I don't like the , you know the new phones that have kind of got a Windows-based running system.


I don't like the , you know the new phones that have kind of got a Windows-based running system.

I find it really confusing , I kept getting lost  in the phone , I di I've not got a new one but uh my friend got a new one


I find it really confusing , I kept getting lost  in the phone , I di I've not got a new one but uh my friend got a new one


I find it really confusing , I kept getting lost  in the phone , I di I've not got a new one but uh my friend got a new one

and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost , but that's just me.


I find it really confusing , I kept getting lost  in the phone , I di I've not got a new one but uh my friend got a new one

and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost , but that's just me.

Yeah , I don't I don't know how for twenty fi , or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get ,


and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost , but that's just me.

Yeah , I don't I don't know how for twenty fi , or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get ,


and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost , but that's just me.

Yeah , I don't I don't know how for twenty fi , or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get ,

you'd you'd have to sort of keep it down to a black and white L_C_D_ thing anyway , I'd assume.


Yeah , I don't I don't know how for twenty fi , or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get ,

you'd you'd have to sort of keep it down to a black and white L_C_D_ thing anyway , I'd assume.

Mm-hmm. Is it possible that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books ?


you'd you'd have to sort of keep it down to a black and white L_C_D_ thing anyway , I'd assume.

Mm-hmm. Is it possible that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books ?


Mm-hmm. Is it possible that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books ?

Obviously it displays less on the screen , it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing.


Obviously it displays less on the screen , it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing.

Yeah. Or what about kind of a dual function ? In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play , volume , programme things


Obviously it displays less on the screen , it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing.

Yeah. Or what about kind of a dual function ? In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play , volume , programme things

and also  and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures , obvious symbols and that's where you control recording and things like that.


Yeah. Or what about kind of a dual function ? In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play , volume , programme things

and also  and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures , obvious symbols and that's where you control recording and things like that.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm. The other thing is , just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again , it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top , your screen is  you can have a bigger screen in the the flip over.


and also  and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures , obvious symbols and that's where you control recording and things like that.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm. The other thing is , just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again , it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top , your screen is  you can have a bigger screen in the the flip over.


Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm. The other thing is , just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again , it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top , your screen is  you can have a bigger screen in the the flip over.

I think that's a cost thing , I don't I don't know how much we're gonna know about


I think that's a cost thing , I don't I don't know how much we're gonna know about


I think that's a cost thing , I don't I don't know how much we're gonna know about

it might save a b bit of space , it's i instead of looking bulky , it might look small.


it might save a b bit of space , it's i instead of looking bulky , it might look small.


it might save a b bit of space , it's i instead of looking bulky , it might look small.

But it might have its cost implications.


But it might have its cost implications.


And there's no reason we need to make it look as fashionable and stylish as a mobile phone , it can still be lightweight plastic , you know ?


And there's no reason we need to make it look as fashionable and stylish as a mobile phone , it can still be lightweight plastic , you know ?

Something that's easily moulded and produced.


Something that's easily moulded and produced.


Something that's easily moulded and produced.

Sorry I'm treading on your territory guys.


Sorry I'm treading on your territory guys.


Sorry I'm treading on your territory guys.

we've got half an hour before the next meeting , so we're all gonna go off and do our individual things. Um I think that's probably about it and then we'll come back and liaise again and I get to do another fantastic PowerPoint presentation.


we've got half an hour before the next meeting , so we're all gonna go off and do our individual things. Um I think that's probably about it and then we'll come back and liaise again and I get to do another fantastic PowerPoint presentation.

Yeah. Just just a quick thing about the um


we've got half an hour before the next meeting , so we're all gonna go off and do our individual things. Um I think that's probably about it and then we'll come back and liaise again and I get to do another fantastic PowerPoint presentation.

Yeah. Just just a quick thing about the um

about what you're saying about the uh  does does it need to be fashionable ? The sort of  I I had a quick look at the company website and it's like the the uh  we put the fashion into electronics , so I think think the whole design thing might be qui


Yeah. Just just a quick thing about the um

about what you're saying about the uh  does does it need to be fashionable ? The sort of  I I had a quick look at the company website and it's like the the uh  we put the fashion into electronics , so I think think the whole design thing might be qui


about what you're saying about the uh  does does it need to be fashionable ? The sort of  I I had a quick look at the company website and it's like the the uh  we put the fashion into electronics , so I think think the whole design thing might be qui


I mean you don't  you you can still have plastic


I mean you don't  you you can still have plastic

But  yeah , I mean it doesn't have to be that , you know  th that was my main point ,


But  yeah , I mean it doesn't have to be that , you know  th that was my main point ,


But  yeah , I mean it doesn't have to be that , you know  th that was my main point ,

we don't have to use metal , I don't know if using plastic does make it cheaper ,


we don't have to use metal , I don't know if using plastic does make it cheaper ,


it would probably. I mean there's Sky remote controls and everything. They're kind of moulded and look a bit different , and the Telewest remote controls are silver plastic , which looks a bit smarter ,


it would probably. I mean there's Sky remote controls and everything. They're kind of moulded and look a bit different , and the Telewest remote controls are silver plastic , which looks a bit smarter ,

so yeah I guess that's stuff we can think about.


Alright , so I 'm - I should read all of these numbers ?


OK , so uh i um I don't know whether Ami 's coming or not um but I think we oughta just get started.


OK , so uh i um I don't know whether Ami 's coming or not um but I think we oughta just get started.

Nancy is uh currently in Berkeley but not here ?


Nancy is uh currently in Berkeley but not here ?


Oh , so there you go. Anyway , so my idea f for today and we can uh decide that that isn't the right thing to do was to at  spend at least part of the time trying to eh build the influence links , you know which sets of things are uh relevant to which decisions and actually I had uh specific s suggestion to start first with the path ones. The database ones being in some sense less interesting to us although probably have to be done and so to do that so there 's  and the idea was we were gonna do two things


Oh , so there you go. Anyway , so my idea f for today and we can uh decide that that isn't the right thing to do was to at  spend at least part of the time trying to eh build the influence links , you know which sets of things are uh relevant to which decisions and actually I had uh specific s suggestion to start first with the path ones. The database ones being in some sense less interesting to us although probably have to be done and so to do that so there 's  and the idea was we were gonna do two things

Ah. Oh right , well. Yeah. We were gonna do two things one of which is just lay out the influence structure of what we think influences what


Ah. Oh right , well. Yeah. We were gonna do two things one of which is just lay out the influence structure of what we think influences what

and then as a uh separate but related task uh particularly Bhaskara and I were going to try to decide what kinds of belief nodes are needed in order to um do what we  what we need to do. Once so but du we should sort of have all of the uh basic design of what influences what done before we decide exactly how to compute it. So I didn't  did you get a chance to look at all  yet ?


and then as a uh separate but related task uh particularly Bhaskara and I were going to try to decide what kinds of belief nodes are needed in order to um do what we  what we need to do. Once so but du we should sort of have all of the uh basic design of what influences what done before we decide exactly how to compute it. So I didn't  did you get a chance to look at all  yet ?

Great. OK so let 's start with the uh belief - nets , the general influence stuff and then we 'll  then we 'll also at some point break and talk about the techy stuff.


and then as a uh separate but related task uh particularly Bhaskara and I were going to try to decide what kinds of belief nodes are needed in order to um do what we  what we need to do. Once so but du we should sort of have all of the uh basic design of what influences what done before we decide exactly how to compute it. So I didn't  did you get a chance to look at all  yet ?

Great. OK so let 's start with the uh belief - nets , the general influence stuff and then we 'll  then we 'll also at some point break and talk about the techy stuff.

Well I think one could go there 's I think we can di discuss everything. First of all this I added , I knew from sort of basically this has to be there right ? Um


Great. OK so let 's start with the uh belief - nets , the general influence stuff and then we 'll  then we 'll also at some point break and talk about the techy stuff.

Well I think one could go there 's I think we can di discuss everything. First of all this I added , I knew from sort of basically this has to be there right ? Um

Oh are you gonna go there or not ? Yeah , so one i


Great. OK so let 's start with the uh belief - nets , the general influence stuff and then we 'll  then we 'll also at some point break and talk about the techy stuff.

Well I think one could go there 's I think we can di discuss everything. First of all this I added , I knew from sort of basically this has to be there right ? Um

Oh are you gonna go there or not ? Yeah , so one i

Given  given uh uh not transverse the castle , the decision is does the person want to go there or is it just


Well I think one could go there 's I think we can di discuss everything. First of all this I added , I knew from sort of basically this has to be there right ? Um

Oh are you gonna go there or not ? Yeah , so one i

Given  given uh uh not transverse the castle , the decision is does the person want to go there or is it just

Right , true. Does have to be there. And I 'm sure we 'll find more as we go that


Oh are you gonna go there or not ? Yeah , so one i

Given  given uh uh not transverse the castle , the decision is does the person want to go there or is it just

Right , true. Does have to be there. And I 'm sure we 'll find more as we go that

And Hmm ? So Go - there in the first place or not is definitely uh one of the basic ones. We can start with that. Interesting effect. Um Is this basically true or false or maybe we 'll get


Given  given uh uh not transverse the castle , the decision is does the person want to go there or is it just

Right , true. Does have to be there. And I 'm sure we 'll find more as we go that

And Hmm ? So Go - there in the first place or not is definitely uh one of the basic ones. We can start with that. Interesting effect. Um Is this basically true or false or maybe we 'll get


Right , true. Does have to be there. And I 'm sure we 'll find more as we go that

And Hmm ? So Go - there in the first place or not is definitely uh one of the basic ones. We can start with that. Interesting effect. Um Is this basically true or false or maybe we 'll get


And Hmm ? So Go - there in the first place or not is definitely uh one of the basic ones. We can start with that. Interesting effect. Um Is this basically true or false or maybe we 'll get


Here we we actually get just probabilities ,


Here we we actually get just probabilities ,

When we 're  yeah when we 're done. So  so


When we 're  yeah when we 're done. So  so


When we 're  yeah when we 're done. So  so

the  the reason it might not be true or false is that we did have this idea of when so it 's , you know uh current @ @ and so forth and so on or not at all ,


the  the reason it might not be true or false is that we did have this idea of when so it 's , you know uh current @ @ and so forth and so on or not at all ,

right ? And so that a decision would be do we want that so you could  two different things you could do , you could have all those values for Go - there or you could have Go - there be binary and given that you 're going there when.


right ? And so that a decision would be do we want that so you could  two different things you could do , you could have all those values for Go - there or you could have Go - there be binary and given that you 're going there when.


