No , it can be disturbed by by noise and

Yeah but lets just say that the speech recognition works.


No , it can be disturbed by by noise and

Yeah but lets just say that the speech recognition works.

stuff like that. Let let let me see what's more what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.


Yeah but lets just say that the speech recognition works.

stuff like that. Let let let me see what's more what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.


Yeah but lets just say that the speech recognition works.

stuff like that. Let let let me see what's more what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.

I have to look on that. Let me see.  Uh well no I was wrong.


stuff like that. Let let let me see what's more what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.

I have to look on that. Let me see.  Uh well no I was wrong.

There are more people who like speech recognition than an L_C_D_ screen.


I have to look on that. Let me see.  Uh well no I was wrong.

There are more people who like speech recognition than an L_C_D_ screen.

Yep. Okay. Because if you d lose the L_C_D_ screen , we  need a lot of


I have to look on that. Let me see.  Uh well no I was wrong.

There are more people who like speech recognition than an L_C_D_ screen.

Yep. Okay. Because if you d lose the L_C_D_ screen , we  need a lot of

But if it   But it it  it's a it's a both a hypers


There are more people who like speech recognition than an L_C_D_ screen.

Yep. Okay. Because if you d lose the L_C_D_ screen , we  need a lot of

But if it   But it it  it's a it's a both a hypers


Yep. Okay. Because if you d lose the L_C_D_ screen , we  need a lot of

But if it   But it it  it's a it's a both a hypers


But if it   But it it  it's a it's a both a hypers


Well we Yeah we keep the screen. I mean it's it's about the same. Eight one to ninety one percent , uh sixty six to seventy six.


Well we Yeah we keep the screen. I mean it's it's about the same. Eight one to ninety one percent , uh sixty six to seventy six.

We uh we we haven't really integrated this  the speech into the system ,


We uh we we haven't really integrated this  the speech into the system ,


Okay. S Fo Four less Euros. So we still have three and a half Euro to lose.


Yeah if you lose the the Back , the Okay button  Uh v let's say we only have the four arrows , and the Menu button.


The the  Okay. And the menu button does also does the okay function then.


If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons , we can drop all the the push-buttons.


If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons , we can drop all the the push-buttons.

With with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing. With the other , we can do the the channel , the volume , et cetera.


With with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing. With the other , we can do the the channel , the volume , et cetera.

That would save zero point two Euros compared to  No.


That would save zero point two Euros compared to  No.

Yeah. To This together is more expensive than  Oof , it's almost the same as t keeping this.


Yeah. To This together is more expensive than  Oof , it's almost the same as t keeping this.


For example if you have f f four buttons ,  channel up and down , uh volume left right


For example if you have f f four buttons ,  channel up and down , uh volume left right

Okay , I've  I think we have to keep that.


Okay , I've  I think we have to keep that.

And then  and the power button. So that's five.


And then  and the power button. So that's five.

That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu , um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel , the the the menu gets activated , and then you can scroll , choose an option , click on it , it goes into an feature. Click on it again , selects features , scroll , adjust it. Click again , it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option , you set a  you set an a screen thing what says back , and you select that one , click again , and you go one step back. And in that menu , scroll , click , one step back.


And then  and the power button. So that's five.

That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu , um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel , the the the menu gets activated , and then you can scroll , choose an option , click on it , it goes into an feature. Click on it again , selects features , scroll , adjust it. Click again , it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option , you set a  you set an a screen thing what says back , and you select that one , click again , and you go one step back. And in that menu , scroll , click , one step back.

So that then you need five buttons , and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.


That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu , um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel , the the the menu gets activated , and then you can scroll , choose an option , click on it , it goes into an feature. Click on it again , selects features , scroll , adjust it. Click again , it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option , you set a  you set an a screen thing what says back , and you select that one , click again , and you go one step back. And in that menu , scroll , click , one step back.

So that then you need five buttons , and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.


So that then you need five buttons , and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.


Because which buttons do we have now ? Those five which I mentioned , and then menu , and then


and one to activate the menu , yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display.


and one to activate the menu , yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display.

Yeah , and even if we drop three buttons from here , we still have to make some adjustments around here. So


and one to activate the menu , yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display.

Yeah , and even if we drop three buttons from here , we still have to make some adjustments around here. So

Yeah , we need the chip for the for the L_C_ display.


Yeah , and even if we drop three buttons from here , we still have to make some adjustments around here. So

Yeah , we need the chip for the for the L_C_ display.


Yeah , we need the chip for the for the L_C_ display.

Let's make the  Let's make the case plastic.


Let's make the  Let's make the case plastic.


Because then also it's good in the market with the forty five plus uh people.


No that  maybe not. But maybe it's better than plastic anyway.


Because we have to use the special colour anyway. You forgot that.


And since it's not kinetic , it doesn't have to flip around that much ?


No the buttons , those are really needed.


Do we really need that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display ?


Do we really need that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display ?

You  uh uh  Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker , and  Which can use a regular chip , wh which is six Euros in total.


Do we really need that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display ?

You  uh uh  Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker , and  Which can use a regular chip , wh which is six Euros in total.

