I feel like this is simil  or it's sort of what already exists so if we're trying to think of something sort of like new and fun , even though this is like what you're init I'm initially drawn to , just 'cause it's like comfortable and like not different. I sort of like this one , like I I don't know why , it just it's like small but still sort of like cute looking , I dunno. But I also like the b the side buttons on that one , like I think that's kind of neat.

But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable , sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on .

Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off ? So then w we wouldn't have to have like a dual function ?


But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable , sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on .

Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off ? So then w we wouldn't have to have like a dual function ?


Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off ? So then w we wouldn't have to have like a dual function ?


Um uh why don't we do a product evaluation using your criteria , if you've developed some ?


Um uh why don't we do a product evaluation using your criteria , if you've developed some ?

Well do we w  like I think we're supposed to have one that we do it for.


Well do we w  like I think we're supposed to have one that we do it for.


I was a little vague on what exactly I'm supposed to do , but let me  I have to like write something on the whiteboard , so.


I was a little vague on what exactly I'm supposed to do , but let me  I have to like write something on the whiteboard , so.

No , I actually don't have like a PowerPointy thing ,


No , I actually don't have like a PowerPointy thing ,


It's kind of like uh like a joystick kind of thing ,


There it could have a stem like that , 'cause I do l kind of like the stem.


There it could have a stem like that , 'cause I do l kind of like the stem.

Yeah. It almost helps you ge keep a grip too , 'cause it goes in between fingers .


Yeah. It almost helps you ge keep a grip too , 'cause it goes in between fingers .


is that where people are leaning then , the potato ? I like the idea of the


is that where people are leaning then , the potato ? I like the idea of the

I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down , that one.


is that where people are leaning then , the potato ? I like the idea of the

I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down , that one.

Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that  like i withing menus there are submenus , and so how do you get back to the main menu ?


I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down , that one.

Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that  like i withing menus there are submenus , and so how do you get back to the main menu ?


Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that  like i withing menus there are submenus , and so how do you get back to the main menu ?

Well that  on the iPod , for example , you just  every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level.


Well that  on the iPod , for example , you just  every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level.

But that has a menu button separate from a select button , whereas if this one's both the menu and the select button ?


But that has a menu button separate from a select button , whereas if this one's both the menu and the select button ?

This is , it's  the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.


This is , it's  the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.


This is , it's  the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.

You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh.


This is , it's  the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.

You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh.

Could these be used for going to submenus


You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh.

Could these be used for going to submenus

Yeah. Yeah , so they're used for going into and out of your submenus , yeah.


Could these be used for going to submenus

Yeah. Yeah , so they're used for going into and out of your submenus , yeah.


Yeah. Yeah , so they're used for going into and out of your submenus , yeah.


maybe it can be one of those , if you press down and hold for two seconds , then it brings you back one level or something.


maybe it can be one of those , if you press down and hold for two seconds , then it brings you back one level or something.

Mm-hmm. Okay. Well , as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still , mm 'kay.


maybe it can be one of those , if you press down and hold for two seconds , then it brings you back one level or something.

Mm-hmm. Okay. Well , as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still , mm 'kay.

Okay , so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities , the yellowy one is that


maybe it can be one of those , if you press down and hold for two seconds , then it brings you back one level or something.

Mm-hmm. Okay. Well , as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still , mm 'kay.

Okay , so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities , the yellowy one is that

The potato ? Are we leaning towards the potato ?


Mm-hmm. Okay. Well , as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still , mm 'kay.

Okay , so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities , the yellowy one is that

The potato ? Are we leaning towards the potato ?


Okay , so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities , the yellowy one is that

The potato ? Are we leaning towards the potato ?


The potato ? Are we leaning towards the potato ?

Okay , well we can obviously change it after we go through each different one.


Okay , well we can obviously change it after we go through each different one.


Okay , well we can obviously change it after we go through each different one.

So basically what we need to do is some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does conform to the things that we said it was going to.


So basically what we need to do is some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does conform to the things that we said it was going to.

So what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then I'll tabulate an average just to make sure that it does meet that.


So what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then I'll tabulate an average just to make sure that it does meet that.

So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell me on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all , or false , if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the   for now at least , the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion.


So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell me on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all , or false , if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the   for now at least , the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion.


So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell me on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all , or false , if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the   for now at least , the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion.

I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two.


I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two.


Um I dunno if it's it's creative. I dunno if fancy is the word I would use. I dunno if any of them are fancy in  I'd say two , because c unique.


Um I dunno if it's it's creative. I dunno if fancy is the word I would use. I dunno if any of them are fancy in  I'd say two , because c unique.

And two , awesome. Alright , and same sort of scale for functionality , is it functional ? I think it's extremely functional , I'm gonna give it a one.


And two , awesome. Alright , and same sort of scale for functionality , is it functional ? I think it's extremely functional , I'm gonna give it a one.


And two , awesome. Alright , and same sort of scale for functionality , is it functional ? I think it's extremely functional , I'm gonna give it a one.

I think it's it's functional , it's also pretty basic , so I'll give it a two.


I think it's it's functional , it's also pretty basic , so I'll give it a two.


I think it's it's functional , it's also pretty basic , so I'll give it a two.

Um functional. I think it'll get everything done , I think it might be a little confusing at first , um , I don't know if that's gonna be a later one.


I think it's it's functional , it's also pretty basic , so I'll give it a two.

Um functional. I think it'll get everything done , I think it might be a little confusing at first , um , I don't know if that's gonna be a later one.

Okay. Well there's some other ones , I will address that ,


Um functional. I think it'll get everything done , I think it might be a little confusing at first , um , I don't know if that's gonna be a later one.

Okay. Well there's some other ones , I will address that ,


Um functional. I think it'll get everything done , I think it might be a little confusing at first , um , I don't know if that's gonna be a later one.

Okay. Well there's some other ones , I will address that ,

yeah. Awesome , okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative.


Okay. Well there's some other ones , I will address that ,

yeah. Awesome , okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative.


yeah. Awesome , okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative.


Um is it technologically innovative ? Mm. Not really , I mean not so much , 'cause we we don't have the L_C_D_ screen , we don't have fancy chip. Other than what it looks like , I dunno if it's really


How many people would notice that , though ?


How many people would notice that , though ?

But they'll notice it after like a year ,


But they'll notice it after like a year ,

they'll be like hey , I have never changed the battery.


But they'll notice it after like a year ,

they'll be like hey , I have never changed the battery.

And if it's made of like latex , that whole idea , that's pretty cool.


they'll be like hey , I have never changed the battery.

And if it's made of like latex , that whole idea , that's pretty cool.


they'll be like hey , I have never changed the battery.

And if it's made of like latex , that whole idea , that's pretty cool.

I'll give it a three. 'Cause it  we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really


And if it's made of like latex , that whole idea , that's pretty cool.

I'll give it a three. 'Cause it  we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really

Yeah. I I would say that it's  Yeah , like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative ? I dunno. I'll give it a three.


