Yes. There are there are also remote controls who have uh a little shape underneath where you can put your fingers in ,


Yes. There are there are also remote controls who have uh a little shape underneath where you can put your fingers in ,

so you can get a really good grip on it. So you you don't have to um attain much pressure to it. It's it's a lot easier.


so you can get a really good grip on it. So you you don't have to um attain much pressure to it. It's it's a lot easier.


But I'll I'll go into that deeper in my presentation.


But I'll I'll go into that deeper in my presentation.

Oh and um to add on um Ruud's information , in this um interface we can have uh high-tech with the voice recognition and uh , well , the the fancy colours and uh and so on , and still have the ease of use , because we have an easy interface. And all the other remote controls are high-tech in buttons and uh and so on.


Oh and um to add on um Ruud's information , in this um interface we can have uh high-tech with the voice recognition and uh , well , the the fancy colours and uh and so on , and still have the ease of use , because we have an easy interface. And all the other remote controls are high-tech in buttons and uh and so on.

Yeah. Way too much I think for our goal ,


Yeah. Way too much I think for our goal ,

So if you have the voice recognition , you can  you can programme like thirty uh um thirty c uh controls on it.


So if you have the voice recognition , you can  you can programme like thirty uh um thirty c uh controls on it.


because there are are some possibilities and some impossibilities. Um I had a talk with uh our manufacturing uh division , and uh we had a talk about all the different components um who are in this design. Uh these are the things we've looked at. And of course I used the web to uh find my information. About the casing , we have three different casing possibilities. We have the uncurved or flat case. Uh that's the most common uh remote con control form uh we're used to is just a  it ju it's just a box. I'm sorry I I don't have any pictures of uh of this thing.  We have uh a curved one. It's uh curved in two dimensions. You have to imagine it's a bit like a wave form. So it's uh a little more advanced in its in its shape.


because there are are some possibilities and some impossibilities. Um I had a talk with uh our manufacturing uh division , and uh we had a talk about all the different components um who are in this design. Uh these are the things we've looked at. And of course I used the web to uh find my information. About the casing , we have three different casing possibilities. We have the uncurved or flat case. Uh that's the most common uh remote con control form uh we're used to is just a  it ju it's just a box. I'm sorry I I don't have any pictures of uh of this thing.  We have uh a curved one. It's uh curved in two dimensions. You have to imagine it's a bit like a wave form. So it's uh a little more advanced in its in its shape.

Uh and we have an even more advanced uh shape , which is curved in three dimension. I c I think you can compare it a little bit with the uh big grey image uh you had in your presentation. The the big remote control , something like that.


Uh and we have an even more advanced uh shape , which is curved in three dimension. I c I think you can compare it a little bit with the uh big grey image uh you had in your presentation. The the big remote control , something like that.

But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic , which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice , but you can give it any colour , uh which is the same for rubber , but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well , um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases , there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source  source. Which brings me to the different energy sources.  Um well , we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh  remote controls.


Uh and we have an even more advanced uh shape , which is curved in three dimension. I c I think you can compare it a little bit with the uh big grey image uh you had in your presentation. The the big remote control , something like that.

But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic , which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice , but you can give it any colour , uh which is the same for rubber , but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well , um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases , there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source  source. Which brings me to the different energy sources.  Um well , we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh  remote controls.

You really have to imagine like  winding up your  uh


But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic , which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice , but you can give it any colour , uh which is the same for rubber , but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well , um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases , there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source  source. Which brings me to the different energy sources.  Um well , we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh  remote controls.

You really have to imagine like  winding up your  uh


But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic , which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice , but you can give it any colour , uh which is the same for rubber , but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well , um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases , there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source  source. Which brings me to the different energy sources.  Um well , we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh  remote controls.

You really have to imagine like  winding up your  uh

Well , it would be very new to the market ,


You really have to imagine like  winding up your  uh

Well , it would be very new to the market ,


Well , it would be very new to the market ,


but it's a kind of a retro uh style , I think.


but it's a kind of a retro uh style , I think.

this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or when you're  you you have to um make some kind of energy  kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall , whatever you wish.


this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or when you're  you you have to um make some kind of energy  kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall , whatever you wish.


this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or when you're  you you have to um make some kind of energy  kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall , whatever you wish.

It have  it it has to move , that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing.


this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or when you're  you you have to um make some kind of energy  kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall , whatever you wish.

It have  it it has to move , that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing.

I think um , if if I can hook on to that , um the kinetic thing is very funny.


It have  it it has to move , that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing.

I think um , if if I can hook on to that , um the kinetic thing is very funny.


It have  it it has to move , that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing.

I think um , if if I can hook on to that , um the kinetic thing is very funny.

I mean solar is  of course it's nice , but it's , well , your uh your calculator has a solar panel.


I think um , if if I can hook on to that , um the kinetic thing is very funny.

I mean solar is  of course it's nice , but it's , well , your uh your calculator has a solar panel.


I mean solar is  of course it's nice , but it's , well , your uh your calculator has a solar panel.


I mean solar is  of course it's nice , but it's , well , your uh your calculator has a solar panel.

But if you're watching a movie , how many times uh you take the the remote control and and


But if you're watching a movie , how many times uh you take the the remote control and and


But if you're watching a movie , how many times uh you take the the remote control and and

if uh if you have a watch , you have the kinetic uh idea in a watch also.


if uh if you have a watch , you have the kinetic uh idea in a watch also.


and uh  but uh you  you're sitting on a couch.


and uh  but uh you  you're sitting on a couch.

But you know you know from your own watch  your watch uses uh a minimal con it consumes a minimal amount of energy.  the the shaking of your body , which is almost uh every activity makes your uh body shake , uh it charges it. But uh the problem here is that it it supplies a a very little amount of kinetic energy. So I think uh you have a problem when you're watching a movie and uh you haven't moved the remote uh i remote control in a  in an amount of time , and you want t to switch uh the channel or something ,


and uh  but uh you  you're sitting on a couch.

But you know you know from your own watch  your watch uses uh a minimal con it consumes a minimal amount of energy.  the the shaking of your body , which is almost uh every activity makes your uh body shake , uh it charges it. But uh the problem here is that it it supplies a a very little amount of kinetic energy. So I think uh you have a problem when you're watching a movie and uh you haven't moved the remote uh i remote control in a  in an amount of time , and you want t to switch uh the channel or something ,

well , m it might not work. So that's something you have to keep in mind.


But you know you know from your own watch  your watch uses uh a minimal con it consumes a minimal amount of energy.  the the shaking of your body , which is almost uh every activity makes your uh body shake , uh it charges it. But uh the problem here is that it it supplies a a very little amount of kinetic energy. So I think uh you have a problem when you're watching a movie and uh you haven't moved the remote uh i remote control in a  in an amount of time , and you want t to switch uh the channel or something ,

well , m it might not work. So that's something you have to keep in mind.


well , m it might not work. So that's something you have to keep in mind.

So , but maybe  maybe there's a possibility com to combine it with m uh traditional batteries , so we can save on the batteries


So , but maybe  maybe there's a possibility com to combine it with m uh traditional batteries , so we can save on the batteries

and um when there's enough kinet kinetic energy , use the kinetic energy , and otherwise use the batteries.


So , but maybe  maybe there's a possibility com to combine it with m uh traditional batteries , so we can save on the batteries

and um when there's enough kinet kinetic energy , use the kinetic energy , and otherwise use the batteries.

Okay , because I guess the voice recognition feature u consumes quite a f uh a lot of power.


and um when there's enough kinet kinetic energy , use the kinetic energy , and otherwise use the batteries.

Okay , because I guess the voice recognition feature u consumes quite a f uh a lot of power.


Okay , because I guess the voice recognition feature u consumes quite a f uh a lot of power.


