basically the the way the remote's gonna work is still the same idea as before. We still have the user interface which is all the buttons we're gonna incorporate. Then there is a chip and still the sender. So um yes  including the power s supply as well. Um I'll go on to my findings in each of these areas. Uh first in the power supply , we have the option of just the standard battery , um.  There's a dynamo. Any of you think of kind of like the the old torches which you wind up  um. There's a kinetic option , which if any of you've seen those new watches which you kind of you power up by waving around , um it just requires a small amount of movement which would mean the batteries wouldn't have to be replaced. Um that's one option ,

but I think that was gonna cost a little more. And then there's solar cells. Um as a final option. For the buttons , we have um an integrated push button , which is  Oh just to say all all these are um supplied by Real Reaction. So I guess for the ease of for quickness and ease we should take them from at least like one of these options.


Okay right , let's get started. Um basically the uh for the  Um I'll  back actually. For the components design , um next step is basically the the way the remote's gonna work is still the same idea as before. We still have the user interface which is all the buttons we're gonna incorporate. Then there is a chip and still the sender. So um yes  including the power s supply as well. Um I'll go on to my findings in each of these areas. Uh first in the power supply , we have the option of just the standard battery , um.  There's a dynamo. Any of you think of kind of like the the old torches which you wind up  um. There's a kinetic option , which if any of you've seen those new watches which you kind of you power up by waving around , um it just requires a small amount of movement which would mean the batteries wouldn't have to be replaced. Um that's one option ,

but I think that was gonna cost a little more. And then there's solar cells. Um as a final option. For the buttons , we have um an integrated push button , which is  Oh just to say all all these are um supplied by Real Reaction. So I guess for the ease of for quickness and ease we should take them from at least like one of these options.


but I think that was gonna cost a little more. And then there's solar cells. Um as a final option. For the buttons , we have um an integrated push button , which is  Oh just to say all all these are um supplied by Real Reaction. So I guess for the ease of for quickness and ease we should take them from at least like one of these options.

Um so for the buttons there's an integrated push button , which I guess is just the same as the standard ones. This says it's uh similar to uh the button on the mouse for a normal  for like uh like modern computer. Um there's a scroll wheel which is  you know the new mouse has just got like the centre section which you can scroll up and down , which may be for the volume.


Um so for the buttons there's an integrated push button , which I guess is just the same as the standard ones. This says it's uh similar to uh the button on the mouse for a normal  for like uh like modern computer. Um there's a scroll wheel which is  you know the new mouse has just got like the centre section which you can scroll up and down , which may be for the volume.


Um one issue for the buttons is , depending on which material we use , if we use rubber buttons then it requires a rubber case , so we have to take that into consideration. Um moving on to the printed s


Um one issue for the buttons is , depending on which material we use , if we use rubber buttons then it requires a rubber case , so we have to take that into consideration. Um moving on to the printed s

I th I think the there wasn't too much difference in the cost , that that related to the actual buttons , but it does affect the printed circuit board. Um which is the next section. Basically for the circuit board which is the middle , it's just  see it down there the chips like the like the workings of the actual um of the remote.


I th I think the there wasn't too much difference in the cost , that that related to the actual buttons , but it does affect the printed circuit board. Um which is the next section. Basically for the circuit board which is the middle , it's just  see it down there the chips like the like the workings of the actual um of the remote.


I th I think the there wasn't too much difference in the cost , that that related to the actual buttons , but it does affect the printed circuit board. Um which is the next section. Basically for the circuit board which is the middle , it's just  see it down there the chips like the like the workings of the actual um of the remote.

The firm supplies a simple , a regular and an advanced um circuit board. And there's different prices according to each. So if we've got the scroll wheel for one of the buttons , that would require a slightly more advanced circuit board than if we just had a standard um push button.


The firm supplies a simple , a regular and an advanced um circuit board. And there's different prices according to each. So if we've got the scroll wheel for one of the buttons , that would require a slightly more advanced circuit board than if we just had a standard um push button.

Um one final thing we came up with was some information on the speech recognition. There's a small unit available through the company um which obviously would be an extra cost , but it wouldn't affect the size of the remote too much. Um and I guess that would require a more advanced circuit board , so there is an extra price in that sense. There is th sorry an extra cost in that sense. Um going to my personal preferences , um I thought possibly for power we could use kinetic um which is the idea of the watches um that you move you move the remote around to power it up. And this would avoid batteries running out , having to replace batteries and such like. Um for the buttons , I thought we'd probably get away with just having the standard um push buttons rather than the scroll wheel. Um and for the circuit board , again depends on which features we want in the actual in the remote. So if we wanted the scroll wheel and wanted the voice recognition , um then we'd have to get a a more costly circuit board. And that's it.


Um one final thing we came up with was some information on the speech recognition. There's a small unit available through the company um which obviously would be an extra cost , but it wouldn't affect the size of the remote too much. Um and I guess that would require a more advanced circuit board , so there is an extra price in that sense. There is th sorry an extra cost in that sense. Um going to my personal preferences , um I thought possibly for power we could use kinetic um which is the idea of the watches um that you move you move the remote around to power it up. And this would avoid batteries running out , having to replace batteries and such like. Um for the buttons , I thought we'd probably get away with just having the standard um push buttons rather than the scroll wheel. Um and for the circuit board , again depends on which features we want in the actual in the remote. So if we wanted the scroll wheel and wanted the voice recognition , um then we'd have to get a a more costly circuit board. And that's it.

with the printed circuit boards you were going for the


with the printed circuit boards you were going for the

Um i it kind of depends um if we're gonna have the speech recognition , we'd have to probably get an advanced one. I'm guessing.


