Well , I 'm just thinking , are you gonna try to save the data before this next group comes in ?

Yeah , so we might wanna do it simultaneous.


Yeah , so we might wanna do it simultaneous.


Yeah , so we might wanna do it simultaneous.

Well OK , so let 's do one of those simultaneous ones.


Yeah , so we might wanna do it simultaneous.

Well OK , so let 's do one of those simultaneous ones.

Right , so  so we might n we might need to do that actually.


Well OK , so let 's do one of those simultaneous ones.

Right , so  so we might n we might need to do that actually.


Right , so  so we might n we might need to do that actually.


I've uh made a presentation uh but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard , so we can all see it.


I've uh made a presentation uh but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard , so we can all see it.

So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well .


I've uh made a presentation uh but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard , so we can all see it.

So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well .

Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh  I'm the Project Manager , so I had to fill it in ,


So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well .

Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh  I'm the Project Manager , so I had to fill it in ,


So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well .

Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh  I'm the Project Manager , so I had to fill it in ,

and uh hmm.   Oh sorry.  And  an uh a nice agenda.  Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other , what uh we already do , so , that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here , so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction.


Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh  I'm the Project Manager , so I had to fill it in ,

and uh hmm.   Oh sorry.  And  an uh a nice agenda.  Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other , what uh we already do , so , that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here , so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction.

We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project , and then uh we'll close the meeting , and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So  this the opening we'll uh  We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think , so.


and uh hmm.   Oh sorry.  And  an uh a nice agenda.  Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other , what uh we already do , so , that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here , so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction.

We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project , and then uh we'll close the meeting , and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So  this the opening we'll uh  We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think , so.


and uh hmm.   Oh sorry.  And  an uh a nice agenda.  Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other , what uh we already do , so , that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here , so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction.

We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project , and then uh we'll close the meeting , and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So  this the opening we'll uh  We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think , so.

Um we want it to be original , so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy , it's  also for young people , and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly , so size does matter. And uh  Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place , that kin those kind of things.


We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project , and then uh we'll close the meeting , and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So  this the opening we'll uh  We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think , so.

Um we want it to be original , so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy , it's  also for young people , and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly , so size does matter. And uh  Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place , that kin those kind of things.


Um we want it to be original , so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy , it's  also for young people , and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly , so size does matter. And uh  Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place , that kin those kind of things.

Other uh  There happen to be uh three stages.  functional , conceptual , and d detailed design. Um so every time we we'll do some individual work , get meeting , talk about it , uh and then go into the next phase. That's just it.  Um  We have uh these two Smartboards. Um well as I just showed , there's a project management folder , a project document folder on the desktop. It just works exactly the same as a computer. You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop. So you can uh make uh  Words Excel , everything. Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things , you can uh draw. This is a uh well a drawing board.  you have a  these different uh functions on the board. You can see them there. So you have a a nice pen , and it's works just like a bal ball pen.  This is just a . I want to uh  Oh yeah. Of course w  doesn't work any more.


Um we want it to be original , so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy , it's  also for young people , and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly , so size does matter. And uh  Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place , that kin those kind of things.

Other uh  There happen to be uh three stages.  functional , conceptual , and d detailed design. Um so every time we we'll do some individual work , get meeting , talk about it , uh and then go into the next phase. That's just it.  Um  We have uh these two Smartboards. Um well as I just showed , there's a project management folder , a project document folder on the desktop. It just works exactly the same as a computer. You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop. So you can uh make uh  Words Excel , everything. Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things , you can uh draw. This is a uh well a drawing board.  you have a  these different uh functions on the board. You can see them there. So you have a a nice pen , and it's works just like a bal ball pen.  This is just a . I want to uh  Oh yeah. Of course w  doesn't work any more.

Maybe you should try to write on the on the big white uh


Other uh  There happen to be uh three stages.  functional , conceptual , and d detailed design. Um so every time we we'll do some individual work , get meeting , talk about it , uh and then go into the next phase. That's just it.  Um  We have uh these two Smartboards. Um well as I just showed , there's a project management folder , a project document folder on the desktop. It just works exactly the same as a computer. You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop. So you can uh make uh  Words Excel , everything. Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things , you can uh draw. This is a uh well a drawing board.  you have a  these different uh functions on the board. You can see them there. So you have a a nice pen , and it's works just like a bal ball pen.  This is just a . I want to uh  Oh yeah. Of course w  doesn't work any more.

Maybe you should try to write on the on the big white uh


Maybe you should try to write on the on the big white uh


It's fantas fantastic. We can uh uh well you can save a file. So if uh we draw we have to save everything. Don't throw anything away.


It's fantas fantastic. We can uh uh well you can save a file. So if uh we draw we have to save everything. Don't throw anything away.

Uh just we can start a new one , and we just go on , and don't throw anything away.


It's fantas fantastic. We can uh uh well you can save a file. So if uh we draw we have to save everything. Don't throw anything away.

Uh just we can start a new one , and we just go on , and don't throw anything away.

Just uh let them all uh stand here. We can delete , but we don't do that. Um you can here select a pen , you can draw anything you want. It's a bit uh childish you have to write. It's not as fast as you w you know it , but it does work sometimes.


Uh just we can start a new one , and we just go on , and don't throw anything away.

Just uh let them all uh stand here. We can delete , but we don't do that. Um you can here select a pen , you can draw anything you want. It's a bit uh childish you have to write. It's not as fast as you w you know it , but it does work sometimes.


Just uh let them all uh stand here. We can delete , but we don't do that. Um you can here select a pen , you can draw anything you want. It's a bit uh childish you have to write. It's not as fast as you w you know it , but it does work sometimes.


Well we are designers , so we have to have a a more uh a Smartboard. So that's fantastic. Um well this uh speaks for itself. We going to try it. So um we all uh are going to uh draw a nice animal on this board ,


Well we are designers , so we have to have a a more uh a Smartboard. So that's fantastic. Um well this uh speaks for itself. We going to try it. So um we all uh are going to uh draw a nice animal on this board ,

Yes our your favourite. So um I'm to going to have to draw a kangaroo ,


Yes our your favourite. So um I'm to going to have to draw a kangaroo ,

but I'm going d I'm not going to. I'm just uh going to uh well draw a nice uh beast


but I'm going d I'm not going to. I'm just uh going to uh well draw a nice uh beast


I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your uh


I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your uh

I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your personal uh enjoyment.


I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your personal uh enjoyment.


Ah  the first the first meeting is just a bit uh loose , loosen up , a bit uh meeting each other


I hope our Industrial Designer does this better because uh this is uh


guess.  Well I should make it an hippo now.


difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself .


difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself .

Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills.


difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself .

Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills.

Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very  uh painful


difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself .

Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills.

Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very  uh painful

those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh


Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills.

Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very  uh painful

those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh


Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very  uh painful

those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh

We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can uh draw its uh most favourite animal.


those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh

We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can uh draw its uh most favourite animal.


We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can uh draw its uh most favourite animal.


I think  It's pr it resembles  the animal drawn by .


It's a rabbit.  Well  Looks very nice , right ?


No no save it and start a new uh  save it and start a new black uh doc  a blank document.


No no save it and start a new uh  save it and start a new black uh doc  a blank document.

These are very important documents , of course , uh these drawings , uh


These are very important documents , of course , uh these drawings , uh


These are very important documents , of course , uh these drawings , uh

so now um the next one uh   and then save it and start an blank document.


so now um the next one uh   and then save it and start an blank document.


so now um the next one uh   and then save it and start an blank document.

Yeah. There's also different colours and different uh well pen widths uh the line the the thickness thickness.


Yeah. There's also different colours and different uh well pen widths uh the line the the thickness thickness.


And he deliberately draws a animal we don't know the English word for.


It looks like that beast from Sesame Street.


I can't see it. Alright , thank you. Yeah it's a bird , but what kind of bird ?


I can't see it. Alright , thank you. Yeah it's a bird , but what kind of bird ?

It doesn't draw uh circles uh that easy uh.


It doesn't draw uh circles uh that easy uh.


But we have uh  do we have to name the specific species of the bird ?


And then a a new blank document for .  uh will uh choose a new colour and a new pen width so w we can all see it.


And then a a new blank document for .  uh will uh choose a new colour and a new pen width so w we can all see it.

Why do I have to do the difficult tasks ?


Why do I have to do the difficult tasks ?


And then you go to format I think  , and current colour


And then you go to format I think  , and current colour

you choose a new colour.  And a new pen width uh  also format.


you choose a new colour.  And a new pen width uh  also format.


you choose a new colour.  And a new pen width uh  also format.

oh they don't have pink.  Oh b oh  think this is uh


oh they don't have pink.  Oh b oh  think this is uh


Yeah.  So. Just a wa that's the way we do


Oh the line width is too thick , but oh well.