And we of course have the traditional uh solar power , which is just uh uh uh uh uh a piece of material on the remote control which transfers light energy into electricity.  The user interface controls , um of course we have the push-buttons and uh we also have scroll-wheels. And these scroll-wheels can also be integrated with buttons. So it's just like a mouse. You can scroll 'em , you can also push it. Um  uh in the indicators we have the L_C_D_ displays , which means uh you can watch uh in a display w which channel you have chosen or something like that of the li amount of volume which is uh currently


And we of course have the traditional uh solar power , which is just uh uh uh uh uh a piece of material on the remote control which transfers light energy into electricity.  The user interface controls , um of course we have the push-buttons and uh we also have scroll-wheels. And these scroll-wheels can also be integrated with buttons. So it's just like a mouse. You can scroll 'em , you can also push it. Um  uh in the indicators we have the L_C_D_ displays , which means uh you can watch uh in a display w which channel you have chosen or something like that of the li amount of volume which is uh currently

uh and we also have double scroll-buttons , which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting , the the thing with the the round with the four


And we of course have the traditional uh solar power , which is just uh uh uh uh uh a piece of material on the remote control which transfers light energy into electricity.  The user interface controls , um of course we have the push-buttons and uh we also have scroll-wheels. And these scroll-wheels can also be integrated with buttons. So it's just like a mouse. You can scroll 'em , you can also push it. Um  uh in the indicators we have the L_C_D_ displays , which means uh you can watch uh in a display w which channel you have chosen or something like that of the li amount of volume which is uh currently

uh and we also have double scroll-buttons , which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting , the the thing with the the round with the four

Mm-hmm. Oh , we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round.


uh and we also have double scroll-buttons , which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting , the the thing with the the round with the four

Mm-hmm. Oh , we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round.


uh and we also have double scroll-buttons , which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting , the the thing with the the round with the four

Mm-hmm. Oh , we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round.

But I th I don't think uh the scroll-wheels  I had some  I had some information about it too.


Mm-hmm. Oh , we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round.

But I th I don't think uh the scroll-wheels  I had some  I had some information about it too.


But I th I don't think uh the scroll-wheels  I had some  I had some information about it too.

I don't think  there's any possibility for us to use scroll-wheels.


I don't think  there's any possibility for us to use scroll-wheels.

I d I can't see uh any uh scenario where you would use a scroll-wheel with a button on it.


I don't think  there's any possibility for us to use scroll-wheels.

I d I can't see uh any uh scenario where you would use a scroll-wheel with a button on it.

Well , mayb uh well , m me neither. Maybe when you integrate some functions.


I d I can't see uh any uh scenario where you would use a scroll-wheel with a button on it.

Well , mayb uh well , m me neither. Maybe when you integrate some functions.


Well , mayb uh well , m me neither. Maybe when you integrate some functions.

Um with uh maybe a channel selector. What about integrating a scroll-bar on this side ?


Um with uh maybe a channel selector. What about integrating a scroll-bar on this side ?


But Flores , think about a scenario where y where you would use the scroll-button for


But Flores , think about a scenario where y where you would use the scroll-button for

Well , it's it  well , i what he means is there's an  button integrated in the scroll-wheel.


Well , it's it  well , i what he means is there's an  button integrated in the scroll-wheel.

There's no scenario where you use uh the button in the scroll-wheel. You just use the wheel.


There's no scenario where you use uh the button in the scroll-wheel. You just use the wheel.


this is my volume button. And I can either on this side or this side um


this is my volume button. And I can either on this side or this side um

Okay. Yes. Well , okay. Well , that that that's one possibility , okay.


Okay. Yes. Well , okay. Well , that that that's one possibility , okay.

And and it makes it different from the traditional uh devices on this market. So I'm looking for a way to uh make it a little different than the traditional ones.


And and it makes it different from the traditional uh devices on this market. So I'm looking for a way to uh make it a little different than the traditional ones.


And and it makes it different from the traditional uh devices on this market. So I'm looking for a way to uh make it a little different than the traditional ones.

So maybe um  I guess that  that's something you two uh need to think about.


So maybe um  I guess that  that's something you two uh need to think about.

Uh Ruud , wha what do you thing about uh a scroll-bar ? Uh scroll-wheel.


Uh Ruud , wha what do you thing about uh a scroll-bar ? Uh scroll-wheel.


Uh Ruud , wha what do you thing about uh a scroll-bar ? Uh scroll-wheel.

it's obvious obviously new. So it might attract uh the young customers.


it's obvious obviously new. So it might attract uh the young customers.


it's obvious obviously new. So it might attract uh the young customers.

Hmm.  But it's done before , uh there are many other devices um like uh telephones and our uh radio , pocket radios. We use this.


Hmm.  But it's done before , uh there are many other devices um like uh telephones and our uh radio , pocket radios. We use this.

And  Well , it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now.


Hmm.  But it's done before , uh there are many other devices um like uh telephones and our uh radio , pocket radios. We use this.

And  Well , it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now.

Well , all the Sony telephones use it , for example , for volume.


And  Well , it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now.

Well , all the Sony telephones use it , for example , for volume.


And  Well , it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now.

Well , all the Sony telephones use it , for example , for volume.

Nokia has a  well , okay , it's not really a scroll-wheel , but on their side th the the volume button is on the side , because you gri grab it like this.


Well , all the Sony telephones use it , for example , for volume.

Nokia has a  well , okay , it's not really a scroll-wheel , but on their side th the the volume button is on the side , because you gri grab it like this.

Hmm. Yes , but it uses two separate buttons.


Nokia has a  well , okay , it's not really a scroll-wheel , but on their side th the the volume button is on the side , because you gri grab it like this.

Hmm. Yes , but it uses two separate buttons.

Yeah. I know , it's not really a scroll-wheel. No. Yeah.


Nokia has a  well , okay , it's not really a scroll-wheel , but on their side th the the volume button is on the side , because you gri grab it like this.

Hmm. Yes , but it uses two separate buttons.

Yeah. I know , it's not really a scroll-wheel. No. Yeah.

It doesn't use a  . Well. Uh something for uh Roo here.


Hmm. Yes , but it uses two separate buttons.

Yeah. I know , it's not really a scroll-wheel. No. Yeah.

It doesn't use a  . Well. Uh something for uh Roo here.


Yeah. I know , it's not really a scroll-wheel. No. Yeah.

It doesn't use a  . Well. Uh something for uh Roo here.

Yeah , I believe uh if you have uh what we've earlier said , um the grip uh places in in the remote control. You have your hand on one place on the remote control , so you have to place all the buttons in a range of your thumb.


It doesn't use a  . Well. Uh something for uh Roo here.

Yeah , I believe uh if you have uh what we've earlier said , um the grip uh places in in the remote control. You have your hand on one place on the remote control , so you have to place all the buttons in a range of your thumb.


Yeah , I believe uh if you have uh what we've earlier said , um the grip uh places in in the remote control. You have your hand on one place on the remote control , so you have to place all the buttons in a range of your thumb.

So in that case uh the volume button on the side uh of the remote control would be perfect.


So in that case uh the volume button on the side uh of the remote control would be perfect.


So in that case uh the volume button on the side uh of the remote control would be perfect.

Okay , um we have to know , if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case , um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels , because it's all curved.


Okay , um we have to know , if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case , um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels , because it's all curved.


Okay , um we have to know , if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case , um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels , because it's all curved.

There's  there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation.  About um the components , uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple , regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker , which is a little cryptic uh to me. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking about.


Okay , um we have to know , if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case , um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels , because it's all curved.

There's  there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation.  About um the components , uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple , regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker , which is a little cryptic uh to me. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking about.

Yeah yeah , you can um  I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word  you can programme words like uh v uh volume up. Of mute , let's say mute.


There's  there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation.  About um the components , uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple , regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker , which is a little cryptic uh to me. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking about.

Yeah yeah , you can um  I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word  you can programme words like uh v uh volume up. Of mute , let's say mute.


There's  there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation.  About um the components , uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple , regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker , which is a little cryptic uh to me. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking about.

Yeah yeah , you can um  I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word  you can programme words like uh v uh volume up. Of mute , let's say mute.

Um you programme it , you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it that that's really the mute function


Yeah yeah , you can um  I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word  you can programme words like uh v uh volume up. Of mute , let's say mute.

Um you programme it , you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it that that's really the mute function


Um you programme it , you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it that that's really the mute function


Um you programme it , you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it that that's really the mute function

and uh when you speak in the the remote control , it repeats uh your saying. that's the sample sensor. So So if you say mute , it says mute again ,


and uh when you speak in the the remote control , it repeats uh your saying. that's the sample sensor. So So if you say mute , it says mute again ,


and uh when you speak in the the remote control , it repeats uh your saying. that's the sample sensor. So So if you say mute , it says mute again ,

and then it's um  well , I believe it's uh


and then it's um  well , I believe it's uh


and then it's um  well , I believe it's uh

Yeah , and then uh he he repeats its action what  which he believes it is.