I mean it seems that you could um uh it seems that those things would be logically independent like you would wanna have them separate or binary , Go - there and then the  the possibilities of how to go there because


I mean it seems that you could um uh it seems that those things would be logically independent like you would wanna have them separate or binary , Go - there and then the  the possibilities of how to go there because

because , you know it might be easy to figure out that this person is going to need more film eventually from their utterance but it 's much more complex to query when would be the most appropriate time.


I mean it seems that you could um uh it seems that those things would be logically independent like you would wanna have them separate or binary , Go - there and then the  the possibilities of how to go there because

because , you know it might be easy to figure out that this person is going to need more film eventually from their utterance but it 's much more complex to query when would be the most appropriate time.

Hmm. Hmm. OK. And so I 've tried to come up with some initial things one could observe so who is the user ? Everything that has user comes from the user model everything that has situation comes from the situation model - A. We should be be clear. But when it comes to sort of writing down when you  when you do these things is it here ? You sort of have to a write the values this can take.


because , you know it might be easy to figure out that this person is going to need more film eventually from their utterance but it 's much more complex to query when would be the most appropriate time.

Hmm. Hmm. OK. And so I 've tried to come up with some initial things one could observe so who is the user ? Everything that has user comes from the user model everything that has situation comes from the situation model - A. We should be be clear. But when it comes to sort of writing down when you  when you do these things is it here ? You sort of have to a write the values this can take.


because , you know it might be easy to figure out that this person is going to need more film eventually from their utterance but it 's much more complex to query when would be the most appropriate time.

Hmm. Hmm. OK. And so I 've tried to come up with some initial things one could observe so who is the user ? Everything that has user comes from the user model everything that has situation comes from the situation model - A. We should be be clear. But when it comes to sort of writing down when you  when you do these things is it here ? You sort of have to a write the values this can take.

And here I was really uh in some s sometimes I was really sort of standing in front of a wall feeling very stupid because um  this case it 's pretty simple , but as we will see the other ones um for example if it 's a running budget so what are the discrete values of a running budget ? So maybe my understanding there is too impoverished.


Hmm. Hmm. OK. And so I 've tried to come up with some initial things one could observe so who is the user ? Everything that has user comes from the user model everything that has situation comes from the situation model - A. We should be be clear. But when it comes to sort of writing down when you  when you do these things is it here ? You sort of have to a write the values this can take.

And here I was really uh in some s sometimes I was really sort of standing in front of a wall feeling very stupid because um  this case it 's pretty simple , but as we will see the other ones um for example if it 's a running budget so what are the discrete values of a running budget ? So maybe my understanding there is too impoverished.


And here I was really uh in some s sometimes I was really sort of standing in front of a wall feeling very stupid because um  this case it 's pretty simple , but as we will see the other ones um for example if it 's a running budget so what are the discrete values of a running budget ? So maybe my understanding there is too impoverished.


And here I was really uh in some s sometimes I was really sort of standing in front of a wall feeling very stupid because um  this case it 's pretty simple , but as we will see the other ones um for example if it 's a running budget so what are the discrete values of a running budget ? So maybe my understanding there is too impoverished.

How can I write here that this is something , a number that cr keeps on changing ? But OK. Thus is understandable ?


How can I write here that this is something , a number that cr keeps on changing ? But OK. Thus is understandable ?


You 've s have you seen this before at all Keith , these belief - net things ?


You 've s have you seen this before at all Keith , these belief - net things ?

Uh , no , but I think I 'm following it. So far.


You 've s have you seen this before at all Keith , these belief - net things ?

Uh , no , but I think I 'm following it. So far.

So here is the  the  we had that the user 's budget may influence the outcome of decisions.


Uh , no , but I think I 'm following it. So far.

So here is the  the  we had that the user 's budget may influence the outcome of decisions.


So here is the  the  we had that the user 's budget may influence the outcome of decisions.

There we wanted to keep sort of a running total of things.


There we wanted to keep sort of a running total of things.

Is this like a number that represents how much money they have left to spend ? OK , h well I mean how is it different from user finance ?


There we wanted to keep sort of a running total of things.

Is this like a number that represents how much money they have left to spend ? OK , h well I mean how is it different from user finance ?

Um the finance is sort of here thought of as  as the financial policy a person carries out in his life , he  is he cheap , average , or spendy ?


Is this like a number that represents how much money they have left to spend ? OK , h well I mean how is it different from user finance ?

Um the finance is sort of here thought of as  as the financial policy a person carries out in his life , he  is he cheap , average , or spendy ?

And um I didn't come uh maybe a user I don't know , I didn't want to write greediness , but


Um the finance is sort of here thought of as  as the financial policy a person carries out in his life , he  is he cheap , average , or spendy ?

And um I didn't come uh maybe a user I don't know , I didn't want to write greediness , but


And um I didn't come uh maybe a user I don't know , I didn't want to write greediness , but


Yeah. So Keith w what 's behind this is actually a program that will once you fill all this in actually s solve your belief - nets for you and stuff.


Yeah. So Keith w what 's behind this is actually a program that will once you fill all this in actually s solve your belief - nets for you and stuff.

So this is not just a display , this is actually a GUI to a simulator that will if we tell it all the right things we 'll wind up with a functioning belief - net at the other end.


So this is not just a display , this is actually a GUI to a simulator that will if we tell it all the right things we 'll wind up with a functioning belief - net at the other end.


OK , so here was OK , I can think of uh people being cheap , average , or spendy or we can even have a  a finer scale moderately cheap ,


OK , so here was OK , I can think of uh people being cheap , average , or spendy or we can even have a  a finer scale moderately cheap ,

doesn't matter. Agree there but here um I wasn't sure what to write in.


doesn't matter. Agree there but here um I wasn't sure what to write in.

Well , I mean you 've written in  you 've written in what uh seems to be required like what else is  is do you want ?


Well , I mean you 've written in  you 've written in what uh seems to be required like what else is  is do you want ?

Well yeah. So here 's  here 's what 's permissible is that you can arrange so that the um the value of that is gonna have to be updated and n it 's not a belief update , right ? It 's  you took some actions , you spent money and stuff , so the update of that is gonna have to be essentially external to the belief - net. Right ?


Well yeah. So here 's  here 's what 's permissible is that you can arrange so that the um the value of that is gonna have to be updated and n it 's not a belief update , right ? It 's  you took some actions , you spent money and stuff , so the update of that is gonna have to be essentially external to the belief - net. Right ?

And then what you 're going to need is uh for the things that it influences. Well let 's  first of all let 's see if it does influence anything. And if it does influence anything then you 're gonna need something that converts from the  the number here to something that 's relevant to the decision there. So it could be ra they create different ranges that are relevant for different decisions or whatever  but for the moment this is just a node that is conditioned externally and might influence various things.


Well yeah. So here 's  here 's what 's permissible is that you can arrange so that the um the value of that is gonna have to be updated and n it 's not a belief update , right ? It 's  you took some actions , you spent money and stuff , so the update of that is gonna have to be essentially external to the belief - net. Right ?

And then what you 're going to need is uh for the things that it influences. Well let 's  first of all let 's see if it does influence anything. And if it does influence anything then you 're gonna need something that converts from the  the number here to something that 's relevant to the decision there. So it could be ra they create different ranges that are relevant for different decisions or whatever  but for the moment this is just a node that is conditioned externally and might influence various things.

Hmm. Yeah  this is where um OK anyways let 's forget it.


And then what you 're going to need is uh for the things that it influences. Well let 's  first of all let 's see if it does influence anything. And if it does influence anything then you 're gonna need something that converts from the  the number here to something that 's relevant to the decision there. So it could be ra they create different ranges that are relevant for different decisions or whatever  but for the moment this is just a node that is conditioned externally and might influence various things.

Hmm. Yeah  this is where um OK anyways let 's forget it.

Well that 's fine. Well anyway , go ahead.


Hmm. Yeah  this is where um OK anyways let 's forget it.

Well that 's fine. Well anyway , go ahead.

The other thing is that um every time that 's updated beliefs will have to be propagated but then the question is do you  do we wanna propagate beliefs every single time it 's updated or only when we need to ?


Well that 's fine. Well anyway , go ahead.

The other thing is that um every time that 's updated beliefs will have to be propagated but then the question is do you  do we wanna propagate beliefs every single time it 's updated or only when we need to ?

Yeah , that 's a good question. And uh does it have a lazy mode ? I don't remember.


The other thing is that um every time that 's updated beliefs will have to be propagated but then the question is do you  do we wanna propagate beliefs every single time it 's updated or only when we need to ?

Yeah , that 's a good question. And uh does it have a lazy mode ? I don't remember.

Uh Well , I mean , in Srini 's thing there was this thing  there was this um option like proper inferences which suggests that uh doesn't happen , automatically.