I'll give it a three. 'Cause it  we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really

Yeah. I I would say that it's  Yeah , like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative ? I dunno. I'll give it a three.


I'll give it a three. 'Cause it  we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really

Yeah. I I would say that it's  Yeah , like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative ? I dunno. I'll give it a three.

I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique , I mean it's it's just  it is just pushbuttons um , so I I'd give it a four.


Yeah. I I would say that it's  Yeah , like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative ? I dunno. I'll give it a three.

I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique , I mean it's it's just  it is just pushbuttons um , so I I'd give it a four.

Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.


I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique , I mean it's it's just  it is just pushbuttons um , so I I'd give it a four.

Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.


I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique , I mean it's it's just  it is just pushbuttons um , so I I'd give it a four.

Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.

I really like that kinetic battery though.


Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.

I really like that kinetic battery though.

Next , is it easy to use ? Just so you know , easy to learn will be separate ,


I really like that kinetic battery though.

Next , is it easy to use ? Just so you know , easy to learn will be separate ,


Next , is it easy to use ? Just so you know , easy to learn will be separate ,


I think it's really easy to use. I'll give it a two.


I think it's really easy to use. I'll give it a two.

Um I'll give it a one. Pretty hard to mess up.


Um I'll give it a one. Pretty hard to mess up.

Alright. Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality


Alright. Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality

and  if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I  it's spongy all the way.


and  if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I  it's spongy all the way.


I wonder if it bounces when you drop it.


'Cause there would be less impact maybe , .


Alright and the next is , does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables  ?


Alright and the next is , does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables  ?

It it might be , 'cause that's our corporate colour , isn't it ?


It it might be , 'cause that's our corporate colour , isn't it ?

That's right , yeah , corporate colour , we didn't keep that in


That's right , yeah , corporate colour , we didn't keep that in


if we  I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing , but if we had all the buttons in black , and a design in  and the outside in yellow , that'd be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colours , one a more conservative one , one that's more fruity.


if we  I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing , but if we had all the buttons in black , and a design in  and the outside in yellow , that'd be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colours , one a more conservative one , one that's more fruity.

Yeah , but if you had like a silvery kind of white or something.


Yeah , but if you had like a silvery kind of white or something.

Um and can we have like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something ?


Um and can we have like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something ?


it was inspired by the potato , so I think it's pretty fruity.


okay , I'm giving it a one  the mango  put me over.


Alright um , and does the design match the appropriate behaviour ? Remember earlier we discussed that people don't use a lot of buttons , that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most. I think we really took that into account a lot , so I'm gonna give it a one.


Okay um , also we talked earlier about R_S_I_ and wanting to prevent um any sort of like Carpal Tunnely kind of thing. Do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account ? I think I'll give it a two , 'cause I almost feel like no matter what you do , something is gonna happen.


And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing , but um


And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing , but um

I like how it fits in the hand though so I I'd go with a two.


And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing , but um

I like how it fits in the hand though so I I'd go with a two.

Yeah. I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit at first ,


I like how it fits in the hand though so I I'd go with a two.

Yeah. I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit at first ,


Yeah. I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit at first ,


Alright , awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that , I dunno. It sort of reminds me of the iPod. I just got mine , I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay , so


Alright , awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that , I dunno. It sort of reminds me of the iPod. I just got mine , I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay , so

and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.


Alright , awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that , I dunno. It sort of reminds me of the iPod. I just got mine , I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay , so

and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.

The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing , but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out , but you'll have it afterwards.


and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.

The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing , but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out , but you'll have it afterwards.


and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.

The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing , but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out , but you'll have it afterwards.

So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.


The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing , but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out , but you'll have it afterwards.

So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.

I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn , because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are


So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.

I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn , because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are


So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.

I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn , because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are

and that could take a bit of learning at first , but


I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn , because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are

and that could take a bit of learning at first , but


and that could take a bit of learning at first , but

once you've , yeah once you'd learned how to use it , I think it is a lot easier. So I'd I'd give it a four.


once you've , yeah once you'd learned how to use it , I think it is a lot easier. So I'd I'd give it a four.

I think I'd give it a four too. It's a pretty high learning curve , it'll be easy once you've done it , but


I think I'd give it a four too. It's a pretty high learning curve , it'll be easy once you've done it , but

Mm-hmm. Alright , um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all , so


Mm-hmm. Alright , um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all , so

I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour , but


Mm-hmm. Alright , um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all , so

I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour , but

Okay , so in terms of not losing it , do you think that on a scale of one to seven , how easy or hard is it to lose ? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four , 'cause I think that you can still  if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it , you're kind of not gonna find it ,


I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour , but

Okay , so in terms of not losing it , do you think that on a scale of one to seven , how easy or hard is it to lose ? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four , 'cause I think that you can still  if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it , you're kind of not gonna find it ,


Okay , so in terms of not losing it , do you think that on a scale of one to seven , how easy or hard is it to lose ? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four , 'cause I think that you can still  if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it , you're kind of not gonna find it ,


Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three , I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally.


Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three , I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally.

Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like that , yeah.


Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like that , yeah.

Alright , we also said simplicity ,  how w how well does it address just being simple ?


Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like that , yeah.

Alright , we also said simplicity ,  how w how well does it address just being simple ?

Simple to use or simple in design ? Do you know ?


Alright , we also said simplicity ,  how w how well does it address just being simple ?

Simple to use or simple in design ? Do you know ?

I think overall , 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion ,


Alright , we also said simplicity ,  how w how well does it address just being simple ?

Simple to use or simple in design ? Do you know ?

I think overall , 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion ,

so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy , like that sort of thing.


Simple to use or simple in design ? Do you know ?

I think overall , 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion ,

so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy , like that sort of thing.


I think overall , 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion ,

so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy , like that sort of thing.

Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple , so I'm gonna give it a two.


so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy , like that sort of thing.

Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple , so I'm gonna give it a two.


Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple , so I'm gonna give it a two.


It's totally fashionable. I'd give it a one.


It's totally fashionable. I'd give it a one.

It's hot , I mean it's a mango , come on.


It's totally fashionable. I'd give it a one.

It's hot , I mean it's a mango , come on.

I mean how fashionable can you make a remote ? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well.


It's hot , I mean it's a mango , come on.

I mean how fashionable can you make a remote ? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well.


I mean how fashionable can you make a remote ? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well.

I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote


I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote


I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote

Yeah , the toggle on off switch , it's really appealing.


Yeah , the toggle on off switch , it's really appealing.


And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal , that whole thing ? Just that it would se serve our audience. I don't see why not.


And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal , that whole thing ? Just that it would se serve our audience. I don't see why not.

Mm-hmm. I think as long  if we offer in a  in at least three different colour arrangements. Um yeah , that's good.


Mm-hmm. I think as long  if we offer in a  in at least three different colour arrangements. Um yeah , that's good.


Alright , did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about ?


Alright , did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about ?

Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo , so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is corporate and has an R_R_ on it.


Alright , did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about ?

Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo , so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is corporate and has an R_R_ on it.