Um i it kind of depends um if we're gonna have the speech recognition , we'd have to probably get an advanced one. I'm guessing.

Uh but I don't know , so that is something I'll have to look into.


Uh but I don't know , so that is something I'll have to look into.

Um that's a that's a decision for all of us. Um.


Uh but I don't know , so that is something I'll have to look into.

Um that's a that's a decision for all of us. Um.

So are we able to make that decision now in a sense that this is the point at which we're discussing that issue ,


Um that's a that's a decision for all of us. Um.

So are we able to make that decision now in a sense that this is the point at which we're discussing that issue ,


So are we able to make that decision now in a sense that this is the point at which we're discussing that issue ,

so would it not be best to  rather than  I mean one way is to do each of the presentations and then make decisions going back to the various presentations as they were. The other way would be to do the presentation


so would it not be best to  rather than  I mean one way is to do each of the presentations and then make decisions going back to the various presentations as they were. The other way would be to do the presentation


so would it not be best to  rather than  I mean one way is to do each of the presentations and then make decisions going back to the various presentations as they were. The other way would be to do the presentation

and then make the decision at that point in time.


and then make the decision at that point in time.

Yeah , that's probably a better one , to discuss it straight away.


and then make the decision at that point in time.

Yeah , that's probably a better one , to discuss it straight away.

'Cause at that point then you've got the details up there , so if we wanted to know for instance that the scroll wheel required the regular  and what required advance. Then if we were able to see that down then we could make the decision at that point in time


Yeah , that's probably a better one , to discuss it straight away.

'Cause at that point then you've got the details up there , so if we wanted to know for instance that the scroll wheel required the regular  and what required advance. Then if we were able to see that down then we could make the decision at that point in time


Yeah , that's probably a better one , to discuss it straight away.

'Cause at that point then you've got the details up there , so if we wanted to know for instance that the scroll wheel required the regular  and what required advance. Then if we were able to see that down then we could make the decision at that point in time

and then that would be the end of that issue. Does that make sense ?


'Cause at that point then you've got the details up there , so if we wanted to know for instance that the scroll wheel required the regular  and what required advance. Then if we were able to see that down then we could make the decision at that point in time

and then that would be the end of that issue. Does that make sense ?


and then that would be the end of that issue. Does that make sense ?

Um I have a lot of the information there.


Um I have a lot of the information there.


Unless you want to plug it back in to yours.


Unless you want to plug it back in to yours.

Um. We could do , yeah. Um yeah we should .


Unless you want to plug it back in to yours.

Um. We could do , yeah. Um yeah we should .

As I say it only specified that we need a more advanced circuit board for the scroll wheel ,


Um. We could do , yeah. Um yeah we should .

As I say it only specified that we need a more advanced circuit board for the scroll wheel ,

it didn't  The voice recognition came as a separate piece of information. Um.


As I say it only specified that we need a more advanced circuit board for the scroll wheel ,

it didn't  The voice recognition came as a separate piece of information. Um.

No the scroll wheel required the regular , so the


it didn't  The voice recognition came as a separate piece of information. Um.

No the scroll wheel required the regular , so the

Yeah if if you  down um. It's just this bit at the bottom which I've highlighted ,


No the scroll wheel required the regular , so the

Yeah if if you  down um. It's just this bit at the bottom which I've highlighted ,

but the scroll wheel requires a mini m minimally a regular chip ,


Yeah if if you  down um. It's just this bit at the bottom which I've highlighted ,

but the scroll wheel requires a mini m minimally a regular chip ,


but the scroll wheel requires a mini m minimally a regular chip ,

Okay. The display requires an advanced chip


Okay. The display requires an advanced chip

the display requires an advanced chip which in turn is more expense.


Okay. The display requires an advanced chip

the display requires an advanced chip which in turn is more expense.

Also the display's for something else which we decided against. Um but that bit


the display requires an advanced chip which in turn is more expense.

Also the display's for something else which we decided against. Um but that bit


the display requires an advanced chip which in turn is more expense.

Also the display's for something else which we decided against. Um but that bit

And note that the push button just requires a simple chip , so that would keep the price down.


Also the display's for something else which we decided against. Um but that bit

And note that the push button just requires a simple chip , so that would keep the price down.


And note that the push button just requires a simple chip , so that would keep the price down.

Yeah , and if we're going for sleek and sexy , I think a scroll wheel is maybe a bit kinda bulky ?


Yeah , and if we're going for sleek and sexy , I think a scroll wheel is maybe a bit kinda bulky ?

I I've got um pictures well I've seen pictures with it kind of sticking off the side of it ,


I I've got um pictures well I've seen pictures with it kind of sticking off the side of it ,


I I've got um pictures well I've seen pictures with it kind of sticking off the side of it ,

'Kay. So maybe just a simple push button , and that would cut costs on the


'Kay. So maybe just a simple push button , and that would cut costs on the

So. So we're going for p Okay. So  is um


'Kay. So maybe just a simple push button , and that would cut costs on the

So. So we're going for p Okay. So  is um

So are we going for the w are we going for the simple one , are we ?