The other thing is that um every time that 's updated beliefs will have to be propagated but then the question is do you  do we wanna propagate beliefs every single time it 's updated or only when we need to ?

Yeah , that 's a good question. And uh does it have a lazy mode ? I don't remember.

Uh Well , I mean , in Srini 's thing there was this thing  there was this um option like proper inferences which suggests that uh doesn't happen , automatically.

Oh right. Yeah. S probably does. Yeah someone has to track that down , but I  but uh And  and  and I think  actually uh


Yeah , that 's a good question. And uh does it have a lazy mode ? I don't remember.

Uh Well , I mean , in Srini 's thing there was this thing  there was this um option like proper inferences which suggests that uh doesn't happen , automatically.

Oh right. Yeah. S probably does. Yeah someone has to track that down , but I  but uh And  and  and I think  actually uh


Uh Well , I mean , in Srini 's thing there was this thing  there was this um option like proper inferences which suggests that uh doesn't happen , automatically.

Oh right. Yeah. S probably does. Yeah someone has to track that down , but I  but uh And  and  and I think  actually uh

one of the we w items for the uh user home base uh should be uh essentially non - local. I they 're only there for the day and they don't have a place that they 're staying.


Oh right. Yeah. S probably does. Yeah someone has to track that down , but I  but uh And  and  and I think  actually uh

one of the we w items for the uh user home base uh should be uh essentially non - local. I they 're only there for the day and they don't have a place that they 're staying.


one of the we w items for the uh user home base uh should be uh essentially non - local. I they 're only there for the day and they don't have a place that they 're staying.

Oh just uh accidentally erased this , I  I just had values here such as uh um is he s we had in our list we had " Is he staying in our hotel ? " , " Is he staying with friends ? " , and so forth


Oh just uh accidentally erased this , I  I just had values here such as uh um is he s we had in our list we had " Is he staying in our hotel ? " , " Is he staying with friends ? " , and so forth


Oh just uh accidentally erased this , I  I just had values here such as uh um is he s we had in our list we had " Is he staying in our hotel ? " , " Is he staying with friends ? " , and so forth

So it 's clear where w w w where we are right now. So my suggestion is we just pick uh


So it 's clear where w w w where we are right now. So my suggestion is we just pick uh


So it 's clear where w w w where we are right now. So my suggestion is we just pick uh

one , you know one uh particular one of the uh well let 's do the first  first one let 's do the one that we sort of already think we did so w that was the  of the endpoint ?


one , you know one uh particular one of the uh well let 's do the first  first one let 's do the one that we sort of already think we did so w that was the  of the endpoint ?


What 's the difference between mode and endpoint ?


No , he has he hasn't filled them in yet , is what 's true.


No , he has he hasn't filled them in yet , is what 's true.

Did I or didn't I ?  Ah. Probably nothing done yet , oh I just did it on the upper ones , OK. Makes sense. OK , so this was EVA. Maybe we can think of more things , cross


Did I or didn't I ?  Ah. Probably nothing done yet , oh I just did it on the upper ones , OK. Makes sense. OK , so this was EVA. Maybe we can think of more things , cross


No no no , these are ju that 's just a point ,


No no no , these are ju that 's just a point ,

Well some of those are subsumed by approach.


Well some of those are subsumed by approach.

Would it be an endpoint if you were crossing over it ?


Would it be an endpoint if you were crossing over it ?

Yeah , would be a f for a given segment. You know , you  y you go  first go the town square


Yeah , would be a f for a given segment. You know , you  y you go  first go the town square

No , I mean , if you go to re you know if you go to Prague or whatever one of your  your key points that you have to do is cross the Charles Bridge and doesn't really matter which way you cross which  where you end up at the end but the part  the good part is walking over it , so.


Yeah , would be a f for a given segment. You know , you  y you go  first go the town square

No , I mean , if you go to re you know if you go to Prague or whatever one of your  your key points that you have to do is cross the Charles Bridge and doesn't really matter which way you cross which  where you end up at the end but the part  the good part is walking over it , so.

That 's subtle , but true. Anyway so let 's just leave it three  with three for now


No , I mean , if you go to re you know if you go to Prague or whatever one of your  your key points that you have to do is cross the Charles Bridge and doesn't really matter which way you cross which  where you end up at the end but the part  the good part is walking over it , so.

That 's subtle , but true. Anyway so let 's just leave it three  with three for now


No , I mean , if you go to re you know if you go to Prague or whatever one of your  your key points that you have to do is cross the Charles Bridge and doesn't really matter which way you cross which  where you end up at the end but the part  the good part is walking over it , so.

That 's subtle , but true. Anyway so let 's just leave it three  with three for now

and let 's see if we can get it linked up just to get ourselves started.


That 's subtle , but true. Anyway so let 's just leave it three  with three for now

and let 's see if we can get it linked up just to get ourselves started.


and let 's see if we can get it linked up just to get ourselves started.

You 'll see it  you 'll see something comes up immediately , that the reason I wanna do this.


and let 's see if we can get it linked up just to get ourselves started.

You 'll see it  you 'll see something comes up immediately , that the reason I wanna do this.

w well the uh user was uh definitely more likely to enter if he 's a local


You 'll see it  you 'll see something comes up immediately , that the reason I wanna do this.

w well the uh user was uh definitely more likely to enter if he 's a local


You 'll see it  you 'll see something comes up immediately , that the reason I wanna do this.

w well the uh user was uh definitely more likely to enter if he 's a local

more likely to view if he 's a tourist um and then of course we had the fact that given the fact that he 's thrifty and there will be admission then we get all these cross um


w well the uh user was uh definitely more likely to enter if he 's a local

more likely to view if he 's a tourist um and then of course we had the fact that given the fact that he 's thrifty and there will be admission then we get all these cross um

We did , but the three things w that  that it contributed to this in fact , the other two aren't up there. so one was the ontology


more likely to view if he 's a tourist um and then of course we had the fact that given the fact that he 's thrifty and there will be admission then we get all these cross um

We did , but the three things w that  that it contributed to this in fact , the other two aren't up there. so one was the ontology


We did , but the three things w that  that it contributed to this in fact , the other two aren't up there. so one was the ontology


And the  and the third thing we talked about was something from the discourse.


And the  and the third thing we talked about was something from the discourse.

OK , so this is w Right , so what w I  what we seem to need here , this is why it starts getting into the technical stuff


OK , so this is w Right , so what w I  what we seem to need here , this is why it starts getting into the technical stuff

the way we had been designing this , there were three intermediate nodes uh which were the endpoint decision as seen from the uh user model as seen from the ontology and as seen from the discourse. So each of those the way we had it designed , now we can change the design , but the design we had was there was a decision with the same three outcomes uh based on the th those three separate considerations


the way we had been designing this , there were three intermediate nodes uh which were the endpoint decision as seen from the uh user model as seen from the ontology and as seen from the discourse. So each of those the way we had it designed , now we can change the design , but the design we had was there was a decision with the same three outcomes uh based on the th those three separate considerations

so if we wanted to do that would have to put in uh three intermediate nodes


the way we had been designing this , there were three intermediate nodes uh which were the endpoint decision as seen from the uh user model as seen from the ontology and as seen from the discourse. So each of those the way we had it designed , now we can change the design , but the design we had was there was a decision with the same three outcomes uh based on the th those three separate considerations

so if we wanted to do that would have to put in uh three intermediate nodes

Uh we can load it up it you know very simple.


so if we wanted to do that would have to put in uh three intermediate nodes

Uh we can load it up it you know very simple.


so if we wanted to do that would have to put in uh three intermediate nodes

Uh we can load it up it you know very simple.

and then what you and I have to talk about is , OK if we 're doing that and they get combined somehow uh how do they get combined ? But the  they 're  they 're undoubtedly gonna be more things to worry about.


Uh we can load it up it you know very simple.

and then what you and I have to talk about is , OK if we 're doing that and they get combined somehow uh how do they get combined ? But the  they 're  they 're undoubtedly gonna be more things to worry about.

So this was adjusted for this one mode thing.


and then what you and I have to talk about is , OK if we 're doing that and they get combined somehow uh how do they get combined ? But the  they 're  they 're undoubtedly gonna be more things to worry about.

So this was adjusted for this one mode thing.


So this was adjusted for this one mode thing.

So that 's w w in our uh in  in Johno 's sort of pictogram everything that could contribute to whether a person wants to enter , view , or approach something.


So that 's w w in our uh in  in Johno 's sort of pictogram everything that could contribute to whether a person wants to enter , view , or approach something.

Oh , it was called mode , so this  this is m mode here means the same as endpoint.


Oh , it was called mode , so this  this is m mode here means the same as endpoint.

OK , why don't we ch can we change that ?


OK , why don't we ch can we change that ?


OK , why don't we ch can we change that ?

Alright. You know , but that was actually , yeah unfortunately that was a um kind of an intermediate versio that 's I don't think what we would currently do.


OK , why don't we ch can we change that ?

Alright. You know , but that was actually , yeah unfortunately that was a um kind of an intermediate versio that 's I don't think what we would currently do.

Can I ask about " slurred " and " angry " as inputs to this ?


Alright. You know , but that was actually , yeah unfortunately that was a um kind of an intermediate versio that 's I don't think what we would currently do.

Can I ask about " slurred " and " angry " as inputs to this ?


Can I ask about " slurred " and " angry " as inputs to this ?


If the  if the person talking is angry or slurs their speech they might be tired or , you know


Yeah. But that 's - that seems to , yeah. So  so my advice to do is  is get this down to what we think is actually likely to  to be a  a strong influence.


Yeah. But that 's - that seems to , yeah. So  so my advice to do is  is get this down to what we think is actually likely to  to be a  a strong influence.