Shall we uh  Well I think all of them should have an R_R_.


Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo , so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is corporate and has an R_R_ on it.

Shall we uh  Well I think all of them should have an R_R_.

And so we're gonna do that , so it will address it ,


Shall we uh  Well I think all of them should have an R_R_.

And so we're gonna do that , so it will address it ,


And so we're gonna do that , so it will address it ,


Okay , now we're gonna look at finances. Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um , so let me exit out of this first. Okay um


Okay , now we're gonna look at finances. Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um , so let me exit out of this first. Okay um

I know. Let me  one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick.  Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using kinetic battery ,


I know. Let me  one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick.  Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using kinetic battery ,


I know. Let me  one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick.  Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using kinetic battery ,

right ? Um and we're having one per  One , okay.


right ? Um and we're having one per  One , okay.


Guess it's double-curved. It is pretty curvy.


Yeah I never did get a picture of those so I don't really know. Our case material supplements  oops , we just skipped by them.


Yeah I never did get a picture of those so I don't really know. Our case material supplements  oops , we just skipped by them.

No , we we  the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed. The supplement is


No , we we  the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed. The supplement is


No , we we  the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed. The supplement is

Oh , I guess it was rubber rather than latex.


Oh , I guess it was rubber rather than latex.


Oh , I guess it was rubber rather than latex.

It was rubber and special colour , right ?


It was rubber and special colour , right ?


It was rubber and special colour , right ?

Do we have more than one special colour ?


Do we have more than one special colour ?

Yeah , we're using  we're gonna need at least two special colours.


Yeah , we're using  we're gonna need at least two special colours.


I don't know what the se the basic colour is though.


I don't know what the se the basic colour is though.

Well , but we know that we're having at least three colours ,


Well , but we know that we're having at least three colours ,


Well , but we know that we're having at least three colours ,

Well , are we talking about on each colour combination or are we , you know , we'll  like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours ?


Well , are we talking about on each colour combination or are we , you know , we'll  like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours ?


Well , are we talking about on each colour combination or are we , you know , we'll  like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours ?

Or or is white and black , then two more or


Or or is white and black , then two more or


Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well ,


Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well ,

so yeah. Interface , we're doing push buttons. And how many buttons do we have ?


so yeah. Interface , we're doing push buttons. And how many buttons do we have ?


Yeah. No. Oh , we'll  do we wa Are the buttons in special colour , special f I didn't get information on


Yeah. No. Oh , we'll  do we wa Are the buttons in special colour , special f I didn't get information on

buttons  oh , so um. So the case material will just have one colour , right ,


buttons  oh , so um. So the case material will just have one colour , right ,


buttons  oh , so um. So the case material will just have one colour , right ,

but then the buttons will be in special colours ?


but then the buttons will be in special colours ?


but then the buttons will be in special colours ?

but if we're making multiple varieties of  this is where I'm getting confused.


but if we're making multiple varieties of  this is where I'm getting confused.


Okay , so each unit will only have one colour on their


Okay , so each unit will only have one colour on their

but the case is  could have up to thr I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours , 'cause that how it's designed there.


but the case is  could have up to thr I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours , 'cause that how it's designed there.


Special form ? They're all kind of just push button ,


Material , we want them rubber as well probably , yeah.


Material , we want them rubber as well probably , yeah.

Uh. Oh do  I have to do it per button , do I ?


Uh. Oh do  I have to do it per button , do I ?

if they're all gonna be rubber then it  that's what it matters.


if they're all gonna be rubber then it  that's what it matters.

Yeah , 'cause it wouldn't make sense otherwise ,


Yeah , 'cause it wouldn't make sense otherwise ,

'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one.


'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one.


'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one.

It's  I mean it's two to make it rubber.


It's  I mean it's two to make it rubber.


Okay , let's have our buttons all be one colour.


Okay , let's have our buttons all be one colour.

Let's see what that would do. It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway.


Let's see what that would do. It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway.

Okay um , are we sure this is double-curved ?


Okay um , are we sure this is double-curved ?


I dunno , I didn't get any pictures.  It's single curved.


I dunno , I didn't get any pictures.  It's single curved.

Well it's not the  yeah. Okay , it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive , but we have a simple chip , single curve ,


Well it's not the  yeah. Okay , it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive , but we have a simple chip , single curve ,

case material is rubber and it's a special colour ,


Well it's not the  yeah. Okay , it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive , but we have a simple chip , single curve ,

case material is rubber and it's a special colour ,

but that's important. Six buttons  we have to have six buttons.


case material is rubber and it's a special colour ,

but that's important. Six buttons  we have to have six buttons.

That is important. How did it get more expensive , what did you just change ?


but that's important. Six buttons  we have to have six buttons.

That is important. How did it get more expensive , what did you just change ?


but that's important. Six buttons  we have to have six buttons.

That is important. How did it get more expensive , what did you just change ?

It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen.


That is important. How did it get more expensive , what did you just change ?

It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen.

No , okay , maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's twelve.


It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen.

No , okay , maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's twelve.


No , okay , maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's twelve.


Twelve point five. So we're just just about there.


Um save. I saved that to our um our big shared folder , so you know. Um okay , back to agenda.  Um are the  are the costs under twelve fifty Euro ? Yes.


Let's move on to the project evaluation. Project process. Satisfaction with for example the room for creativity , leadership , teamwork , the means , any new ideas found. So I guess what we're gonna talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project , the information we got on the news , how we used it , if we were able to um , you know , use our creativity with the information , um how how well I guess I led it , um the  how well we worked together as a team , um the digital pens , the whiteboard.


in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set


in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set

and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got  cost.


in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set

and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got  cost.

I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information ,


and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got  cost.

I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information ,


and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got  cost.

I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information ,

like what's a single-curved case , how many colours , what do colours count


I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information ,

like what's a single-curved case , how many colours , what do colours count


like what's a single-curved case , how many colours , what do colours count

things , but given given what we had I think that we did we did really well. Um I think we worked together pretty well.


things , but given given what we had I think that we did we did really well. Um I think we worked together pretty well.

Yeah , I mean  if I'd had more market research on the  fruits and vegetables , maybe we could've taken that into account.


Yeah , I mean  if I'd had more market research on the  fruits and vegetables , maybe we could've taken that into account.


Yeah , I mean  if I'd had more market research on the  fruits and vegetables , maybe we could've taken that into account.

But the fruits and vegetables , they really  my creativity , so.


But the fruits and vegetables , they really  my creativity , so.

I know , I really did , the the whole mango idea was great.


But the fruits and vegetables , they really  my creativity , so.

I know , I really did , the the whole mango idea was great.

No , I mean I thought the pen was a little distracting for me personally , like its heaviness , and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages , I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.


I know , I really did , the the whole mango idea was great.

No , I mean I thought the pen was a little distracting for me personally , like its heaviness , and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages , I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.


No , I mean I thought the pen was a little distracting for me personally , like its heaviness , and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages , I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.

That was the last one , like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to , so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and that whole sort of thing.