Oh the line width is too thick , but oh well.

Well then you change it. And erase things.


Well then you change it. And erase things.


Now  I have to change the line width.  Uh one  .


Yeah save it  and  start a new blank document.


Yeah save it  and  start a new blank document.

I'll save it  alright uh save. Uh yeah uh blank.


Yeah save it  and  start a new blank document.

I'll save it  alright uh save. Uh yeah uh blank.

Yep. So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it.


I'll save it  alright uh save. Uh yeah uh blank.

Yep. So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it.


Yep. So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it.


Thanks for this exercise. I feel totally at ease.


Well then uh the serious uh stuff. We're we want to sell it at twenty five Euros internationally um so um but we dunno what exactly th i it is in dollars , but uh twenty five Euros. Our profit aim is , worldwide , fifty million Euros. So I didn't uh exactly uh calculate how much we have to sell.


Well then uh the serious uh stuff. We're we want to sell it at twenty five Euros internationally um so um but we dunno what exactly th i it is in dollars , but uh twenty five Euros. Our profit aim is , worldwide , fifty million Euros. So I didn't uh exactly uh calculate how much we have to sell.

we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so , keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff , and uh marketing uh research.


we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so , keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff , and uh marketing uh research.


we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so , keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff , and uh marketing uh research.

Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls , first  about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera ?


Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls , first  about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera ?


Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls , first  about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera ?

Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes  and uh  Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls ? Please ?


Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls , first  about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera ?

Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes  and uh  Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls ? Please ?

Well I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh


Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes  and uh  Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls ? Please ?

Well I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh


Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes  and uh  Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls ? Please ?

Well I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh

it's not , it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls , but uh


Well I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh

it's not , it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls , but uh

Well uh just w we're uh four uh if we if we would just have one then


it's not , it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls , but uh

Well uh just w we're uh four uh if we if we would just have one then

I think it's im it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors.


Well uh just w we're uh four uh if we if we would just have one then

I think it's im it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors.

Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control.


I think it's im it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors.

Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control.


Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control.

On our corporate site I saw uh a new D_V_D_ player uh we're gonna produce.


On our corporate site I saw uh a new D_V_D_ player uh we're gonna produce.

Maybe it's important to make it compatible with the D_V_D_ player


Maybe it's important to make it compatible with the D_V_D_ player

so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote control.


so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote control.

Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world , for different cultures , maybe , because we want to we want to  well fifty million ?


so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote control.

Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world , for different cultures , maybe , because we want to we want to  well fifty million ?

Yes fifty million is our aim to a profit , so.


Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world , for different cultures , maybe , because we want to we want to  well fifty million ?

Yes fifty million is our aim to a profit , so.


Yes fifty million is our aim to a profit , so.

so a lot of people have to be able to use it.


so a lot of people have to be able to use it.

No but uh the b the buttons have to uh have to have uh international recognisable buttons and uh


No but uh the b the buttons have to uh have to have uh international recognisable buttons and uh


and numbers and uh that every culture in uh , yeah , people in every country can recognise.


and numbers and uh that every culture in uh , yeah , people in every country can recognise.

I'll make uh notes and then uh maybe uh  well I'll put it in the project uh folder when I'm done uh just now.


I'll make uh notes and then uh maybe uh  well I'll put it in the project uh folder when I'm done uh just now.

I also think we should not add too many buttons.


I also think we should not add too many buttons.


Modern day uh remotes have  too much buttons I think.


Modern day uh remotes have  too much buttons I think.

Y y you don't use uh the half of them that's that's


Y y you don't use uh the half of them that's that's

Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_


Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_


Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_

and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something.


and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something.


and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something.

Yeah so it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons and uh


Yeah so it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons and uh


Yeah so it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons and uh

Yep , and maybe we do uh  we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player. Don't we have uh other uh ou


Yeah so it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons and uh

Yep , and maybe we do uh  we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player. Don't we have uh other uh ou

Yeah we should make it compatible perhaps with everything we use , we uh we make ?


Yep , and maybe we do uh  we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player. Don't we have uh other uh ou

Yeah we should make it compatible perhaps with everything we use , we uh we make ?


Yeah we should make it compatible perhaps with everything we use , we uh we make ?

We also uh just uh released a T_F_T_ uh thing I saw.


We also uh just uh released a T_F_T_ uh thing I saw.

Yeah so but th that's kind kind of standard T_ television so it also works on that.


Yeah so but th that's kind kind of standard T_ television so it also works on that.


And I think the people who who will buy our uh remote already have some experience with remotes. So we can keep that in mind.


W well it's a n it's a new remote and you don't buy a remote if you don't have anything to uh to control with it.


W well it's a n it's a new remote and you don't buy a remote if you don't have anything to uh to control with it.

Well except if we deliver it together with our D_V_D_.


Well except if we deliver it together with our D_V_D_.


We need to to keep it consistent with other d uh


We need to to keep it consistent with other d uh

and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design


and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design


and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design

It has to be different and familiar at the same time.


It has to be different and familiar at the same time.


we could use another form or shape or colour , that kind of things.


we could use another form or shape or colour , that kind of things.

yeah the shape will will have to be recognised. I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing


yeah the shape will will have to be recognised. I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing


yeah the shape will will have to be recognised. I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing

Well we we could make more more oval or something , and and


Well we we could make more more oval or something , and and


So  one hand has the beer , so the other hand uh


but young people want something different


Yeah but it's quite important that it fits.


Yeah but it's quite important that it fits.

one of our aims is that it has to be original and trendy so


one of our aims is that it has to be original and trendy so


yeah. But you still have to know it's a remote and not another


yeah. But you still have to know it's a remote and not another

Well there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to  we can imagine uh


yeah. But you still have to know it's a remote and not another

Well there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to  we can imagine uh

because it's a long time uh on the market. So the the form will have  been uh tested out so


Well there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to  we can imagine uh

because it's a long time uh on the market. So the the form will have  been uh tested out so

Yeah. Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh , yeah , useful


because it's a long time uh on the market. So the the form will have  been uh tested out so

Yeah. Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh , yeah , useful


because it's a long time uh on the market. So the the form will have  been uh tested out so

Yeah. Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh , yeah , useful

or else uh they would have been ano another shape.


Yeah. Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh , yeah , useful

or else uh they would have been ano another shape.

for me personally I have a  a lot of remotes uh at home but  those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle  I don't like to use them. I have uh have to  it has to fit my hands.


or else uh they would have been ano another shape.

for me personally I have a  a lot of remotes uh at home but  those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle  I don't like to use them. I have uh have to  it has to fit my hands.


or else uh they would have been ano another shape.

for me personally I have a  a lot of remotes uh at home but  those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle  I don't like to use them. I have uh have to  it has to fit my hands.

When it falls over it and I just have  and then the button that I use most has to be here.


for me personally I have a  a lot of remotes uh at home but  those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle  I don't like to use them. I have uh have to  it has to fit my hands.

When it falls over it and I just have  and then the button that I use most has to be here.


When it falls over it and I just have  and then the button that I use most has to be here.


a lo  the long box shape yeah. You have to  use one hand.


a lo  the long box shape yeah. You have to  use one hand.

It f it fits your hands and then you just push the button that you use most with  thumb.


a lo  the long box shape yeah. You have to  use one hand.

It f it fits your hands and then you just push the button that you use most with  thumb.

Nah  I don't agree with the long box uh shape


It f it fits your hands and then you just push the button that you use most with  thumb.

Nah  I don't agree with the long box uh shape

it it has to be custom made for the hand.


Nah  I don't agree with the long box uh shape

it it has to be custom made for the hand.


it it has to be custom made for the hand.

Tho tho those new D_V_D_ players on the market do have those.


Tho tho those new D_V_D_ players on the market do have those.

But it does fit in the hand if you hold it like this , and you can make it another shape ,


But it does fit in the hand if you hold it like this , and you can make it another shape ,


But it does fit in the hand if you hold it like this , and you can make it another shape ,

No if y if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_  with their uh remotes  pl players  they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped.


No if y if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_  with their uh remotes  pl players  they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped.


Yeah well but uh what what what do you suggest then ?


Yeah well but uh what what what do you suggest then ?

Well  most of  of them are are somewhat thicker at the end , and get um yeah thinner towards the uh the other end.


Well  most of  of them are are somewhat thicker at the end , and get um yeah thinner towards the uh the other end.


but it's still then uh the the long box , uh but then with some uh round uh  round forms in it to fit your hand ,


A it h it has it it has a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand.


A it h it has it it has a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand.

but it's it's still  Yeah yeah al alright


but it's it's still  Yeah yeah al alright

but but it's still it's still  sort of box , yeah.


but but it's still it's still  sort of box , yeah.


but it in the end it's still the box , so that's what I mean.


but it in the end it's still the box , so that's what I mean.

Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand.


but it in the end it's still the box , so that's what I mean.

Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand.

Yeah yeah I understand , but  no no I don't mean an entire box like completely square


Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand.

Yeah yeah I understand , but  no no I don't mean an entire box like completely square


Yeah yeah I understand , but  no no I don't mean an entire box like completely square


but in in in at the end it's still this long  box shape with convenient uh round uh shapes uh  to fit.


and then a button here to switch between  different systems like D_V_D_ player


and then a button here to switch between  different systems like D_V_D_ player

I thought about something like that. Yeah.


and then a button here to switch between  different systems like D_V_D_ player

I thought about something like that. Yeah.

A big recognisable button on top or something.


I thought about something like that. Yeah.

A big recognisable button on top or something.

Yeah right , and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea with the with the numbers and


A big recognisable button on top or something.

Yeah right , and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea with the with the numbers and


Yeah right , and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea with the with the numbers and

The buttons should uh also be not too small , not too big , of course ,


The buttons should uh also be not too small , not too big , of course ,


The buttons should uh also be not too small , not too big , of course ,

and uh n uh uh not too close uh together.


and uh n uh uh not too close uh together.


and uh n uh uh not too close uh together.

But it should be possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button.


But it should be possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button.


But it should be possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button.

So there has to be some space between the buttons.


So there has to be some space between the buttons.

Yeah of course uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different functions.


Yeah of course uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different functions.


Yeah  maybe we can um just like on cell phones those um well   you can you can put on on them ,


and so you can customise your uh your own remote with different colours or or special paint jobs


I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um


I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um

Well it's just uh about our first ideas now


I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um

Well it's just uh about our first ideas now

so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about these materials and markets etcetera.


Well it's just uh about our first ideas now

so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about these materials and markets etcetera.


so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about these materials and markets etcetera.


I think it's uh it's important to uh notate all the the decisions that we make ,


This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh. You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your room so uh it's uh logical uh. I think.


This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh. You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your room so uh it's uh logical uh. I think.

Oh and uh that's uh that's all. So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over.


Oh and uh that's uh that's all. So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over.

Yeah now we can still talk about the material ,


Yeah now we can still talk about the material ,

we have some some minutes left uh  I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course , hard plastic , the buttons should be uh rubbery I think uh.


we have some some minutes left uh  I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course , hard plastic , the buttons should be uh rubbery I think uh.


we have some some minutes left uh  I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course , hard plastic , the buttons should be uh rubbery I think uh.

Well I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons


Well I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons

and when I've had use it much it was gone. So it has to be made in the buttons I think.


and when I've had use it much it was gone. So it has to be made in the buttons I think.


Mm. Alright. And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh  to connect things uh to each other.


Mm. Alright. And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh  to connect things uh to each other.

Yeah. Is there an a universal uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television so it's all about uh


Yeah. Is there an a universal uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television so it's all about uh


infrared beams an infrared beam I think .


infrared beams an infrared beam I think .

Yeah. But y you can have uh of course different between D_V_D_s and televisions and between


infrared beams an infrared beam I think .

Yeah. But y you can have uh of course different between D_V_D_s and televisions and between

It it's a we we make an a universal remote so it ha has to work with uh all kinds of brands and things.


Yeah. But y you can have uh of course different between D_V_D_s and televisions and between

It it's a we we make an a universal remote so it ha has to work with uh all kinds of brands and things.


It it's a we we make an a universal remote so it ha has to work with uh all kinds of brands and things.


It it's a we we make an a universal remote so it ha has to work with uh all kinds of brands and things.

Yeah. But our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country , so


Yeah. But our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country , so


Yeah. But our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country , so

And have  well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works.  The user presses a button and with an infrared beam it signals the television set accordingly ,


And have  well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works.  The user presses a button and with an infrared beam it signals the television set accordingly ,


And have  well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works.  The user presses a button and with an infrared beam it signals the television set accordingly ,

Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea ?


Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea ?

Well I think uh w we can look into that in the in the next uh thirty minutes.


Well I think uh w we can look into that in the in the next uh thirty minutes.

and you can always use a front front on it , you know ? You can use it  just plain


and you can always use a front front on it , you know ? You can use it  just plain


and you can always use a front front on it , you know ? You can use it  just plain

Well j just y you get a n a normal front with it , but you can change them uh when you buy the


Well j just y you get a n a normal front with it , but you can change them uh when you buy the


And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts a a around the world so uh


And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts a a around the world so uh

Well you can make profit with them , and it's  a way to make them trendy.


Well you can make profit with them , and it's  a way to make them trendy.

Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself  so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts uh.


Well you can make profit with them , and it's  a way to make them trendy.

Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself  so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts uh.

Well but th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something


Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself  so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts uh.

Well but th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something


Well but th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something


uh b a simple colour not not very flashy.


uh b a simple colour not not very flashy.

Yes. Yeah well it has to it h it has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell ,


uh b a simple colour not not very flashy.

Yes. Yeah well it has to it h it has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell ,

so if they are uh black and black black and silver we'll make them black and silver so


Yes. Yeah well it has to it h it has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell ,

so if they are uh black and black black and silver we'll make them black and silver so


so if they are uh black and black black and silver we'll make them black and silver so


But people of often don't like bright colours or something.


If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it. I think.


If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it. I think.

But that's uh marketing uh research you can uh you can ask uh.


But that's uh marketing uh research you can uh you can ask uh.

Yeah or a t Teletubby front.  Yeah yeah yeah. I will investigate.


But that's uh marketing uh research you can uh you can ask uh.

Yeah or a t Teletubby front.  Yeah yeah yeah. I will investigate.

Yes.  Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh  I don't know what your specific instructions will be , but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form , I think.


But that's uh marketing uh research you can uh you can ask uh.

Yeah or a t Teletubby front.  Yeah yeah yeah. I will investigate.

Yes.  Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh  I don't know what your specific instructions will be , but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form , I think.

Mm yeah also the the look and feel uh of the the remote's also my task , yeah.


Yeah or a t Teletubby front.  Yeah yeah yeah. I will investigate.

Yes.  Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh  I don't know what your specific instructions will be , but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form , I think.

Mm yeah also the the look and feel uh of the the remote's also my task , yeah.


Yes.  Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh  I don't know what your specific instructions will be , but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form , I think.

Mm yeah also the the look and feel uh of the the remote's also my task , yeah.

What's the uh url or the website 'cause I didn't get


Mm yeah also the the look and feel uh of the the remote's also my task , yeah.

What's the uh url or the website 'cause I didn't get


What's the uh url or the website 'cause I didn't get


It's  Yeah yeah yeah just if you start up your Internet Explorer


It's the the the start uh starting page uh


It's the the the start uh starting page uh

Oh oh right oh well I didn't uh use it .


Okay we all all set ? Right. Well this is the uh final detailed design meeting. Um we're gonna discuss the look and feel design , the user interface design , and we're gonna evaluate the product. And the end result of this meeting has to be a decision on the details of this remote control , like absolute final decision , um and then I'm gonna have to specify the final design in the final report. So um just from from last time to recap , we said we were gonna have a snowman shaped remote control with no L_C_D_ display , no need for talk-back , it was hopefully gonna be kinetic power and battery uh with rubber buttons , maybe backlighting the buttons with some internal L_E_D_s to shine through the casing , um hopefully a jog-dial , and incorporating the slogan somewhere as well. Anything I've missed ?

Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead.


Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead.


Okay um so uh if you want to present your prototype go ahead.

Um , there are a few changes we've made.


Um , there are a few changes we've made.


Um , there are a few changes we've made.

Um , well look at the expense sheet , and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside ,


Um , well look at the expense sheet , and uh it turned to be quite a lot expensive to have open up and have lots of buttons and stuff inside ,

so instead we've um  this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen , um just a a very very basic one , very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button.


so instead we've um  this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen , um just a a very very basic one , very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button.

Uh , apart from that , it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time.


so instead we've um  this is gonna be an L_C_D_ screen , um just a a very very basic one , very small um with access to the menu through the the scroll wheel and uh confirm um button.

Uh , apart from that , it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time.

And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions ? the advanced functions are still hidden from you , but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use.


Uh , apart from that , it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time.

And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions ? the advanced functions are still hidden from you , but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use.


Uh , apart from that , it's just pretty much the same as we discussed last time.

And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions ? the advanced functions are still hidden from you , but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use.

Um they're in the L_C_D_ panel and the jog-dial ?


And there isn't uh d it doesn't open up to the advanced functions ? the advanced functions are still hidden from you , but they're hidden in the sense that um they're not in use.