So. So we're going for p Okay. So  is um

So are we going for the w are we going for the simple one , are we ?


So are we going for the w are we going for the simple one , are we ?


Did everyone get this on the speech recognition ? The um it was basically what we said before , the idea that you record in a set message , and then it picks up that message um and replies to you.


Did everyone get this on the speech recognition ? The um it was basically what we said before , the idea that you record in a set message , and then it picks up that message um and replies to you.

So it is basically the concept we discussed before. Um but then we don't know for sure whether it would require a more complicated circuit board.


So it is basically the concept we discussed before. Um but then we don't know for sure whether it would require a more complicated circuit board.

I'm guessing it would , but  got like the definite information. Maybe we should go on what we're certain of rather than


So it is basically the concept we discussed before. Um but then we don't know for sure whether it would require a more complicated circuit board.

I'm guessing it would , but  got like the definite information. Maybe we should go on what we're certain of rather than

So if we go for the simple push button , so effectively we're going for the simple printed circuit board are we ? Or are we going for the regular ?


So it is basically the concept we discussed before. Um but then we don't know for sure whether it would require a more complicated circuit board.

I'm guessing it would , but  got like the definite information. Maybe we should go on what we're certain of rather than

So if we go for the simple push button , so effectively we're going for the simple printed circuit board are we ? Or are we going for the regular ?

Um if it's just the push button then it just needs the simple circuit board.


I'm guessing it would , but  got like the definite information. Maybe we should go on what we're certain of rather than

So if we go for the simple push button , so effectively we're going for the simple printed circuit board are we ? Or are we going for the regular ?

Um if it's just the push button then it just needs the simple circuit board.

Mm-mm. But is there any other   I mean okay , that's true for the  for for that element , but we have to take all  el elements into consideration. And so if there is one element that requires the more expensive one , or say the regular one , or the more advanced , then that would have to be the same for all of them. S


So if we go for the simple push button , so effectively we're going for the simple printed circuit board are we ? Or are we going for the regular ?

Um if it's just the push button then it just needs the simple circuit board.

Mm-mm. But is there any other   I mean okay , that's true for the  for for that element , but we have to take all  el elements into consideration. And so if there is one element that requires the more expensive one , or say the regular one , or the more advanced , then that would have to be the same for all of them. S


Um if it's just the push button then it just needs the simple circuit board.

Mm-mm. But is there any other   I mean okay , that's true for the  for for that element , but we have to take all  el elements into consideration. And so if there is one element that requires the more expensive one , or say the regular one , or the more advanced , then that would have to be the same for all of them. S


Mm-mm. But is there any other   I mean okay , that's true for the  for for that element , but we have to take all  el elements into consideration. And so if there is one element that requires the more expensive one , or say the regular one , or the more advanced , then that would have to be the same for all of them. S

I suppose we need we need to find out what circuit board that requires , maybe before we  m make a decision.


I suppose we need we need to find out what circuit board that requires , maybe before we  m make a decision.


I suppose we need we need to find out what circuit board that requires , maybe before we  m make a decision.

But the way that I interpret that um it doesn't seem to send out a signal to the telly , it just  it's like a parrot just rep reply replying to your message.


But the way that I interpret that um it doesn't seem to send out a signal to the telly , it just  it's like a parrot just rep reply replying to your message.


But the way that I interpret that um it doesn't seem to send out a signal to the telly , it just  it's like a parrot just rep reply replying to your message.

So maybe that would be something separate , yeah.


So maybe that would be something separate , yeah.

So I don't think it would effect our circuit board.


So I don't think it would effect our circuit board.

Okay , so we'd have a simple circuit board


Okay , so we'd have a simple circuit board

and that would be an extra that would be in addition to it.


and that would be an extra that would be in addition to it.

And I don't think you could really perform any of the remote functions with it.


And I don't think you could really perform any of the remote functions with it.


And I don't think you could really perform any of the remote functions with it.

'Cause the example that they've given there is good morning coffee machine , good morning Jo.


'Cause the example that they've given there is good morning coffee machine , good morning Jo.

It might be useful to say like where are you remote. Here I am , Jo.


It might be useful to say like where are you remote. Here I am , Jo.


It might be useful to say like where are you remote. Here I am , Jo.

But I think that's maybe as far as that one could go ?


But I think that's maybe as far as that one could go ?


But I think that's maybe as far as that one could go ?

Yeah that makes sense , so we'd stick with the simple circuit board and then think of the speech recognition as an extra an extra possibility.


Yeah that makes sense , so we'd stick with the simple circuit board and then think of the speech recognition as an extra an extra possibility.


Yeah that makes sense , so we'd stick with the simple circuit board and then think of the speech recognition as an extra an extra possibility.

Simple circuit board. Simple push button. Okay. W w kinetic.


Simple circuit board. Simple push button. Okay. W w kinetic.


Simple circuit board. Simple push button. Okay. W w kinetic.

You were you were wanting to go for the kinetic power supply.


Simple circuit board. Simple push button. Okay. W w kinetic.