No , I mean I thought the pen was a little distracting for me personally , like its heaviness , and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages , I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.

That was the last one , like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to , so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and that whole sort of thing.

Mm-hmm. I think we all made um very significant contributions ,


That was the last one , like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to , so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and that whole sort of thing.

Mm-hmm. I think we all made um very significant contributions ,


That was the last one , like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to , so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and that whole sort of thing.

Mm-hmm. I think we all made um very significant contributions ,

I don't think anybody dominated it , which I thought was really good , like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over , um


Mm-hmm. I think we all made um very significant contributions ,

I don't think anybody dominated it , which I thought was really good , like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over , um


I don't think anybody dominated it , which I thought was really good , like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over , um


I don't think anybody dominated it , which I thought was really good , like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over , um

Can we market this as the mango remote ?


Can we market this as the mango remote ?


Should we have that somewhere on the packaging ? I have a little R_R_.


Should we have that somewhere on the packaging ? I have a little R_R_.

I'm trying to think of a good pun that I could add there .


I'm trying to think of a good pun that I could add there .


I like the R_R_ , that's gonna be etched in.


I like the R_R_ , that's gonna be etched in.

Yes. Hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but um it's quite a useful little gadget. All thanks to Iain for the design of that one.


Yes. Hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but um it's quite a useful little gadget. All thanks to Iain for the design of that one.


People should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables.


People should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables.

Definitely. Or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches mm


Definitely. Or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches mm

I I am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now after reading about them.


I I am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now after reading about them.


I I knew you can get watches that had them , like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery , 'cause you're always moving your wrist.


I I knew you can get watches that had them , like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery , 'cause you're always moving your wrist.

But in other things , I think it'd be really good.


I I knew you can get watches that had them , like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery , 'cause you're always moving your wrist.

But in other things , I think it'd be really good.

I thi yeah , that's awesome. Um okay , closing. Are the costs within the budget ? Is the project evaluated ?


But in other things , I think it'd be really good.

I thi yeah , that's awesome. Um okay , closing. Are the costs within the budget ? Is the project evaluated ?


But in other things , I think it'd be really good.

I thi yeah , that's awesome. Um okay , closing. Are the costs within the budget ? Is the project evaluated ?

Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so , this is the great product kids , I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it , um especially if we can produce it at twelve point three


I thi yeah , that's awesome. Um okay , closing. Are the costs within the budget ? Is the project evaluated ?

Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so , this is the great product kids , I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it , um especially if we can produce it at twelve point three


Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so , this is the great product kids , I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it , um especially if we can produce it at twelve point three

which we hope um  yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and  .


which we hope um  yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and  .


which we hope um  yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and  .

If we could choose more than one , that would be my second choice.


If we could choose more than one , that would be my second choice.

Oh , that would definitely be my second choice.


Oh , that would definitely be my second choice.


That's cool. Let's all let's all go for the yellow


That's cool. Let's all let's all go for the yellow

It started because I wanted to have it as st as a stem


It started because I wanted to have it as st as a stem


Is  it started as a pear , but then it started looking more and more like a Martian


Is  it started as a pear , but then it started looking more and more like a Martian

Kind of looks like a penguin , like  with no eye .


Kind of looks like a penguin , like  with no eye .


Wow , maybe I should market it to some remote control company now.


Mm 'kay , congratulations. Um. Anything else to say ?


Mm 'kay , congratulations. Um. Anything else to say ?

Nothing will come up until after our meeting's supposed to be over ,


Nothing will come up until after our meeting's supposed to be over ,


I got more master classes , anybody else wanna like take a master's class ?


I got more master classes , anybody else wanna like take a master's class ?

It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.


I got more master classes , anybody else wanna like take a master's class ?

It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.

Yeah , but check it out. So like there are all these like links , they don't go anywhere.


I got more master classes , anybody else wanna like take a master's class ?

It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.

Yeah , but check it out. So like there are all these like links , they don't go anywhere.

But all that you need to keep in mind your  knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.


It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.

Yeah , but check it out. So like there are all these like links , they don't go anywhere.

But all that you need to keep in mind your  knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.

No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this to us ?


Yeah , but check it out. So like there are all these like links , they don't go anywhere.

But all that you need to keep in mind your  knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.

No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this to us ?


But all that you need to keep in mind your  knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.

No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this to us ?


No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this to us ?


I'm very sad that I didn't get any links to the corporate website. .


I'm very sad that I didn't get any links to the corporate website. .

what did I get through the corporate website ? It's just inspiration about circuit boards.


what did I get through the corporate website ? It's just inspiration about circuit boards.


what did I get through the corporate website ? It's just inspiration about circuit boards.

Yeah it's it's really deep. Hold on. Takes a little while to get excited to load. That  the Excel thing is pretty cool.


Yeah it's it's really deep. Hold on. Takes a little while to get excited to load. That  the Excel thing is pretty cool.


it's like inspiration , basically I'm gonna give you two sentences on fashion and that kind of thing , see. You didn't miss out that much.


it's like inspiration , basically I'm gonna give you two sentences on fashion and that kind of thing , see. You didn't miss out that much.

Yeah , my inspiration from from last time is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit , talking about circuit boards.


Yeah , my inspiration from from last time is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit , talking about circuit boards.


I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.


I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.

Oh wow. This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.


I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.

Oh wow. This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.

Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and  I wrote it all down , because I thought it would be relevant , like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control , but then they're like , you don't actually need this  you just need to talk about the case.


I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.

Oh wow. This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.

Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and  I wrote it all down , because I thought it would be relevant , like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control , but then they're like , you don't actually need this  you just need to talk about the case.

That's like mine it was like , would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control ? And then it didn't have like any kind of table , like awesome , I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result .


Oh wow. This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.

Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and  I wrote it all down , because I thought it would be relevant , like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control , but then they're like , you don't actually need this  you just need to talk about the case.

That's like mine it was like , would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control ? And then it didn't have like any kind of table , like awesome , I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result .

I I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.


Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and  I wrote it all down , because I thought it would be relevant , like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control , but then they're like , you don't actually need this  you just need to talk about the case.

That's like mine it was like , would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control ? And then it didn't have like any kind of table , like awesome , I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result .

I I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.


That's like mine it was like , would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control ? And then it didn't have like any kind of table , like awesome , I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result .

I I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.


I I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.


We had a lot of the um  otherwise the technology  today was kinda cool.


We didn't we didn't use the whiteboard that much.


We didn't we didn't use the whiteboard that much.

Although I don't see how we could have very l at least for me


Although I don't see how we could have very l at least for me

I  yeah. If I'd gotten pictures of the different parts of the case , the different looks of the case , I would have probably drawn them up ,


I  yeah. If I'd gotten pictures of the different parts of the case , the different looks of the case , I would have probably drawn them up ,

'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually , like whiteboards are good , you know like crossing out ideas , or like if we had had like a brainstorming period.


'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually , like whiteboards are good , you know like crossing out ideas , or like if we had had like a brainstorming period.

Yeah , we could've put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it ,


'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually , like whiteboards are good , you know like crossing out ideas , or like if we had had like a brainstorming period.

