But if you go from two to eight , and you want

Or if you're watching Studio Sports on uh on seventeen , and your wife is watching some soap on two

Yeah , and on two. That you can switch switch easy.

Well yes , I think that's a good idea. But um , well m my preference would to be put it in the menu structure.


Or if you're watching Studio Sports on uh on seventeen , and your wife is watching some soap on two

Yeah , and on two. That you can switch switch easy.

Well yes , I think that's a good idea. But um , well m my preference would to be put it in the menu structure.


Yeah , and on two. That you can switch switch easy.

Well yes , I think that's a good idea. But um , well m my preference would to be put it in the menu structure.

And if you're using that button a lot of times , well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels , you won't have time uh to d use the other options.


Well yes , I think that's a good idea. But um , well m my preference would to be put it in the menu structure.

And if you're using that button a lot of times , well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels , you won't have time uh to d use the other options.


And if you're using that button a lot of times , well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels , you won't have time uh to d use the other options.


Uh  I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with. The parental control , the games , and the voice recognition.


Uh  I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with. The parental control , the games , and the voice recognition.

There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh  I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote. I don't know how you think about it.


There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh  I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote. I don't know how you think about it.

Well , I agree , just put it in the menu structure somewhere.


Well , I agree , just put it in the menu structure somewhere.

Um , yeah um system properties , um parental control.


Well , I agree , just put it in the menu structure somewhere.

Um , yeah um system properties , um parental control.

Yeah but  What I see uh   How I see it is you put it on the the remote and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents , children.


Um , yeah um system properties , um parental control.

Yeah but  What I see uh   How I see it is you put it on the the remote and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents , children.


Yeah but  What I see uh   How I see it is you put it on the the remote and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents , children.


And w when you want to use the parents uh option , you have to


And w when you want to use the parents uh option , you have to

It it has to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds of settings.


And w when you want to use the parents uh option , you have to

It it has to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds of settings.

No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh on the television , and uh wait uh ten or fifteen seconds longer , so they can uh finally watch it uh because of that.


It it has to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds of settings.

No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh on the television , and uh wait uh ten or fifteen seconds longer , so they can uh finally watch it uh because of that.

Mm-hmm. Why  Mm-hmm. You c may use  like when there's uh X_P_ , uh a simple log-on , d you just push uh one or two or three.


No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh on the television , and uh wait uh ten or fifteen seconds longer , so they can uh finally watch it uh because of that.

Mm-hmm. Why  Mm-hmm. You c may use  like when there's uh X_P_ , uh a simple log-on , d you just push uh one or two or three.


Mm-hmm. Why  Mm-hmm. You c may use  like when there's uh X_P_ , uh a simple log-on , d you just push uh one or two or three.


That  then then then you have to uh go to three-digit uh log-in.


That  then then then you have to uh go to three-digit uh log-in.

Yeah. To log in. Yeah. And if you puts a ye


Yeah. To log in. Yeah. And if you puts a ye


And if you w you push p children , uh you don't have to uh log in , but you can only watch uh children's channels or uh


I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it. Because well it's a simple function , but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it. Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such. And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it.


I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it. Because well it's a simple function , but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it. Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such. And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it.

Well I think that's a b there's a big market for it ,


Well I think that's a b there's a big market for it ,

because uh you  Yeah , you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff , and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah , they believe that children uh are influenced by the television ,


because uh you  Yeah , you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff , and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah , they believe that children uh are influenced by the television ,

and uh  Well , we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh


because uh you  Yeah , you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff , and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah , they believe that children uh are influenced by the television ,

and uh  Well , we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh

Yeah. Well , maybe um some idea on that.


and uh  Well , we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh

Yeah. Well , maybe um some idea on that.


and uh  Well , we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh

Yeah. Well , maybe um some idea on that.

Just make through a remote as it is , but make an option to insert profiles ,


Yeah. Well , maybe um some idea on that.

Just make through a remote as it is , but make an option to insert profiles ,


Just make through a remote as it is , but make an option to insert profiles ,

'cause if my grandad would buy this remote , he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the  uh things to do.


'cause if my grandad would buy this remote , he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the  uh things to do.


'cause if my grandad would buy this remote , he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the  uh things to do.

Just make it an option in menu , ins install powerful profiles or something.


Just make it an option in menu , ins install powerful profiles or something.


Yeah , w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store , it has to be just simple and plain.


Yeah , w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store , it has to be just simple and plain.

But if you want to install it personally uh  If I got kids , and I could choose between uh two remote controls. One uh w with parent control and one without , and I would would buy the one with.


But if you want to install it personally uh  If I got kids , and I could choose between uh two remote controls. One uh w with parent control and one without , and I would would buy the one with.

Um , b well , still some question I have about how to incorporate those ones.


Um , b well , still some question I have about how to incorporate those ones.

You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see , but well ,  I I  when I think , oh yeah , for the f for all the standard channels , and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come


Um , b well , still some question I have about how to incorporate those ones.

You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see , but well ,  I I  when I think , oh yeah , for the f for all the standard channels , and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come

and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed  instead of uh of channels ,


You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see , but well ,  I I  when I think , oh yeah , for the f for all the standard channels , and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come

and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed  instead of uh of channels ,


You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see , but well ,  I I  when I think , oh yeah , for the f for all the standard channels , and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come

and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed  instead of uh of channels ,

because if you're watching uh , I don't know , you're in the  at day uh , cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night.  I don't know.


and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed  instead of uh of channels ,

because if you're watching uh , I don't know , you're in the  at day uh , cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night.  I don't know.

Yeah , maybe it can work with show view. Uh , you you can control your video recorder with show view.


because if you're watching uh , I don't know , you're in the  at day uh , cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night.  I don't know.

Yeah , maybe it can work with show view. Uh , you you can control your video recorder with show view.

Uh , when you tick in a number , it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent , and that they are blocked out.


because if you're watching uh , I don't know , you're in the  at day uh , cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night.  I don't know.

Yeah , maybe it can work with show view. Uh , you you can control your video recorder with show view.

Uh , when you tick in a number , it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent , and that they are blocked out.

Yeah , the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that they  remotes and edit it all ,


Yeah , maybe it can work with show view. Uh , you you can control your video recorder with show view.

Uh , when you tick in a number , it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent , and that they are blocked out.

Yeah , the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that they  remotes and edit it all ,


Uh , when you tick in a number , it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent , and that they are blocked out.

Yeah , the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that they  remotes and edit it all ,


Yeah , the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that they  remotes and edit it all ,


But , well , if you want to  I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control , uh let's say we do , and and well whatever , cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up  for instance.


But , well , if you want to  I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control , uh let's say we do , and and well whatever , cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up  for instance.

Well uh , nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel.


Well uh , nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel.

Well , yeah you could say if parental control is only  it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then , but


Well uh , nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel.

Well , yeah you could say if parental control is only  it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then , but

But that  Well , I'm not sure because um for that to happen , you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control , so it would , yeah , have to be constant uh constant signalling.


Well , yeah you could say if parental control is only  it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then , but

But that  Well , I'm not sure because um for that to happen , you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control , so it would , yeah , have to be constant uh constant signalling.


But that  Well , I'm not sure because um for that to happen , you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control , so it would , yeah , have to be constant uh constant signalling.