You were you were wanting to go for the kinetic power supply.

I think it said the cost of that isn't too much.


You were you were wanting to go for the kinetic power supply.

I think it said the cost of that isn't too much.

Um yeah I I thought so just for  just for ease of not having to replace the batteries.


I think it said the cost of that isn't too much.

Um yeah I I thought so just for  just for ease of not having to replace the batteries.


Um yeah I I thought so just for  just for ease of not having to replace the batteries.


It's um I think it works on the basis they have some kind of ball bearings inside. It's um it's some on watches which you you kind of you shake to power it up. Somehow the mechanism inside powers up through movement.


It's um I think it works on the basis they have some kind of ball bearings inside. It's um it's some on watches which you you kind of you shake to power it up. Somehow the mechanism inside powers up through movement.

So you'd you'd move the remote around a little bit and then that powers it up to use it.


So you'd you'd move the remote around a little bit and then that powers it up to use it.


So you'd you'd move the remote around a little bit and then that powers it up to use it.

So the speech recognition was  Are we going for speech recognition ? No ? 'Cause that required the advanced


So the speech recognition was  Are we going for speech recognition ? No ? 'Cause that required the advanced

Um I think it would be helpful to find it , but I don't think it'd um


So the speech recognition was  Are we going for speech recognition ? No ? 'Cause that required the advanced

Um I think it would be helpful to find it , but I don't think it'd um

Uh yeah I think  did we decide it didn't affect the circuit board , it just affected


Um I think it would be helpful to find it , but I don't think it'd um

Uh yeah I think  did we decide it didn't affect the circuit board , it just affected


Uh yeah I think  did we decide it didn't affect the circuit board , it just affected


I had speech recognition requires advanced req require


I had speech recognition requires advanced req require

Oh no th that's what that's what I thought , but maybe maybe it doesn't .


Oh no th that's what that's what I thought , but maybe maybe it doesn't .


Speech recognition you reckon then is s simple.


Speech recognition you reckon then is s simple.

It's it's just an addition thing it's um yeah.


Speech recognition you reckon then is s simple.

It's it's just an addition thing it's um yeah.

And so we would want it in as an extra because it doesn't appear to cost too much. Would that be


It's it's just an addition thing it's um yeah.

And so we would want it in as an extra because it doesn't appear to cost too much. Would that be


And so we would want it in as an extra because it doesn't appear to cost too much. Would that be


In fact , it wouldn't really cost anymore , would it ?


In fact , it wouldn't really cost anymore , would it ?

I'll just just check what it said. Actually I don't think it really says anything about the cost , but it says that it's already in the coffee machines , so like it's already kind of


In fact , it wouldn't really cost anymore , would it ?

I'll just just check what it said. Actually I don't think it really says anything about the cost , but it says that it's already in the coffee machines , so like it's already kind of

I assume it would cost extra , but  Maybe we maybe we'll find out how much that does cost and have to decide slightly later.


I'll just just check what it said. Actually I don't think it really says anything about the cost , but it says that it's already in the coffee machines , so like it's already kind of

I assume it would cost extra , but  Maybe we maybe we'll find out how much that does cost and have to decide slightly later.

And then have to change all  change  everything at the last minute.


I assume it would cost extra , but  Maybe we maybe we'll find out how much that does cost and have to decide slightly later.

And then have to change all  change  everything at the last minute.


I assume it would cost extra , but  Maybe we maybe we'll find out how much that does cost and have to decide slightly later.

And then have to change all  change  everything at the last minute.

Um.  Oh , that was quick. Um okay , so very brief presentation , um. From looking at the remotes that are out there at the minute , none of them are particularly um sleek and sexy. Um I haven't actually got the examples of the scroll button there , um but there's some curved cases that you can see , uh a range of sizes uh. All of them have a lot of buttons there um they seem to just have the rubber buttons. Does that move it ?


And then have to change all  change  everything at the last minute.

Um.  Oh , that was quick. Um okay , so very brief presentation , um. From looking at the remotes that are out there at the minute , none of them are particularly um sleek and sexy. Um I haven't actually got the examples of the scroll button there , um but there's some curved cases that you can see , uh a range of sizes uh. All of them have a lot of buttons there um they seem to just have the rubber buttons. Does that move it ?


Um.  Oh , that was quick. Um okay , so very brief presentation , um. From looking at the remotes that are out there at the minute , none of them are particularly um sleek and sexy. Um I haven't actually got the examples of the scroll button there , um but there's some curved cases that you can see , uh a range of sizes uh. All of them have a lot of buttons there um they seem to just have the rubber buttons. Does that move it ?

It just seems to be skipping on without us doing anything.


Um.  Oh , that was quick. Um okay , so very brief presentation , um. From looking at the remotes that are out there at the minute , none of them are particularly um sleek and sexy. Um I haven't actually got the examples of the scroll button there , um but there's some curved cases that you can see , uh a range of sizes uh. All of them have a lot of buttons there um they seem to just have the rubber buttons. Does that move it ?

It just seems to be skipping on without us doing anything.

Yeah , I've found that  try and get it back.


It just seems to be skipping on without us doing anything.

Yeah , I've found that  try and get it back.

If you right click and then go onto a previous slide.


Yeah , I've found that  try and get it back.