Um they're in the L_C_D_ panel and the jog-dial ?


Um they're in the L_C_D_ panel and the jog-dial ?


The L_C_D_ panel just displays um functionally what you're doing. If you're using an advanced function right , like um c brightness , contrast , whatever , it will just say


The L_C_D_ panel just displays um functionally what you're doing. If you're using an advanced function right , like um c brightness , contrast , whatever , it will just say

You know it's like it only has four columns , it's a very simple L_C_D_ like , whereas many  the minimum amount we need that the user will automatically know like this is brightness or this is contrast.


You know it's like it only has four columns , it's a very simple L_C_D_ like , whereas many  the minimum amount we need that the user will automatically know like this is brightness or this is contrast.


It might even be one , a bit more complex L_C_D_ panel with pictures like maybe the sun or the , you know , the the symbols of the various functions.


Okay so the number pad is  'Kay , great.


Okay so the number pad is  'Kay , great.

You know , just like right inside there.


You know , just like right inside there.


You know , just like right inside there.

You have this space here , and then you have this thing on the side as well , or at the bottom.


You have this space here , and then you have this thing on the side as well , or at the bottom.

'Cause slogans are usually quite small , right ,


'Cause slogans are usually quite small , right ,


say a button's about this size , right , so you would still have plenty of space for a slogan , say even for that.


say a button's about this size , right , so you would still have plenty of space for a slogan , say even for that.

So if this isn't to scale , what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here ?


say a button's about this size , right , so you would still have plenty of space for a slogan , say even for that.

So if this isn't to scale , what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here ?

Well  we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily with a finger


So if this isn't to scale , what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here ?

Well  we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily with a finger


So if this isn't to scale , what kind of dimensions are you thinking about here ?

Well  we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily with a finger

so we reckon maybe that'll be about the same size as the palm of your hand.


Well  we want the other buttons to be big enough to push easily with a finger

so we reckon maybe that'll be about the same size as the palm of your hand.


so we reckon maybe that'll be about the same size as the palm of your hand.

Yep so that would be about a centimetre for a button , so one two three four centimetres. Plus maybe half o five


Yep so that would be about a centimetre for a button , so one two three four centimetres. Plus maybe half o five


That would be good. So ten centimetres in height.


That'd be good , in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually , so that would be  that sounds like a really good size , if you see it there.


That'd be good , in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually , so that would be  that sounds like a really good size , if you see it there.

Yeah. That's great and it's very bright as well. So um okay.


That'd be good , in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually , so that would be  that sounds like a really good size , if you see it there.

Yeah. That's great and it's very bright as well. So um okay.

Mm. Is it possible  uh I'm just gonna bring up the idea of colours. Is these are these the colours that  of production , or is this just what we had available ?


That'd be good , in fact a pen is about ten centimetres usually , so that would be  that sounds like a really good size , if you see it there.

Yeah. That's great and it's very bright as well. So um okay.

Mm. Is it possible  uh I'm just gonna bring up the idea of colours. Is these are these the colours that  of production , or is this just what we had available ?

Well I'm  We're gonna have again the the sort of the foggy um yellow from last time that lit up when you pushed the button.


Yeah. That's great and it's very bright as well. So um okay.

Mm. Is it possible  uh I'm just gonna bring up the idea of colours. Is these are these the colours that  of production , or is this just what we had available ?

Well I'm  We're gonna have again the the sort of the foggy um yellow from last time that lit up when you pushed the button.


Mm. Is it possible  uh I'm just gonna bring up the idea of colours. Is these are these the colours that  of production , or is this just what we had available ?

Well I'm  We're gonna have again the the sort of the foggy um yellow from last time that lit up when you pushed the button.


Well I'm  We're gonna have again the the sort of the foggy um yellow from last time that lit up when you pushed the button.


could you just list all the things that it does s so I can write them in the report.


could you just list all the things that it does s so I can write them in the report.

But um  this button um , because it's red it's sort of very prominent , we're gonna use it as uh  it can be the power button if you hold it for maybe two seconds it'll send a stand-by signal.


But um  this button um , because it's red it's sort of very prominent , we're gonna use it as uh  it can be the power button if you hold it for maybe two seconds it'll send a stand-by signal.

Um apart from that it's gonna be used as a confirm button for the L_C_D_ screen


Um apart from that it's gonna be used as a confirm button for the L_C_D_ screen


Okay so that's like an okay button , right.


Okay so that's like an okay button , right.

Oh we've discussed how h high it is , but how wide is it ?


Oh we've discussed how h high it is , but how wide is it ?


No as in the height , but what about the width ?


Oh is this k to get an idea of scale from your from your thing there okay.


So you can power on and off , what else can you do ?


So you can power on and off , what else can you do ?

Um you can skip straight to a channel using these buttons.


Um you can skip straight to a channel using these buttons.

Um , were gonna have the volume control here , but um because we've got the the L_C_D_ and the jog-dial we just thought we'd um use that as the volume.


Um you can skip straight to a channel using these buttons.

Um , were gonna have the volume control here , but um because we've got the the L_C_D_ and the jog-dial we just thought we'd um use that as the volume.

Okay jog-dial for volume. And what else do you do with the jog-dial ?


Um , were gonna have the volume control here , but um because we've got the the L_C_D_ and the jog-dial we just thought we'd um use that as the volume.

Okay jog-dial for volume. And what else do you do with the jog-dial ?


Um , were gonna have the volume control here , but um because we've got the the L_C_D_ and the jog-dial we just thought we'd um use that as the volume.

Okay jog-dial for volume. And what else do you do with the jog-dial ?

Um you can use it for um more advanced functions like contrast , colour and


Okay jog-dial for volume. And what else do you do with the jog-dial ?

Um you can use it for um more advanced functions like contrast , colour and


Um you can use it for um more advanced functions like contrast , colour and


Um just whatever else we wanted to include as the advanced functions , um we didn't actually go through and specify the


Um just whatever else we wanted to include as the advanced functions , um we didn't actually go through and specify the

Okay things like um brightness , contrast ,


Okay things like um brightness , contrast ,


What else ? Um the various inputs. Are you having a V_C_R_ , are you having  you know which input do you have ?


Yep , colour , sharpness. Um a lot of these things will have to be um free and open for users to define them.


Yep , colour , sharpness. Um a lot of these things will have to be um free and open for users to define them.

Sharpness. Okay what about uh sound settings


Yep , colour , sharpness. Um a lot of these things will have to be um free and open for users to define them.

Sharpness. Okay what about uh sound settings

? Uh d can you change any of those at all ?


Sharpness. Okay what about uh sound settings

? Uh d can you change any of those at all ?


? Uh d can you change any of those at all ?

Audio , we have like your basic y your base , your mid-range , your high range.


Audio , we have like your basic y your base , your mid-range , your high range.


Yep , left-right balance , um maybe even pre-programmed sound modes , like um the user could determine like a series of sound modes ,


Yep , left-right balance , um maybe even pre-programmed sound modes , like um the user could determine like a series of sound modes ,

and then what could happen would be um when you click on that then it would go to that setting.


and then what could happen would be um when you click on that then it would go to that setting.


is there anything else at all it can do ? That  'cause that's that's fine. Just need to know so I can write it down. Okay um right I g I guess that's it , so we can now um   We can now have a little look at the the Excel sheet and price listing , and see if we need to um if we need to rethink anything at all.


is there anything else at all it can do ? That  'cause that's that's fine. Just need to know so I can write it down. Okay um right I g I guess that's it , so we can now um   We can now have a little look at the the Excel sheet and price listing , and see if we need to um if we need to rethink anything at all.

So um for this first part here power-wise , have we got battery ?


So um for this first part here power-wise , have we got battery ?


And that's because of cost restraints is it ?


Let me just confirm that. Yes I think so. Yep.


Let me just confirm that. Yes I think so. Yep.

Okay um the case , what does it mean by single and double , do you know ?


Let me just confirm that. Yes I think so. Yep.

Okay um the case , what does it mean by single and double , do you know ?

Um I think single would just be sort of one sort of oval whereas double is this sort of thing.


Okay um the case , what does it mean by single and double , do you know ?

Um I think single would just be sort of one sort of oval whereas double is this sort of thing.


Um I think single would just be sort of one sort of oval whereas double is this sort of thing.


Is there any rubber at all in the buttons or any


Is there any rubber at all in the buttons or any

I think we're gonna have to skip the rubber.


I think we're gonna have to skip the rubber.

um and we wanted special colours didn't we ?


um and we wanted special colours didn't we ?


um and we wanted special colours didn't we ?

So I'll have to put that  Oh no wait we  ho how many colours have we got there ?


um and we wanted special colours didn't we ?

So I'll have to put that  Oh no wait we  ho how many colours have we got there ?