But yeah , that was what he had in mind.


But yeah , that was what he had in mind.

So let 's think about this  this question of how do we wanna handle  so there 're two separate things. One is  uh at least two. One is how do we want to handle the notion of the ontology now what we talked about , and this is another technical thing Bhaskara , is uh can we arrange so that I think we can so that the belief - net itself has properties and the properties are filled in uh from on ontology items. So the  let 's take the case of the uh this endpoint thing , the notion was that if you had a few key properties like is this a tourist site , you know some kind of landmark is it a place of business uh is it something you physically could enter


So let 's think about this  this question of how do we wanna handle  so there 're two separate things. One is  uh at least two. One is how do we want to handle the notion of the ontology now what we talked about , and this is another technical thing Bhaskara , is uh can we arrange so that I think we can so that the belief - net itself has properties and the properties are filled in uh from on ontology items. So the  let 's take the case of the uh this endpoint thing , the notion was that if you had a few key properties like is this a tourist site , you know some kind of landmark is it a place of business uh is it something you physically could enter

OK , et cetera. So that there 'd be certain properties that would fit into the decision node and then again as part of the ou outer controlling conditioning of this thing those would be set , so that some somehow someone would find this word , look it up in the ontology , pull out these properties , put it into the belief - net , and then the decision would flow.


OK , et cetera. So that there 'd be certain properties that would fit into the decision node and then again as part of the ou outer controlling conditioning of this thing those would be set , so that some somehow someone would find this word , look it up in the ontology , pull out these properties , put it into the belief - net , and then the decision would flow.


OK , et cetera. So that there 'd be certain properties that would fit into the decision node and then again as part of the ou outer controlling conditioning of this thing those would be set , so that some somehow someone would find this word , look it up in the ontology , pull out these properties , put it into the belief - net , and then the decision would flow.

Seems to me that we 've sort of e em embedded a lot , em embedded a lot of these uh things we had in there previously in  in  in some of the other final decisions done here , for example if we would know that this thing is exhibiting something um


Seems to me that we 've sort of e em embedded a lot , em embedded a lot of these uh things we had in there previously in  in  in some of the other final decisions done here , for example if we would know that this thing is exhibiting something um


Seems to me that we 've sort of e em embedded a lot , em embedded a lot of these uh things we had in there previously in  in  in some of the other final decisions done here , for example if we would know that this thing is exhibiting something um

if it 's exhibiting itself it is a landmark ,


if it 's exhibiting itself it is a landmark ,


if it is exhibiting pictures or sculptures and stuff like this , then it 's more likely to be entered.


if it is exhibiting pictures or sculptures and stuff like this , then it 's more likely to be entered.

I uh that 's  I think that 's completely right and um I think that 's good , right ? So what  what that says is that we might be able to uh take and in particular so  so the ones we talked about were uh exhibiting and selling


I uh that 's  I think that 's completely right and um I think that 's good , right ? So what  what that says is that we might be able to uh take and in particular so  so the ones we talked about were uh exhibiting and selling

If it 's closed one probably won't enter. Or if it 's not accessible to a tourist ever the likelihood of that person actually wanting to enter it ,


If it 's closed one probably won't enter. Or if it 's not accessible to a tourist ever the likelihood of that person actually wanting to enter it ,


If it 's closed one probably won't enter. Or if it 's not accessible to a tourist ever the likelihood of that person actually wanting to enter it ,

Alright. So let me suggest this. Uh w could you move those up about halfway. Uh The ones that you th And selling I guess.


Alright. So let me suggest this. Uh w could you move those up about halfway. Uh The ones that you th And selling I guess.

Yeah , all  all of these if it 's fixing things selling things , or servicing things


Alright. So let me suggest this. Uh w could you move those up about halfway. Uh The ones that you th And selling I guess.

Yeah , all  all of these if it 's fixing things selling things , or servicing things

Right. So here  here 's what it looks like to me. is that you want an intermediate structure which i uh is essentially the or of uh for this purpose of  of uh selling , f fixing , or servicing. So that it uh that is , for certain purposes , it becomes important but for this kind of purpose uh one of these places is quite like the other. Does that seem right ? So we di


Alright. So let me suggest this. Uh w could you move those up about halfway. Uh The ones that you th And selling I guess.

Yeah , all  all of these if it 's fixing things selling things , or servicing things

Right. So here  here 's what it looks like to me. is that you want an intermediate structure which i uh is essentially the or of uh for this purpose of  of uh selling , f fixing , or servicing. So that it uh that is , for certain purposes , it becomes important but for this kind of purpose uh one of these places is quite like the other. Does that seem right ? So we di

Basic you 're basically just merging those for just the sake of endpoint decision ?


Yeah , all  all of these if it 's fixing things selling things , or servicing things

Right. So here  here 's what it looks like to me. is that you want an intermediate structure which i uh is essentially the or of uh for this purpose of  of uh selling , f fixing , or servicing. So that it uh that is , for certain purposes , it becomes important but for this kind of purpose uh one of these places is quite like the other. Does that seem right ? So we di

Basic you 're basically just merging those for just the sake of endpoint decision ?


Right. So here  here 's what it looks like to me. is that you want an intermediate structure which i uh is essentially the or of uh for this purpose of  of uh selling , f fixing , or servicing. So that it uh that is , for certain purposes , it becomes important but for this kind of purpose uh one of these places is quite like the other. Does that seem right ? So we di

Basic you 're basically just merging those for just the sake of endpoint decision ?


Basic you 're basically just merging those for just the sake of endpoint decision ?


So if  well it may be more than endpoint decisions , so the idea would be that you might wanna merge those three


So if  well it may be more than endpoint decisions , so the idea would be that you might wanna merge those three

Yeah. Eh ser s uh selling , fixing , and servicing.


Yeah. Eh ser s uh selling , fixing , and servicing.

What ex um and so either those is true f or false ?


Yeah. Eh ser s uh selling , fixing , and servicing.

What ex um and so either those is true f or false ?

Uh Uh well it  it  i here 's where it gets a little tricky.


What ex um and so either those is true f or false ?

Uh Uh well it  it  i here 's where it gets a little tricky.


What ex um and so either those is true f or false ?

Uh Uh well it  it  i here 's where it gets a little tricky.

Uh from the belief - net point of view it is from another point of view of course it 's interest it 's  it 's important to know what it 's selling or servicing and so forth.


Uh Uh well it  it  i here 's where it gets a little tricky.

Uh from the belief - net point of view it is from another point of view of course it 's interest it 's  it 's important to know what it 's selling or servicing and so forth.


Uh from the belief - net point of view it is from another point of view of course it 's interest it 's  it 's important to know what it 's selling or servicing and so forth.

So for this decision it 's just uh true or false


So for this decision it 's just uh true or false

and in th this is a case where the or seems just what you want.


and in th this is a case where the or seems just what you want.

That  that if any of those things is true then it 's the kind of place that you uh


That  that if any of those things is true then it 's the kind of place that you uh


That  that if any of those things is true then it 's the kind of place that you uh

So you just wanna have them all pointing to a summary thing ?


So you just wanna have them all pointing to a summary thing ?

You could , yeah. Yeah , so let 's do that. No no , no eh to  to an inter no , an intermediate node.


You could , yeah. Yeah , so let 's do that. No no , no eh to  to an inter no , an intermediate node.


So are they the  is it the kind of object that sells , fixes , or services things ?


So are they the  is it the kind of object that sells , fixes , or services things ?

Well , o open up object type and let 's see what its values are.


So are they the  is it the kind of object that sells , fixes , or services things ?

Well , o open up object type and let 's see what its values are.

Oh I just created it , it has none so far.


So are they the  is it the kind of object that sells , fixes , or services things ?

Well , o open up object type and let 's see what its values are.

Oh I just created it , it has none so far.

Oh , well OK first of all it 's not objects , we called them entities , right ?


Well , o open up object type and let 's see what its values are.

Oh I just created it , it has none so far.

Oh , well OK first of all it 's not objects , we called them entities , right ?


Oh I just created it , it has none so far.

Oh , well OK first of all it 's not objects , we called them entities , right ?


Oh , well OK first of all it 's not objects , we called them entities , right ?

Yeah , I w I was just gonna commercial action inside where people p


Yeah , I w I was just gonna commercial action inside where people p

Well couldn't I do  let 's do commercial uh landmark and


Yeah , I w I was just gonna commercial action inside where people p

Well couldn't I do  let 's do commercial uh landmark and

Well accessible I think is different cuz that 's tempor that  that varies temporally ,


Well couldn't I do  let 's do commercial uh landmark and

Well accessible I think is different cuz that 's tempor that  that varies temporally ,


Well accessible I think is different cuz that 's tempor that  that varies temporally ,


I would call that a service , but  but I don't know.


I would call that a service , but  but I don't know.

Say w w well it 's co I would s a a again for this purpose I think it 's commercial. Someplace you want to go in to do some kind of business.


Say w w well it 's co I would s a a again for this purpose I think it 's commercial. Someplace you want to go in to do some kind of business.

Um what does the underscore - T at the end of each of those things signify ?


Say w w well it 's co I would s a a again for this purpose I think it 's commercial. Someplace you want to go in to do some kind of business.

Um what does the underscore - T at the end of each of those things signify ?

Um things. So places that service things sell things or fix things and pe places that e exhibit things.


Um what does the underscore - T at the end of each of those things signify ?

Um things. So places that service things sell things or fix things and pe places that e exhibit things.

Uh - huh. OK. OK. That also points to entity type I guess.


Um what does the underscore - T at the end of each of those things signify ?

Um things. So places that service things sell things or fix things and pe places that e exhibit things.