What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control , for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's  there's   uh besides uh the remote control , you'll have a separate uh


What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control , for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's  there's   uh besides uh the remote control , you'll have a separate uh

I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much , I think.


What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control , for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's  there's   uh besides uh the remote control , you'll have a separate uh

I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much , I think.

If we do it , we we must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile , a parent profile , and a family profile , and otherwise.


I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much , I think.

If we do it , we we must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile , a parent profile , and a family profile , and otherwise.


If we do it , we we must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile , a parent profile , and a family profile , and otherwise.


If we do it , we we must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile , a parent profile , and a family profile , and otherwise.

And and you know w uh when you install another device , uh children can still go up to the T_V_ , p pop open uh the thing and and and g


And and you know w uh when you install another device , uh children can still go up to the T_V_ , p pop open uh the thing and and and g


but uh at same instant , same happens when uh you have remote control. So


but uh at same instant , same happens when uh you have remote control. So

But , only difference is uh  the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control ,


but uh at same instant , same happens when uh you have remote control. So

But , only difference is uh  the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control ,

and those people wouldn't uh necessary want it.


But , only difference is uh  the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control ,

and those people wouldn't uh necessary want it.


and those people wouldn't uh necessary want it.

Yeah. Yeah , okay. But it's just an an added feature feature.


Yeah. Yeah , okay. But it's just an an added feature feature.


Yeah. Yeah , okay. But it's just an an added feature feature.

Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition ? I personally think that that becomes too much.


Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition ? I personally think that that becomes too much.


Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition ? I personally think that that becomes too much.

It's more like it gets you to the functionality , but


Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition ? I personally think that that becomes too much.

It's more like it gets you to the functionality , but

A mail too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition.


It's more like it gets you to the functionality , but

A mail too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition.


It's more like it gets you to the functionality , but

A mail too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition.

But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh , hearing loud noises from the T_V_ , someone screaming  one , and you f the channel switches , uh  Yeah.


A mail too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition.

But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh , hearing loud noises from the T_V_ , someone screaming  one , and you f the channel switches , uh  Yeah.


But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh , hearing loud noises from the T_V_ , someone screaming  one , and you f the channel switches , uh  Yeah.


Yeah , like f voice recognition is too much , I think. But


As long as it's  isn't a primary feature of the remote ,


As long as it's  isn't a primary feature of the remote ,

Yeah , that that doesn't cost a lot of extra resources , I think.


Yeah , that that doesn't cost a lot of extra resources , I think.

Okay. So that will uh  that that that must be in it , you think ?


Yeah , that that doesn't cost a lot of extra resources , I think.

Okay. So that will uh  that that that must be in it , you think ?

Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are


Okay. So that will uh  that that that must be in it , you think ?

Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are


Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are


Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are

Yeah , it's it's in it. But too ma I I think so , but


Yeah , it's it's in it. But too ma I I think so , but


Yeah , it's it's in it. But too ma I I think so , but

Well , I think also it's a good idea , buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex.


Well , I think also it's a good idea , buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex.


Well , I think also it's a good idea , buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex.

Is t some menu uh function , you choose parental control , and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put it on.


Is t some menu uh function , you choose parental control , and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put it on.

But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh will f be a problem.


Is t some menu uh function , you choose parental control , and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put it on.

But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh will f be a problem.

Yeah , okay. Uh , but uh will there uh uh  Like the first idea uh from uh  You can buy it without and uh with parental contr control ? Or are we going to put it in and uh just uh


But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh will f be a problem.

Yeah , okay. Uh , but uh will there uh uh  Like the first idea uh from uh  You can buy it without and uh with parental contr control ? Or are we going to put it in and uh just uh

Mm-hmm. Well  Ye I I think best would be uh to put it in and  make it an menu option.


Yeah , okay. Uh , but uh will there uh uh  Like the first idea uh from uh  You can buy it without and uh with parental contr control ? Or are we going to put it in and uh just uh

Mm-hmm. Well  Ye I I think best would be uh to put it in and  make it an menu option.


Mm-hmm. Well  Ye I I think best would be uh to put it in and  make it an menu option.


Yeah. And you can just uh s when you buy it , you can select um personal preference , parental control on , and the password or something.


Yeah. And you can just uh s when you buy it , you can select um personal preference , parental control on , and the password or something.

Well , I don't know. I I figure if you had two different remotes , you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it. So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control. But it would would be uh more expensive. So , a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model. Could ma make the uh  simple model and the deluxe model , uh for instance.


Well , I don't know. I I figure if you had two different remotes , you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it. So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control. But it would would be uh more expensive. So , a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model. Could ma make the uh  simple model and the deluxe model , uh for instance.

Yeah , but T_V_s aren't capable of sending.


Yeah , but T_V_s aren't capable of sending.


Well , maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs , where the parent says , you cannot watch channel seven , nine , and ten , and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock.


Well , maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs , where the parent says , you cannot watch channel seven , nine , and ten , and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock.

And there's just some little uh clock in the remote.


Well , maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs , where the parent says , you cannot watch channel seven , nine , and ten , and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock.

And there's just some little uh clock in the remote.

Well yeah , you could you could easily you could easily you could easily  to the mote control.


And there's just some little uh clock in the remote.

Well yeah , you could you could easily you could easily you could easily  to the mote control.


Well yeah , you could you could easily you could easily you could easily  to the mote control.

But you still have the problem about uh the television itself.


But you still have the problem about uh the television itself.

No , no , it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of  remotes who have a clock in it.


But you still have the problem about uh the television itself.

No , no , it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of  remotes who have a clock in it.

So , the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after twelve clock.


No , no , it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of  remotes who have a clock in it.

So , the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after twelve clock.


So , the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after twelve clock.


So , the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after twelve clock.

at least my T_V_ , is a is a compartment which you can press.


at least my T_V_ , is a is a compartment which you can press.


at least my T_V_ , is a is a compartment which you can press.

And there are buttons uh behind it which you can use , if you d if you don't if you don't have a


And there are buttons uh behind it which you can use , if you d if you don't if you don't have a


And there are buttons uh behind it which you can use , if you d if you don't if you don't have a

Yeah. Well , that's  To put it very blunt , that's not our problem. Just have um the parents buy uh some glue and uh  It's not not a part of the remote.


Yeah. Well , that's  To put it very blunt , that's not our problem. Just have um the parents buy uh some glue and uh  It's not not a part of the remote.

Yeah , that is true. Yeah , that is true.


Yeah , that is true. Yeah , that is true.

Yeah , you could you could you could go like


Yeah , you could you could you could go like

uh that that would actually make uh things a lot more easy.


uh that that would actually make uh things a lot more easy.

You could just blame it on television and uh make it their problem.


You could just blame it on television and uh make it their problem.


You could just blame it on television and uh make it their problem.

Yeah , I figured  I figure we could do that. Yeah , yeah , sure.


Yeah , I figured  I figure we could do that. Yeah , yeah , sure.


Yeah , I figured  I figure we could do that. Yeah , yeah , sure.

Uh , I'm not sure what marketing thinks about it , but


Uh , I'm not sure what marketing thinks about it , but


Uh , I'm not sure what marketing thinks about it , but

I have to uh  consult my legal advisor about it.


I have to uh  consult my legal advisor about it.

Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that  Uh from Janus , the energy , the combination between battery and kinetic.


I have to uh  consult my legal advisor about it.

Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that  Uh from Janus , the energy , the combination between battery and kinetic.

The case will be double-curved and uh rubber , in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that  with cover is removable.


I have to uh  consult my legal advisor about it.

Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that  Uh from Janus , the energy , the combination between battery and kinetic.

The case will be double-curved and uh rubber , in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that  with cover is removable.

The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure , uh there must not to be uh  Five minutes to go. Uh , too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated , but it must be not too complex. And the games  are in it. So


Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that  Uh from Janus , the energy , the combination between battery and kinetic.

The case will be double-curved and uh rubber , in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that  with cover is removable.

The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure , uh there must not to be uh  Five minutes to go. Uh , too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated , but it must be not too complex. And the games  are in it. So

I think we have uh we have decided uh , okay.


The case will be double-curved and uh rubber , in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that  with cover is removable.

The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure , uh there must not to be uh  Five minutes to go. Uh , too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated , but it must be not too complex. And the games  are in it. So

I think we have uh we have decided uh , okay.


The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure , uh there must not to be uh  Five minutes to go. Uh , too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated , but it must be not too complex. And the games  are in it. So

I think we have uh we have decided uh , okay.


I think we have uh we have decided uh , okay.


Um , the views. Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view.


Um , the views. Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view.

Like a like a moat or s or something. Yeah.


Like a like a moat or s or something. Yeah.


Like at  In the experts view , you have a lot of more buttons.


Like at  In the experts view , you have a lot of more buttons.

What I was thinking about is just a menu structure , when you don't use it is simple.


What I was thinking about is just a menu structure , when you don't use it is simple.

And when you push uh system properties , uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program.


And when you push uh system properties , uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program.

Yeah. It's already incorporated a little in that concept.


Yeah. It's already incorporated a little in that concept.

Well yeah , you you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself , for the more advanced users.


Yeah. It's already incorporated a little in that concept.

Well yeah , you you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself , for the more advanced users.

Yeah , wh which buttons you like or not.


Well yeah , you you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself , for the more advanced users.

Yeah , wh which buttons you like or not.

Yeah , which buttons do you want to in it. Because you can you can like build in a back-forward button , and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels.


Well yeah , you you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself , for the more advanced users.

Yeah , wh which buttons you like or not.

Yeah , which buttons do you want to in it. Because you can you can like build in a back-forward button , and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels.

Yeah. Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away.


Yeah , wh which buttons you like or not.

Yeah , which buttons do you want to in it. Because you can you can like build in a back-forward button , and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels.

Yeah. Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away.


Yeah , which buttons do you want to in it. Because you can you can like build in a back-forward button , and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels.

Yeah. Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away.

Yeah , you could you could m have people want uh want that.


Yeah. Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away.

Yeah , you could you could m have people want uh want that.

We take it to the other meeting , okay ? I have a little w uh little chat to do


Yeah , you could you could m have people want uh want that.

We take it to the other meeting , okay ? I have a little w uh little chat to do


We take it to the other meeting , okay ? I have a little w uh little chat to do


I went to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh  can come in handy uh for us.


I went to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh  can come in handy uh for us.

First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge , uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is  uh like that.


I went to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh  can come in handy uh for us.

First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge , uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is  uh like that.

so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other uh


First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge , uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is  uh like that.

so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other uh


so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other uh


What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote , just some uh  Yeah.  Import export.


What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote , just some uh  Yeah.  Import export.

Uh , they're a ha they're at  Yeah , benchmarking , that's the word I saw.


Uh , they're a ha they're at  Yeah , benchmarking , that's the word I saw.

I uh couldn't uh  Okay , uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey , and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider , instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So , we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company , uh a trustful company , and uh it has m


Uh , they're a ha they're at  Yeah , benchmarking , that's the word I saw.

I uh couldn't uh  Okay , uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey , and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider , instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So , we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company , uh a trustful company , and uh it has m

How  I know a marketing name for our product.


I uh couldn't uh  Okay , uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey , and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider , instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So , we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company , uh a trustful company , and uh it has m

How  I know a marketing name for our product.


How  I know a marketing name for our product.


I had a I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing.


I had a I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing.

When you uh put on remote , you see a kind of a  just like when you telephone , you see a little uh animation.


When you uh put on remote , you see a kind of a  just like when you telephone , you see a little uh animation.


And uh with the with the with the motto , we put fashion in electronics. And then you go uh


And uh with the with the with the motto , we put fashion in electronics. And then you go uh

Yeah , okay , but it has to be like a split second , because  you have to put in a code also and


Yeah , okay , but it has to be like a split second , because  you have to put in a code also and

Yeah. Well , you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds , they'll still remember it.


Yeah , okay , but it has to be like a split second , because  you have to put in a code also and

Yeah. Well , you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds , they'll still remember it.

Yeah. But w th the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a  as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own.


Yeah. Well , you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds , they'll still remember it.

Yeah. But w th the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a  as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own.


Yeah. Well , you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds , they'll still remember it.

Yeah. But w th the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a  as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own.

And it it l linger on every time you see it.


Yeah. But w th the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a  as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own.

And it it l linger on every time you see it.

Well , if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen , you can  you can uh have a small logo i uh at the bottom.


And it it l linger on every time you see it.

Well , if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen , you can  you can uh have a small logo i uh at the bottom.


Well , if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen , you can  you can uh have a small logo i uh at the bottom.


It it's just like a uh globe in Internet Explorer.


It it's just like a uh globe in Internet Explorer.

Yeah. Yeah , something like that. A small icon.


Yeah. Yeah , something like that. A small icon.

Okay , but uh think about that kind of things.


Yeah. Yeah , something like that. A small icon.

Okay , but uh think about that kind of things.

That's what they said in the master class.  .


Okay , but uh think about that kind of things.

That's what they said in the master class.  .


That's what they said in the master class.  .


That's what they said in the master class.  .

N  Uh , next meeting starts in thirty minutes.


N  Uh , next meeting starts in thirty minutes.


N  Uh , next meeting starts in thirty minutes.

So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh  once again.


So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh  once again.


Uh idea that you uh  the the industrial uh development uh centre  and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype.


Uh idea that you uh  the the industrial uh development uh centre  and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype.

And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing. And um , the marketing expert will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation.


Uh idea that you uh  the the industrial uh development uh centre  and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype.

And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing. And um , the marketing expert will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation.

But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email.


And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing. And um , the marketing expert will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation.

But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email.


But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email.

So we're going to work together right now ?


So we're going to work together right now ?

Yeah , the  well , uh dids this what I uh what I heard. I


Yeah , the  well , uh dids this what I uh what I heard. I


So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh


So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh

But I think it was a very uh very good uh session , uh gentlemen.


But I think it was a very uh very good uh session , uh gentlemen.


But keep an eye on your uh laptops for a real uh


But keep an eye on your uh laptops for a real uh

Yeah , uh I'm not sure if we uh we  Because I saw something about individual actions.


But keep an eye on your uh laptops for a real uh

Yeah , uh I'm not sure if we uh we  Because I saw something about individual actions.

Yeah , but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together.


Yeah , uh I'm not sure if we uh we  Because I saw something about individual actions.