For the case itself , one colour. It's one special colour.


So I'll have to put that  Oh no wait we  ho how many colours have we got there ?

For the case itself , one colour. It's one special colour.


So I'll have to put that  Oh no wait we  ho how many colours have we got there ?

For the case itself , one colour. It's one special colour.

'Cause the case unit itself , the rest of our components go on top of it.


For the case itself , one colour. It's one special colour.

'Cause the case unit itself , the rest of our components go on top of it.

Okay so interface-wise , is it this third option we have , the two of them there ?


'Cause the case unit itself , the rest of our components go on top of it.

Okay so interface-wise , is it this third option we have , the two of them there ?


Okay so interface-wise , is it this third option we have , the two of them there ?

Okay and then buttons , we have what , two colours ?


Okay and then buttons , we have what , two colours ?


Okay and then buttons , we have what , two colours ?

Um we have um got some push buttons as well.


Um we have um got some push buttons as well.


Um we have um got some push buttons as well.

Like uh oh wait so push button and integrated scroll wheel push


Like uh oh wait so push button and integrated scroll wheel push


Like uh oh wait so push button and integrated scroll wheel push

So I reckon we've got one button for this thing 'cause it's just one big sheet of rubber.


So I reckon we've got one button for this thing 'cause it's just one big sheet of rubber.


So I reckon we've got one button for this thing 'cause it's just one big sheet of rubber.

Okay let's just be safe and put like say four buttons for that one.


Okay let's just be safe and put like say four buttons for that one.


Okay let's just be safe and put like say four buttons for that one.

Okay um and maybe a special colour for the buttons , so maybe four again.


Okay um and maybe a special colour for the buttons , so maybe four again.

You can see we're we're all very far beyond the


Okay um and maybe a special colour for the buttons , so maybe four again.

You can see we're we're all very far beyond the

So w why are we arriving at the number four ? Where does the number four come from ?


You can see we're we're all very far beyond the

So w why are we arriving at the number four ? Where does the number four come from ?

'Cause that's one button by its the complexity of twelve buttons.


So w why are we arriving at the number four ? Where does the number four come from ?

'Cause that's one button by its the complexity of twelve buttons.

So we're just estimating that yeah it would be less.


'Cause that's one button by its the complexity of twelve buttons.

So we're just estimating that yeah it would be less.

so we're writing down four.  Okay. How about these ? Are we wanting them in


So we're just estimating that yeah it would be less.

so we're writing down four.  Okay. How about these ? Are we wanting them in


so we're writing down four.  Okay. How about these ? Are we wanting them in


Now we're gonna  something's gonna have to go. Um we're at sixteen point eight and


Now we're gonna  something's gonna have to go. Um we're at sixteen point eight and

Uh how mm-hmm  how are we going to achieve this high-end product if


Now we're gonna  something's gonna have to go. Um we're at sixteen point eight and

Uh how mm-hmm  how are we going to achieve this high-end product if

Well we h something has to go to the tune of two point t three Euro ,


Uh how mm-hmm  how are we going to achieve this high-end product if

Well we h something has to go to the tune of two point t three Euro ,


Well we h something has to go to the tune of two point t three Euro ,


oh yes sorry , four point three. My maths is all out.


oh yes sorry , four point three. My maths is all out.

Well we could take out ones by making it single curved , just fill in those bits.


Well we could take out ones by making it single curved , just fill in those bits.


The other thing could be that um you could take away the L_C_D_ panel and the advanced chip together ,


The other thing could be that um you could take away the L_C_D_ panel and the advanced chip together ,

um because when you do something on the T_V_ , the T_V_ responds and reacts as well ,


um because when you do something on the T_V_ , the T_V_ responds and reacts as well ,

so the user could be looking at the T_V_ and pushing his thing so we may not need to


so the user could be looking at the T_V_ and pushing his thing so we may not need to

so when we scroll we need just some way to get the T_V_ to respond ,


so when we scroll we need just some way to get the T_V_ to respond ,

which I think is a technically doable thing so


which I think is a technically doable thing so


Yep. And the advanced chip goes away as well.


And so we've got point three to get rid of. Um and we ha where are the four  the four push buttons are where exactly now ?


And so we've got point three to get rid of. Um and we ha where are the four  the four push buttons are where exactly now ?

That's um one piece of rubber but it's gonna have twelve button things underneath so


That's um one piece of rubber but it's gonna have twelve button things underneath so


That's um one piece of rubber but it's gonna have twelve button things underneath so

Functionally you're gonna have to intercept  So four is a good estimate for


Functionally you're gonna have to intercept  So four is a good estimate for

Yeah , so you can't actually cut   It's like three times the number of buttons , four , eight , twelve.


Functionally you're gonna have to intercept  So four is a good estimate for

Yeah , so you can't actually cut   It's like three times the number of buttons , four , eight , twelve.

Like is is that one big button or is it twelve buttons ,


Yeah , so you can't actually cut   It's like three times the number of buttons , four , eight , twelve.

Like is is that one big button or is it twelve buttons ,

It  It needs to be more than one big button because if you open up your phone , underneath there's actually one button underneath , it's just that the panel itself is a single panel.


Like is is that one big button or is it twelve buttons ,

It  It needs to be more than one big button because if you open up your phone , underneath there's actually one button underneath , it's just that the panel itself is a single panel.


It  It needs to be more than one big button because if you open up your phone , underneath there's actually one button underneath , it's just that the panel itself is a single panel.


well we have point three to get rid of somewhere.


well we have point three to get rid of somewhere.

We just report that it has to be over budget  ,


well we have point three to get rid of somewhere.

We just report that it has to be over budget  ,

or the colours , you could take away s colours for th for the buttons.


We just report that it has to be over budget  ,

or the colours , you could take away s colours for th for the buttons.


or the colours , you could take away s colours for th for the buttons.


Well do you want colour differentiation here ?


Well do you want colour differentiation here ?

No that's not the button we're talking about.


No that's not the button we're talking about.


Um so then these just become normal coloured buttons , so that might be some some way of cutting the cost.


Um so then these just become normal coloured buttons , so that might be some some way of cutting the cost.

Okay , ach that's a shame.  Um right , so take away that completely ? Ah. And now we're under budget. So we do have point five Euro to play with if we wanted.


Okay , ach that's a shame.  Um right , so take away that completely ? Ah. And now we're under budget. So we do have point five Euro to play with if we wanted.


Okay , ach that's a shame.  Um right , so take away that completely ? Ah. And now we're under budget. So we do have point five Euro to play with if we wanted.

How about with embossing the logo , isn't that going to cost us some money ?


How about with embossing the logo , isn't that going to cost us some money ?


How about with embossing the logo , isn't that going to cost us some money ?

Reckon that probably counts as a special form for the buttons.


Reckon that probably counts as a special form for the buttons.


Reckon that probably counts as a special form for the buttons.

Yeah that's a good idea. Just one ? Does that mean that one button has a special form or


Yeah that's a good idea. Just one ? Does that mean that one button has a special form or


Well well there we go. So I'm just gonna have to redraw this now. So we're not gonna have the L_C_D_ anymore , and we'll just gonna have an on t on the T_V_ it'll show you what you're doing , which I think is fair enough , and so this is gonna be one big thing here. Um.


Well well there we go. So I'm just gonna have to redraw this now. So we're not gonna have the L_C_D_ anymore , and we'll just gonna have an on t on the T_V_ it'll show you what you're doing , which I think is fair enough , and so this is gonna be one big thing here. Um.

Was the goal in your in your prototype design that it be as low profile as possible ?


Was the goal in your in your prototype design that it be as low profile as possible ?


You see I envision it as being um quite deep


You see I envision it as being um quite deep

sort of  deep enough to be comfy to hold in your hands rather than being wide and flat.


sort of  deep enough to be comfy to hold in your hands rather than being wide and flat.

We didn't have enough Play-Doh to make it three D_.


sort of  deep enough to be comfy to hold in your hands rather than being wide and flat.

We didn't have enough Play-Doh to make it three D_.

Sure , okay. Yeah alright yeah fair enough.


We didn't have enough Play-Doh to make it three D_.

Sure , okay. Yeah alright yeah fair enough.


We didn't have enough Play-Doh to make it three D_.

Sure , okay. Yeah alright yeah fair enough.

So there's one more dimension to the thing which we need to to add ,


Sure , okay. Yeah alright yeah fair enough.

So there's one more dimension to the thing which we need to to add ,


So there's one more dimension to the thing which we need to to add ,

and you might want to add in the report , length , width , and height.


and you might want to add in the report , length , width , and height.


and you might want to add in the report , length , width , and height.

So just to well to be thorough then , width-wise we're looking at about what three centimetres or something ?


So just to well to be thorough then , width-wise we're looking at about what three centimetres or something ?