If you right click and then go onto a previous slide.


If you right click and then go onto a previous slide.

Um. There wasn't much more to say about that , just rambling.  Um some of the uh remotes that I looked at , one of the models da did actually have voice recognition where you could um where it was connected to the remote control functions. And uh it was quite uh a swish model , where it can control uh four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , video , D_V_D_ , audio. Um so that's a bit of competition there. So I mean maybe it's better not to try and compete with that sort of thing and just to market it as a completely different um like different viewpoint as a kind of finding your lost control


Um. There wasn't much more to say about that , just rambling.  Um some of the uh remotes that I looked at , one of the models da did actually have voice recognition where you could um where it was connected to the remote control functions. And uh it was quite uh a swish model , where it can control uh four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , video , D_V_D_ , audio. Um so that's a bit of competition there. So I mean maybe it's better not to try and compete with that sort of thing and just to market it as a completely different um like different viewpoint as a kind of finding your lost control


Um. There wasn't much more to say about that , just rambling.  Um some of the uh remotes that I looked at , one of the models da did actually have voice recognition where you could um where it was connected to the remote control functions. And uh it was quite uh a swish model , where it can control uh four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , video , D_V_D_ , audio. Um so that's a bit of competition there. So I mean maybe it's better not to try and compete with that sort of thing and just to market it as a completely different um like different viewpoint as a kind of finding your lost control

rather than trying to compete with the functions. Um the scroll buttons , as you've already mentioned , um there's examples of those , but they don't look as sleek as other models. And there's no real advantage and  because it impacts on other  on the materials and the price it's not great.


rather than trying to compete with the functions. Um the scroll buttons , as you've already mentioned , um there's examples of those , but they don't look as sleek as other models. And there's no real advantage and  because it impacts on other  on the materials and the price it's not great.


rather than trying to compete with the functions. Um the scroll buttons , as you've already mentioned , um there's examples of those , but they don't look as sleek as other models. And there's no real advantage and  because it impacts on other  on the materials and the price it's not great.

Um  Yeah. Th there was a specialist type of remote that we could think about , um. There was children's remote , where um they just had a very limited range of buttons and they were b uh bright and colourful and um you you could program them so that they could only look at certain channels.


Um  Yeah. Th there was a specialist type of remote that we could think about , um. There was children's remote , where um they just had a very limited range of buttons and they were b uh bright and colourful and um you you could program them so that they could only look at certain channels.


Um  Yeah. Th there was a specialist type of remote that we could think about , um. There was children's remote , where um they just had a very limited range of buttons and they were b uh bright and colourful and um you you could program them so that they could only look at certain channels.

Um but I don't know if that's really in our field ?


Um but I don't know if that's really in our field ?

I guess I guess we're going for the biggest market ,  maybe not ,


Um but I don't know if that's really in our field ?

I guess I guess we're going for the biggest market ,  maybe not ,

but  Was it was it specified that we went for the biggest ?


I guess I guess we're going for the biggest market ,  maybe not ,

but  Was it was it specified that we went for the biggest ?

Well we're to go for the international market rather than a local market but that that wouldn't necessarily preclude


but  Was it was it specified that we went for the biggest ?

Well we're to go for the international market rather than a local market but that that wouldn't necessarily preclude


but  Was it was it specified that we went for the biggest ?

Well we're to go for the international market rather than a local market but that that wouldn't necessarily preclude

The one thing that you can often do with products is you can uh make small modifications. So you have your basic model which you would sell at whatever , and then you could have additional features in you know like a  You'd have model one , model two and model three , and therefore you can sub-divide your market up. But that's really where your field is.


Well we're to go for the international market rather than a local market but that that wouldn't necessarily preclude

The one thing that you can often do with products is you can uh make small modifications. So you have your basic model which you would sell at whatever , and then you could have additional features in you know like a  You'd have model one , model two and model three , and therefore you can sub-divide your market up. But that's really where your field is.


The one thing that you can often do with products is you can uh make small modifications. So you have your basic model which you would sell at whatever , and then you could have additional features in you know like a  You'd have model one , model two and model three , and therefore you can sub-divide your market up. But that's really where your field is.

So maybe the children's remote should be like a a next step , but maybe I dunno for ours , maybe we should


The one thing that you can often do with products is you can uh make small modifications. So you have your basic model which you would sell at whatever , and then you could have additional features in you know like a  You'd have model one , model two and model three , and therefore you can sub-divide your market up. But that's really where your field is.

So maybe the children's remote should be like a a next step , but maybe I dunno for ours , maybe we should

Anyway you could add on for an extra package , but on this basic one I'm reckoning that we're going for the basic model to be discussed here and that uh you would have for future reference the possibility of adding in extra features at extra cost to take care of specialist market segments.


So maybe the children's remote should be like a a next step , but maybe I dunno for ours , maybe we should

Anyway you could add on for an extra package , but on this basic one I'm reckoning that we're going for the basic model to be discussed here and that uh you would have for future reference the possibility of adding in extra features at extra cost to take care of specialist market segments.


Anyway you could add on for an extra package , but on this basic one I'm reckoning that we're going for the basic model to be discussed here and that uh you would have for future reference the possibility of adding in extra features at extra cost to take care of specialist market segments.