Yeah , but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together.


Yeah , but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together.


Kick-off meeting , wow. It's uh looks uh nice.


Kick-off meeting , wow. It's uh looks uh nice.

I'm afraid I'm a bit slow for this stuff uh.


I'm afraid I'm a bit slow for this stuff uh.

I'm afraid I'm a bit too slow.  I don't know how much preparation you guys did ,


I'm afraid I'm a bit too slow.  I don't know how much preparation you guys did ,


Uh opening acquaintance , tool training , uh how to use the things here. Uh project plan discussion , and yeah then the rest of the meeting.


Uh opening acquaintance , tool training , uh how to use the things here. Uh project plan discussion , and yeah then the rest of the meeting.

Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control , that's both original , trendy and user-friendly. So ,


Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control , that's both original , trendy and user-friendly. So ,


Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control , that's both original , trendy and user-friendly. So ,

Um we're work we're working uh from top to bottom. Uh functional design ,


Um we're work we're working uh from top to bottom. Uh functional design ,


Um we're work we're working uh from top to bottom. Uh functional design ,

then we do some in individual work , then we have a meeting to discuss the results , etcetera etcetera. And at the end of the day we should have a prototype drawn up. Uh we have available the smart board and the whiteboard. Um uh we should take some practice. I have some instructions now to do that.


then we do some in individual work , then we have a meeting to discuss the results , etcetera etcetera. And at the end of the day we should have a prototype drawn up. Uh we have available the smart board and the whiteboard. Um uh we should take some practice. I have some instructions now to do that.

Uh well you know how to  the documents work. So  Uh this for toolbar. You see it next. Um we have a pen. And we can use this pen to perform.


Uh well you know how to  the documents work. So  Uh this for toolbar. You see it next. Um we have a pen. And we can use this pen to perform.


Okay and in the format menu you can select colour and line width , etcetera etcetera. Okay ?


Okay and in the format menu you can select colour and line width , etcetera etcetera. Okay ?

Uh  Okay. Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal. Uh you should explain  Uh with different colours and with different pen widths.


Okay and in the format menu you can select colour and line width , etcetera etcetera. Okay ?

Uh  Okay. Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal. Uh you should explain  Uh with different colours and with different pen widths.

And you should explain why you draw that particular animal.


Uh  Okay. Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal. Uh you should explain  Uh with different colours and with different pen widths.

And you should explain why you draw that particular animal.


And you should explain why you draw that particular animal.


Different pen widths , how do you do that ?


Uh it needs some uh some yellow uh  Oh format.


Uh it needs some uh some yellow uh  Oh format.

Can you use one blank sheet per drawing ? Or


Can you use one blank sheet per drawing ? Or


you can press the next button , which is uh  yeah. I'll show you.


How much time do we have to draw anyway ?


How much time do we have to draw anyway ?

Okay. Do I have to explain uh why I chose this uh this animal ?


Okay. Do I have to explain uh why I chose this uh this animal ?


Um  Okay I'll will give it an uh an eye.


Okay. Yeah pretty good. Uh could you press the next uh


Is this part of our a acquai or introduction to each other ?


Is this part of our a acquai or introduction to each other ?

Yeah sorry , introduction and get acquainted


Yeah sorry , introduction and get acquainted


I'm guessing a turtle. No.  I'm kidding.


Yeah not exactly legs but  More like fins


They kind of l look like mole legs. With sharp nails on.


Yeah that's a fr  friendly turtle I guess.


Right.  I don't know what the position is.  Does it have ears ?


I dunno. I it just came into my mind. So there's no particular reason


Uh yeah I dunno. They're my favourite pets.


Uh yeah I dunno. They're my favourite pets.

Uh I have colour already. Yeah I'm not so good at drawing with this kind of


Uh I have colour already. Yeah I'm not so good at drawing with this kind of


I don't know how to draw its face. But you get the idea.


I don't know how to draw its face. But you get the idea.

It's a cat. It's my favourite uh pet animal , 'cause they're cute , they're independent and cuddly , I dunno.


It's a cat. It's my favourite uh pet animal , 'cause they're cute , they're independent and cuddly , I dunno.


we have a financial aspect to this project.  Um we can sell them at twenty five Euros. Uh the aim is to reach  uh uh to sell as much as fifty million Euros. Uh that's quite a big amount of money. And the production cost should be the half of the selling price. Okay


What uh what uh do you want to discuss ?


we each have a specific task , as I saw in my mail. I didn't know if you received the same mail.


Okay so the um  uh  this industrati Industrial Designer should produce a working design. Am I correct ?


Okay so the um  uh  this industrati Industrial Designer should produce a working design. Am I correct ?

Okay. Uh the User Interface Designer should specify the technical functions. Right ? Yeah ?


Okay. Uh the User Interface Designer should specify the technical functions. Right ? Yeah ?

And the Marketing uh Expert should come up with user requirements.


And the Marketing uh Expert should come up with user requirements.

Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or


And the Marketing uh Expert should come up with user requirements.

Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or

Well I started making an overview for myself , um what I had to do , 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have a s specific task to perform or whatever.


Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or

Well I started making an overview for myself , um what I had to do , 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have a s specific task to perform or whatever.


Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or

Well I started making an overview for myself , um what I had to do , 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have a s specific task to perform or whatever.

So I had to uh ,  I dunno , make an overview for myself about what I have to do ,


Well I started making an overview for myself , um what I had to do , 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have a s specific task to perform or whatever.

So I had to uh ,  I dunno , make an overview for myself about what I have to do ,


So I had to uh ,  I dunno , make an overview for myself about what I have to do ,

and kind of let it work in to get ideas about well how I have to fill it.


So I had to uh ,  I dunno , make an overview for myself about what I have to do ,

and kind of let it work in to get ideas about well how I have to fill it.

Mm-hmm. And do you have any ideas about the product uh so far ?


and kind of let it work in to get ideas about well how I have to fill it.

Mm-hmm. And do you have any ideas about the product uh so far ?

Well I started I started with the first phase , I think was the functional.


Mm-hmm. And do you have any ideas about the product uh so far ?

Well I started I started with the first phase , I think was the functional.

And uh let's see I had to focus on the working design , which you said.


Well I started I started with the first phase , I think was the functional.

And uh let's see I had to focus on the working design , which you said.


And uh let's see I had to focus on the working design , which you said.

How does the apparatus work ? And well I basically had two points. Uh  according to the coffee uh machine example , I have batteries to supply energy ,


How does the apparatus work ? And well I basically had two points. Uh  according to the coffee uh machine example , I have batteries to supply energy ,


How does the apparatus work ? And well I basically had two points. Uh  according to the coffee uh machine example , I have batteries to supply energy ,

and we ye use button presses to activate or deactivate certain functions on the T_V_.


and we ye use button presses to activate or deactivate certain functions on the T_V_.


and we ye use button presses to activate or deactivate certain functions on the T_V_.

Yeah I got another point. It uses infrared light to communicate the signal to the T_V_ apparatus or stereo.


Yeah I got another point. It uses infrared light to communicate the signal to the T_V_ apparatus or stereo.


Uh it's uh some buttons for for the on off function. You d you already told that. And for the changing up to the  to all the channels and changing the volume. That are the the basic options for a remote control.