Yeah , and then uh he he repeats its action what  which he believes it is.


Yeah , and then uh he he repeats its action what  which he believes it is.

So you say mute , he repeats mute and you  makes a computer sound mute , and then goes to the mute function.


So you say mute , he repeats mute and you  makes a computer sound mute , and then goes to the mute function.

Okay. Okay , so that's basically the the voice recognition item we were searching for. Okay. This sample sensor uh requires an regular chip , I thought. Um no op I'm not very sure. No , it's not in here. If we want to use the L_C_D_ display , we really need the advanced version , which is a bit l little bit more costly. If we want to use the scroll-wheels we need the regular version. And if we don't want to use uh any of these uh more advanced functions we can keep with the simple uh chip , which is a bit cheaper.


Okay. Okay , so that's basically the the voice recognition item we were searching for. Okay. This sample sensor uh requires an regular chip , I thought. Um no op I'm not very sure. No , it's not in here. If we want to use the L_C_D_ display , we really need the advanced version , which is a bit l little bit more costly. If we want to use the scroll-wheels we need the regular version. And if we don't want to use uh any of these uh more advanced functions we can keep with the simple uh chip , which is a bit cheaper.

d did we already decide on the display ? To


d did we already decide on the display ? To

Um no , but I think that's something for uh Roo here to think about.


d did we already decide on the display ? To

Um no , but I think that's something for uh Roo here to think about.

Yeah. Well , I don't have um  I haven't looked for uh for information about it , but I don't think information  uh y I don't think you need it on a display.


Um no , but I think that's something for uh Roo here to think about.

Yeah. Well , I don't have um  I haven't looked for uh for information about it , but I don't think information  uh y I don't think you need it on a display.

Especially when when we have to look at a cost , I don't think uh


Yeah. Well , I don't have um  I haven't looked for uh for information about it , but I don't think information  uh y I don't think you need it on a display.

Especially when when we have to look at a cost , I don't think uh


Especially when when we have to look at a cost , I don't think uh

'cause uh  uh all  any T_V_ can uh can uh view a digit on uh on screen ,


'cause uh  uh all  any T_V_ can uh can uh view a digit on uh on screen ,


my conclusion , um unfortunately the market has decided the  a little uh other than I thought. I thought um the market would like uh a sort m sort of titanium casing , but they seem to like natural uh stuff. So maybe we should think about uh wood finish. Um I've chosen the more battery with solar cell uh solution for the energy. It's more reliable , it's cheaper.


my conclusion , um unfortunately the market has decided the  a little uh other than I thought. I thought um the market would like uh a sort m sort of titanium casing , but they seem to like natural uh stuff. So maybe we should think about uh wood finish. Um I've chosen the more battery with solar cell uh solution for the energy. It's more reliable , it's cheaper.

So I don't think we should use the dynamo thing.


So I don't think we should use the dynamo thing.

The kinetic thing it  it's it's a possibility. It's it's more advanced , but I'm  I think you should combine it with batteries.


So I don't think we should use the dynamo thing.

The kinetic thing it  it's it's a possibility. It's it's more advanced , but I'm  I think you should combine it with batteries.

Okay , it's maybe a bit too too flashy ,


The kinetic thing it  it's it's a possibility. It's it's more advanced , but I'm  I think you should combine it with batteries.

Okay , it's maybe a bit too too flashy ,


Okay , it's maybe a bit too too flashy ,


It's  in in in some way it can give us an advance , because you will save on your batteries.


It's  in in in some way it can give us an advance , because you will save on your batteries.

Yeah , but that  that's the same with the solar cell. That's no different.


Yeah , but that  that's the same with the solar cell. That's no different.


But what about um the markets  uh wants colourfuls uh designs ? So if you use titanium


But what about um the markets  uh wants colourfuls uh designs ? So if you use titanium

No no , but the uh um  that's what Sebastian said.


But what about um the markets  uh wants colourfuls uh designs ? So if you use titanium

No no , but the uh um  that's what Sebastian said.

The titanium thing uh we have to skip it.


But what about um the markets  uh wants colourfuls uh designs ? So if you use titanium

No no , but the uh um  that's what Sebastian said.

The titanium thing uh we have to skip it.

He said uh this is what uh this is my personal preference. But but yet , I understood that the market is different.


No no , but the uh um  that's what Sebastian said.

The titanium thing uh we have to skip it.

He said uh this is what uh this is my personal preference. But but yet , I understood that the market is different.


The titanium thing uh we have to skip it.

He said uh this is what uh this is my personal preference. But but yet , I understood that the market is different.


He said uh this is what uh this is my personal preference. But but yet , I understood that the market is different.


So I think we should skip the titanium uh stuff ,


So I think we should skip the titanium uh stuff ,

and we should uh use wood or something like that.


and we should uh use wood or something like that.


the  yeah , the older people liked wood.


the  yeah , the older people liked wood.

Oh okay , sorry. So it it needs to be rubber.


Oh okay , sorry. So it it needs to be rubber.


Yeah , the younger people liked soft material.


Okay , um well um these scroll-wheels , I think uh they they can be they can be handy.


Okay , um well um these scroll-wheels , I think uh they they can be they can be handy.

And they can be implemented with a regular chip ?


Okay , um well um these scroll-wheels , I think uh they they can be they can be handy.

And they can be implemented with a regular chip ?

So  Yes , they can. But they really need the regular chip , you cannot use the sa simple


Okay , um well um these scroll-wheels , I think uh they they can be they can be handy.

And they can be implemented with a regular chip ?

So  Yes , they can. But they really need the regular chip , you cannot use the sa simple

Okay , but we also  uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh sensor speaker


And they can be implemented with a regular chip ?

So  Yes , they can. But they really need the regular chip , you cannot use the sa simple

Okay , but we also  uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh sensor speaker

Well , I'm not very sure. Maybe that's an uh  a different


So  Yes , they can. But they really need the regular chip , you cannot use the sa simple

Okay , but we also  uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh sensor speaker

Well , I'm not very sure. Maybe that's an uh  a different


Okay , but we also  uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh sensor speaker

Well , I'm not very sure. Maybe that's an uh  a different

But but do we want the curved uh uh design ,


Well , I'm not very sure. Maybe that's an uh  a different

But but do we want the curved uh uh design ,


But but do we want the curved uh uh design ,


But but do we want the curved uh uh design ,

I think so , if you if you stick with the the simple uh straight-forward uh not curve design , i uh it's too dull.


I think so , if you if you stick with the the simple uh straight-forward uh not curve design , i uh it's too dull.


I think so , if you if you stick with the the simple uh straight-forward uh not curve design , i uh it's too dull.

I don't think c our customers will like it.


I don't think c our customers will like it.

And um if you uh take the double-curved , uh then you cannot  um you can only use the rubber buttons and you cannot use the scroll-wheels.


And um if you uh take the double-curved , uh then you cannot  um you can only use the rubber buttons and you cannot use the scroll-wheels.

So I think this is the best of two worlds.


And um if you uh take the double-curved , uh then you cannot  um you can only use the rubber buttons and you cannot use the scroll-wheels.

So I think this is the best of two worlds.

Okay , what about um  the issue I um addressed at the beginning of the meeting ? Um the voice function w with the infrared uh issue. Because it it's of cour


So I think this is the best of two worlds.

Okay , what about um  the issue I um addressed at the beginning of the meeting ? Um the voice function w with the infrared uh issue. Because it it's of cour

Yes. It's it's  uh I uh I can imagine it's very dull to talk to a device w if you have to point to another device.


Okay , what about um  the issue I um addressed at the beginning of the meeting ? Um the voice function w with the infrared uh issue. Because it it's of cour

Yes. It's it's  uh I uh I can imagine it's very dull to talk to a device w if you have to point to another device.


Yes. It's it's  uh I uh I can imagine it's very dull to talk to a device w if you have to point to another device.

But most infrared uh remote controls don't have to be pointed at all.


But most infrared uh remote controls don't have to be pointed at all.


But most infrared uh remote controls don't have to be pointed at all.

Well the there has to be some pointing at. But


Well the there has to be some pointing at. But

Well , if you if you take your hand before it , okay , it won't work , but you can point it just  to the other wall.


Well the there has to be some pointing at. But

Well , if you if you take your hand before it , okay , it won't work , but you can point it just  to the other wall.

Well , it depends on your walls actually. If you have uh have um smooth walls , it it it probably  you're probably right.