How how tall do you envisage it being ? About that big ?


Maybe closer to three even or two and a half.


Maybe closer to three even or two and a half.

Yeah. Okay we'll s we'll say two point five. Okay um so we have it within cost anyway. Um so yeah project evaluation is this point. Um.


Yeah. Okay we'll s we'll say two point five. Okay um so we have it within cost anyway. Um so yeah project evaluation is this point. Um.

Right uh. Okay so can we close that ? This is what it's  the final spec that it's gonna be. Someone is gonna have to


Right uh. Okay so can we close that ? This is what it's  the final spec that it's gonna be. Someone is gonna have to


Right uh. Okay so can we close that ? This is what it's  the final spec that it's gonna be. Someone is gonna have to

Um it's probably just  I dunno if it's worth getting into , but um just in in that we want this to be stylish , should we think a little bit more out of the box in terms of a button grid , because I've seen there's lots of devices out there that that instead of taking your standard nine nine square grid , and they have it sort of stylized or in different concept that that


Um it's probably just  I dunno if it's worth getting into , but um just in in that we want this to be stylish , should we think a little bit more out of the box in terms of a button grid , because I've seen there's lots of devices out there that that instead of taking your standard nine nine square grid , and they have it sort of stylized or in different concept that that

I think that's something that's very hard to catch ,


Um it's probably just  I dunno if it's worth getting into , but um just in in that we want this to be stylish , should we think a little bit more out of the box in terms of a button grid , because I've seen there's lots of devices out there that that instead of taking your standard nine nine square grid , and they have it sort of stylized or in different concept that that

I think that's something that's very hard to catch ,

so you you restrict the number of people who wanna try something.


I think that's something that's very hard to catch ,

so you you restrict the number of people who wanna try something.


so you you restrict the number of people who wanna try something.

The the look and the colour is something which is cool ,


The the look and the colour is something which is cool ,

but I think that there's also that factor of if it's too unfamiliar


but I think that there's also that factor of if it's too unfamiliar

then um  because when you put it on the shelf


but I think that there's also that factor of if it's too unfamiliar

then um  because when you put it on the shelf

What about button shape ? Square buttons ?


then um  because when you put it on the shelf

What about button shape ? Square buttons ?

Yeah button shape might be a good idea to change , rather than rather than positioning ,


What about button shape ? Square buttons ?

Yeah button shape might be a good idea to change , rather than rather than positioning ,

'cause I think positioning is  we're kinda engrained into the the telephone kind of


Yeah button shape might be a good idea to change , rather than rather than positioning ,

'cause I think positioning is  we're kinda engrained into the the telephone kind of


'cause I think positioning is  we're kinda engrained into the the telephone kind of


Right um. So at this point we uh , let me see , discuss uh how satisfied we all are with um with these four points , with the room for creativity in the project , and leadership and teamwork , and the stuff we had around us I guess.


Right um. So at this point we uh , let me see , discuss uh how satisfied we all are with um with these four points , with the room for creativity in the project , and leadership and teamwork , and the stuff we had around us I guess.

Do you want me to d um   Do you want me to do my um design evaluation last ?


Do you want me to d um   Do you want me to do my um design evaluation last ?

Maybe we should do the design evaluation first.


Maybe we should do the design evaluation first.


, yeah go for that first. I wasn't entirely sure what uh  who was supposed to be doing that ,


, yeah go for that first. I wasn't entirely sure what uh  who was supposed to be doing that ,

Sure. Um , alright so the way this works , I'm gonna need to plug into PowerPoint ,


Sure. Um , alright so the way this works , I'm gonna need to plug into PowerPoint ,


Sure. Um , alright so the way this works , I'm gonna need to plug into PowerPoint ,

I'll try and do it as quick as possible.


I'll try and do it as quick as possible.

Um , this is um  I'll just go over your head if that's okay.


Um , this is um  I'll just go over your head if that's okay.


Yeah , so then you have a bit more freedom to


Yeah , so then you have a bit more freedom to

yeah that's true. Let me get that. A bit more.


yeah that's true. Let me get that. A bit more.

so what this is is a set-up for us to um uh use a kind of a like a


so what this is is a set-up for us to um uh use a kind of a like a


so what this is is a set-up for us to um uh use a kind of a like a

The idea is that I've set up  I've reviewed all of the um the points of discussion from the beginning , and used that as a criteria of evaluation for the um uh for the current design uh th or the plan , and uh so we can review that. Uh I think it's gonna end up being sort of elementary because we're sort we're in n we're not gonna probably use it to change anything but  Doesn't seem like it's going , does it ?


The idea is that I've set up  I've reviewed all of the um the points of discussion from the beginning , and used that as a criteria of evaluation for the um uh for the current design uh th or the plan , and uh so we can review that. Uh I think it's gonna end up being sort of elementary because we're sort we're in n we're not gonna probably use it to change anything but  Doesn't seem like it's going , does it ?


The idea is that I've set up  I've reviewed all of the um the points of discussion from the beginning , and used that as a criteria of evaluation for the um uh for the current design uh th or the plan , and uh so we can review that. Uh I think it's gonna end up being sort of elementary because we're sort we're in n we're not gonna probably use it to change anything but  Doesn't seem like it's going , does it ?

Yeah , okay great. Uh and I'm gonna write up our results on the board , so this'll be a way for us to go through and decide if we're um  sort of review where we stand with it. Okay , so um  So to sort of b bring together two things , sort of design goals and also the market research that we had , uh when we rate this , one is v high in in succeeding or fitting to our original aim and seven is low ,


Yeah , okay great. Uh and I'm gonna write up our results on the board , so this'll be a way for us to go through and decide if we're um  sort of review where we stand with it. Okay , so um  So to sort of b bring together two things , sort of design goals and also the market research that we had , uh when we rate this , one is v high in in succeeding or fitting to our original aim and seven is low ,

okay. So these i these i th are the  and um we've been asked to uh to collectively rate this , so what we can do is try and just y work on a consensus system so we just come to an agreement.


okay. So these i these i th are the  and um we've been asked to uh to collectively rate this , so what we can do is try and just y work on a consensus system so we just come to an agreement.

Okay ? So the first one uh , stylish look and feel.


Okay ? So the first one uh , stylish look and feel.

Well yeah , I mean compared to most remote controls you see that's pretty good.


Well yeah , I mean compared to most remote controls you see that's pretty good.


Yeah um me uh my only reservation with it was that we basically went with yellow because it's the company's colour ,


Yeah um me uh my only reservation with it was that we basically went with yellow because it's the company's colour ,

and I don't know if yellow's gonna really be a hit.


and I don't know if yellow's gonna really be a hit.


Wait , what's the scale , one to seven , right ?


Wait , what's the scale , one to seven , right ?

One's high-ish isn't it ? Ah , okay so yeah , two or three.


One's high-ish isn't it ? Ah , okay so yeah , two or three.


Yeah , so we've had to remove a few of our features we wanted ,


but going towards a little bit higher than medium kind of thing.


Style reflects a fruit inspired colour , design.


Style reflects a fruit inspired colour , design.

Okay , the blue the blue colours and  don't re don't actually represent the colour ,


Okay , the blue the blue colours and  don't re don't actually represent the colour ,


But the yellow , I mean it could be a lemon yellow colour ,


But the yellow , I mean it could be a lemon yellow colour ,

Yeah , the the yellow is more representative of the colour ,


Yeah , the the yellow is more representative of the colour ,

but the button itself , the blue can be anything else.


but the button itself , the blue can be anything else.


Yeah ? Okay , and um design is simple to use , simple in features.


Yeah ? Okay , and um design is simple to use , simple in features.

Well yeah , I mean it's really basic looking isn't it ?


Well yeah , I mean it's really basic looking isn't it ?


Yeah , one ? Okay.  Um ,  soft and spongy , have we achieved that ? We've used mostly plastic in the end so it's going to be quite a bit of a compromise for price.


could we have used an entirely rubber frame to it ? Was that an option ?


We've only got  like what , ten cents left so


We've only got  like what , ten cents left so

Okay , logo , we've got it in there , haven't we ?


Okay , logo , we've got it in there , haven't we ?

Yep. Gonna have that on the side , aren't we , like there or something ?


Okay , logo , we've got it in there , haven't we ?

Yep. Gonna have that on the side , aren't we , like there or something ?

Huh. And um it's within budget , yep. It is , isn't it ?


Yep. Gonna have that on the side , aren't we , like there or something ?

Huh. And um it's within budget , yep. It is , isn't it ?


Yep. Gonna have that on the side , aren't we , like there or something ?

Huh. And um it's within budget , yep. It is , isn't it ?

Okay , so we can say then that uh out of a possible  or what would be our goal here ?