Uh it's uh some buttons for for the on off function. You d you already told that. And for the changing up to the  to all the channels and changing the volume. That are the the basic options for a remote control.

Yeah. Yeah I kept it global 'cause   that it activates or deactivates specific functions ,


Uh it's uh some buttons for for the on off function. You d you already told that. And for the changing up to the  to all the channels and changing the volume. That are the the basic options for a remote control.

Yeah. Yeah I kept it global 'cause   that it activates or deactivates specific functions ,

'cause I wasn't thinking yet about that. I mean , you wanna ch ch flip the channel


Yeah. Yeah I kept it global 'cause   that it activates or deactivates specific functions ,

'cause I wasn't thinking yet about that. I mean , you wanna ch ch flip the channel


'cause I wasn't thinking yet about that. I mean , you wanna ch ch flip the channel


Uh and what did the Marketing Expert do ?


Uh and what did the Marketing Expert do ?

Uh well from a marketing uh  perspective , um well the function des design phase uh consists out of the user requirements.


Uh and what did the Marketing Expert do ?

Uh well from a marketing uh  perspective , um well the function des design phase uh consists out of the user requirements.

Um what needs and desires are to be fulfilled ? So there are a few means to reach that um by by doing research  uh to see what existing products are there out in the market.


Uh well from a marketing uh  perspective , um well the function des design phase uh consists out of the user requirements.

Um what needs and desires are to be fulfilled ? So there are a few means to reach that um by by doing research  uh to see what existing products are there out in the market.


Um what needs and desires are to be fulfilled ? So there are a few means to reach that um by by doing research  uh to see what existing products are there out in the market.


Um especially what are their shortcomings ? Are there any new functions uh which can be added to our product ?


Um especially what are their shortcomings ? Are there any new functions uh which can be added to our product ?

Um therefore we have to to do some internet search. For example for um well what kind of applications do current remote controls support , and what are f featur features of uh current and future televisions ?


Um therefore we have to to do some internet search. For example for um well what kind of applications do current remote controls support , and what are f featur features of uh current and future televisions ?

So we can see uh what needs to be supported. Um  and we can interview current users and future users. What w what would they like to see uh on a new remote control ? Um especially for future users ,


So we can see uh what needs to be supported. Um  and we can interview current users and future users. What w what would they like to see uh on a new remote control ? Um especially for future users ,

uh I'm thinking of early adopters , because they they use new technology first ,


uh I'm thinking of early adopters , because they they use new technology first ,

and they play with a lot of tools and stuff so maybe they have some good ideas to uh to add.


uh I'm thinking of early adopters , because they they use new technology first ,

and they play with a lot of tools and stuff so maybe they have some good ideas to uh to add.

Okay. And you can get that information ?


and they play with a lot of tools and stuff so maybe they have some good ideas to uh to add.

Okay. And you can get that information ?

I think I can get that information , yeah.


Okay. And you can get that information ?

I think I can get that information , yeah.


I think I can get that information , yeah.

Um but have you any idea so far as what uh the user requirements are ?


Um but have you any idea so far as what uh the user requirements are ?


Uh really easy to use buttons , not not uh very small buttons , but not the the also the big big buttons , but just normal buttons. It has to be a small unit. It has to be uh  yeah , you can take it with you uh everywhere in in your house. So it has n has not to be l yeah , gigantic uh machine.


Uh the distance uh from your television to your uh remote control has to be , uh yeah um yeah , quite a big distance.


Uh the distance uh from your television to your uh remote control has to be , uh yeah um yeah , quite a big distance.

Yeah. From the other end of the room or something ?


Yeah. From the other end of the room or something ?


Yeah. From the other end of the room or something ?

Okay um  Well I don't think I have anything more to add at the moment. Um I think the best is to go to work.


Okay um  Well I don't think I have anything more to add at the moment. Um I think the best is to go to work.


Yeah. I think we can go ahead with what we have. I will summarise the things we discussed and put it in the project folder. Uh the use of the Industrial Designer can work on the working design , etcetera etcetera. And it seems you get more information by email. So


Are you going to put the the notes on the


Okay  um anything more you want to add to the discussion ?


Okay  um anything more you want to add to the discussion ?

Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh session ?


Okay  um anything more you want to add to the discussion ?

Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh session ?

Yeah. Do we only have to to do uh phase one , the functional design uh ?


Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh session ?

Yeah. Do we only have to to do uh phase one , the functional design uh ?


Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh session ?

Yeah. Do we only have to to do uh phase one , the functional design uh ?

After that we are going to the conceptual uh


Yeah. Do we only have to to do uh phase one , the functional design uh ?

After that we are going to the conceptual uh


After that we are going to the conceptual uh


we have meeting , individual work , meeting. And at the end of the day we have a final meeting. And then I have to prepare  uh I have to defend our design ,


I am gonna work on the conceptual design already 'cause yeah it's fairly important to know what kind of components we want to put in.


I am gonna work on the conceptual design already 'cause yeah it's fairly important to know what kind of components we want to put in.

Yeah ? If you can mix it it's okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah.


I am gonna work on the conceptual design already 'cause yeah it's fairly important to know what kind of components we want to put in.

Yeah ? If you can mix it it's okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Do we  I mean , is it gonna be a multimedia control centre ? Do we want to be able to use the video recorder with it ?


Yeah ? If you can mix it it's okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Do we  I mean , is it gonna be a multimedia control centre ? Do we want to be able to use the video recorder with it ?


Do we  I mean , is it gonna be a multimedia control centre ? Do we want to be able to use the video recorder with it ?


Well I think that is the user requirements part.


Well I think that is the user requirements part.

As to what they want. Uh do they want all those functions on that small


As to what they want. Uh do they want all those functions on that small


As to what they want. Uh do they want all those functions on that small

But but we need good communication about this stuff ,


But but we need good communication about this stuff ,


But but we need good communication about this stuff ,

'cause I have to f put the components into the design.


'cause I have to f put the components into the design.


So if I don't know what components to put in , it's kind of hard.


Yeah. I I think we have first to start with the basic functions and we can uh expand them.


Yeah. I I think we have first to start with the basic functions and we can uh expand them.

well like l li like some like some some remotes who are out there , which I know , there's one button which is very easy to switch between devices.


well like l li like some like some some remotes who are out there , which I know , there's one button which is very easy to switch between devices.


and then the same buttons control your video.


and then the same buttons control your video.

And another function I'll think of switch to your media centre , because that's getting very popular.


And another function I'll think of switch to your media centre , because that's getting very popular.


And another function I'll think of switch to your media centre , because that's getting very popular.

And then use your Windows media centre  under your T_V_ with the same remote control. So with the switch , one single switch


And then use your Windows media centre  under your T_V_ with the same remote control. So with the switch , one single switch


Yeah I I know what you mean , but you'll ne need several other buttons for a video player.


Yeah I I know what you mean , but you'll ne need several other buttons for a video player.

You need a play and a forw fast forward and a stop function.


You need a play and a forw fast forward and a stop function.


And and for a t uh teletext you need additional buttons as well ,


so I kind of need to know what we uh need.


Whatever , I'll just put my ideas in uh in here


Whatever , I'll just put my ideas in uh in here

and then we can discuss it with the next uh meeting.


and then we can discuss it with the next uh meeting.