Well , if you if you take your hand before it , okay , it won't work , but you can point it just  to the other wall.

Well , it depends on your walls actually. If you have uh have um smooth walls , it it it probably  you're probably right.


Well , if you if you take your hand before it , okay , it won't work , but you can point it just  to the other wall.

Well , it depends on your walls actually. If you have uh have um smooth walls , it it it probably  you're probably right.

But if you have carpets on the wall , which our natural loving friends probably do have , then um  yeah , th th it might be a bit more of a issue.


Well , it depends on your walls actually. If you have uh have um smooth walls , it it it probably  you're probably right.

But if you have carpets on the wall , which our natural loving friends probably do have , then um  yeah , th th it might be a bit more of a issue.


But if you have carpets on the wall , which our natural loving friends probably do have , then um  yeah , th th it might be a bit more of a issue.


But if you have carpets on the wall , which our natural loving friends probably do have , then um  yeah , th th it might be a bit more of a issue.

Yes , because the walls they they reflect the infrared light.


Yes , because the walls they they reflect the infrared light.


Yes , because the walls they they reflect the infrared light.

So  it has an  it's easier. Um I suggest we use the the sensor sample. Uh the sample sensor and sample speaker. Um with a with a regular chip.


So  it has an  it's easier. Um I suggest we use the the sensor sample. Uh the sample sensor and sample speaker. Um with a with a regular chip.


So  it has an  it's easier. Um I suggest we use the the sensor sample. Uh the sample sensor and sample speaker. Um with a with a regular chip.

And and the scroll uh scroll-wheels. Yeah.


And and the scroll uh scroll-wheels. Yeah.


I don't think it it's any uh value added thing.


according to Ruud , the the the market likes um new flashy technology ,


well , ok I know , but it's m it's less um s standard


well , ok I know , but it's m it's less um s standard

than than  Well , we are not very w we do not know uh much about the the f the financial part. That's the problem.


than than  Well , we are not very w we do not know uh much about the the f the financial part. That's the problem.

Because if we do have enough um space in in our finance , I would say do integrate it ,


Because if we do have enough um space in in our finance , I would say do integrate it ,

because it it adds a little ext extra high-tech feeling to it.


because it it adds a little ext extra high-tech feeling to it.

But we already have the scroll-wheels , the sp uh the speaker uh the speak recognition , the rubber , the fancy colours.


But we already have the scroll-wheels , the sp uh the speaker uh the speak recognition , the rubber , the fancy colours.

Uh I think our customers will go insane.


Uh I think our customers will go insane.


Uh I think our customers will go insane.

Yeah. Okay , I I agree. I think i Ruud , do you have any um anything you would like to um add or or maybe thoughts or


Yeah. Okay , I I agree. I think i Ruud , do you have any um anything you would like to um add or or maybe thoughts or


Yeah. Okay , I I agree. I think i Ruud , do you have any um anything you would like to um add or or maybe thoughts or

No ? Sebast uh nee , Roo ?  Roo , do you have any other


No ? Sebast uh nee , Roo ?  Roo , do you have any other


No ? Sebast uh nee , Roo ?  Roo , do you have any other

Okay. Uh the n the next phase will be um the um  not the


Okay. Uh the n the next phase will be um the um  not the


Okay. Uh the n the next phase will be um the um  not the

Well , we we  need to describe uh decisions now.


Well , we we  need to describe uh decisions now.


The case uh rubber with uh c one one uh one curve.


The case uh rubber with uh c one one uh one curve.

Uh but uh can't scroll-wheels uh work with one uh one-curved case ? Yeah , okay.


Uh but uh can't scroll-wheels uh work with one uh one-curved case ? Yeah , okay.


That's that's problem. I'll check it for you.


That's that's problem. I'll check it for you.

Um then the corporate identity should be uh in the product. I guess that is something for Roo and Sebastian. Uh you talked about it before , the colours , grey and yellow.


That's that's problem. I'll check it for you.

Um then the corporate identity should be uh in the product. I guess that is something for Roo and Sebastian. Uh you talked about it before , the colours , grey and yellow.

Keep it in mind. And um the buttons , well we talked about it now. The next phase , um Sebastian , um is um the design of the look and feel. The user interface design.


Um then the corporate identity should be uh in the product. I guess that is something for Roo and Sebastian. Uh you talked about it before , the colours , grey and yellow.

Keep it in mind. And um the buttons , well we talked about it now. The next phase , um Sebastian , um is um the design of the look and feel. The user interface design.


Keep it in mind. And um the buttons , well we talked about it now. The next phase , um Sebastian , um is um the design of the look and feel. The user interface design.

And for you , the product evaluation. Um I'm sure your personal coach will give you more information on that.


Keep it in mind. And um the buttons , well we talked about it now. The next phase , um Sebastian , um is um the design of the look and feel. The user interface design.

And for you , the product evaluation. Um I'm sure your personal coach will give you more information on that.

Um and uh the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ need to work together on the prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.


And for you , the product evaluation. Um I'm sure your personal coach will give you more information on that.

Um and uh the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ need to work together on the prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.


Um and uh the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ need to work together on the prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.


Yeah , it's it's uh  when we come back in thirty minutes , uh you will have a uh prototype ready.


Yeah , it's it's uh  when we come back in thirty minutes , uh you will have a uh prototype ready.

Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made ?


Yeah , it's it's uh  when we come back in thirty minutes , uh you will have a uh prototype ready.

Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made ?

Yeah ? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down.


Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made ?

Yeah ? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down.


Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made ?

Yeah ? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down.

Great. Um  Uh you you need to help me. Um


Yeah ? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down.

Great. Um  Uh you you need to help me. Um


Great. Um  Uh you you need to help me. Um


Okay , single-curved case. Okay. What about the energy source ?


Okay , single-curved case. Okay. What about the energy source ?

But can there be uh wor can they work together ? Or do we have to choose between them ?


But can there be uh wor can they work together ? Or do we have to choose between them ?


But can there be uh wor can they work together ? Or do we have to choose between them ?

they can be complementary. Uh al al I uh


they can be complementary. Uh al al I uh


It it should be. There should be really no problem.


It it should be. There should be really no problem.

They can be supplementary. That's no problem.


They can be supplementary. That's no problem.


So uh uh just uh the energy source is um the batteries and the solar.


So uh uh just uh the energy source is um the batteries and the solar.

Okay. What about uh the finishing of the case ? We have decided we wanted to use the rubber ?


Okay. What about uh the finishing of the case ? We have decided we wanted to use the rubber ?


Okay. What about uh the finishing of the case ? We have decided we wanted to use the rubber ?

Uh if it's possible with uh different um covers , but I'm not sure if our suppliers can uh can help us with uh with such uh uh a wish.


Uh if it's possible with uh different um covers , but I'm not sure if our suppliers can uh can help us with uh with such uh uh a wish.

Okay , and I think we should use the company colours. Something like black and red.  uh black and yellow.


Uh if it's possible with uh different um covers , but I'm not sure if our suppliers can uh can help us with uh with such uh uh a wish.

Okay , and I think we should use the company colours. Something like black and red.  uh black and yellow.

Uh grey and yellow or black and yellow. Yeah.


Okay , and I think we should use the company colours. Something like black and red.  uh black and yellow.

Uh grey and yellow or black and yellow. Yeah.


Uh grey and yellow or black and yellow. Yeah.


Yeah , although I don't think that's very colourful. Except for the yellow of course ,


Yeah , although I don't think that's very colourful. Except for the yellow of course ,

but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set of colours.


Yeah , although I don't think that's very colourful. Except for the yellow of course ,

but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set of colours.

Oh , I think it's uh  it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think ?


but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set of colours.

Oh , I think it's uh  it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think ?

Well , I was more thinking about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before.


but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set of colours.

Oh , I think it's uh  it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think ?

Well , I was more thinking about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before.

I believe the  But you have already um  you must have a red uh on and off button. And um  Well  well


Oh , I think it's uh  it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think ?

Well , I was more thinking about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before.

I believe the  But you have already um  you must have a red uh on and off button. And um  Well  well

Well , it it doesn't have to be red. Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours , it should be a full colour cover with such an image


Well , I was more thinking about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before.

I believe the  But you have already um  you must have a red uh on and off button. And um  Well  well

Well , it it doesn't have to be red. Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours , it should be a full colour cover with such an image


I believe the  But you have already um  you must have a red uh on and off button. And um  Well  well

Well , it it doesn't have to be red. Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours , it should be a full colour cover with such an image

or or  I mean thinking in two colours is is too black and white for our m uh c uh market group , I guess.