Huh. And um it's within budget , yep. It is , isn't it ?

Okay , so we can say then that uh out of a possible  or what would be our goal here ?


Okay , so we can say then that uh out of a possible  or what would be our goal here ?

Yeah , out of forty nine with with zero being the highest. We are at uh two , seven , eight , ten , fifteen point five.


Yeah , out of forty nine with with zero being the highest. We are at uh two , seven , eight , ten , fifteen point five.

So it's pretty good. Translates to something like about approximately seventy two percent efficacy of our original goal. Right ?


So it's pretty good. Translates to something like about approximately seventy two percent efficacy of our original goal. Right ?

I think 'cause if you turn that into a hundred it would be about


I think 'cause if you turn that into a hundred it would be about


So yeah ab well yeah about sixty nine , seventy percent yeah.


So yeah ab well yeah about sixty nine , seventy percent yeah.

Oh right , about seventy , yeah seventy percent.


So yeah ab well yeah about sixty nine , seventy percent yeah.

Oh right , about seventy , yeah seventy percent.

Okay , good. That was just a little formality for us to go through.


Oh right , about seventy , yeah seventy percent.

Okay , good. That was just a little formality for us to go through.


Okay , good. That was just a little formality for us to go through.


Yeah that's that's me. I did have one other um one other frame I thought , I mean I I d not knowing how we would deal with this information , I thought okay in theory this kind of a process would be about refining our design , revisiting our original goals.


Yeah that's that's me. I did have one other um one other frame I thought , I mean I I d not knowing how we would deal with this information , I thought okay in theory this kind of a process would be about refining our design , revisiting our original goals.

It's not something I need to p push through , but I thought should we thinking more about the dimensions , um sort of like more of a three dimensional shapes as well as opposed to just that flat um


It's not something I need to p push through , but I thought should we thinking more about the dimensions , um sort of like more of a three dimensional shapes as well as opposed to just that flat um

Could our design involve a series of colours so that it's more of like a line where we have like sort of the , I don't know like the harvest line or the vibrant ,


Could our design involve a series of colours so that it's more of like a line where we have like sort of the , I don't know like the harvest line or the vibrant ,

I dunno the   Whatever just some theme and then we have different tones , lime green , lemon.


I dunno the   Whatever just some theme and then we have different tones , lime green , lemon.

It's just discussion. I mean obviously we can just abandon this , it's fine. I'm just thinking about what we originally set out to do.


It's just discussion. I mean obviously we can just abandon this , it's fine. I'm just thinking about what we originally set out to do.


It's just discussion. I mean obviously we can just abandon this , it's fine. I'm just thinking about what we originally set out to do.

Okay , great um are you submitting the the um evaluation criteria or am I ? I don't know what your instructions have been.


Okay , great um are you submitting the the um evaluation criteria or am I ? I don't know what your instructions have been.

Um , I think to record it and uh I haven't been asked to submit it yet.


Um , I think to record it and uh I haven't been asked to submit it yet.

uh just wondering if I need to include it in the minutes ,


uh just wondering if I need to include it in the minutes ,

because if you're submitting it anyway then


because if you're submitting it anyway then


Cool. Um right , uh well next up then , because we've done finance , is the project evaluation.


Cool. Um right , uh well next up then , because we've done finance , is the project evaluation.

'Kay I'm I'm listening I'm just trying to incorporate the logo into the the thing , so I'm playing with the Play-Doh as well.


Cool. Um right , uh well next up then , because we've done finance , is the project evaluation.

'Kay I'm I'm listening I'm just trying to incorporate the logo into the the thing , so I'm playing with the Play-Doh as well.

Just in case you're wondering  , why is he still playing with the Play-Doh ?


'Kay I'm I'm listening I'm just trying to incorporate the logo into the the thing , so I'm playing with the Play-Doh as well.

Just in case you're wondering  , why is he still playing with the Play-Doh ?


Just in case you're wondering  , why is he still playing with the Play-Doh ?


Right , okay. Um well do you wanna um just individually say what you think about about these four points and   or not those four points , my four points , sorry , forgotten that.  You got a different uh


Right , okay. Um well do you wanna um just individually say what you think about about these four points and   or not those four points , my four points , sorry , forgotten that.  You got a different uh

Yep. I like those printer cables that just have the two little butterfly clips like that.


Right , okay. Um well do you wanna um just individually say what you think about about these four points and   or not those four points , my four points , sorry , forgotten that.  You got a different uh

Yep. I like those printer cables that just have the two little butterfly clips like that.

Oh yeah , they're good aren't they , yeah.


Yep. I like those printer cables that just have the two little butterfly clips like that.

Oh yeah , they're good aren't they , yeah.


Oh yeah , they're good aren't they , yeah.


um yeah here we are. Uh as a note we'll do this alphabetically.  Um do you wanna start Andrew ?


um yeah here we are. Uh as a note we'll do this alphabetically.  Um do you wanna start Andrew ?

Sure , um so what is it you're asking of me now ?


um yeah here we are. Uh as a note we'll do this alphabetically.  Um do you wanna start Andrew ?

Sure , um so what is it you're asking of me now ?

I don't know , just um your opinion on those four those four points really and how we used them.


Sure , um so what is it you're asking of me now ?

I don't know , just um your opinion on those four those four points really and how we used them.


I don't know , just um your opinion on those four those four points really and how we used them.

Yeah. Well , is it  uh okay I'll just go through your system then. The the room uh is fairly institutional , but um the main thing is , I think um our use of this space is more just to report on things as opposed to be creative and constructive and it would probably help to um have l sort of a cumulative effect of we have ideas and we come back and then the ideas are still in discussion , you know ,


Yeah. Well , is it  uh okay I'll just go through your system then. The the room uh is fairly institutional , but um the main thing is , I think um our use of this space is more just to report on things as opposed to be creative and constructive and it would probably help to um have l sort of a cumulative effect of we have ideas and we come back and then the ideas are still in discussion , you know ,


Yeah. Well , is it  uh okay I'll just go through your system then. The the room uh is fairly institutional , but um the main thing is , I think um our use of this space is more just to report on things as opposed to be creative and constructive and it would probably help to um have l sort of a cumulative effect of we have ideas and we come back and then the ideas are still in discussion , you know ,

as in other words this this room is sort of a centre point of creativity , whereas in reality as we've gone through this , it's not really the centre point of creativity , it's more just a


Yeah. Well , is it  uh okay I'll just go through your system then. The the room uh is fairly institutional , but um the main thing is , I think um our use of this space is more just to report on things as opposed to be creative and constructive and it would probably help to um have l sort of a cumulative effect of we have ideas and we come back and then the ideas are still in discussion , you know ,

as in other words this this room is sort of a centre point of creativity , whereas in reality as we've gone through this , it's not really the centre point of creativity , it's more just a

Well d do you feel though that that you were able to have quite a lot of creative input into the thing ?


as in other words this this room is sort of a centre point of creativity , whereas in reality as we've gone through this , it's not really the centre point of creativity , it's more just a

Well d do you feel though that that you were able to have quite a lot of creative input into the thing ?

d debating  Yeah , yeah but that's just the thing is the quest in terms of the the first point there , the room , it feels as though the creativity goes on when we leave , and then we come here and then we kind of put out our ideas and then , you know.


as in other words this this room is sort of a centre point of creativity , whereas in reality as we've gone through this , it's not really the centre point of creativity , it's more just a

Well d do you feel though that that you were able to have quite a lot of creative input into the thing ?

d debating  Yeah , yeah but that's just the thing is the quest in terms of the the first point there , the room , it feels as though the creativity goes on when we leave , and then we come here and then we kind of put out our ideas and then , you know.

But I don't I don't think it means the room as in this room. I think it means like you know


Well d do you feel though that that you were able to have quite a lot of creative input into the thing ?

d debating  Yeah , yeah but that's just the thing is the quest in terms of the the first point there , the room , it feels as though the creativity goes on when we leave , and then we come here and then we kind of put out our ideas and then , you know.

But I don't I don't think it means the room as in this room. I think it means like you know

Oh , oh right right , oh right okay room for creativ


d debating  Yeah , yeah but that's just the thing is the quest in terms of the the first point there , the room , it feels as though the creativity goes on when we leave , and then we come here and then we kind of put out our ideas and then , you know.

But I don't I don't think it means the room as in this room. I think it means like you know

Oh , oh right right , oh right okay room for creativ


But I don't I don't think it means the room as in this room. I think it means like you know

Oh , oh right right , oh right okay room for creativ

Oh right I just looked up and saw okay whiteboard , digital pens , the room.


Oh , oh right right , oh right okay room for creativ

Oh right I just looked up and saw okay whiteboard , digital pens , the room.


Oh right I just looked up and saw okay whiteboard , digital pens , the room.