Oh. I rather keep I rather keep the display.


You  uh uh  Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker , and  Which can use a regular chip , wh which is six Euros in total.

Oh. I rather keep I rather keep the display.

No , I keep the re Yeah. Yeah. Because we already designed for it. So


Oh. I rather keep I rather keep the display.

No , I keep the re Yeah. Yeah. Because we already designed for it. So


No , I keep the re Yeah. Yeah. Because we already designed for it. So


uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button ? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And then if w


uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button ? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And then if w

And then integrated s Yeah but that would make it not so easy to use.


uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button ? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And then if w

And then integrated s Yeah but that would make it not so easy to use.

I mean it's not that important , easy to use , but


And then integrated s Yeah but that would make it not so easy to use.

I mean it's not that important , easy to use , but


I mean it's not that important , easy to use , but

Th then we have to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want , huh ?


I mean it's not that important , easy to use , but

Th then we have to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want , huh ?

Then you still need two additional buttons I believe.


Th then we have to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want , huh ?

Then you still need two additional buttons I believe.


Then you still need two additional buttons I believe.


Yeah d at l Yeah. At least one for power.


Yeah d at l Yeah. At least one for power.

Oh yeah and power. That's three buttons and this would cost


Oh yeah and power. That's three buttons and this would cost

Oh. Yeah it's just as expensive as what we have now.


Oh yeah and power. That's three buttons and this would cost

Oh. Yeah it's just as expensive as what we have now.

But the integrated uh button ? How many func functions can it uh have ?


Oh. Yeah it's just as expensive as what we have now.

But the integrated uh button ? How many func functions can it uh have ?

Yeah endlessly. I mean it can be a power button as soon as it powered on.


But the integrated uh button ? How many func functions can it uh have ?

Yeah endlessly. I mean it can be a power button as soon as it powered on.


Yeah endlessly. I mean it can be a power button as soon as it powered on.


Yeah endlessly. I mean it can be a power button as soon as it powered on.

You you press it for like three seconds.


You you press it for like three seconds.

you can choose uh flip channel , uh you can choose sound options , any options.


You you press it for like three seconds.

you can choose uh flip channel , uh you can choose sound options , any options.

Then then then you should do everything in the menu. On the screen.


you can choose uh flip channel , uh you can choose sound options , any options.

Then then then you should do everything in the menu. On the screen.


Then then then you should do everything in the menu. On the screen.

Maybe we should. 'Cause we don't have money and w we want the screen.


Maybe we should. 'Cause we don't have money and w we want the screen.

Yeah you can choose this , drop these , then we have a half Euro left.


Yeah you can choose this , drop these , then we have a half Euro left.


It s it saves us four Euros and it costs us two and a half. So let's see , we we drop the price by one and a half.


Oh still  Yeah ? Oh then I miscalculated. Oh yeah.


Well   That would make it less appealing. So that's no option.


Well   That would make it less appealing. So that's no option.

We sure about the advanced chip we need for the display ?


We sure about the advanced chip we need for the display ?


Well yeah.   yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display , but it's a cool feature.


Well yeah.   yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display , but it's a cool feature.

Ah , I don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say , this is better for the market so you sell more than


Well yeah.   yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display , but it's a cool feature.

Ah , I don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say , this is better for the market so you sell more than

Okay. Wh what we could do is um  drop the the special colour , and uh do the special colour for the buttons.


Ah , I don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say , this is better for the market so you sell more than

Okay. Wh what we could do is um  drop the the special colour , and uh do the special colour for the buttons.

Buttons. That's  Oh yeah since we only have one button.


Okay. Wh what we could do is um  drop the the special colour , and uh do the special colour for the buttons.

Buttons. That's  Oh yeah since we only have one button.


Buttons. That's  Oh yeah since we only have one button.

Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour ?


Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour ?

Just something else than than black or white I think.


Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour ?

Just something else than than black or white I think.

Uh yeah it's  I think it's grey , regular.


Just something else than than black or white I think.

Uh yeah it's  I think it's grey , regular.


Uh yeah it's  I think it's grey , regular.

But we definitely want the thing to be a special colour though.


But we definitely want the thing to be a special colour though.


So I rather have an hand dynamo  than than drop the colour.


You can still play with it then I guess. I don't know.


You can still play with it then I guess. I don't know.

Yeah , but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working. So I guess that isn't an option.


Yeah , but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working. So I guess that isn't an option.

Well , you only have to power it up when you wanna use it.


Well , you only have to power it up when you wanna use it.

The  But if you have to power the for ten minutes ,  then the


The  But if you have to power the for ten minutes ,  then the


No I don't think the current status of uh chips are pretty uh energy conserving , no.


Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then.


Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then.

Yeah hand dynamo ? Do you want an extra button ?


Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then.

Yeah hand dynamo ? Do you want an extra button ?

Or or do we  Or do we do uncurved and flat ? Instead of


Yeah hand dynamo ? Do you want an extra button ?

Or or do we  Or do we do uncurved and flat ? Instead of


Or or do we  Or do we do uncurved and flat ? Instead of

Yeah it has to be curved and has to have that colour.


Yeah it has to be curved and has to have that colour.