Well , it it doesn't have to be red. Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours , it should be a full colour cover with such an image

or or  I mean thinking in two colours is is too black and white for our m uh c uh market group , I guess.


or or  I mean thinking in two colours is is too black and white for our m uh c uh market group , I guess.


but uh I'm afraid it's not possible to print a picture on uh the device. Because uh I agree it would be nice to have have something like that on the device itself. But


but uh I'm afraid it's not possible to print a picture on uh the device. Because uh I agree it would be nice to have have something like that on the device itself. But

Well , there is.  Just a week ago , a keyboard manufacturer would print ,


Well , there is.  Just a week ago , a keyboard manufacturer would print ,


but our manufacturing department is not so advanced in its uh techniques. They're actually very slow in its techniques.


but our manufacturing department is not so advanced in its uh techniques. They're actually very slow in its techniques.

Okay , so we have to deal with wh what's possible here.


but our manufacturing department is not so advanced in its uh techniques. They're actually very slow in its techniques.

Okay , so we have to deal with wh what's possible here.

Yeah. Okay. Um more f more more decisions we made. Um  Um


Okay , so we have to deal with wh what's possible here.

Yeah. Okay. Um more f more more decisions we made. Um  Um


Yeah. Okay. Um more f more more decisions we made. Um  Um

The scroll-heel. Yes , the voice recognition we already decided.


The scroll-heel. Yes , the voice recognition we already decided.

Okay , so scroll-wheel. But there will be some additional buttons , I guess.


Okay , so scroll-wheel. But there will be some additional buttons , I guess.

And th the  they should be spongy also , because they're they're rubber too.


Okay , so scroll-wheel. But there will be some additional buttons , I guess.

And th the  they should be spongy also , because they're they're rubber too.

Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two.


And th the  they should be spongy also , because they're they're rubber too.

Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two.


And th the  they should be spongy also , because they're they're rubber too.

Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two.

Well uh you can use  well , when you use the buttons , they'll they'll be made of rubber too.


Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two.

Well uh you can use  well , when you use the buttons , they'll they'll be made of rubber too.


Well uh you can use  well , when you use the buttons , they'll they'll be made of rubber too.


Yeah , or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber.


Yeah , or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber.

I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button , and what do they want spongy uh uh devices , or or i


Yeah , or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber.

I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button , and what do they want spongy uh uh devices , or or i

Yeah , b But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually.


Yeah , or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber.

I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button , and what do they want spongy uh uh devices , or or i

Yeah , b But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually.

What I said in the in the first uh discussion , uh the digit six on the button , it will disappear when it's from rubber.


I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button , and what do they want spongy uh uh devices , or or i

Yeah , b But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually.

What I said in the in the first uh discussion , uh the digit six on the button , it will disappear when it's from rubber.

Uh is that  uh does our our supplier say so ?


Yeah , b But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually.

What I said in the in the first uh discussion , uh the digit six on the button , it will disappear when it's from rubber.

Uh is that  uh does our our supplier say so ?

It is not uh something uh  it's no information I read about it or so , but it's just from


What I said in the in the first uh discussion , uh the digit six on the button , it will disappear when it's from rubber.

Uh is that  uh does our our supplier say so ?

It is not uh something uh  it's no information I read about it or so , but it's just from

Uh didn't  did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them to the speech recognition ?


Uh is that  uh does our our supplier say so ?

It is not uh something uh  it's no information I read about it or so , but it's just from

Uh didn't  did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them to the speech recognition ?


It is not uh something uh  it's no information I read about it or so , but it's just from

Uh didn't  did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them to the speech recognition ?

'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button.


Uh didn't  did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them to the speech recognition ?

'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button.

Yeah. You could place a  um uh this this would be the button.


'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button.

Yeah. You could place a  um uh this this would be the button.


'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button.

Yeah. You could place a  um uh this this would be the button.

The scroll-wheel , I mean. And you could place the indica th th the signals the


Yeah. You could place a  um uh this this would be the button.

The scroll-wheel , I mean. And you could place the indica th th the signals the


The scroll-wheel , I mean. And you could place the indica th th the signals the


but then you have still the images on the rubber of the case. So still then , if you feel uh li uh if you feel your remote control , you just rub on the cover , so you rub on the painting.


but then you have still the images on the rubber of the case. So still then , if you feel uh li uh if you feel your remote control , you just rub on the cover , so you rub on the painting.

No no , there's no painting , only uh yellow or  But it's into the rubber.


but then you have still the images on the rubber of the case. So still then , if you feel uh li uh if you feel your remote control , you just rub on the cover , so you rub on the painting.

No no , there's no painting , only uh yellow or  But it's into the rubber.

Yeah. Yeah , but but the the plus or the minus.


No no , there's no painting , only uh yellow or  But it's into the rubber.

Yeah. Yeah , but but the the plus or the minus.


Yeah. Yeah , but but the the plus or the minus.


yeah , I know. Um I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know what you mean.


yeah , I know. Um I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know what you mean.

Yeah , it's on the cover. So if you uh  You just move the problem.


yeah , I know. Um I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know what you mean.

Yeah , it's on the cover. So if you uh  You just move the problem.

What about um making this rubber and making this plastic ?


yeah , I know. Um I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know what you mean.

Yeah , it's on the cover. So if you uh  You just move the problem.

What about um making this rubber and making this plastic ?

Uh I see what you mean. Well , maybe that's possible , because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two.


Yeah , it's on the cover. So if you uh  You just move the problem.

What about um making this rubber and making this plastic ?

Uh I see what you mean. Well , maybe that's possible , because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two.

Yeah. Well actually , we should have it the other way around , I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean , this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel.


What about um making this rubber and making this plastic ?

Uh I see what you mean. Well , maybe that's possible , because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two.

Yeah. Well actually , we should have it the other way around , I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean , this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel.


Uh I see what you mean. Well , maybe that's possible , because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two.

Yeah. Well actually , we should have it the other way around , I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean , this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel.

But the front , on which the the buttons are doesn't have to be rubber.


Yeah. Well actually , we should have it the other way around , I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean , this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel.

But the front , on which the the buttons are doesn't have to be rubber.


But the front , on which the the buttons are doesn't have to be rubber.


I think it c should be Well , I'm not sure , I have to ask with manufacturing , but I'm I'm not sure that's what you want , because our customers specifically ask for the spongy feel , and that's what you get with rubber. So if you want the spongy feel , you need uh to make these buttons all all of rubber.


I think it c should be Well , I'm not sure , I have to ask with manufacturing , but I'm I'm not sure that's what you want , because our customers specifically ask for the spongy feel , and that's what you get with rubber. So if you want the spongy feel , you need uh to make these buttons all all of rubber.

I know , but do you touch this or do you touch this ?


I think it c should be Well , I'm not sure , I have to ask with manufacturing , but I'm I'm not sure that's what you want , because our customers specifically ask for the spongy feel , and that's what you get with rubber. So if you want the spongy feel , you need uh to make these buttons all all of rubber.

I know , but do you touch this or do you touch this ?

I mean , I I never touch between the buttons.


I know , but do you touch this or do you touch this ?

I mean , I I never touch between the buttons.


I mean , I I never touch between the buttons.


Yeah , the side , exactly , the sideways. The side , but do you touch between the the  these buttons ?


Yeah , the side , exactly , the sideways. The side , but do you touch between the the  these buttons ?

I think  Yes , especially when there are l a few buttons on it , you have uh a lot of space to touch. So you just have it in your hand completely or or  i you play with it.


Yeah , the side , exactly , the sideways. The side , but do you touch between the the  these buttons ?

I think  Yes , especially when there are l a few buttons on it , you have uh a lot of space to touch. So you just have it in your hand completely or or  i you play with it.

Okay. Well , we do not have very much time uh left. Um I guess you two have to figure that out. I'm going to leave the decision to you ,


I think  Yes , especially when there are l a few buttons on it , you have uh a lot of space to touch. So you just have it in your hand completely or or  i you play with it.