Right well that's something that we can be aware of.


Right well that's something that we can be aware of.

Um. I think because there's already um very good voice recognition technology out there , and because ours might not cover the same functions that the leading brands do , it might be a good idea to market it as a um finder function.


Right well that's something that we can be aware of.

Um. I think because there's already um very good voice recognition technology out there , and because ours might not cover the same functions that the leading brands do , it might be a good idea to market it as a um finder function.

Right. Mm-hmm. Uh the fi Yeah , the finder function rather than as a speech function to find your remote.


Um. I think because there's already um very good voice recognition technology out there , and because ours might not cover the same functions that the leading brands do , it might be a good idea to market it as a um finder function.

Right. Mm-hmm. Uh the fi Yeah , the finder function rather than as a speech function to find your remote.


Right. Mm-hmm. Uh the fi Yeah , the finder function rather than as a speech function to find your remote.


So you also said for going for the international market um that some some maybe older people might not like the speech recognition. S s so um


So you also said for going for the international market um that some some maybe older people might not like the speech recognition. S s so um

Oh yeah. Different languages might not be compatible.


So you also said for going for the international market um that some some maybe older people might not like the speech recognition. S s so um

Oh yeah. Different languages might not be compatible.

Yeah , yeah. It w it would make it quite complicated ,


Oh yeah. Different languages might not be compatible.

Yeah , yeah. It w it would make it quite complicated ,

where um ours at least keeps it fairly simple and then the


Yeah , yeah. It w it would make it quite complicated ,

where um ours at least keeps it fairly simple and then the


where um ours at least keeps it fairly simple and then the


where um ours at least keeps it fairly simple and then the

Yeah , 'cause I think you program um this one yourself , like to say like whatever you want to your question.


Yeah , 'cause I think you program um this one yourself , like to say like whatever you want to your question.


Yeah , 'cause I think you program um this one yourself , like to say like whatever you want to your question.

Yeah and ours is quite a cheap device , so I don't know how much we'll be able to put into it.


Yeah and ours is quite a cheap device , so I don't know how much we'll be able to put into it.

So you'd have a finder feature rather than a voice recognition feature.


So you'd have a finder feature rather than a voice recognition feature.


Mm. And you were talking about scroll buttons ?


Mm. And you were talking about scroll buttons ?

Um yeah I think um I think we've decided that it's gonna increase the cost


Um yeah I think um I think we've decided that it's gonna increase the cost


and it's gonna decrease from the sleekness of it.


and it's gonna decrease from the sleekness of it.

Alright , so we're just gonna have the the rubber buttons , was that right ?


and it's gonna decrease from the sleekness of it.

Alright , so we're just gonna have the the rubber buttons , was that right ?

Hmm um and just to be aware that there are kind of specialist functions and specialist remotes but we probably don't want to focus on those like such as the children's remote.


Alright , so we're just gonna have the the rubber buttons , was that right ?

Hmm um and just to be aware that there are kind of specialist functions and specialist remotes but we probably don't want to focus on those like such as the children's remote.


Hmm um and just to be aware that there are kind of specialist functions and specialist remotes but we probably don't want to focus on those like such as the children's remote.

Yeah. Um there was a mention just as kind of a warning about button design. Um just to avoid ambiguity. So it gave the example of say your volume buttons for up and down , they might both have a V_ on for volume ,  Um let's think how they did this.


Hmm um and just to be aware that there are kind of specialist functions and specialist remotes but we probably don't want to focus on those like such as the children's remote.

Yeah. Um there was a mention just as kind of a warning about button design. Um just to avoid ambiguity. So it gave the example of say your volume buttons for up and down , they might both have a V_ on for volume ,  Um let's think how they did this.

Good in in  Flip it round in ninety degree a hundred and eighty degrees and have it up and down.


Yeah. Um there was a mention just as kind of a warning about button design. Um just to avoid ambiguity. So it gave the example of say your volume buttons for up and down , they might both have a V_ on for volume ,  Um let's think how they did this.

Good in in  Flip it round in ninety degree a hundred and eighty degrees and have it up and down.

I'm just gonna check so I do this right.


Yeah. Um there was a mention just as kind of a warning about button design. Um just to avoid ambiguity. So it gave the example of say your volume buttons for up and down , they might both have a V_ on for volume ,  Um let's think how they did this.

Good in in  Flip it round in ninety degree a hundred and eighty degrees and have it up and down.

I'm just gonna check so I do this right.

An upside-down V_. So that would show that volume was going up , whereas the one underneath would see the volume going down.


Good in in  Flip it round in ninety degree a hundred and eighty degrees and have it up and down.

I'm just gonna check so I do this right.

An upside-down V_. So that would show that volume was going up , whereas the one underneath would see the volume going down.

Um. What did they say ? Um I think the thing was that if you decide to do this , to have triangular buttons , um somebody might look at this one and say oh well this triangular button is pointing up , and that's the first thing that they see


I'm just gonna check so I do this right.

An upside-down V_. So that would show that volume was going up , whereas the one underneath would see the volume going down.

Um. What did they say ? Um I think the thing was that if you decide to do this , to have triangular buttons , um somebody might look at this one and say oh well this triangular button is pointing up , and that's the first thing that they see


An upside-down V_. So that would show that volume was going up , whereas the one underneath would see the volume going down.