Uh - huh. OK. OK. That also points to entity type I guess.

So we 're deriving um this  the  this feature of whether the  the main action at this place happens inside or outside or what we 're deriving that from what kind of activity is done there ? Couldn't you have it as just a primitive feature of the entity ?


Um things. So places that service things sell things or fix things and pe places that e exhibit things.

Uh - huh. OK. OK. That also points to entity type I guess.

So we 're deriving um this  the  this feature of whether the  the main action at this place happens inside or outside or what we 're deriving that from what kind of activity is done there ? Couldn't you have it as just a primitive feature of the entity ?

Well you could , that 's a  that 's a choice.


Uh - huh. OK. OK. That also points to entity type I guess.

So we 're deriving um this  the  this feature of whether the  the main action at this place happens inside or outside or what we 're deriving that from what kind of activity is done there ? Couldn't you have it as just a primitive feature of the entity ?

Well you could , that 's a  that 's a choice.


So we 're deriving um this  the  this feature of whether the  the main action at this place happens inside or outside or what we 're deriving that from what kind of activity is done there ? Couldn't you have it as just a primitive feature of the entity ?

Well you could , that 's a  that 's a choice.


Well you could , that 's a  that 's a choice.

I mean it seems like that 's much more reliable cuz you could have outdoor places that sell things and you know indoor places that do something else


I mean it seems like that 's much more reliable cuz you could have outdoor places that sell things and you know indoor places that do something else

Yeah , the problem with it is that it sort of putting in a feature just for one decision ,


I mean it seems like that 's much more reliable cuz you could have outdoor places that sell things and you know indoor places that do something else

Yeah , the problem with it is that it sort of putting in a feature just for one decision ,

now w we may wind up having to do that this i anyway , this i


Yeah , the problem with it is that it sort of putting in a feature just for one decision ,

now w we may wind up having to do that this i anyway , this i


now w we may wind up having to do that this i anyway , this i

at a mental level that 's what we we 're gonna have to sort out.


at a mental level that 's what we we 're gonna have to sort out.

So , you know what does this look like , what are  what are uh intermediate things that are worth computing , what are the features we need in order to make all these decisions


So , you know what does this look like , what are  what are uh intermediate things that are worth computing , what are the features we need in order to make all these decisions

and what 's the best way to organize this so that um it 's clean and  and consistent and all that sort of stuff.


So , you know what does this look like , what are  what are uh intermediate things that are worth computing , what are the features we need in order to make all these decisions

and what 's the best way to organize this so that um it 's clean and  and consistent and all that sort of stuff.

OK. I 'm just thinking about how people , human beings who know about places and places to go and so on would store this and it would probably  you wouldn't just sort of remember that they sell stuff and then deduce from that that it must be going on inside or something.


and what 's the best way to organize this so that um it 's clean and  and consistent and all that sort of stuff.

OK. I 'm just thinking about how people , human beings who know about places and places to go and so on would store this and it would probably  you wouldn't just sort of remember that they sell stuff and then deduce from that that it must be going on inside or something.

Well I think an entity maybe should be regard as a vector of several possible things , it can either em do s do sell things , fix things , service things , exhibit things , it can be a landmark at the same time as doing these things ,


OK. I 'm just thinking about how people , human beings who know about places and places to go and so on would store this and it would probably  you wouldn't just sort of remember that they sell stuff and then deduce from that that it must be going on inside or something.

Well I think an entity maybe should be regard as a vector of several possible things , it can either em do s do sell things , fix things , service things , exhibit things , it can be a landmark at the same time as doing these things ,

it 's not either or mmm certainly a place can be a hotel and a famous site.


Well I think an entity maybe should be regard as a vector of several possible things , it can either em do s do sell things , fix things , service things , exhibit things , it can be a landmark at the same time as doing these things ,

it 's not either or mmm certainly a place can be a hotel and a famous site.


it 's not either or mmm certainly a place can be a hotel and a famous site.

Many come to mind. Things can be generally um a landmark and be accessible. IE a  a castle or can be a landmark a or not accessible , some statue


Many come to mind. Things can be generally um a landmark and be accessible. IE a  a castle or can be a landmark a or not accessible , some statue


Many come to mind. Things can be generally um a landmark and be accessible. IE a  a castle or can be a landmark a or not accessible , some statue

OK. Anyway so let me suggest you do something else. Uh which is to get rid  get rid of that l long link between who  the user and the endpoint.


OK. Anyway so let me suggest you do something else. Uh which is to get rid  get rid of that l long link between who  the user and the endpoint.


OK. Anyway so let me suggest you do something else. Uh which is to get rid  get rid of that l long link between who  the user and the endpoint.

No no , I don't want the link there at all.


No no , I don't want the link there at all.

Because what we 're gonna want is an intermediate thing which is uh the endpoint decisi the endpoint decision based o on the user models , so what we  we  what we talked about is three separate endpoint decisions , so let 's make a new node


Because what we 're gonna want is an intermediate thing which is uh the endpoint decisi the endpoint decision based o on the user models , so what we  we  what we talked about is three separate endpoint decisions , so let 's make a new node

Just as a suggestion maybe you could " save as " to keep your old one nice and clean and so you can mess with this one.


Because what we 're gonna want is an intermediate thing which is uh the endpoint decisi the endpoint decision based o on the user models , so what we  we  what we talked about is three separate endpoint decisions , so let 's make a new node

Just as a suggestion maybe you could " save as " to keep your old one nice and clean and so you can mess with this one.

Mmm. The old one was not that not that important , I think but


Just as a suggestion maybe you could " save as " to keep your old one nice and clean and so you can mess with this one.

Mmm. The old one was not that not that important , I think but


Mmm. The old one was not that not that important , I think but

Well the  Isn't there a " save as " inside of java base ?


Well the  Isn't there a " save as " inside of java base ?


Well the  Isn't there a " save as " inside of java base ?

copy it somewhere else. This was user something


copy it somewhere else. This was user something


copy it somewhere else. This was user something

uh let 's p put it this  let 's do endpoint underbar - U.


uh let 's p put it this  let 's do endpoint underbar - U.


let 's say underbar - U , so that 's the endpoint decision uh as seen through the


let 's say underbar - U , so that 's the endpoint decision uh as seen through the

Right. So let 's  let 's actually yeah so lin you can link that up to the


Right. So let 's  let 's actually yeah so lin you can link that up to the

uh yeah , so that , I guess that 's endpoint uh


uh yeah , so that , I guess that 's endpoint uh

underscore - E for entity , and we may change all this , but. Right. And


uh yeah , so that , I guess that 's endpoint uh

underscore - E for entity , and we may change all this , but. Right. And

OK , shouldn't I be able to move them all ? No. Or  ? Can I ? Where ? What ?


underscore - E for entity , and we may change all this , but. Right. And

OK , shouldn't I be able to move them all ? No. Or  ? Can I ? Where ? What ?

Oh I d eh I don't know. Actually , I guess the easiest thing would move  mo move the endpoint , well , go ahead. Just do whatever.


OK , shouldn't I be able to move them all ? No. Or  ? Can I ? Where ? What ?

Oh I d eh I don't know. Actually , I guess the easiest thing would move  mo move the endpoint , well , go ahead. Just do whatever.


Oh I d eh I don't know. Actually , I guess the easiest thing would move  mo move the endpoint , well , go ahead. Just do whatever.


I think you have to be in move mode before


I think you have to be in move mode before

So now we 're looking for user related things that um


So now we 're looking for user related things that um

Yeah. And uh maybe th maybe it 's just one who is the user , I don't know , maybe  maybe there 's more.


So now we 're looking for user related things that um

Yeah. And uh maybe th maybe it 's just one who is the user , I don't know , maybe  maybe there 's more.

Well if he 's usi if he 's in a car right now what was that people with Harry drove the car into the cafe


Yeah. And uh maybe th maybe it 's just one who is the user , I don't know , maybe  maybe there 's more.

Well if he 's usi if he 's in a car right now what was that people with Harry drove the car into the cafe

Never mind. Uh anyway , this is crude. Now but the  now so  so  but then the question is uh so  and  and we assume that some of these properties would come indirectly through an ontology , but then we had this third idea of input from the discourse.


Well if he 's usi if he 's in a car right now what was that people with Harry drove the car into the cafe

Never mind. Uh anyway , this is crude. Now but the  now so  so  but then the question is uh so  and  and we assume that some of these properties would come indirectly through an ontology , but then we had this third idea of input from the discourse.


Never mind. Uh anyway , this is crude. Now but the  now so  so  but then the question is uh so  and  and we assume that some of these properties would come indirectly through an ontology , but then we had this third idea of input from the discourse.


Well , maybe , I again , I d well , OK , put em in but what we 're gonna wanna do is actually uh


Well , maybe , I again , I d well , OK , put em in but what we 're gonna wanna do is actually uh

Here this was one of my problems we have the user interest is a  is a vector of five hundred values , so um That 's from the user model ,


Here this was one of my problems we have the user interest is a  is a vector of five hundred values , so um That 's from the user model ,

mm - hmm , no not levels of interest but things you can be interested in.


mm - hmm , no not levels of interest but things you can be interested in.

somebody else has built this user model.


somebody else has built this user model.

Gothic churches versus Baroque townhouses versus


somebody else has built this user model.

Gothic churches versus Baroque townhouses versus

right. So why is it oh it , so it 's like a vector of five hundred one 's or zero 's ?


Gothic churches versus Baroque townhouses versus

right. So why is it oh it , so it 's like a vector of five hundred one 's or zero 's ?


Gothic churches versus Baroque townhouses versus

right. So why is it oh it , so it 's like a vector of five hundred one 's or zero 's ?