Okay. Well , we do not have very much time uh left. Um I guess you two have to figure that out. I'm going to leave the decision to you ,

um because you have to make its prototype , and um  yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers , the possibilities and uh


Okay. Well , we do not have very much time uh left. Um I guess you two have to figure that out. I'm going to leave the decision to you ,

um because you have to make its prototype , and um  yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers , the possibilities and uh


um because you have to make its prototype , and um  yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers , the possibilities and uh


um because you have to make its prototype , and um  yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers , the possibilities and uh

so I'm going to leave it  the decision with you. Um Sebastian , did you write enough decisions down ?


so I'm going to leave it  the decision with you. Um Sebastian , did you write enough decisions down ?

Um not quite. Um what about uh the chips ? We use the regular chip ?


Um not quite. Um what about uh the chips ? We use the regular chip ?


Well  no , I think that's about it. Yes.


Well  no , I think that's about it. Yes.

Okay. With those regular chips we can still uh control advanced functions. The chip is is not really


Well  no , I think that's about it. Yes.

Okay. With those regular chips we can still uh control advanced functions. The chip is is not really

The only difference between the advanced and the regular version is that the advanced uh version of the chip supports L_C_D_. That's all.


Okay. With those regular chips we can still uh control advanced functions. The chip is is not really

The only difference between the advanced and the regular version is that the advanced uh version of the chip supports L_C_D_. That's all.


The only difference between the advanced and the regular version is that the advanced uh version of the chip supports L_C_D_. That's all.


Um okay , then I think we are uh quite finished. Um I'll see you guys in thirty minutes and um


Um okay , then I think we are uh quite finished. Um I'll see you guys in thirty minutes and um

Yeah ? Yeah , um if you write  wrote anything down , uh could you put it on the shared folder ?


Yeah ? Yeah , um if you write  wrote anything down , uh could you put it on the shared folder ?


So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of  detail design of the product of the remote control. Um  So here is the agenda for today. Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two , sounds interesting. And we'll have um  presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts. Then we'll have to go through finance evaluation of the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro.  Okay. So let's go. Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting.  So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions. No L_C_D_ , no speech recognition technology , okay , we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control. We went through the use of wheels and but buttons.  And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost. Okay. Um. Good. So guys let  this uh wonderful thing.


So we should have our final meeting about the detail designed of  detail design of the product of the remote control. Um  So here is the agenda for today. Uh uh just going to go quickly through the minutes of the last last uh meeting then we have a p presentation of prototype of you two , sounds interesting. And we'll have um  presentation of evaluation crit criteria by ou our Marketing Experts. Then we'll have to go through finance evaluation of the of the cost of the thing and um hopefully uh we should fit the target o tw of twelve point five uh uh Euro.  Okay. So let's go. Uh if I go quickly through the minutes of the last meeting.  So we went through th uh w we took this following decisions. No L_C_D_ , no speech recognition technology , okay , we went through a b to a banana look and feel for the remote control. We went through the use of wheels and but buttons.  And also the use of a basis station for battery ch charging and uh also to um call the to call the mot mote remote control when it is lost. Okay. Um. Good. So guys let  this uh wonderful thing.

Yeah. Number three. Oh number two sorry.


Yeah. Number three. Oh number two sorry.


Yeah. Number three. Oh number two sorry.

So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead.


Yeah. Number three. Oh number two sorry.

So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead.

Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow  well to make a banana


So final design. Final design. Okay so Michael you can go ahead.

Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow  well to make a banana

Yeah can you show it to the the camera maybe.


Yeah so uh following our decision to uh make a yellow  well to make a banana

Yeah can you show it to the the camera maybe.


Yeah can you show it to the the camera maybe.

We've  well first first of all we made a an attractive  base station uh with a banana leaf uh look and feel um and uh


We've  well first first of all we made a an attractive  base station uh with a banana leaf uh look and feel um and uh


We've  well first first of all we made a an attractive  base station uh with a banana leaf uh look and feel um and uh

bana sit  the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself , it's kind of it's it's ergonomic , it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've got the two uh  uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath  we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally.


We've  well first first of all we made a an attractive  base station uh with a banana leaf uh look and feel um and uh

bana sit  the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself , it's kind of it's it's ergonomic , it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've got the two uh  uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath  we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally.

What's the use uh of the t turbo button already ?


bana sit  the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself , it's kind of it's it's ergonomic , it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've got the two uh  uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath  we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally.

What's the use uh of the t turbo button already ?

This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh  through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you  quickly rather th


bana sit  the banana sits in there k you know nicely weighted so that it's not gonna tip over and um this is the remote itself , it's kind of it's it's ergonomic , it fits in the hand uh rather well. We've got the two uh  uh scroll wheels here which you know one on the the left for the uh volume and the one on the right for for the channel and uh underneath  we have the uh the turbo button which is in like a nice uh trigger position for you know for pressing quite naturally.

What's the use uh of the t turbo button already ?

This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh  through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you  quickly rather th

Ah yeah yeah an then you stop when you stop it stops.


What's the use uh of the t turbo button already ?

This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh  through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you  quickly rather th

Ah yeah yeah an then you stop when you stop it stops.

Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But normally with uh  it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see the the picture.


This is when you when you uh are scrolling the uh  through the channels you can tell it to to skip th past channels that you  quickly rather th

Ah yeah yeah an then you stop when you stop it stops.

Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But normally with uh  it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see the the picture.


Ah yeah yeah an then you stop when you stop it stops.

Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But normally with uh  it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see the the picture.


Yeah. Well when you stop scrolling the wheel it stops. But normally with uh  it will just uh s stay on each station briefly so you can see the the picture.

And we we do have one more functionality. If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button , so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_.


And we we do have one more functionality. If you take the banana as such and uh you press the turbo button , so it switch ons the switch ons the T_V_.


So rather than having uh an extra button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button.


So rather than having uh an extra button for um for the on off switch you just use the turbo button.

This is a teletext button. So once you press that then you get teletext


This is a teletext button. So once you press that then you get teletext


This is a teletext button. So once you press that then you get teletext

and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh


This is a teletext button. So once you press that then you get teletext

and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh

To navigate it through th through teletext.


and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh

To navigate it through th through teletext.


and you can use the the channel selector scroll wheel as uh

To navigate it through th through teletext.

But if you want to go to page seven hundred ?


To navigate it through th through teletext.

But if you want to go to page seven hundred ?


But if you want to go to page seven hundred ?


Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing , you press the  the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go  you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh


Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing , you press the  the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go  you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh

I don't understand it. Can you repeat it ?


Well then you can you you have like a little uh number selection thing , you press the  the the teletext button uh to move between uh the fields and then you can just scroll the number back and forth so you have s you go  you scroll to seven and then zero zero and then you can uh

I don't understand it. Can you repeat it ?

Well you can you can press press the teletext button


I don't understand it. Can you repeat it ?

Well you can you can press press the teletext button

So then then both the scroll buttons they are for teletext browsing.


Well you can you can press press the teletext button

So then then both the scroll buttons they are for teletext browsing.


So then then both the scroll buttons they are for teletext browsing.


once you press the teletext button then the scroll buttons they are more for teletext , they are no more for channel or vol volume.


once you press the teletext button then the scroll buttons they are more for teletext , they are no more for channel or vol volume.

And this is the uh the infrared uh port.


And this is the uh the infrared uh port.


in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh for calling the uh the banana.


in the uh in the base station we have the the button at the front for uh for calling the uh the banana.

And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas ?


And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas ?


And the the leaves plays the roles of of antennas ?

That's that's yeah that's uh that's form and function in the one in the one uh object.


That's that's yeah that's uh that's form and function in the one in the one uh object.

Yeah. So it always means , whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage.


Yeah. So it always means , whatever the rays goes by they they get reflected and then you are having a better coverage.

But yeah that's um that's just like  that's an attractive um base station.


But yeah that's um that's just like  that's an attractive um base station.


And for the power source we are having solar cells and rechargeable batteries and this and uh the basis station is going to have the input from the mm power line for for charging the batteries.


It's it's uh it's about the weight of a banana.


It's it's uh it's about the weight of a banana.

You know , to give you the correct look and feel.


You know , to give you the correct look and feel.


You know , to give you the correct look and feel.

And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana.


And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana.

Otherwise it's you know a child comes and so


And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana.

Otherwise it's you know a child comes and so

Okay. Yeah yeah yeah , I see. I under I understand.


And we have put these different colours so that people don't mistake them mistake it as a banana.

Otherwise it's you know a child comes and so

Okay. Yeah yeah yeah , I see. I under I understand.

I think a child would try to eat it anyway , so maybe we should


Otherwise it's you know a child comes and so

Okay. Yeah yeah yeah , I see. I under I understand.