Yeah , we could've put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it ,

but with only four people it doesn't really make sense.


Yeah , we could've put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it ,

but with only four people it doesn't really make sense.


but with only four people it doesn't really make sense.

And with and with the PowerPoint that we can all look at , like you can do all those things pretty much on PowerPoint


And with and with the PowerPoint that we can all look at , like you can do all those things pretty much on PowerPoint


And these might've made us more willing to like take notes than to like write up them here ,


And these might've made us more willing to like take notes than to like write up them here ,

'cause we all needed them separately , kind of on the whiteboards in this room.


'cause we all needed them separately , kind of on the whiteboards in this room.

Because we're all gonna be working in different places.


Because we're all gonna be working in different places.

We  if we were all gonna stay in here all the time , then having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright ,


We  if we were all gonna stay in here all the time , then having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright ,

but everyone needs their own , like specific notes , I guess.


We  if we were all gonna stay in here all the time , then having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright ,

but everyone needs their own , like specific notes , I guess.

Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here , did you work together or did you like do separate projects ?


but everyone needs their own , like specific notes , I guess.

Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here , did you work together or did you like do separate projects ?


Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here , did you work together or did you like do separate projects ?

um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work ,


um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work ,


um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work ,

um and how we could like improve on the on the design.


um and how we could like improve on the on the design.

So it was a bit of both really , we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape


um and how we could like improve on the on the design.

So it was a bit of both really , we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape

and he came up with the sort of potatoey , mangoey shape , and then just went from there really.


So it was a bit of both really , we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape

and he came up with the sort of potatoey , mangoey shape , and then just went from there really.


and he came up with the sort of potatoey , mangoey shape , and then just went from there really.

It was fun.   So well done with the management , I felt well managed.


It was fun.   So well done with the management , I felt well managed.

I think we did well in first of all giving our meetings the time ,


I think we did well in first of all giving our meetings the time ,

and second we actually we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings.


and second we actually we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings.


That happened to me all the time though.


That happened to me all the time though.

I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided.


That happened to me all the time though.

I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided.

But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points  at the end of the meetings , so that we we knew where to go on from there.


I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided.

But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points  at the end of the meetings , so that we we knew where to go on from there.

Yeah , I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting  we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions ,


But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points  at the end of the meetings , so that we we knew where to go on from there.

Yeah , I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting  we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions ,


But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points  at the end of the meetings , so that we we knew where to go on from there.

Yeah , I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting  we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions ,

but we were able to do it regardless , so. I'm not usually a very decisive person , so it helped to have people say this needs to be done in five minutes.


Yeah , I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting  we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions ,

but we were able to do it regardless , so. I'm not usually a very decisive person , so it helped to have people say this needs to be done in five minutes.


but we were able to do it regardless , so. I'm not usually a very decisive person , so it helped to have people say this needs to be done in five minutes.


but we were able to do it regardless , so. I'm not usually a very decisive person , so it helped to have people say this needs to be done in five minutes.

I found that we did  we could have used another five or ten minutes sometimes in the meetings.


I found that we did  we could have used another five or ten minutes sometimes in the meetings.


Yeah I think the last time we had a lot of information , but at the same time not quite enough ,


like we we couldn't answer every single question.


Right. And I I felt the first two meetings , that I was coming in with no information ,


Right. And I I felt the first two meetings , that I was coming in with no information ,

and not sort of made me really like , ooh I don't know  , throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.


Right. And I I felt the first two meetings , that I was coming in with no information ,

and not sort of made me really like , ooh I don't know  , throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.

It was interesting what came out like later , like as I was doing the  when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave me um , that more points came out from your presentation even.


and not sort of made me really like , ooh I don't know  , throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.

It was interesting what came out like later , like as I was doing the  when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave me um , that more points came out from your presentation even.


and not sort of made me really like , ooh I don't know  , throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.

It was interesting what came out like later , like as I was doing the  when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave me um , that more points came out from your presentation even.

Um. I'm a little  I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a  um something for losing the remote , because that was kind of a big point.


It was interesting what came out like later , like as I was doing the  when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave me um , that more points came out from your presentation even.

Um. I'm a little  I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a  um something for losing the remote , because that was kind of a big point.

Yeah.  that was something like  in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards and  things like


Um. I'm a little  I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a  um something for losing the remote , because that was kind of a big point.

Yeah.  that was something like  in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards and  things like


Yeah.  that was something like  in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards and  things like

Well the problem was , even when we just were creating from the Excel file , there wasn't like a option to select to somehow have it included ,


Well the problem was , even when we just were creating from the Excel file , there wasn't like a option to select to somehow have it included ,


Well the problem was , even when we just were creating from the Excel file , there wasn't like a option to select to somehow have it included ,

so there was no  we could be like yeah , it has it included.


so there was no  we could be like yeah , it has it included.


I think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task .


I think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task .

I think we really got into it , I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like , ooh I'm designing a remote control , I dunno if that's just me ,


I think we really got into it , I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like , ooh I'm designing a remote control , I dunno if that's just me ,


I think we really got into it , I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like , ooh I'm designing a remote control , I dunno if that's just me ,

It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to um  we weren't provided with information to discuss that.


It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to um  we weren't provided with information to discuss that.


It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to um  we weren't provided with information to discuss that.

I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep , but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology


I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep , but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology


I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep , but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology

that  I just don't know what it is , but


that  I just don't know what it is , but

I think there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them.


that  I just don't know what it is , but

I think there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them.

I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least , there's only about two places that the remote is ever


I think there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them.

I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least , there's only about two places that the remote is ever


I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least , there's only about two places that the remote is ever

'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's only like three chairs.


I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least , there's only about two places that the remote is ever

'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's only like three chairs.

That's like saying you're never gonna lose your keys , and I always do , anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket ,


'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's only like three chairs.

That's like saying you're never gonna lose your keys , and I always do , anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket ,


'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's only like three chairs.

That's like saying you're never gonna lose your keys , and I always do , anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket ,

like you just will forget that  or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then not remember ,


That's like saying you're never gonna lose your keys , and I always do , anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket ,

like you just will forget that  or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then not remember ,


like you just will forget that  or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then not remember ,


It d yeah , it depends on how organised you are personally , but


It d yeah , it depends on how organised you are personally , but

Yeah , or like I guess what the setup of the house is too.


It d yeah , it depends on how organised you are personally , but

Yeah , or like I guess what the setup of the house is too.

But , I mean  I am notorious for losing my keys ,


Yeah , or like I guess what the setup of the house is too.

But , I mean  I am notorious for losing my keys ,

I just  I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night  and couldn't find them.


But , I mean  I am notorious for losing my keys ,

I just  I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night  and couldn't find them.


I just  I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night  and couldn't find them.


You you're taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room.


You you're taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room.

Can't get in , look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer.


Can't get in , look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer.


Can't get in , look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer.

I always do that , leaving it in my coat , and then like using a different coat.