We could just start with the assumption that's only for T_V_ and video. And um reserve the possibility to add other features.


and you can always extend that so make sure it's extendible. Yeah.


and you can always extend that so make sure it's extendible. Yeah.

Yeah it it has yeah it has to be user-friendly.


Yeah it it has yeah it has to be user-friendly.


Th the least amount of functions possible


Th the least amount of functions possible

so it's easier to get to know how it works etcetera.


so it's easier to get to know how it works etcetera.


Yeah ? Okay and uh I'll see you again uh when the computer tells us to.


All set ? Okay. Cool. Right. So um basically I'm just gonna go over real quickly um some news I've just got from the board on how we're supposed to do with this um  remote control. And then I'm gonna turn over to you guys to make brief presentations um on what you've found and then we'll have a bit of discussion. So basically uh what I've just found out from the board I dunno if you guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only. So no  we're not doing D_V_D_ , we're not doing anything else ,

it's just gonna be a television remote.  Um it also needs to have the company colours included in it.


it's just gonna be a television remote.  Um it also needs to have the company colours included in it.

Um so that's red and black. And it has to have the slogan , case you guys forget the slogan it's , we put fashion in electronics. Um and no teletext. I'm not sure what teletext is but I'm assuming you guys do , so we don't wanna include that um in this particular design.  For reasons that I don't really know. There's  but it's the board so there you go. So basically um given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we'll discuss it later I mean 'cause it's television only we'll be able to change our uh  um well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote.  Anyway. So I'm gonna turn over to the Industrial Designer uh to go ahead and make a presentation on


Um so that's red and black. And it has to have the slogan , case you guys forget the slogan it's , we put fashion in electronics. Um and no teletext. I'm not sure what teletext is but I'm assuming you guys do , so we don't wanna include that um in this particular design.  For reasons that I don't really know. There's  but it's the board so there you go. So basically um given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we'll discuss it later I mean 'cause it's television only we'll be able to change our uh  um well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote.  Anyway. So I'm gonna turn over to the Industrial Designer uh to go ahead and make a presentation on


Yep. Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks like it's gonna come up. Yep. Cool.


Yep. Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks like it's gonna come up. Yep. Cool.

Okay. Right. That's page one of my presentation.


Yep. Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks like it's gonna come up. Yep. Cool.

Okay. Right. That's page one of my presentation.

Very nice. For your first PowerPoint it's lovely.


Okay. Right. That's page one of my presentation.

Very nice. For your first PowerPoint it's lovely.

So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system , so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power , something along those lines , there's an integrated circuit , which is the microchip , um and that actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip , basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings , um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like , and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer , just think of those lawsuits , that'd be really bad.


Very nice. For your first PowerPoint it's lovely.

So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system , so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power , something along those lines , there's an integrated circuit , which is the microchip , um and that actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip , basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings , um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like , and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer , just think of those lawsuits , that'd be really bad.


Very nice. For your first PowerPoint it's lovely.

So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system , so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power , something along those lines , there's an integrated circuit , which is the microchip , um and that actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip , basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings , um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like , and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer , just think of those lawsuits , that'd be really bad.

Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction. Um , components. Just some ideas that I had , um , energy source , it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup. Um the user interface , I was  since we can't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic.


So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system , so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power , something along those lines , there's an integrated circuit , which is the microchip , um and that actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip , basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings , um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like , and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer , just think of those lawsuits , that'd be really bad.

Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction. Um , components. Just some ideas that I had , um , energy source , it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup. Um the user interface , I was  since we can't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic.


Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction. Um , components. Just some ideas that I had , um , energy source , it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup. Um the user interface , I was  since we can't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic.

The chip , um , silicon based chip I don't really see any way around that , we can't really be different in that respect. Um , the sender well I'm thinking infrared 'cause it is the industry standard , multi channel , that's a word I made up , I don't really know what it means.


The chip , um , silicon based chip I don't really see any way around that , we can't really be different in that respect. Um , the sender well I'm thinking infrared 'cause it is the industry standard , multi channel , that's a word I made up , I don't really know what it means.

Uh PAL and N_T_S_C_ compatible and uh probably a two hundred foot range.


Uh PAL and N_T_S_C_ compatible and uh probably a two hundred foot range.

Uh and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices. Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s. Um personal preferences , I really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal , um , the company simply can't afford this kinds of lawsuits


Uh and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices. Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s. Um personal preferences , I really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal , um , the company simply can't afford this kinds of lawsuits

which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value ,


Uh and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices. Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s. Um personal preferences , I really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal , um , the company simply can't afford this kinds of lawsuits

which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value ,

Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers , or mo modern types of plastics


which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value ,

Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers , or mo modern types of plastics


which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value ,

Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers , or mo modern types of plastics

that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white  like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other ones they use a a pretty nice ,


Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers , or mo modern types of plastics

that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white  like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other ones they use a a pretty nice ,


that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white  like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other ones they use a a pretty nice ,


that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white  like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other ones they use a a pretty nice ,

you can do i is there some kind of nice colo der quality plastic that we can work with ?


you can do i is there some kind of nice colo der quality plastic that we can work with ?

Yeah that shouldn't be a problem. Um for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that's perfectly possible for us to do.


Yeah that shouldn't be a problem. Um for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that's perfectly possible for us to do.


Great. Thank you very much Nathan.  Um if next we can have the um User Interface Developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that'd be great as well.


Great. Thank you very much Nathan.  Um if next we can have the um User Interface Developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that'd be great as well.

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Great. Thank you very much Nathan.  Um if next we can have the um User Interface Developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that'd be great as well.

S plug yourself in here. Mm.  Um hit function F_ eight real quickly , hold down  Mm.

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S plug yourself in here. Mm.  Um hit function F_ eight real quickly , hold down  Mm.

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Is it plugged in well ? There it goes. Computer adjusting.


Well so. Here we have a uh my technical functions design presentation. Um so a few of the requirements we need here. Uh we n basically need to operate an electronic device , it needs to be universal um and possibly uh operate several different types of devices although we now uh find that uh that that's no problem.


Well so. Here we have a uh my technical functions design presentation. Um so a few of the requirements we need here. Uh we n basically need to operate an electronic device , it needs to be universal um and possibly uh operate several different types of devices although we now uh find that uh that that's no problem.

Yeah sorry I couldn't get that g to use before.


Well so. Here we have a uh my technical functions design presentation. Um so a few of the requirements we need here. Uh we n basically need to operate an electronic device , it needs to be universal um and possibly uh operate several different types of devices although we now uh find that uh that that's no problem.

Yeah sorry I couldn't get that g to use before.

Um so some of my findings. Um basically wanna send messages uh to a television set. Um that would be any number of different things uh such as switch on the television , uh switch to the next channel , that sort of thing , I think we're all quite uh quite uh intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does. Um  now some of the other things I found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can't quite see my red there very well


Yeah sorry I couldn't get that g to use before.