I think a child would try to eat it anyway , so maybe we should


Okay. Yeah yeah yeah , I see. I under I understand.

I think a child would try to eat it anyway , so maybe we should

consider that.  maybe health and safety aspects.


I think a child would try to eat it anyway , so maybe we should

consider that.  maybe health and safety aspects.


consider that.  maybe health and safety aspects.


So for the power source , apparently you still  you you want to use both solar cells and batteries.


So for the power source , apparently you still  you you want to use both solar cells and batteries.

I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary any more if you have a recharging base station.


I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary any more if you have a recharging base station.

Yeah , where are going to  where are you are you going to place them ?


I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary any more if you have a recharging base station.

Yeah , where are going to  where are you are you going to place them ?

Mm-hmm mm-hmm. It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there.


I don't really know if the solar cells are actually necessary any more if you have a recharging base station.

Yeah , where are going to  where are you are you going to place them ?

Mm-hmm mm-hmm. It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there.

If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like uh the black bit


Yeah , where are going to  where are you are you going to place them ?

Mm-hmm mm-hmm. It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there.

If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like uh the black bit


Mm-hmm mm-hmm. It'll It'll be always at top somewhere at there.

If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like uh the black bit

but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells anymore.


If I was gonna place them I'd put them on the on the top here since that's like uh the black bit

but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells anymore.

Yeah because now we are having rechargeable batteries


but yeah I don't I really don't think it's necessary to have the solar cells anymore.

Yeah because now we are having rechargeable batteries


Yeah because now we are having rechargeable batteries


Uh I mean how long does i how how how long can it be held off a station ?


Uh I mean how long does i how how how long can it be held off a station ?

How long the  how long the bit the batteries long.


How long the  how long the bit the batteries long.


N most  no most of the time it's not being used.


N most  no most of the time it's not being used.

Yeah but y people don't like to put it back in the base station all the time people leave wanna leave it on the couch so


Yeah but y people don't like to put it back in the base station all the time people leave wanna leave it on the couch so


Yeah but y people don't like to put it back in the base station all the time people leave wanna leave it on the couch so

Mm. Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working.


Mm. Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working.


Mm. Mm-hmm. No eight or eight or ten hours of working.

If you are just leaving like that it'll be much longer.


If you are just leaving like that it'll be much longer.


Yeah. And we are having the speakers regular chip for control. Pricing is  was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip. And uh that's it.


Yeah. And we are having the speakers regular chip for control. Pricing is  was a factor so that's why we have gone for a regular chip only not the advanced chip. And uh that's it.

Okay.  Okay. Those really sounds very good.


Okay.  Okay. Those really sounds very good.


I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince me the less is the  the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit


I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince me the less is the  the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit

You want to have more functional buttons ?


I like I like it. Maybe the the thing that convince me the less is the  the multifunctional buttons. Looks a bit

You want to have more functional buttons ?

Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say  that.


You want to have more functional buttons ?

Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say  that.

You  the the b the buttons change h h their function depending if y it's teletext or not


Looks a bit puzzled uh I dunno how to say  that.

You  the the b the buttons change h h their function depending if y it's teletext or not

Not not many , we we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case , that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that , the channel buttons , they baco become the scrolling buttons.


You  the the b the buttons change h h their function depending if y it's teletext or not

Not not many , we we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case , that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that , the channel buttons , they baco become the scrolling buttons.


Not not many , we we want to keep it simple. So that this button fo is for teletext which is usually also the case , that usually there is a teletext button and once you press that , the channel buttons , they baco become the scrolling buttons.

Well in fact b both will be  could be useful , navigating through teletext.


Well in fact b both will be  could be useful , navigating through teletext.

Now that  Means let's say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits.


Well in fact b both will be  could be useful , navigating through teletext.

Now that  Means let's say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits.

Or can move between positions in the in the number.


Now that  Means let's say this this can move the the larger digits and this can move the smaller digits.

Or can move between positions in the in the number.


Or can move between positions in the in the number.

And what about people who want to use digits ? Butto real buttons ?


And what about people who want to use digits ? Butto real buttons ?


And what about people who want to use digits ? Butto real buttons ?

Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape.


And what about people who want to use digits ? Butto real buttons ?

Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape.

So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing , they they don't care about the buttons any more. And anyway


Yeah. So there was there was a constraint that the surface area which we have on this banana on one side because of the shape.

So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing , they they don't care about the buttons any more. And anyway

Okay. Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff ?


So we are targeting a segment which is which is just very trendy kind of thing , they they don't care about the buttons any more. And anyway

Okay. Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff ?


Okay. Because have you thought about configuration and all this kind of uh stuff ?


So we have to go through now evaluations.


So this is one , which one is this one ?


So this is one , which one is this one ?

Okay. I  I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is  will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is  or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven.


Okay. I  I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is  will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is  or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven.


Okay. I  I const I constructed a a list of criteria based on the on the general user requirements. And each criteria is  will be evaluated it's uh logical criteria so we must users must say i if it's true or is  or if it's false in a in a scale ranging from zero to seven.

Usually I have seen that scales are from one to ten.


Usually I have seen that scales are from one to ten.

Ah yeah. It's from  sorry , it's from one to seven. It's from from one to seven sorry. Because it should be an even it should be an even uh scale ,


Ah yeah. It's from  sorry , it's from one to seven. It's from from one to seven sorry. Because it should be an even it should be an even uh scale ,


and five is too short and nine is too long.


So to have  in order to have enough granularity


So to have  in order to have enough granularity

it's in order to have enough granularity in the evaluation.


it's in order to have enough granularity in the evaluation.


And that's the criteria I I found more useful. I think I sh I  I could write the criteria in the on the whiteboard ?


Okay let's let's evaluate if it's fancy or


So you can add seven plus six plus seven plus


Five , maybe maybe maybe six it's it's I guess it's


I'd give it a six like I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote , 'cause of the scroll wheels


I'd give it a six like I'd I think it's probably more handy than my current remote , 'cause of the scroll wheels

but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason but you know you can always use your other remote.


but maybe loses the point for not having you know the extra buttons when you reall if you do need them for some reason but you know you can always use your other remote.


Well it depends when you say functional , do you mean it does what we want it to do , or d does what it does , you know , can it make you coffee ?


Well it depends when you say functional , do you mean it does what we want it to do , or d does what it does , you know , can it make you coffee ?

Uh for a remote control , does he have all the


Uh for a remote control , does he have all the


That's right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf.


That's right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf.

Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal remote contro


That's right. The standards. What is available in the market off the shelf.

Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal remote contro

Well it's not a universal remote. Remember we're focus we're supposed to focus just on T_V_s.


Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal remote contro

Well it's not a universal remote. Remember we're focus we're supposed to focus just on T_V_s.


Actually I don't know what are the r the real specification of a of a universal remote contro

Well it's not a universal remote. Remember we're focus we're supposed to focus just on T_V_s.

Ah it's not an univer but it's for all kind of T_V_s ?


Well it's not a universal remote. Remember we're focus we're supposed to focus just on T_V_s.

Ah it's not an univer but it's for all kind of T_V_s ?


Ah it's not an univer but it's for all kind of T_V_s ?

Well all T_V_s but only T_  only T_V_s I guess.


Ah it's not an univer but it's for all kind of T_V_s ?

Well all T_V_s but only T_  only T_V_s I guess.

So it's universal but for T_V_s.  So s uh four ?


Well all T_V_s but only T_  only T_V_s I guess.

So it's universal but for T_V_s.  So s uh four ?


So it's universal but for T_V_s.  So s uh four ?


It means cool features , like new features actually.


It means cool features , like new features actually.

For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature. And then the scroll buttons are again cool features. We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have.


For a T_V_ the most important feature which I felt was the locator which is a cool feature. And then the scroll buttons are again cool features. We don't have L_C_D_ for it but that we decided we don't want to have.


Seven. Seven. And you ? Outl you are not lik outlier.


Alright , now here's the sixty million Dollar question ,


Alright , now here's the sixty million Dollar question ,

well , twenty five twenty five Euro question.


well , twenty five twenty five Euro question.

Of cour Of course the most difficult question for the end.


Of cour Of course the most difficult question for the end.