Oh right I just looked up and saw okay whiteboard , digital pens , the room.

Well I dunno do you th I think it means um I think it means did you feel you were able to give creative input so


Well I dunno do you th I think it means um I think it means did you feel you were able to give creative input so

Sorry. Huh. Yeah. Yeah I th okay on th um yeah dif answering the question uh in those terms I'd say that actually there's sort of a tease of creativity because we're asked to work through this , but actually the guidelines are fairly contrived in terms of um okay fashion trends , say fruit and vegetable colour scheme ,


Well I dunno do you th I think it means um I think it means did you feel you were able to give creative input so

Sorry. Huh. Yeah. Yeah I th okay on th um yeah dif answering the question uh in those terms I'd say that actually there's sort of a tease of creativity because we're asked to work through this , but actually the guidelines are fairly contrived in terms of um okay fashion trends , say fruit and vegetable colour scheme ,

but then i then we're told okay use the co company company colours.


Sorry. Huh. Yeah. Yeah I th okay on th um yeah dif answering the question uh in those terms I'd say that actually there's sort of a tease of creativity because we're asked to work through this , but actually the guidelines are fairly contrived in terms of um okay fashion trends , say fruit and vegetable colour scheme ,

but then i then we're told okay use the co company company colours.


but then i then we're told okay use the co company company colours.

So what do we do. We're told okay um think in terms of style and look and feel and technology , but build something for twelve and a half pounds ,


So what do we do. We're told okay um think in terms of style and look and feel and technology , but build something for twelve and a half pounds ,

so actually the creativity was more more of like a um a f sort of a f formality then an actual


So what do we do. We're told okay um think in terms of style and look and feel and technology , but build something for twelve and a half pounds ,

so actually the creativity was more more of like a um a f sort of a f formality then an actual

You feel like you're caged within whatever y


so actually the creativity was more more of like a um a f sort of a f formality then an actual

You feel like you're caged within whatever y


You feel like you're caged within whatever y

It's like a balloon in a cage , it can only go so big and not hit the side.


It's like a balloon in a cage , it can only go so big and not hit the side.


actually let's take each point and everybody discuss it , I think.


So still on the topic of room for creativity uh next up is Craig.


So still on the topic of room for creativity uh next up is Craig.

Um I agree with his point it's um it is quite a lot of fun t to go and then you have sort of hit the end then go right , gotta cut everything out 'cause we don't have enough money.


Um I agree with his point it's um it is quite a lot of fun t to go and then you have sort of hit the end then go right , gotta cut everything out 'cause we don't have enough money.


I think another point is that the meetings um are more brainstorming sessions than meetings ,


I think another point is that the meetings um are more brainstorming sessions than meetings ,

so time is also a very s um strong factor , and structure.


so time is also a very s um strong factor , and structure.


so time is also a very s um strong factor , and structure.

Because for a brainstorming meeting you want a structure that allows you to  allows ideas to get tossed , um to be evaluated , and to be reviewed , and to get feedback and come back.


Because for a brainstorming meeting you want a structure that allows you to  allows ideas to get tossed , um to be evaluated , and to be reviewed , and to get feedback and come back.


Because for a brainstorming meeting you want a structure that allows you to  allows ideas to get tossed , um to be evaluated , and to be reviewed , and to get feedback and come back.

And I guess that point about the room not being r very friendly to that , I think that's a very big thing ,


And I guess that point about the room not being r very friendly to that , I think that's a very big thing ,


And I guess that point about the room not being r very friendly to that , I think that's a very big thing ,

and I think the fact that we're wearing these things restricts


and I think the fact that we're wearing these things restricts

I feel it 'cause I wear m my glasses , right , and that but that irritates me right


I feel it 'cause I wear m my glasses , right , and that but that irritates me right

it it it does actually you know affect how , w whether you feel comfortable to communicate.


it it it does actually you know affect how , w whether you feel comfortable to communicate.

I feel like I'm hiding behind the equipment , rather than the equipment is helping me , and you know.


I feel like I'm hiding behind the equipment , rather than the equipment is helping me , and you know.

So you think a more relaxed atmosphere would be more kind of conducive to creative thought or


So you think a more relaxed atmosphere would be more kind of conducive to creative thought or

Not not so much an atmosphere , the atmosphere is very relaxed , but the the gear


Not not so much an atmosphere , the atmosphere is very relaxed , but the the gear

yeah you know that creates boundaries to that um


yeah you know that creates boundaries to that um

and and the time the time given also restricts


and and the time the time given also restricts


I don't know if that means like , if I did a good job or something.


I don't know if that means like , if I did a good job or something.

Yeah , well well I mean my sense on that is sort of what kind of guidance and direction , encouragement


I don't know if that means like , if I did a good job or something.

Yeah , well well I mean my sense on that is sort of what kind of guidance and direction , encouragement

From like your personal coach person and stuff like that , do you think maybe ?


Yeah , well well I mean my sense on that is sort of what kind of guidance and direction , encouragement

From like your personal coach person and stuff like that , do you think maybe ?

Yeah from  and you as well I think , just sort of acting as team leader.


From like your personal coach person and stuff like that , do you think maybe ?

Yeah from  and you as well I think , just sort of acting as team leader.


Yeah from  and you as well I think , just sort of acting as team leader.


I think it's good. I mean my personal views on on leadership is that effective effective leadership sort of um gives people a certain room for freedom and delegation , but then to come back with something that they take great ownership and


I think it's good. I mean my personal views on on leadership is that effective effective leadership sort of um gives people a certain room for freedom and delegation , but then to come back with something that they take great ownership and

you know , innovative thought with. In in reality I think here the the different elements of leadership such as the the original b briefing and then the personal coach and the and then you know having having you with your  the meeting agenda is actually quite a quite a  quite a con confining framework to work within. And so it is leadership almost to the point of sort of disempowering the the the team member , so


you know , innovative thought with. In in reality I think here the the different elements of leadership such as the the original b briefing and then the personal coach and the and then you know having having you with your  the meeting agenda is actually quite a quite a  quite a con confining framework to work within. And so it is leadership almost to the point of sort of disempowering the the the team member , so

But it's not bad leadership , it's just sort of s fairly strong , you know. It turns it turns the individual into more of like a um sort of a predetermined mechanism , as opposed to a sort of a free


you know , innovative thought with. In in reality I think here the the different elements of leadership such as the the original b briefing and then the personal coach and the and then you know having having you with your  the meeting agenda is actually quite a quite a  quite a con confining framework to work within. And so it is leadership almost to the point of sort of disempowering the the the team member , so

But it's not bad leadership , it's just sort of s fairly strong , you know. It turns it turns the individual into more of like a um sort of a predetermined mechanism , as opposed to a sort of a free

So you think maybe a little too controlling or


But it's not bad leadership , it's just sort of s fairly strong , you know. It turns it turns the individual into more of like a um sort of a predetermined mechanism , as opposed to a sort of a free

So you think maybe a little too controlling or

Yeah , oh yeah , without without a doubt.


But it's not bad leadership , it's just sort of s fairly strong , you know. It turns it turns the individual into more of like a um sort of a predetermined mechanism , as opposed to a sort of a free

So you think maybe a little too controlling or

Yeah , oh yeah , without without a doubt.

I think controlling is not the right word , I think the interactions are very structured.


So you think maybe a little too controlling or

Yeah , oh yeah , without without a doubt.

I think controlling is not the right word , I think the interactions are very structured.


Yeah , oh yeah , without without a doubt.

I think controlling is not the right word , I think the interactions are very structured.

I think structure is probably what you're saying that , each individual is structured to one particular task , and one parti rather than controlling.


I think controlling is not the right word , I think the interactions are very structured.

I think structure is probably what you're saying that , each individual is structured to one particular task , and one parti rather than controlling.


I think structure is probably what you're saying that , each individual is structured to one particular task , and one parti rather than controlling.


I think structure is probably what you're saying that , each individual is structured to one particular task , and one parti rather than controlling.

I don't think there's a sense of control 'cause all the decisions have been made in terms of a , like a consensus right , we go around and we think about it ,


I don't think there's a sense of control 'cause all the decisions have been made in terms of a , like a consensus right , we go around and we think about it ,


I don't think there's a sense of control 'cause all the decisions have been made in terms of a , like a consensus right , we go around and we think about it ,

but that you know process actually says you have to do it in a certain way.


but that you know process actually says you have to do it in a certain way.


but that you know process actually says you have to do it in a certain way.

It doesn't tell you , you know , some ways that you might wanna be a bit more creative in terms of the process you know , not the


It doesn't tell you , you know , some ways that you might wanna be a bit more creative in terms of the process you know , not the


Uh , reckon that was a bit hard because we could only discuss things in the meeting.