Um. What did they say ? Um I think the thing was that if you decide to do this , to have triangular buttons , um somebody might look at this one and say oh well this triangular button is pointing up , and that's the first thing that they see

Actually that can't be right , can it ? Oh well , no , they might see yeah , they might see this pointing down and think right that's gonna turn the volume down ,


Um. What did they say ? Um I think the thing was that if you decide to do this , to have triangular buttons , um somebody might look at this one and say oh well this triangular button is pointing up , and that's the first thing that they see

Actually that can't be right , can it ? Oh well , no , they might see yeah , they might see this pointing down and think right that's gonna turn the volume down ,


Actually that can't be right , can it ? Oh well , no , they might see yeah , they might see this pointing down and think right that's gonna turn the volume down ,

whereas the actual button's pointing up , so the function is to turn the button up.


whereas the actual button's pointing up , so the function is to turn the button up.

So , be careful what you put on the buttons


So , be careful what you put on the buttons

and be careful of the shape that you make them ,


and be careful of the shape that you make them ,

because they might be kind of two um contradicting kind of shapes.


because they might be kind of two um contradicting kind of shapes.

Yeah I I know what you mean. So maybe we could have volume written on the side and then up and down on the on the buttons themselves.


Yeah I I know what you mean. So maybe we could have volume written on the side and then up and down on the on the buttons themselves.


And 'cause the idea was to have limited um  it was to have sizable amount of information on it. Limited number of buttons.


And 'cause the idea was to have limited um  it was to have sizable amount of information on it. Limited number of buttons.

'Cause it was sixteen buttons , wasn't it that were


And 'cause the idea was to have limited um  it was to have sizable amount of information on it. Limited number of buttons.

'Cause it was sixteen buttons , wasn't it that were

Yeah. Yeah we got it down to not too many.


'Cause it was sixteen buttons , wasn't it that were

Yeah. Yeah we got it down to not too many.


'Cause it was sixteen buttons , wasn't it that were

Yeah. Yeah we got it down to not too many.

Um and I think that's all I had to say for that.


Yeah. Yeah we got it down to not too many.

Um and I think that's all I had to say for that.


Um and I think that's all I had to say for that.

Um so what was the decision on the um design of the volume button ?


Um and I think that's all I had to say for that.

Um so what was the decision on the um design of the volume button ?

Um  Are we are we gonna go through the design of all the buttons at the moment , or are we gonna t


Um so what was the decision on the um design of the volume button ?

Um  Are we are we gonna go through the design of all the buttons at the moment , or are we gonna t

I've I've got some things to say about possible design things from trend watching.


Um  Are we are we gonna go through the design of all the buttons at the moment , or are we gonna t

I've I've got some things to say about possible design things from trend watching.


I've I've got some things to say about possible design things from trend watching.


Cool. Right , um I've been looking at some trends in in sort of basically fashion on top of doing the um research into the remote control market the the one  that's the one I talked about last time , that we'd sort of asked people about remote controls and what what was good about them , what was bad , what they used. And we've also been looking at sort of fa sort of fashions and what people are wanting out of consumer goods at the moment. So we've had people in Paris and Milan watching the uh fashion trends.


Cool. Right , um I've been looking at some trends in in sort of basically fashion on top of doing the um research into the remote control market the the one  that's the one I talked about last time , that we'd sort of asked people about remote controls and what what was good about them , what was bad , what they used. And we've also been looking at sort of fa sort of fashions and what people are wanting out of consumer goods at the moment. So we've had people in Paris and Milan watching the uh fashion trends.

So just to summarise the most important things which came out of the remote control market investigation. The most important thing was that the thing sort of look and felt fancy rather than just functional.


So just to summarise the most important things which came out of the remote control market investigation. The most important thing was that the thing sort of look and felt fancy rather than just functional.


So just to summarise the most important things which came out of the remote control market investigation. The most important thing was that the thing sort of look and felt fancy rather than just functional.

And second , there should be some technological innovation. And then third and l less important than the other two , there should be an ease of use as well. And apparently , the fashion trends  are that people want sort of clothes and shoes and things with a fruit and vegetables theme.


So just to summarise the most important things which came out of the remote control market investigation. The most important thing was that the thing sort of look and felt fancy rather than just functional.

And second , there should be some technological innovation. And then third and l less important than the other two , there should be an ease of use as well. And apparently , the fashion trends  are that people want sort of clothes and shoes and things with a fruit and vegetables theme.

Um but um the feel of the material should be spongy ,


And second , there should be some technological innovation. And then third and l less important than the other two , there should be an ease of use as well. And apparently , the fashion trends  are that people want sort of clothes and shoes and things with a fruit and vegetables theme.

Um but um the feel of the material should be spongy ,

which is contrary to last year , apparently. I presume it must have been not not spongy last year.


And second , there should be some technological innovation. And then third and l less important than the other two , there should be an ease of use as well. And apparently , the fashion trends  are that people want sort of clothes and shoes and things with a fruit and vegetables theme.

Um but um the feel of the material should be spongy ,

which is contrary to last year , apparently. I presume it must have been not not spongy last year.