I dunno. If i i it depends , if you live in in Switzerland or you live in


I dunno. If i i it depends , if you live in in Switzerland or you live in

Yeah , so the target price is for all Europe , or only for rich countries ?  It's more targeting U_K_ or


I dunno. If i i it depends , if you live in in Switzerland or you live in

Yeah , so the target price is for all Europe , or only for rich countries ?  It's more targeting U_K_ or

I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or


Yeah , so the target price is for all Europe , or only for rich countries ?  It's more targeting U_K_ or

I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or

So this is selling costs , not production costs.


I don't know. Wha the initial specifications were for the whole all Europe or

So this is selling costs , not production costs.


So this is selling costs , not production costs.

Yeah this is the the initial specifications.


Yeah this is the the initial specifications.

I would say six. It's quite cheap actually.


I would say six. It's quite cheap actually.


I don't want a banana on my  living room table , a banana remote.


I don't want a banana on my  living room table , a banana remote.

No but it's really handy actually if you see.


I don't want a banana on my  living room table , a banana remote.

No but it's really handy actually if you see.

It is handy , it's handy , but it it's terrible.


No but it's really handy actually if you see.

It is handy , it's handy , but it it's terrible.


It is handy , it's handy , but it it's terrible.

Anyb anybody who comes here   anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this.


Anyb anybody who comes here   anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this.

Yeah. Yeah , but it's not a positive thing.


Anyb anybody who comes here   anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this.

Yeah. Yeah , but it's not a positive thing.

It's a very positive thing if you see like that .


Anyb anybody who comes here   anybody who comes to your home he'll at least ask once what is this.

Yeah. Yeah , but it's not a positive thing.

It's a very positive thing if you see like that .

Well , you know , it's it's handy , it's ergonomic , but it's a banana.


Yeah. Yeah , but it's not a positive thing.

It's a very positive thing if you see like that .

Well , you know , it's it's handy , it's ergonomic , but it's a banana.

Well , don't forget well , don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are wh


It's a very positive thing if you see like that .

Well , you know , it's it's handy , it's ergonomic , but it's a banana.

Well , don't forget well , don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are wh


Well , you know , it's it's handy , it's ergonomic , but it's a banana.

Well , don't forget well , don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are wh


Well , don't forget well , don't for don't forget who we're targeting also who are f f who are wh

Yeah but it says I , I would buy this , so.


Yeah but it says I , I would buy this , so.


Yeah but it says I , I would buy this , so.

No  well  yeah  I  if you would be young.


No  well  yeah  I  if you would be young.

Not telling that you are young. Li li like a teenager for instance.


Not telling that you are young. Li li like a teenager for instance.

Okay you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun things.


Okay you're you're crazy teenager and you like fun things.


Yeah , you want to show the beautiful banana you have.


Yeah , you want to show the beautiful banana you have.

Or might be it does some other kind of thing but


Yeah , you want to show the beautiful banana you have.

Or might be it does some other kind of thing but

Still I I'd say two. I don't think I  at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control , really.


Or might be it does some other kind of thing but

Still I I'd say two. I don't think I  at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control , really.


Still I I'd say two. I don't think I  at any stage in my life I would want a banana remote control , really.

I can say , maybe there is a market for it , I dunno.


I can say , maybe there is a market for it , I dunno.


Yeah it's two different situations. If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one.


Yeah it's two different situations. If you really need an universal remote control or if you would change your remote control for a n for a new one.

If I had t if I had to spend twenty five Euro , if that was like my limit , maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look


If I had t if I had to spend twenty five Euro , if that was like my limit , maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look


If I had t if I had to spend twenty five Euro , if that was like my limit , maybe I would buy it. Because the other twenty five Euro remote controls are probably gonna look

They're not going to be as  And they they might not be a as easy as this


They're not going to be as  And they they might not be a as easy as this

And it  yeah this is gonna f you know handy to use.


And it  yeah this is gonna f you know handy to use.


Although it still has it still has the word of course at the beginning


Six , so it's uh five point five , or less.


Six , so it's uh five point five , or less.

So and last question , will I change my rem change my remote control from Mando banana. Um , zero. No uh we can't.


So and last question , will I change my rem change my remote control from Mando banana. Um , zero. No uh we can't.


I'd say three , I mean my remote control is kinda  at home is pretty terrible. If it was  change my remote control of my D_V_D_ player for a Mando banana then I would be more inclined to


So it's somewhere three point five I think.


It's not very promising but you know we're not young trendsetters.


It's not very promising but you know we're not young trendsetters.

No because there are more  yeah , we shouldn't sum like that.


It's not very promising but you know we're not young trendsetters.

No because there are more  yeah , we shouldn't sum like that.

Well maybe we should we should uh have a look globally glob


It's not very promising but you know we're not young trendsetters.

No because there are more  yeah , we shouldn't sum like that.

Well maybe we should we should uh have a look globally glob

Because the the last two questions is much more important than the rest actually.


No because there are more  yeah , we shouldn't sum like that.

Well maybe we should we should uh have a look globally glob

Because the the last two questions is much more important than the rest actually.


Well maybe we should we should uh have a look globally glob

Because the the last two questions is much more important than the rest actually.

Otherwise we wouldn't  we will not sell.


Because the the last two questions is much more important than the rest actually.

Otherwise we wouldn't  we will not sell.

Is there some some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up ?


Otherwise we wouldn't  we will not sell.

Is there some some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up ?


Is there some some formula you're using that says you have to sum them up ?


So maybe maybe w we can we should stick to general feeling. We can had uh have a  out of these numbers , which which is that well we should go for it.


I think it it kind of you just lose information if you sum it , so.


I think it it kind of you just lose information if you sum it , so.

Okay ,  now now we have to mm to estimate  uh the cost okay. So I prepare an Excel sh uh an Excel sheet. Um well we are going to calculate the production costs. We should we should be below twelve point five. So I already uh put some pu some numbers here , okay. We are going to go through   so this is the number the mm number of components we need for this thing. So it appears that there were things that we didn't thought about. Uh and also things that I uh I d I forget to uh to put like solar cells.


Okay ,  now now we have to mm to estimate  uh the cost okay. So I prepare an Excel sh uh an Excel sheet. Um well we are going to calculate the production costs. We should we should be below twelve point five. So I already uh put some pu some numbers here , okay. We are going to go through   so this is the number the mm number of components we need for this thing. So it appears that there were things that we didn't thought about. Uh and also things that I uh I d I forget to uh to put like solar cells.

Well we decided against the solar cells so


Well we decided against the solar cells so

Solar cells , yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah , we said no to that.


Solar cells , yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah , we said no to that.

Okay so let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But


Solar cells , yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah , we said no to that.

Okay so let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But

You mean , charging it by shaking the banana.


Okay so let's let's go let's go let go through all the lines. So hand dynamo. This something we didn't thought about. But

You mean , charging it by shaking the banana.

I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing.


You mean , charging it by shaking the banana.

I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing.


I think rechargeable batteries will take care of the power thing.


No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo.


No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo.

Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually


No kinetic also. I don't I don't see the difference between kinetic and dynamo.

Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually

Ah you have to  ah okay I see so kinetic is really uh shaking the banana.


Well maybe dynamo is like you have to actually

Ah you have to  ah okay I see so kinetic is really uh shaking the banana.


Ah you have to  ah okay I see so kinetic is really uh shaking the banana.

Crazy. Okay. So those banana is falling. Let's go ahead. So we we st only have one for battery. Uh then for electronics um so I didn't put anything for the .


Crazy. Okay. So those banana is falling. Let's go ahead. So we we st only have one for battery. Uh then for electronics um so I didn't put anything for the .

So we have the regular chip on the print , which is one.


So we have the regular chip on the print , which is one.


Yeah. Yeah.  the cost of that is very high.


Yeah. Yeah.  the cost of that is very high.

Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing. So we are


Yeah. Yeah.  the cost of that is very high.

Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing. So we are

Well actually that that  no that sample speaker is not  we we're not using that , we're just using the the very beep  simple beep ,


Ooh ye ye ye the cost is increasing. So we are

Well actually that that  no that sample speaker is not  we we're not using that , we're just using the the very beep  simple beep ,

that s that sample thing is like the voice recording and everything.


Well actually that that  no that sample speaker is not  we we're not using that , we're just using the the very beep  simple beep ,

that s that sample thing is like the voice recording and everything.


that s that sample thing is like the voice recording and everything.


Oh there is no listing for r radio frequency thing.


Oh there is no listing for r radio frequency thing.

So we we'll put some extras , if there is something.


So we we'll put some extras , if there is something.