Like for each thing are we  are you interested in it or not ?


right. So why is it oh it , so it 's like a vector of five hundred one 's or zero 's ?

Like for each thing are we  are you interested in it or not ?


Like for each thing are we  are you interested in it or not ?


OK. So uh you cou and so here let me give you two ways to handle that. Alright ? One is um you could ignore it. But the other thing you could do is have an  and this will give you the flavor of the  of what you could have a node that 's  that was a measure of the match between the object 's feature , you know , the match between the object the entity , I 'm sorry and the user.


OK. So uh you cou and so here let me give you two ways to handle that. Alright ? One is um you could ignore it. But the other thing you could do is have an  and this will give you the flavor of the  of what you could have a node that 's  that was a measure of the match between the object 's feature , you know , the match between the object the entity , I 'm sorry and the user.

So you could have a k a " fit " node and again that would have to be computed by someone else


So you could have a k a " fit " node and again that would have to be computed by someone else


Mm - hmm. And  and should we say that this interests eh affects the likelihood of  of entering ?


Mm - hmm. And  and should we say that this interests eh affects the likelihood of  of entering ?

Yeah. And also if it 's an expensive place to enter , this may also


Yeah. And also if it 's an expensive place to enter , this may also


Yeah. And also if it 's an expensive place to enter , this may also

User schedule. " Do I have time to go in and climb all the way to the top of the Koelner Dome  or do I just have to  " " time to take a picture of the outside ? "


User schedule. " Do I have time to go in and climb all the way to the top of the Koelner Dome  or do I just have to  " " time to take a picture of the outside ? "


User schedule. " Do I have time to go in and climb all the way to the top of the Koelner Dome  or do I just have to  " " time to take a picture of the outside ? "

It seems like everything in a user model a affects


It seems like everything in a user model a affects

Well that 's what we don't wanna do , see that  se cuz then we get into huge combinatorics and stuff like that


Well that 's what we don't wanna do , see that  se cuz then we get into huge combinatorics and stuff like that


Cuz if the , I mean , and if the user is tired , the user state ,


Cuz if the , I mean , and if the user is tired , the user state ,

right , it would affect stuff , but I can't see why e anything w everything in the model wouldn't be


right , it would affect stuff , but I can't see why e anything w everything in the model wouldn't be


right , it would affect stuff , but I can't see why e anything w everything in the model wouldn't be

Well , that  that 's  we can't do that , so we we 're gonna have to


Well , that  that 's  we can't do that , so we we 're gonna have to


Well , that  that 's  we can't do that , so we we 're gonna have to

but this is a good discussion , we 're gonna have to somehow figure out uh some way to encapsulate that uh so if there 's some general notion of for example the uh relation to the time to do this to the amount of time the guy has or something like that is  is the uh compatibility with his current state , so that 's what you 'd have to do , you 'd have to get it down to something which uh was itself relatively compact , so it could be compatibility with his current state which would include his money and his time and  and his energy


Well , that  that 's  we can't do that , so we we 're gonna have to

but this is a good discussion , we 're gonna have to somehow figure out uh some way to encapsulate that uh so if there 's some general notion of for example the uh relation to the time to do this to the amount of time the guy has or something like that is  is the uh compatibility with his current state , so that 's what you 'd have to do , you 'd have to get it down to something which uh was itself relatively compact , so it could be compatibility with his current state which would include his money and his time and  and his energy

Yeah , just seems like it 'd push the problem back a level.


but this is a good discussion , we 're gonna have to somehow figure out uh some way to encapsulate that uh so if there 's some general notion of for example the uh relation to the time to do this to the amount of time the guy has or something like that is  is the uh compatibility with his current state , so that 's what you 'd have to do , you 'd have to get it down to something which uh was itself relatively compact , so it could be compatibility with his current state which would include his money and his time and  and his energy

Yeah , just seems like it 'd push the problem back a level.


Yeah , just seems like it 'd push the problem back a level.


No but , it 's more than that , like the  the more sort of you break it up like because if you have everything pointing to one node it 's like exponential whereas if you like keep breaking it up more and more it 's not exponential anymore.


No but , it 's more than that , like the  the more sort of you break it up like because if you have everything pointing to one node it 's like exponential whereas if you like keep breaking it up more and more it 's not exponential anymore.

So it yeah , there are two advantages. That 's tha there 's one technical one


So it yeah , there are two advantages. That 's tha there 's one technical one

S so we 'd basically be doing subgrouping ? Subgrouping , basically into mo


S so we 'd basically be doing subgrouping ? Subgrouping , basically into mo


S so we 'd basically be doing subgrouping ? Subgrouping , basically into mo

so basically make it more tree like going backwards ?


so basically make it more tree like going backwards ?


so basically make it more tree like going backwards ?

Right. But it  there 's two advantages , one is the technical one that you don't wind up with such big exponential uh CBT 's ,


Right. But it  there 's two advantages , one is the technical one that you don't wind up with such big exponential uh CBT 's ,


Right. But it  there 's two advantages , one is the technical one that you don't wind up with such big exponential uh CBT 's ,

the other is it can be  it presumably can be used for multiple decisions.


the other is it can be  it presumably can be used for multiple decisions.

So that if you have this idea of the compatibility with the requirements of an action to the state of the user one could well imagine that that was u


So that if you have this idea of the compatibility with the requirements of an action to the state of the user one could well imagine that that was u

not only is it sim is it cleaner to compute it separately but it could be that it 's used in multiple places. Anyway th so in general this is the design , this is really design problem.


not only is it sim is it cleaner to compute it separately but it could be that it 's used in multiple places. Anyway th so in general this is the design , this is really design problem.

OK , you 've got a signal , a d set of decisions um how do we do this ?


not only is it sim is it cleaner to compute it separately but it could be that it 's used in multiple places. Anyway th so in general this is the design , this is really design problem.

OK , you 've got a signal , a d set of decisions um how do we do this ?

What do I have under user state anyhow cuz I named that already something. Oh that 's tired , fresh , yeah. Maybe should be renamed into physical state.


OK , you 've got a signal , a d set of decisions um how do we do this ?

What do I have under user state anyhow cuz I named that already something. Oh that 's tired , fresh , yeah. Maybe should be renamed into physical state.


What do I have under user state anyhow cuz I named that already something. Oh that 's tired , fresh , yeah. Maybe should be renamed into physical state.


What 's th what we 're talking about is compatibility. Uh or something , I don't know , but.


What 's th what we 're talking about is compatibility. Uh or something , I don't know , but.

I guess the  the question uh is It 's hard for me to imagine how everything wouldn't just contribute to user state again. Or user compatibility.


What 's th what we 're talking about is compatibility. Uh or something , I don't know , but.

I guess the  the question uh is It 's hard for me to imagine how everything wouldn't just contribute to user state again. Or user compatibility.

Oh but the thing is that we uh uh we had some things that uh


I guess the  the question uh is It 's hard for me to imagine how everything wouldn't just contribute to user state again. Or user compatibility.

Oh but the thing is that we uh uh we had some things that uh


Oh but the thing is that we uh uh we had some things that uh

The user interests and the user who  who  who the user is are completely apart from the fact whether he is tired broke


The user interests and the user who  who  who the user is are completely apart from the fact whether he is tired broke

Sure , but other  I thought though the node we 're creating right now is user compatibility to the current action , right ?


The user interests and the user who  who  who the user is are completely apart from the fact whether he is tired broke

Sure , but other  I thought though the node we 're creating right now is user compatibility to the current action , right ?

Seems like everything in the user model would contribute to whether or not the user was compatible with something.


Sure , but other  I thought though the node we 're creating right now is user compatibility to the current action , right ?

Seems like everything in the user model would contribute to whether or not the user was compatible with something.

Uh maybe not. I mean the  that 's the  the issue is um would Even if it was true in some abstract general sense it might not be true in terms of the information we actually had and can make use of. And anyway we 're gonna have to find some way to cl uh get this sufficiently simple to make it feasible.


Seems like everything in the user model would contribute to whether or not the user was compatible with something.

Uh maybe not. I mean the  that 's the  the issue is um would Even if it was true in some abstract general sense it might not be true in terms of the information we actually had and can make use of. And anyway we 're gonna have to find some way to cl uh get this sufficiently simple to make it feasible.

Maybe um if we look at the  if we split it up again into sort of um if we look at the uh the endpoint again we  we said that for each of these things there are certain preconditions so you can only enter a place if you are not too tired to do so and also eh have the money to do so if it costs something so if you can afford it and perform it is preconditions. Viewing usually is cheap or free.


Uh maybe not. I mean the  that 's the  the issue is um would Even if it was true in some abstract general sense it might not be true in terms of the information we actually had and can make use of. And anyway we 're gonna have to find some way to cl uh get this sufficiently simple to make it feasible.

Maybe um if we look at the  if we split it up again into sort of um if we look at the uh the endpoint again we  we said that for each of these things there are certain preconditions so you can only enter a place if you are not too tired to do so and also eh have the money to do so if it costs something so if you can afford it and perform it is preconditions. Viewing usually is cheap or free.


Maybe um if we look at the  if we split it up again into sort of um if we look at the uh the endpoint again we  we said that for each of these things there are certain preconditions so you can only enter a place if you are not too tired to do so and also eh have the money to do so if it costs something so if you can afford it and perform it is preconditions. Viewing usually is cheap or free.

Well , with the way we 're defining it I think yeah.


Well , with the way we 're defining it I think yeah.