So we need to emphasise the fancy design with on on our remote control above all else. And then also try and add in technological informat innovation which could be our sort of find the thing with a hand clap. And then we need to ma sort of make it easy to use that's as a third priority , so perhaps um fewer fewer buttons and functions as we've as we've discussed.


Um but um the feel of the material should be spongy ,

which is contrary to last year , apparently. I presume it must have been not not spongy last year.

So we need to emphasise the fancy design with on on our remote control above all else. And then also try and add in technological informat innovation which could be our sort of find the thing with a hand clap. And then we need to ma sort of make it easy to use that's as a third priority , so perhaps um fewer fewer buttons and functions as we've as we've discussed.

And then maybe find a way to incorporate these trends so that we sort of capture people's imaginations. So maybe we could make the buttons shaped like fruit and veg , or the the buttons could be spongy , uh somehow. Maybe we could make them out of rubber rather than sort of hard plastic. And then sort of even wackier than that , we could maybe have a fruit or vegetable shaped remote , say in the shape of a banana or something like that.  Right , so that'll be it.


which is contrary to last year , apparently. I presume it must have been not not spongy last year.

So we need to emphasise the fancy design with on on our remote control above all else. And then also try and add in technological informat innovation which could be our sort of find the thing with a hand clap. And then we need to ma sort of make it easy to use that's as a third priority , so perhaps um fewer fewer buttons and functions as we've as we've discussed.

And then maybe find a way to incorporate these trends so that we sort of capture people's imaginations. So maybe we could make the buttons shaped like fruit and veg , or the the buttons could be spongy , uh somehow. Maybe we could make them out of rubber rather than sort of hard plastic. And then sort of even wackier than that , we could maybe have a fruit or vegetable shaped remote , say in the shape of a banana or something like that.  Right , so that'll be it.

Maybe a banana or courgette or something.


So we need to emphasise the fancy design with on on our remote control above all else. And then also try and add in technological informat innovation which could be our sort of find the thing with a hand clap. And then we need to ma sort of make it easy to use that's as a third priority , so perhaps um fewer fewer buttons and functions as we've as we've discussed.

And then maybe find a way to incorporate these trends so that we sort of capture people's imaginations. So maybe we could make the buttons shaped like fruit and veg , or the the buttons could be spongy , uh somehow. Maybe we could make them out of rubber rather than sort of hard plastic. And then sort of even wackier than that , we could maybe have a fruit or vegetable shaped remote , say in the shape of a banana or something like that.  Right , so that'll be it.

Maybe a banana or courgette or something.

How how far we actually want to go along and sort of follow the trends , do we think the trends are particularly important for this type of gadget , or or you know , do they not matter that much ?


And then maybe find a way to incorporate these trends so that we sort of capture people's imaginations. So maybe we could make the buttons shaped like fruit and veg , or the the buttons could be spongy , uh somehow. Maybe we could make them out of rubber rather than sort of hard plastic. And then sort of even wackier than that , we could maybe have a fruit or vegetable shaped remote , say in the shape of a banana or something like that.  Right , so that'll be it.

Maybe a banana or courgette or something.

How how far we actually want to go along and sort of follow the trends , do we think the trends are particularly important for this type of gadget , or or you know , do they not matter that much ?

I think if you start making the buttons fruit shaped , it might make it more complicated to use.


Maybe a banana or courgette or something.

How how far we actually want to go along and sort of follow the trends , do we think the trends are particularly important for this type of gadget , or or you know , do they not matter that much ?

I think if you start making the buttons fruit shaped , it might make it more complicated to use.

Well you were just talking about you've got to be careful how you shape your buttons , 'cause you're can mis-direct people. And I would've thought the functionality  'cause the people get cheesed off by things  by having to read instructions et cetera , so.


How how far we actually want to go along and sort of follow the trends , do we think the trends are particularly important for this type of gadget , or or you know , do they not matter that much ?

I think if you start making the buttons fruit shaped , it might make it more complicated to use.

Well you were just talking about you've got to be careful how you shape your buttons , 'cause you're can mis-direct people. And I would've thought the functionality  'cause the people get cheesed off by things  by having to read instructions et cetera , so.


I think if you start making the buttons fruit shaped , it might make it more complicated to use.

Well you were just talking about you've got to be careful how you shape your buttons , 'cause you're can mis-direct people. And I would've thought the functionality  'cause the people get cheesed off by things  by having to read instructions et cetera , so.


Well you were just talking about you've got to be careful how you shape your buttons , 'cause you're can mis-direct people. And I would've thought the functionality  'cause the people get cheesed off by things  by having to read instructions et cetera , so.


Maybe just one button , say the standby button is quite kinda separate from all the other functions. Maybe that could be a little apple.


Maybe just one button , say the standby button is quite kinda separate from all the other functions. Maybe that could be a little apple.

And then that wouldn't get in the way of like kinda one to nine ,


And then that wouldn't get in the way of like kinda one to nine ,


And then that wouldn't get in the way of like kinda one to nine ,

Stand-by button. No th that that incorporates the trend whilst at the same time not confusing people , if you're looking for functionality.


Stand-by button. No th that that incorporates the trend whilst at the same time not confusing people , if you're looking for functionality.

Well I dunno I I guess maybe fruit and vegetables may be popular at the moment , but as we know how fickle the fashion markets are ,