I always do that , leaving it in my coat , and then like using a different coat.


I always do that , leaving it in my coat , and then like using a different coat.

But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much.


But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much.

Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room.


But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much.

Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room.

Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a  robot , alien , pear , whatever he is , have a little voice like , I am located


Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room.

Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a  robot , alien , pear , whatever he is , have a little voice like , I am located


Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a  robot , alien , pear , whatever he is , have a little voice like , I am located

We should make one that walks by itself.


We should make one that walks by itself.

Although if it's sitting still for too long.  Yes I


We should make one that walks by itself.

Although if it's sitting still for too long.  Yes I

That really could get up and walk away .


We should make one that walks by itself.

Although if it's sitting still for too long.  Yes I

That really could get up and walk away .

Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet , that you push it and it'll go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.


Although if it's sitting still for too long.  Yes I

That really could get up and walk away .

Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet , that you push it and it'll go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.

Or little    Or just just a wheel , you know.


That really could get up and walk away .

Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet , that you push it and it'll go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.

Or little    Or just just a wheel , you know.

Just if you   like you'd have a remote for your remote , that'll .


Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet , that you push it and it'll go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.

Or little    Or just just a wheel , you know.

Just if you   like you'd have a remote for your remote , that'll .


Or little    Or just just a wheel , you know.

Just if you   like you'd have a remote for your remote , that'll .

Well , but if you could attach them to the T_V_ , then you can .


Just if you   like you'd have a remote for your remote , that'll .

Well , but if you could attach them to the T_V_ , then you can .

zoom  Yeah. Hmm. All kinds of possibilities.


Well , but if you could attach them to the T_V_ , then you can .

zoom  Yeah. Hmm. All kinds of possibilities.

Mm. Okay. Sorry , I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to  you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary , rather than like repeating them.


zoom  Yeah. Hmm. All kinds of possibilities.

Mm. Okay. Sorry , I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to  you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary , rather than like repeating them.

Just gonna make  I'm making full minutes , so that it'll include all of the agenda and all that.


Mm. Okay. Sorry , I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to  you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary , rather than like repeating them.

Just gonna make  I'm making full minutes , so that it'll include all of the agenda and all that.


Just gonna make  I'm making full minutes , so that it'll include all of the agenda and all that.


Just gonna make  I'm making full minutes , so that it'll include all of the agenda and all that.

Wow. 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.


Wow. 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.

But I didn't have like information to sloth through either , so


Wow. 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.

But I didn't have like information to sloth through either , so

Yeah , I guess  How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you , every meeting.


Wow. 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.

But I didn't have like information to sloth through either , so

Yeah , I guess  How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you , every meeting.

Most of it , mm-hmm. I added slides , um I added a couple slides each time ,


But I didn't have like information to sloth through either , so

Yeah , I guess  How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you , every meeting.

Most of it , mm-hmm. I added slides , um I added a couple slides each time ,


Yeah , I guess  How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you , every meeting.

Most of it , mm-hmm. I added slides , um I added a couple slides each time ,


Most of it , mm-hmm. I added slides , um I added a couple slides each time ,

Okay. Yeah , I didn't even think about adding slides , 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them


Okay. Yeah , I didn't even think about adding slides , 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them


Okay. Yeah , I didn't even think about adding slides , 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them

and fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.


Okay. Yeah , I didn't even think about adding slides , 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them

and fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.

Well , the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points , but it wouldn't have a slide for each point. And that's the only way I remember that I need to go other that point.


and fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.

Well , the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points , but it wouldn't have a slide for each point. And that's the only way I remember that I need to go other that point.


and fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.

Well , the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points , but it wouldn't have a slide for each point. And that's the only way I remember that I need to go other that point.

I know personally when I do PowerPoint , that's what I do and so  I had it once , even if it was just like the title of it , like the three presentations , and I would do your three.


Well , the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points , but it wouldn't have a slide for each point. And that's the only way I remember that I need to go other that point.

I know personally when I do PowerPoint , that's what I do and so  I had it once , even if it was just like the title of it , like the three presentations , and I would do your three.


I know personally when I do PowerPoint , that's what I do and so  I had it once , even if it was just like the title of it , like the three presentations , and I would do your three.

You have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like


You have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like


'Cause I was like , it could go around the outside.


'Cause I was like , it could go around the outside.

I think the R_ and R_ , especially if the yellow and black one.


I think the R_ and R_ , especially if the yellow and black one.


I think the R_ and R_ , especially if the yellow and black one.

Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page.


Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page.

Yeah , I was just kinda going by the web page , 'cause they didn't give me any clear , like yellow , grey , or .


Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page.

Yeah , I was just kinda going by the web page , 'cause they didn't give me any clear , like yellow , grey , or .

Oh I guess it is black , grey. Grey is better than black , doesn't look so bumblebeeish.


Yeah , I was just kinda going by the web page , 'cause they didn't give me any clear , like yellow , grey , or .

Oh I guess it is black , grey. Grey is better than black , doesn't look so bumblebeeish.

Hey now I understand the random like newsclippings.


Oh I guess it is black , grey. Grey is better than black , doesn't look so bumblebeeish.

Hey now I understand the random like newsclippings.


Hey now I understand the random like newsclippings.


Hey now I understand the random like newsclippings.

Wasn't it interesting that um  I thought it was interesting that our market marketing um expert did not agree with the marketing um


Wasn't it interesting that um  I thought it was interesting that our market marketing um expert did not agree with the marketing um


I just feel like if you're really doing like a a really big market evaluation , you wouldn't just have like one set of source ,


I just feel like if you're really doing like a a really big market evaluation , you wouldn't just have like one set of source ,

it's kind of an  they were so not backed up , it would just be a sentence  like we did a survey , this is what people said.


it's kind of an  they were so not backed up , it would just be a sentence  like we did a survey , this is what people said.


I guess it i it sort of a grey , isn't it ? Yellow and grey , but then the slogan's in blue.


I guess it i it sort of a grey , isn't it ? Yellow and grey , but then the slogan's in blue.

Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons , we're good.


I guess it i it sort of a grey , isn't it ? Yellow and grey , but then the slogan's in blue.

Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons , we're good.

Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.


I guess it i it sort of a grey , isn't it ? Yellow and grey , but then the slogan's in blue.

Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons , we're good.

Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.

Maybe , like  I don't know.  That could always be .


Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons , we're good.

Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.

Maybe , like  I don't know.  That could always be .

Well we're not , sadly , going to actually be producing this , so .


Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.

Maybe , like  I don't know.  That could always be .

Well we're not , sadly , going to actually be producing this , so .


Maybe , like  I don't know.  That could always be .

Well we're not , sadly , going to actually be producing this , so .


Well we're not , sadly , going to actually be producing this , so .


I can't believe a whole day is gone. I don't feel like it's been that long.


I can't believe a whole day is gone. I don't feel like it's been that long.

Get sucked in. Mm I haven't gotten questionnaire eight yet.