W w but that eh viewing it without ent yeah view w with our definition of view it 's free cuz you


W w but that eh viewing it without ent yeah view w with our definition of view it 's free cuz you

Well what about the Grand Canyon , right ? No , never mind. I mean are there  are there large things that you would have to pay to get up close to like , I mean never mind , not in the current


Well what about the Grand Canyon , right ? No , never mind. I mean are there  are there large things that you would have to pay to get up close to like , I mean never mind , not in the current


Well what about the Grand Canyon , right ? No , never mind. I mean are there  are there large things that you would have to pay to get up close to like , I mean never mind , not in the current

Eh almost by definition um paying involves entering ,


Eh almost by definition um paying involves entering ,


Right. Uh So let me suggest we switch to another one , I mean clearly there 's more work to be done on this


Right. Uh So let me suggest we switch to another one , I mean clearly there 's more work to be done on this

but I think it 's gonna be more instructive to  to think about uh other decisions that we need to make in path land. And what they 're gonna look like.


Right. Uh So let me suggest we switch to another one , I mean clearly there 's more work to be done on this

but I think it 's gonna be more instructive to  to think about uh other decisions that we need to make in path land. And what they 're gonna look like.

So you can save this one as and open up the old one , right and  and then everything would be clean. You could do it again.


but I think it 's gonna be more instructive to  to think about uh other decisions that we need to make in path land. And what they 're gonna look like.

So you can save this one as and open up the old one , right and  and then everything would be clean. You could do it again.

Why , I think it 's worth saving this one but I think I 'd  I 'd like to keep this one


So you can save this one as and open up the old one , right and  and then everything would be clean. You could do it again.

Why , I think it 's worth saving this one but I think I 'd  I 'd like to keep this one

cuz I wanna see if  if we 're gonna reuse any of this stuff.


Why , I think it 's worth saving this one but I think I 'd  I 'd like to keep this one

cuz I wanna see if  if we 're gonna reuse any of this stuff.


cuz I wanna see if  if we 're gonna reuse any of this stuff.


cuz I wanna see if  if we 're gonna reuse any of this stuff.

Well you tell me , so in terms of the uh planner what 's  what 's a good one to do ?


Well you tell me , so in terms of the uh planner what 's  what 's a good one to do ?

Well let 's  th this go there or not I think is a good one.


Well you tell me , so in terms of the uh planner what 's  what 's a good one to do ?

Well let 's  th this go there or not I think is a good one.

Is a very basic one. So what makes things more likely that


Well let 's  th this go there or not I think is a good one.

Is a very basic one. So what makes things more likely that

Well the fir see the first thing is , getting back to thing we left out of the other is the actual discourse.


Is a very basic one. So what makes things more likely that

Well the fir see the first thing is , getting back to thing we left out of the other is the actual discourse.


Is a very basic one. So what makes things more likely that

Well the fir see the first thing is , getting back to thing we left out of the other is the actual discourse.

So Keith this is gonna get into your world because uh we 're gonna want to know you know , which constructions indicate various of these properties


Well the fir see the first thing is , getting back to thing we left out of the other is the actual discourse.

So Keith this is gonna get into your world because uh we 're gonna want to know you know , which constructions indicate various of these properties


So Keith this is gonna get into your world because uh we 're gonna want to know you know , which constructions indicate various of these properties

s and so I  I don't yet know how to do this , I guess we 're gonna wind up pulling out uh discourse properties like we have object properties and we don't know what they are yet.


s and so I  I don't yet know how to do this , I guess we 're gonna wind up pulling out uh discourse properties like we have object properties and we don't know what they are yet.

So that  that the Go - there decision will have a node from uh discourse , and I guess why don't we just stick a discourse thing up there to be as a placeholder for


s and so I  I don't yet know how to do this , I guess we 're gonna wind up pulling out uh discourse properties like we have object properties and we don't know what they are yet.

So that  that the Go - there decision will have a node from uh discourse , and I guess why don't we just stick a discourse thing up there to be as a placeholder for

We  we also had discourse features of course for the endpoint.


So that  that the Go - there decision will have a node from uh discourse , and I guess why don't we just stick a discourse thing up there to be as a placeholder for

We  we also had discourse features of course for the endpoint.


We  we also had discourse features of course for the endpoint.


and so again re that 's completely correct , we have the user model , the situation model here , we don't have the discourse model here yet. Much the same way as we didn't  we don't have the ontology here.


and so again re that 's completely correct , we have the user model , the situation model here , we don't have the discourse model here yet. Much the same way as we didn't  we don't have the ontology here.

Well the ontology we sort of said we would pull these various kinds of properties from the ontology like exhibiting , selling , and so forth.


Well the ontology we sort of said we would pull these various kinds of properties from the ontology like exhibiting , selling , and so forth.


But the discourse we don't have it represented at all yet.


But the discourse we don't have it represented at all yet.

Yeah. Um This be specific for second year ? Um And  and we probably will have uh something like a discourse for endpoint.


But the discourse we don't have it represented at all yet.

Yeah. Um This be specific for second year ? Um And  and we probably will have uh something like a discourse for endpoint.

But if we do it 'll have the three values.


Yeah. Um This be specific for second year ? Um And  and we probably will have uh something like a discourse for endpoint.

But if we do it 'll have the three values.

It 'll have the EVA values if  if we have it.


But if we do it 'll have the three values.

It 'll have the EVA values if  if we have it.

Yeah. Yeah. OK just for starters and here discourse um


It 'll have the EVA values if  if we have it.

Yeah. Yeah. OK just for starters and here discourse um

For Go - there , probably is true and false , let 's say. That 's what we talked about.


It 'll have the EVA values if  if we have it.

Yeah. Yeah. OK just for starters and here discourse um

For Go - there , probably is true and false , let 's say. That 's what we talked about.

um well , I think um we 're looking at the  the little data that we have , so people say how do I get to the castle and this usually means they wanna go there.


Yeah. Yeah. OK just for starters and here discourse um

For Go - there , probably is true and false , let 's say. That 's what we talked about.

um well , I think um we 're looking at the  the little data that we have , so people say how do I get to the castle and this usually means they wanna go there.


For Go - there , probably is true and false , let 's say. That 's what we talked about.

um well , I think um we 're looking at the  the little data that we have , so people say how do I get to the castle and this usually means they wanna go there.

So this should sort of push it in one direction


um well , I think um we 're looking at the  the little data that we have , so people say how do I get to the castle and this usually means they wanna go there.

So this should sort of push it in one direction


So this should sort of push it in one direction

however people also sometimes say how do I get there in order to find out how to get there without wanting to go there.


however people also sometimes say how do I get there in order to find out how to get there without wanting to go there.


because they wanna know where it is but in most cases they probably


because they wanna know where it is but in most cases they probably

Yeah , but that doesn't change the fact that you 're  you want these two values.


because they wanna know where it is but in most cases they probably

Yeah , but that doesn't change the fact that you 're  you want these two values.

Oh yeah , true. So this is sort of some external thing that takes all the discourse stuff and then says here it 's either  yep , yay , A , or nay. Yeah. OK ?


because they wanna know where it is but in most cases they probably

Yeah , but that doesn't change the fact that you 're  you want these two values.

Oh yeah , true. So this is sort of some external thing that takes all the discourse stuff and then says here it 's either  yep , yay , A , or nay. Yeah. OK ?

And they 'll be a y uh , a user Go - there and maybe that 's all , I don't know.


Yeah , but that doesn't change the fact that you 're  you want these two values.

Oh yeah , true. So this is sort of some external thing that takes all the discourse stuff and then says here it 's either  yep , yay , A , or nay. Yeah. OK ?

And they 'll be a y uh , a user Go - there and maybe that 's all , I don't know.

Situation Go - there , I mean , because it 's  whether it 's open or not.


Oh yeah , true. So this is sort of some external thing that takes all the discourse stuff and then says here it 's either  yep , yay , A , or nay. Yeah. OK ?

And they 'll be a y uh , a user Go - there and maybe that 's all , I don't know.

Situation Go - there , I mean , because it 's  whether it 's open or not.


And they 'll be a y uh , a user Go - there and maybe that 's all , I don't know.

Situation Go - there , I mean , because it 's  whether it 's open or not.


Situation Go - there , I mean , because it 's  whether it 's open or not.


But that now that kind of um what 's the word


But that now that kind of um what 's the word

um the  that interacts with the uh EVA thing if they just wanna view it then it 's fine to go there when it 's closed whereas if they want to um


um the  that interacts with the uh EVA thing if they just wanna view it then it 's fine to go there when it 's closed whereas if they want to um


um the  that interacts with the uh EVA thing if they just wanna view it then it 's fine to go there when it 's closed whereas if they want to um

Right , so that 's  that 's where it starts getting to be uh uh essentially more interesting , so what uh Bhaskara says which is completely right is if you know that they 're only going to view it then it doesn't matter whether it 's closed or not


Right , so that 's  that 's where it starts getting to be uh uh essentially more interesting , so what uh Bhaskara says which is completely right is if you know that they 're only going to view it then it doesn't matter whether it 's closed or not


Right , so that 's  that 's where it starts getting to be uh uh essentially more interesting , so what uh Bhaskara says which is completely right is if you know that they 're only going to view it then it doesn't matter whether it 's closed or not

in terms of uh uh you know , whether  whether you wanna go there.


in terms of uh uh you know , whether  whether you wanna go there.


It does matter though if there 's like a strike or riot or something.


It does matter though if there 's like a strike or riot or something.

Absolutely there are other situational things that do matter.


It does matter though if there 's like a strike or riot or something.

Absolutely there are other situational things that do matter.

Right. So yeah , that 's what I said just having one situational node may not be enough because this  that node by itself wouldn't distinguish


It does matter though if there 's like a strike or riot or something.

Absolutely there are other situational things that do matter.

Right. So yeah , that 's what I said just having one situational node may not be enough because this  that node by itself wouldn't distinguish

Well i i it can have di various values. Yeah , but we eh you  you 're right it might not be enough.