Um so some of my findings. Um basically wanna send messages uh to a television set. Um that would be any number of different things uh such as switch on the television , uh switch to the next channel , that sort of thing , I think we're all quite uh quite uh intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does. Um  now some of the other things I found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can't quite see my red there very well


Um so some of my findings. Um basically wanna send messages uh to a television set. Um that would be any number of different things uh such as switch on the television , uh switch to the next channel , that sort of thing , I think we're all quite uh quite uh intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does. Um  now some of the other things I found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can't quite see my red there very well

but uh this remote control has many functions um so it can do a lot of things but it uh it is quite complicated


but uh this remote control has many functions um so it can do a lot of things but it uh it is quite complicated


but uh this remote control has many functions um so it can do a lot of things but it uh it is quite complicated

and most users will find it uh find that they won't use most of the functions because they don't know how to use them and don't wanna take the time to learn how to do it. As you also notice it's quite a boring design. Um. Another remote control , slightly different , it's a simpler remote control uh many less buttons but uh has many fewer functions , um m much easier for the user to manipulate and use. Um it also has a bit of a cheap look and it's also quite boring. So


and most users will find it uh find that they won't use most of the functions because they don't know how to use them and don't wanna take the time to learn how to do it. As you also notice it's quite a boring design. Um. Another remote control , slightly different , it's a simpler remote control uh many less buttons but uh has many fewer functions , um m much easier for the user to manipulate and use. Um it also has a bit of a cheap look and it's also quite boring. So


and most users will find it uh find that they won't use most of the functions because they don't know how to use them and don't wanna take the time to learn how to do it. As you also notice it's quite a boring design. Um. Another remote control , slightly different , it's a simpler remote control uh many less buttons but uh has many fewer functions , um m much easier for the user to manipulate and use. Um it also has a bit of a cheap look and it's also quite boring. So

Revolutionise the idea of uh a remote control. Um so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display uh for the user to to work with. And I was gonna add another uh slide here but I didn't quite have time there.


Revolutionise the idea of uh a remote control. Um so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display uh for the user to to work with. And I was gonna add another uh slide here but I didn't quite have time there.


Revolutionise the idea of uh a remote control. Um so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display uh for the user to to work with. And I was gonna add another uh slide here but I didn't quite have time there.

Um. Just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like uh having multiple face but it's uh .


Um. Just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like uh having multiple face but it's uh .


Oh that would be perfect. Thank you. Slide show up and running.


Oh that would be perfect. Thank you. Slide show up and running.

Or not. Uh. Oh there we go. Perfect. Okay. So this is me. Um basically I was looking through some marketing reports that we've got and we had a usability test where we were actually sort  like watching a hundred people  use T_V_ remotes and see what it is that they're using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they don't about their general T_V_ remote control practices. Um pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time , everybody's used to using changing the channel , turning it on , using the volume , m the majority of the time that's all that's going on , the other functions happen , for some people they're important , but the primary uses are really really basic. Um and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public's use , they're not using a lot of it , they don't need it , they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they don't know what to do with.  And um we also found out that uh fifty percent of our people , their  the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it. And then they can't find it in the room. So I think what we were talking about with a pager or something , will really come into play with a lot of these people.  Um there's also a survey about what they liked about remotes ,


Oh that would be perfect. Thank you. Slide show up and running.

Or not. Uh. Oh there we go. Perfect. Okay. So this is me. Um basically I was looking through some marketing reports that we've got and we had a usability test where we were actually sort  like watching a hundred people  use T_V_ remotes and see what it is that they're using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they don't about their general T_V_ remote control practices. Um pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time , everybody's used to using changing the channel , turning it on , using the volume , m the majority of the time that's all that's going on , the other functions happen , for some people they're important , but the primary uses are really really basic. Um and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public's use , they're not using a lot of it , they don't need it , they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they don't know what to do with.  And um we also found out that uh fifty percent of our people , their  the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it. And then they can't find it in the room. So I think what we were talking about with a pager or something , will really come into play with a lot of these people.  Um there's also a survey about what they liked about remotes ,

and pretty much they all think they're hideous and not very useful , and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options. I don't know if that's something we're ready to look into technically , that's up to the design people , but it is s something worth thinking about , especially since the younger demographic's obviously the one that's gonna keep growing , so if that's the direction we're headed in it's something to think about. Um but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice , which are the standards.  So it's a good start for us.


Or not. Uh. Oh there we go. Perfect. Okay. So this is me. Um basically I was looking through some marketing reports that we've got and we had a usability test where we were actually sort  like watching a hundred people  use T_V_ remotes and see what it is that they're using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they don't about their general T_V_ remote control practices. Um pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time , everybody's used to using changing the channel , turning it on , using the volume , m the majority of the time that's all that's going on , the other functions happen , for some people they're important , but the primary uses are really really basic. Um and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public's use , they're not using a lot of it , they don't need it , they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they don't know what to do with.  And um we also found out that uh fifty percent of our people , their  the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it. And then they can't find it in the room. So I think what we were talking about with a pager or something , will really come into play with a lot of these people.  Um there's also a survey about what they liked about remotes ,

and pretty much they all think they're hideous and not very useful , and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options. I don't know if that's something we're ready to look into technically , that's up to the design people , but it is s something worth thinking about , especially since the younger demographic's obviously the one that's gonna keep growing , so if that's the direction we're headed in it's something to think about. Um but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice , which are the standards.  So it's a good start for us.

That's great. Thank you Sarah. Right. So um


and pretty much they all think they're hideous and not very useful , and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options. I don't know if that's something we're ready to look into technically , that's up to the design people , but it is s something worth thinking about , especially since the younger demographic's obviously the one that's gonna keep growing , so if that's the direction we're headed in it's something to think about. Um but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice , which are the standards.  So it's a good start for us.

That's great. Thank you Sarah. Right. So um


That's great. Thank you Sarah. Right. So um


I'll finish up with just a bit of discussion plan on for the next phase.


I'll finish up with just a bit of discussion plan on for the next phase.

Right so I think we've covered most of these important questions through this um  through you guys's presentations um  we've got uh y the Industrial Designer suggests uh or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic.  Um Sarah , she's recommended that we go for simpler functions , so fewer functions um but we need to decide who are we selling this to , you s your stats suggested that seventy five percent of people under thirty five wanted , thought about voice control ,


Right so I think we've covered most of these important questions through this um  through you guys's presentations um  we've got uh y the Industrial Designer suggests uh or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic.  Um Sarah , she's recommended that we go for simpler functions , so fewer functions um but we need to decide who are we selling this to , you s your stats suggested that seventy five percent of people under thirty five wanted , thought about voice control ,

um so do we wanna go for that , or do we want to go for an older demographic , and my thought is  um  we've got w if we're gonna go for a sleek look I mean we are putting the fashion in electronics  um.


Right so I think we've covered most of these important questions through this um  through you guys's presentations um  we've got uh y the Industrial Designer suggests uh or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic.  Um Sarah , she's recommended that we go for simpler functions , so fewer functions um but we need to decide who are we selling this to , you s your stats suggested that seventy five percent of people under thirty five wanted , thought about voice control ,

um so do we wanna go for that , or do we want to go for an older demographic , and my thought is  um  we've got w if we're gonna go for a sleek look I mean we are putting the fashion in electronics  um.

We're not catering to the pensioners of the world I don't think so.


um so do we wanna go for that , or do we want to go for an older demographic , and my thought is  um  we've got w if we're gonna go for a sleek look I mean we are putting the fashion in electronics  um.

We're not catering to the pensioners of the world I don't think so.

Yes. So maybe this  we should look into this younger demographic. Um. So


We're not catering to the pensioners of the world I don't think so.