I call this meeting to order. Welcome to the 13th meeting of the House of Commons Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic. This will be a hybrid meeting. Some members will be participating via video conference and some will be participating in person. In order to ensure that those joining the meeting via video conference can be seen and heard by those in the chamber, two screens have been set up on either side of the Chairs chair, and members in the chamber can listen to the floor audio or to interpretation using the earpieces at their desks. Before speaking, please wait until I recognize you by name, and please direct your remarks through the chair. For those joining via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mike on mute

Can the member wait for the point of order until we finish the introduction?


Can the member wait for the point of order until we finish the introduction?

There is so much noise in the background over there, Mr. Chair.


Can the member wait for the point of order until we finish the introduction?

There is so much noise in the background over there, Mr. Chair.

That is a very good point of order. I want to remind everyone that when we speak, it is picked up. We have amazing speakersand an amazing Speaker, but that's a whole other storyand amazing microphones in the chamber, and they do pick up everything. I know there was some chatter going on in the background. I want to make sure everyone is aware of that. Mr. Aboultaif, that was a very good point of order. I appreciate that. For those joining us via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mikes on mute when you're not speaking. Also, please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on the English channel, and if you want to speak in French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate between the two languages, you should change the channel to the language that you are speaking each time you switch languages. Should members participating by video conference wish to request the floor outside their designated speaking times, they should activate their mic and state that they have a point of order. Those in the Chamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings will be televised. I understand that there are no ministerial announcements for today, so we'll continue to the presentation of petitions, for a period not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remind members that any petition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already been certified by the clerk of petitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come and drop the signed certificate off at the table once the petition is presented. The first petition goes to Mr. Manly, who is joining us via video conference.


Can the member wait for the point of order until we finish the introduction?

There is so much noise in the background over there, Mr. Chair.

That is a very good point of order. I want to remind everyone that when we speak, it is picked up. We have amazing speakersand an amazing Speaker, but that's a whole other storyand amazing microphones in the chamber, and they do pick up everything. I know there was some chatter going on in the background. I want to make sure everyone is aware of that. Mr. Aboultaif, that was a very good point of order. I appreciate that. For those joining us via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mikes on mute when you're not speaking. Also, please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on the English channel, and if you want to speak in French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate between the two languages, you should change the channel to the language that you are speaking each time you switch languages. Should members participating by video conference wish to request the floor outside their designated speaking times, they should activate their mic and state that they have a point of order. Those in the Chamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings will be televised. I understand that there are no ministerial announcements for today, so we'll continue to the presentation of petitions, for a period not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remind members that any petition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already been certified by the clerk of petitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come and drop the signed certificate off at the table once the petition is presented. The first petition goes to Mr. Manly, who is joining us via video conference.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a petition that calls on the government to deal with helping our honey bees. They are crucial to our food system. They provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of services to commercial agricultural crops and other ecological services every year, and the European Union has put heavy restrictions on the chemicals that are affecting them, the neonicotinoids. This petition calls on the Government of Canada, for the sake of bees and our food security, to follow Europe's lead and adhere to the precautionary principle by banning the use of neonicotinoids in Canada.


There is so much noise in the background over there, Mr. Chair.

That is a very good point of order. I want to remind everyone that when we speak, it is picked up. We have amazing speakersand an amazing Speaker, but that's a whole other storyand amazing microphones in the chamber, and they do pick up everything. I know there was some chatter going on in the background. I want to make sure everyone is aware of that. Mr. Aboultaif, that was a very good point of order. I appreciate that. For those joining us via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mikes on mute when you're not speaking. Also, please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on the English channel, and if you want to speak in French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate between the two languages, you should change the channel to the language that you are speaking each time you switch languages. Should members participating by video conference wish to request the floor outside their designated speaking times, they should activate their mic and state that they have a point of order. Those in the Chamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings will be televised. I understand that there are no ministerial announcements for today, so we'll continue to the presentation of petitions, for a period not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remind members that any petition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already been certified by the clerk of petitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come and drop the signed certificate off at the table once the petition is presented. The first petition goes to Mr. Manly, who is joining us via video conference.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a petition that calls on the government to deal with helping our honey bees. They are crucial to our food system. They provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of services to commercial agricultural crops and other ecological services every year, and the European Union has put heavy restrictions on the chemicals that are affecting them, the neonicotinoids. This petition calls on the Government of Canada, for the sake of bees and our food security, to follow Europe's lead and adhere to the precautionary principle by banning the use of neonicotinoids in Canada.

The next presenter of petitions will be Mr. Genuis, who is very parliamentary and dressed from the waist up, I understand.


That is a very good point of order. I want to remind everyone that when we speak, it is picked up. We have amazing speakersand an amazing Speaker, but that's a whole other storyand amazing microphones in the chamber, and they do pick up everything. I know there was some chatter going on in the background. I want to make sure everyone is aware of that. Mr. Aboultaif, that was a very good point of order. I appreciate that. For those joining us via video conference, I would like to remind you to leave your mikes on mute when you're not speaking. Also, please note that if you want to speak in English, you should be on the English channel, and if you want to speak in French, you should be on the French channel. Should you wish to alternate between the two languages, you should change the channel to the language that you are speaking each time you switch languages. Should members participating by video conference wish to request the floor outside their designated speaking times, they should activate their mic and state that they have a point of order. Those in the Chamber can rise in the usual way. Please note that today's proceedings will be televised. I understand that there are no ministerial announcements for today, so we'll continue to the presentation of petitions, for a period not exceeding 15 minutes. I would like to remind members that any petition presented during a meeting of the special committee must have already been certified by the clerk of petitions. For members participating in person, we ask that they please come and drop the signed certificate off at the table once the petition is presented. The first petition goes to Mr. Manly, who is joining us via video conference.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a petition that calls on the government to deal with helping our honey bees. They are crucial to our food system. They provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of services to commercial agricultural crops and other ecological services every year, and the European Union has put heavy restrictions on the chemicals that are affecting them, the neonicotinoids. This petition calls on the Government of Canada, for the sake of bees and our food security, to follow Europe's lead and adhere to the precautionary principle by banning the use of neonicotinoids in Canada.

The next presenter of petitions will be Mr. Genuis, who is very parliamentary and dressed from the waist up, I understand.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and that is all you need to see for the moment. Canadians are horrified by the military report on the conditions of long-term care in Ontario. It raises big questions about the choices facing seniors in certain situations, which is what makes this first petition particularly timely. I am tabling a petition related to Bill C-7, the government's euthanasia bill, which seeks to dramatically remove safeguards that the government said were vital only a short time ago. When some people are living in deplorable conditions, we cannot truly speak of them as having a choice of when they ought to die. Especially in light of that new information, I commend this petition for the consideration of members of the House. The second petition is in support of Bill S-204 on organ harvesting and trafficking, put forward in the Senate. The bill would make it a criminal offence for a person to go abroad and receive an organ without the donor's consent. This bill seeks to combat the horrific practice of forced organ harvesting and trafficking.


Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a petition that calls on the government to deal with helping our honey bees. They are crucial to our food system. They provide hundreds of billions of dollars worth of services to commercial agricultural crops and other ecological services every year, and the European Union has put heavy restrictions on the chemicals that are affecting them, the neonicotinoids. This petition calls on the Government of Canada, for the sake of bees and our food security, to follow Europe's lead and adhere to the precautionary principle by banning the use of neonicotinoids in Canada.

The next presenter of petitions will be Mr. Genuis, who is very parliamentary and dressed from the waist up, I understand.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and that is all you need to see for the moment. Canadians are horrified by the military report on the conditions of long-term care in Ontario. It raises big questions about the choices facing seniors in certain situations, which is what makes this first petition particularly timely. I am tabling a petition related to Bill C-7, the government's euthanasia bill, which seeks to dramatically remove safeguards that the government said were vital only a short time ago. When some people are living in deplorable conditions, we cannot truly speak of them as having a choice of when they ought to die. Especially in light of that new information, I commend this petition for the consideration of members of the House. The second petition is in support of Bill S-204 on organ harvesting and trafficking, put forward in the Senate. The bill would make it a criminal offence for a person to go abroad and receive an organ without the donor's consent. This bill seeks to combat the horrific practice of forced organ harvesting and trafficking.

The next petition presenter will be Ms. May.


The next presenter of petitions will be Mr. Genuis, who is very parliamentary and dressed from the waist up, I understand.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and that is all you need to see for the moment. Canadians are horrified by the military report on the conditions of long-term care in Ontario. It raises big questions about the choices facing seniors in certain situations, which is what makes this first petition particularly timely. I am tabling a petition related to Bill C-7, the government's euthanasia bill, which seeks to dramatically remove safeguards that the government said were vital only a short time ago. When some people are living in deplorable conditions, we cannot truly speak of them as having a choice of when they ought to die. Especially in light of that new information, I commend this petition for the consideration of members of the House. The second petition is in support of Bill S-204 on organ harvesting and trafficking, put forward in the Senate. The bill would make it a criminal offence for a person to go abroad and receive an organ without the donor's consent. This bill seeks to combat the horrific practice of forced organ harvesting and trafficking.

The next petition presenter will be Ms. May.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and greetings from SaanichGulf Islands. The petition I'm presenting today is petition e-2509, which has been duly certified. It relates to what I think many of us will regard as the real heroes of the last few months. In this pandemic, there have often been very underpaid and overworked front-line workers who receive minimum wage and nothing more, and who are of course deemed essential services. The petitioners have asked the government to implement a wage supplement as a temporary measure to bring the wages for those who are in contact with the general public and working in what has been deemed an essential service to no less than $20 an hour, in light of their service and the risks they're taking for all of us.


Thank you, Mr. Chair, and that is all you need to see for the moment. Canadians are horrified by the military report on the conditions of long-term care in Ontario. It raises big questions about the choices facing seniors in certain situations, which is what makes this first petition particularly timely. I am tabling a petition related to Bill C-7, the government's euthanasia bill, which seeks to dramatically remove safeguards that the government said were vital only a short time ago. When some people are living in deplorable conditions, we cannot truly speak of them as having a choice of when they ought to die. Especially in light of that new information, I commend this petition for the consideration of members of the House. The second petition is in support of Bill S-204 on organ harvesting and trafficking, put forward in the Senate. The bill would make it a criminal offence for a person to go abroad and receive an organ without the donor's consent. This bill seeks to combat the horrific practice of forced organ harvesting and trafficking.

The next petition presenter will be Ms. May.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and greetings from SaanichGulf Islands. The petition I'm presenting today is petition e-2509, which has been duly certified. It relates to what I think many of us will regard as the real heroes of the last few months. In this pandemic, there have often been very underpaid and overworked front-line workers who receive minimum wage and nothing more, and who are of course deemed essential services. The petitioners have asked the government to implement a wage supplement as a temporary measure to bring the wages for those who are in contact with the general public and working in what has been deemed an essential service to no less than $20 an hour, in light of their service and the risks they're taking for all of us.

We have a point of order from Ms. Harder.


The next petition presenter will be Ms. May.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and greetings from SaanichGulf Islands. The petition I'm presenting today is petition e-2509, which has been duly certified. It relates to what I think many of us will regard as the real heroes of the last few months. In this pandemic, there have often been very underpaid and overworked front-line workers who receive minimum wage and nothing more, and who are of course deemed essential services. The petitioners have asked the government to implement a wage supplement as a temporary measure to bring the wages for those who are in contact with the general public and working in what has been deemed an essential service to no less than $20 an hour, in light of their service and the risks they're taking for all of us.

We have a point of order from Ms. Harder.

Mr. Chair, the honourable member who just spoke brought up a great point yesterday. She said that when we present petitions, we are simply supposed to give one or two sentences before putting them on the table. I believe that was more than one or two sentences.


Thank you, Mr. Chair, and greetings from SaanichGulf Islands. The petition I'm presenting today is petition e-2509, which has been duly certified. It relates to what I think many of us will regard as the real heroes of the last few months. In this pandemic, there have often been very underpaid and overworked front-line workers who receive minimum wage and nothing more, and who are of course deemed essential services. The petitioners have asked the government to implement a wage supplement as a temporary measure to bring the wages for those who are in contact with the general public and working in what has been deemed an essential service to no less than $20 an hour, in light of their service and the risks they're taking for all of us.

We have a point of order from Ms. Harder.

Mr. Chair, the honourable member who just spoke brought up a great point yesterday. She said that when we present petitions, we are simply supposed to give one or two sentences before putting them on the table. I believe that was more than one or two sentences.

I want to remind honourable members that when they are presenting petitions, they should be very concise with the prcis that they give up front, as opposed to going on for a long time. Now we will proceed to statements by members for a period not exceeding 15 minutes, and each statement will be for one minute. We will start with Mr. Fonseca.


We have a point of order from Ms. Harder.

Mr. Chair, the honourable member who just spoke brought up a great point yesterday. She said that when we present petitions, we are simply supposed to give one or two sentences before putting them on the table. I believe that was more than one or two sentences.

I want to remind honourable members that when they are presenting petitions, they should be very concise with the prcis that they give up front, as opposed to going on for a long time. Now we will proceed to statements by members for a period not exceeding 15 minutes, and each statement will be for one minute. We will start with Mr. Fonseca.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Today I am honoured to recognize the youth in my riding of Mississauga EastCooksville who are part of the 52nd Mississauga Scouts. For over a decade, I've had the great opportunity to join the Scouts every year during the month of May for the door-to-door food drives. This year has been a lot different, owing to the COVID situation, but our Scouts are not used to saying the word impossible. David Chant, head leader for their cub pack, reached out to share that the youth have found innovative ways to engage our community through a virtual food bank. I say a big thank you to Scout leaders like David, who are strong role models for our youth, teaching them the importance of leadership, kindness and giving back. I've always been amazed with the support within our community for the Scouts' food drive. David and his group of Scouts raised over $46,000 worth of food last year for the Mississauga Food Bank and The Compass. Again, I give a huge virtual high-five to all of our young Scouts, who have taken the lead with lots of compassion and care.