Absolutely there are other situational things that do matter.

Right. So yeah , that 's what I said just having one situational node may not be enough because this  that node by itself wouldn't distinguish

Well i i it can have di various values. Yeah , but we eh you  you 're right it might not be enough.

Yeah , I mean , see I 'm  I 'm thinking that any node that begins with " Go - there " is either gonna be true or false.


Right. So yeah , that 's what I said just having one situational node may not be enough because this  that node by itself wouldn't distinguish

Well i i it can have di various values. Yeah , but we eh you  you 're right it might not be enough.

Yeah , I mean , see I 'm  I 'm thinking that any node that begins with " Go - there " is either gonna be true or false.


Well i i it can have di various values. Yeah , but we eh you  you 're right it might not be enough.

Yeah , I mean , see I 'm  I 'm thinking that any node that begins with " Go - there " is either gonna be true or false.


Yeah , I mean , see I 'm  I 'm thinking that any node that begins with " Go - there " is either gonna be true or false.


Also , that node , I mean the Go - there s S node would just be fed by separate ones for


Also , that node , I mean the Go - there s S node would just be fed by separate ones for

you know , there 's different things , the strikes and the


you know , there 's different things , the strikes and the


Yeah. Yeah. So  so now the other thing that Bhaskara eh pointed out is what this says is that uh there sh should be a link , and this is where things are gonna get very messy from the endpoint uh decision


Yeah. Yeah. So  so now the other thing that Bhaskara eh pointed out is what this says is that uh there sh should be a link , and this is where things are gonna get very messy from the endpoint uh decision

maybe the t they 're final re and , I guess the very bottom endpoint decision uh to the Go - there node. And I  don't worry about layout ,


maybe the t they 're final re and , I guess the very bottom endpoint decision uh to the Go - there node. And I  don't worry about layout ,

I mean then we 'll go  we 'll go nuts but


I mean then we 'll go  we 'll go nuts but


I mean then we 'll go  we 'll go nuts but

Maybe we could um have intermediate node that just the Endpoint and the Go - there S node sort of fed into ?


Maybe we could um have intermediate node that just the Endpoint and the Go - there S node sort of fed into ?


Maybe we could um have intermediate node that just the Endpoint and the Go - there S node sort of fed into ?

Right. Because that 's what we , I mean that 's why this situation comes up.


Maybe we could um have intermediate node that just the Endpoint and the Go - there S node sort of fed into ?

Right. Because that 's what we , I mean that 's why this situation comes up.

Yeah. Well the Go - there , actually the Endpoint node could feed  feed into the Go - there S That 's right ,


Right. Because that 's what we , I mean that 's why this situation comes up.

Yeah. Well the Go - there , actually the Endpoint node could feed  feed into the Go - there S That 's right ,


Yeah. Well the Go - there , actually the Endpoint node could feed  feed into the Go - there S That 's right ,


and again we 'll have to do layout at some point , but something like that. Now it 's gonna be important not to have loops by the way. Uh really important in  in the belief worl net world not to have loops


How long does it take you to  to compute uh


How long does it take you to  to compute uh

No it 's much worse than that. It  if i loo it  it  it  it  it 's not def i it 's not well defined if you 're there are loops ,


No it 's much worse than that. It  if i loo it  it  it  it  it 's not def i it 's not well defined if you 're there are loops ,

you just you have to there are all sorts of ways of breaking it up so that there isn't uh OK.


you just you have to there are all sorts of ways of breaking it up so that there isn't uh OK.

Uh but this isn't , this is  this line is just coming from over here.


you just you have to there are all sorts of ways of breaking it up so that there isn't uh OK.

Uh but this isn't , this is  this line is just coming from over here.

Yeah , no it 's not a loop yet , I 'm just saying we  we , in no , in


Uh but this isn't , this is  this line is just coming from over here.

Yeah , no it 's not a loop yet , I 'm just saying we  we , in no , in

Yeah. Well , but the good thing is we  we could have loopy belief propagation which  we all love.


Yeah , no it 's not a loop yet , I 'm just saying we  we , in no , in

Yeah. Well , but the good thing is we  we could have loopy belief propagation which  we all love.


Yeah , no it 's not a loop yet , I 'm just saying we  we , in no , in

Yeah. Well , but the good thing is we  we could have loopy belief propagation which  we all love.

Right. OK , so anyway , so that 's another decision. Uh what 's  what 's another decision you like ?


Yeah. Well , but the good thing is we  we could have loopy belief propagation which  we all love.

Right. OK , so anyway , so that 's another decision. Uh what 's  what 's another decision you like ?

OK , these have no parents yet , but I guess that sort of doesn't matter. Right ?


Right. OK , so anyway , so that 's another decision. Uh what 's  what 's another decision you like ?

OK , these have no parents yet , but I guess that sort of doesn't matter. Right ?

Well , the idea is that you go there , you go comes from something about the user from something about the situation and the uh the discourse is  is a mystery.


Right. OK , so anyway , so that 's another decision. Uh what 's  what 's another decision you like ?

OK , these have no parents yet , but I guess that sort of doesn't matter. Right ?

Well , the idea is that you go there , you go comes from something about the user from something about the situation and the uh the discourse is  is a mystery.

I mean this is sort of This comes from traffic and so forth , yeah. Sh - Should we just make some


OK , these have no parents yet , but I guess that sort of doesn't matter. Right ?

Well , the idea is that you go there , you go comes from something about the user from something about the situation and the uh the discourse is  is a mystery.

I mean this is sort of This comes from traffic and so forth , yeah. Sh - Should we just make some


Well , the idea is that you go there , you go comes from something about the user from something about the situation and the uh the discourse is  is a mystery.

I mean this is sort of This comes from traffic and so forth , yeah. Sh - Should we just make some

um if there 's parking maybe Mmm Oh who cares. OK. And if he has seen it already or not and so forth ,


I mean this is sort of This comes from traffic and so forth , yeah. Sh - Should we just make some

um if there 's parking maybe Mmm Oh who cares. OK. And if he has seen it already or not and so forth ,


um if there 's parking maybe Mmm Oh who cares. OK. And if he has seen it already or not and so forth ,

OK. Um and discourse is something that sort of should we make a Keith note here ?


OK. Um and discourse is something that sort of should we make a Keith note here ?


Just sort of so we don't forget. Oops. Have to get used to this. OK , whoops.


Just sort of so we don't forget. Oops. Have to get used to this. OK , whoops.

And then also the discourse endpoint , I  I guess endpoint sub - D is  if you wanna make it consistent.


And then also the discourse endpoint , I  I guess endpoint sub - D is  if you wanna make it consistent.


And then also the discourse endpoint , I  I guess endpoint sub - D is  if you wanna make it consistent.

Um actually is this the  the right way to have it where um go there from the user and go there from the situation just sort of don't know about each other but they both feed the go there decision because isn't the , I mean


Um actually is this the  the right way to have it where um go there from the user and go there from the situation just sort of don't know about each other but they both feed the go there decision because isn't the , I mean


Um actually is this the  the right way to have it where um go there from the user and go there from the situation just sort of don't know about each other but they both feed the go there decision because isn't the , I mean

uh , hmm OK. But that still allows for the possibility of the  of the user model affecting our decision about whether a strike is the sort of thing which is going to keep this user away from


uh , hmm OK. But that still allows for the possibility of the  of the user model affecting our decision about whether a strike is the sort of thing which is going to keep this user away from

That  all that  that kind of decision making happens at the Go - there node.


uh , hmm OK. But that still allows for the possibility of the  of the user model affecting our decision about whether a strike is the sort of thing which is going to keep this user away from

That  all that  that kind of decision making happens at the Go - there node.

Uh y you  yeah you  i you  if you needed to do that.


That  all that  that kind of decision making happens at the Go - there node.

Uh y you  yeah you  i you  if you needed to do that.


Uh y you  yeah you  i you  if you needed to do that.

But uh OK I was just thinking I guess maybe I 'm conflating that user node with possible  possible asking of the user


But uh OK I was just thinking I guess maybe I 'm conflating that user node with possible  possible asking of the user


But uh OK I was just thinking I guess maybe I 'm conflating that user node with possible  possible asking of the user

you know hey there 's a strike on , uh does that affect whether or not you wanna go or something


But uh OK I was just thinking I guess maybe I 'm conflating that user node with possible  possible asking of the user

you know hey there 's a strike on , uh does that affect whether or not you wanna go or something

Ah. Good point , I don't  I don't know how we 're going to  t uh


you know hey there 's a strike on , uh does that affect whether or not you wanna go or something

Ah. Good point , I don't  I don't know how we 're going to  t uh

or Yeah , so that might not come out of a user model but , you know , directly out of interaction.


you know hey there 's a strike on , uh does that affect whether or not you wanna go or something

Ah. Good point , I don't  I don't know how we 're going to  t uh

or Yeah , so that might not come out of a user model but , you know , directly out of interaction.

Right. Uh I gu yes my curr you know , don't yeah yeah yeah that 's enough.


Ah. Good point , I don't  I don't know how we 're going to  t uh

or Yeah , so that might not come out of a user model but , you know , directly out of interaction.

Right. Uh I gu yes my curr you know , don't yeah yeah yeah that 's enough.


or Yeah , so that might not come out of a user model but , you know , directly out of interaction.

Right. Uh I gu yes my curr you know , don't yeah yeah yeah that 's enough.

Uh My current idea on that would be that each of these decision nodes has questions associated with it.


Right. Uh I gu yes my curr you know , don't yeah yeah yeah that 's enough.

Uh My current idea on that would be that each of these decision nodes has questions associated with it.