Yes. So maybe this  we should look into this younger demographic. Um. So

uh we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster um think we're constrained to plastics very well , we've got this idea , Ron was saying we need to think about uh revolutionising the way it's looking um ,


Yes. So maybe this  we should look into this younger demographic. Um. So

uh we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster um think we're constrained to plastics very well , we've got this idea , Ron was saying we need to think about uh revolutionising the way it's looking um ,


uh we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster um think we're constrained to plastics very well , we've got this idea , Ron was saying we need to think about uh revolutionising the way it's looking um ,

which might be easier given that we're going for simpler function and that we're only going for a telly.


which might be easier given that we're going for simpler function and that we're only going for a telly.

Um so um. How  th this voice operation thing is  I think is a good idea um assuming that it's doable , um at least for the basic controls , maybe we can balance it that way , you know we can see.


Um so um. How  th this voice operation thing is  I think is a good idea um assuming that it's doable , um at least for the basic controls , maybe we can balance it that way , you know we can see.


Um so um. How  th this voice operation thing is  I think is a good idea um assuming that it's doable , um at least for the basic controls , maybe we can balance it that way , you know we can see.

Okay you can't say record alias tonight at seven P_M_


Okay you can't say record alias tonight at seven P_M_

but we might be able to say um  volume up.


Okay you can't say record alias tonight at seven P_M_

but we might be able to say um  volume up.

Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology.


but we might be able to say um  volume up.

Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology.


Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology.


Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology.

With a simple command like locate. And then it could start to beep


With a simple command like locate. And then it could start to beep


Is that only gonna be within our two hundred foot range then ?


Is that only gonna be within our two hundred foot range then ?

The difficulty wh would be in um I think like i you couldn't speak into the remote that you're trying to find. 'Kay you have something that picks up a voice from far away


The difficulty wh would be in um I think like i you couldn't speak into the remote that you're trying to find. 'Kay you have something that picks up a voice from far away


The difficulty wh would be in um I think like i you couldn't speak into the remote that you're trying to find. 'Kay you have something that picks up a voice from far away

If it's hidden under the couch  but then again you have this wee  this wee thing you know that's just a little chip or whatever that has the page button , maybe that could be voice activated too.


If it's hidden under the couch  but then again you have this wee  this wee thing you know that's just a little chip or whatever that has the page button , maybe that could be voice activated too.

A little sticky pad to stick on top of your uh television.


If it's hidden under the couch  but then again you have this wee  this wee thing you know that's just a little chip or whatever that has the page button , maybe that could be voice activated too.

A little sticky pad to stick on top of your uh television.

And you just say something to  into that


A little sticky pad to stick on top of your uh television.

And you just say something to  into that


And you just say something to  into that


Or an isolated magnet or something like , or you know something that wouldn't interfere I don't know that'd be the technical thing


Or an isolated magnet or something like , or you know something that wouldn't interfere I don't know that'd be the technical thing

but  yeah I like that , I like that , the voice recognition for the paging system.


Or an isolated magnet or something like , or you know something that wouldn't interfere I don't know that'd be the technical thing

but  yeah I like that , I like that , the voice recognition for the paging system.

The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market and the older market.


but  yeah I like that , I like that , the voice recognition for the paging system.

The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market and the older market.


but  yeah I like that , I like that , the voice recognition for the paging system.

The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market and the older market.

And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market might might k


The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market and the older market.

And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market might might k


And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market might might k


And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market might might k

exactly and might consider the older market could use the simpler design with the traditional buttons and what not.


exactly and might consider the older market could use the simpler design with the traditional buttons and what not.


Are we still thinking about this screen  sorry.


Are we still thinking about this screen  sorry.

Go ahead. The uh if we're gonna do this touch pad screen thing , it would be still , do we know if that's an option technically right now to that ?


Go ahead. The uh if we're gonna do this touch pad screen thing , it would be still , do we know if that's an option technically right now to that ?

'S definitely an option technically. I've looked into uh costs of uh touch screen methods and what not ,


'S definitely an option technically. I've looked into uh costs of uh touch screen methods and what not ,

they seem to be uh you know almost as cheap as a button method at this point.


they seem to be uh you know almost as cheap as a button method at this point.


they seem to be uh you know almost as cheap as a button method at this point.

'Cause it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know four or five basic functions , you can have


'Cause it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know four or five basic functions , you can have


'Cause it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know four or five basic functions , you can have

menu options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition , settings , things that you're not gonna use every day and that a lot of people aren't gonna use but it is an option there for this hi-tech market that sort of re is the sleek thing we're going for.


menu options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition , settings , things that you're not gonna use every day and that a lot of people aren't gonna use but it is an option there for this hi-tech market that sort of re is the sleek thing we're going for.

Gotta wonder though , if we're adding so much technology to this one remote , are we still gonna be able to meet out twelve pou our twelve fifty Euro you know goal for selling these things.


Gotta wonder though , if we're adding so much technology to this one remote , are we still gonna be able to meet out twelve pou our twelve fifty Euro you know goal for selling these things.


It seems like , we're not gonna be able to handle all these functions with just one microchip.


It seems like , we're not gonna be able to handle all these functions with just one microchip.

The microchip is probably the most expensive part of the the whole mechanism.


The microchip is probably the most expensive part of the the whole mechanism.


Absolutely. Mm 'kay um well yeah I guess we'll cross that bridge um in a la slightly later stages of development um but yeah I know , that's perfectly viable question. Mm 'kay um so I'm seeing that we're gonna just basically focus on this young demographic group , aim it at them , but then in a sense that its bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we'll make a sleek simple functioned um uh remote control.


Absolutely. Mm 'kay um well yeah I guess we'll cross that bridge um in a la slightly later stages of development um but yeah I know , that's perfectly viable question. Mm 'kay um so I'm seeing that we're gonna just basically focus on this young demographic group , aim it at them , but then in a sense that its bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we'll make a sleek simple functioned um uh remote control.

Um I think this voice recognition thing is a we've got a market for it uh I don't think there's too many ,


Um I think this voice recognition thing is a we've got a market for it uh I don't think there's too many ,

we'd more or less be cornering the market on it as well , we don't have many um.


we'd more or less be cornering the market on it as well , we don't have many um.

I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm.  Right um we don't have many people  or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function , a touch screen , and face plates. Um. The thing with  I see  would there not be a  we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen ?


we'd more or less be cornering the market on it as well , we don't have many um.

I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm.  Right um we don't have many people  or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function , a touch screen , and face plates. Um. The thing with  I see  would there not be a  we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen ?

Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct ,


I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm.  Right um we don't have many people  or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function , a touch screen , and face plates. Um. The thing with  I see  would there not be a  we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen ?

Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct ,


I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm.  Right um we don't have many people  or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function , a touch screen , and face plates. Um. The thing with  I see  would there not be a  we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen ?

Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct ,

I think if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions are interchangeable.


Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct ,

I think if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions are interchangeable.


I think if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions are interchangeable.


I think if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions are interchangeable.

We could have the casing , the the face plates.


We could have the casing , the the face plates.


We could have the casing , the the face plates.

Back to the uh the cost  the material.  We have to ask whether we're going to include a certain number of face plates with the package ? That's something I w for  say we're including three or four face plates , it's gonna drive the cost up.