Yeah. Just put a special special colour of the buttons , or something.


Yeah. Just put a special special colour of the buttons , or something.


Yep ? Instead of an additional power button ?


Yep ? Instead of an additional power button ?

Yeah. S what what is special f Oh yeah , special form.


Yeah. S what what is special f Oh yeah , special form.


Yeah. But it's it's for the integrated button , I think also. Or


Yeah but it's just a scroll-wheel which you can push down. So


Yeah but it's just a scroll-wheel which you can push down. So

Okay. Make it a special colour and then it look fancy.


Okay. Make it a special colour and then it look fancy.


oh ma make it two special colours , but we only have one button.


oh ma make it two special colours , but we only have one button.

Let's do it like this , I mean , because it does not lose our identity of the product as we


Let's do it like this , I mean , because it does not lose our identity of the product as we

Yeah ?  Okay. Um , well  . 'Kay , this was old.


Let's do it like this , I mean , because it does not lose our identity of the product as we

Yeah ?  Okay. Um , well  . 'Kay , this was old.

Well we come back to the drawing board then , huh ?


Yeah ?  Okay. Um , well  . 'Kay , this was old.

Well we come back to the drawing board then , huh ?

Yeah all your designs are uh pretty much


Well we come back to the drawing board then , huh ?

Yeah all your designs are uh pretty much


Yeah all your designs are uh pretty much


Yeah all your designs are uh pretty much

It's silly 'cause we we should have had this meeting before we start drawing.


It's silly 'cause we we should have had this meeting before we start drawing.


It's silly 'cause we we should have had this meeting before we start drawing.

Yeah but that but that's the fun part of it.


It's silly 'cause we we should have had this meeting before we start drawing.

Yeah but that but that's the fun part of it.

I I wanted to go , but I wasn't allowed. So


Yeah but that but that's the fun part of it.

I I wanted to go , but I wasn't allowed. So


I I wanted to go , but I wasn't allowed. So

Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute.   .


Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute.   .


Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute.   .

Yeah , this the last phase of course , so


Yeah , this the last phase of course , so


Well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation. But well as you saw that hadn't made no sense , because we had to drop it.


Uh , evaluation criteria. You have t produced something about that ?


Uh , evaluation criteria. You have t produced something about that ?

Yeah that that's  Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so


Uh , evaluation criteria. You have t produced something about that ?

Yeah that that's  Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so

We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the  Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements.


Yeah that that's  Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so

We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the  Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements.


We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the  Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements.


Let's make it big.  Um  Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale , as following. Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah. True or false , and then on a scale of seven points , a  scale , as we all know it.


Let's make it big.  Um  Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale , as following. Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah. True or false , and then on a scale of seven points , a  scale , as we all know it.

Um  Well the criteria are based on the user requirements , uh the trends from the marketing research , and the marketing strategy of the company itself. Um well they are in a Word document , which I will open now.


Um  Well the criteria are based on the user requirements , uh the trends from the marketing research , and the marketing strategy of the company itself. Um well they are in a Word document , which I will open now.

Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this ?


Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this ?

Oh. I don't know. Um  Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that ?


Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this ?

Oh. I don't know. Um  Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that ?

I think it does. Because the operating  behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_ ,


Oh. I don't know. Um  Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that ?

I think it does. Because the operating  behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_ ,


I think it does. Because the operating  behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_ ,

Uh , of course we dropped a little bit of those uh


Uh , of course we dropped a little bit of those uh


Uh , of course we dropped a little bit of those uh

it's it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions , in this question.


it's it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions , in this question.


it's it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions , in this question.

Well , we have extended menus , on the on the L_C_D_ screen. So


Well , we have extended menus , on the on the L_C_D_ screen. So


Well , we have extended menus , on the on the L_C_D_ screen. So

Yeah , you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited , to to build in menus in the screen.


Yeah , you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited , to to build in menus in the screen.


Yeah , you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited , to to build in menus in the screen.

So on a scale from one to seven , what do you think ?


So on a scale from one to seven , what do you think ?

Huh ? Two or three ? Something like that ?


Huh ? Two or three ? Something like that ?


Huh ? Two or three ? Something like that ?

Well we have to choose one. So uh what do you say ?


Well we have to choose one. So uh what do you say ?


Yeah in the new design I s would say it's three. But now , in original design I say two.


Yeah in the new design I s would say it's three. But now , in original design I say two.

Yeah well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now.


Yeah well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now.


Three ? Okay well I say still two , but it has to be three then.


Three ? Okay well I say still two , but it has to be three then.

Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's  nah , it's not very clear on the sc


Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's  nah , it's not very clear on the sc


Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's  nah , it's not very clear on the sc

Maybe other colour , yeah. That's better.


Maybe other colour , yeah. That's better.


Maybe other colour , yeah. That's better.

Uh  Yeah. Alright. Oh , it doesn't have to be bold anymore.


Uh  Yeah. Alright. Oh , it doesn't have to be bold anymore.


The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings and screen settings.


The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings and screen settings.

Everything.  You don't use anything else.


The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings and screen settings.

Everything.  You don't use anything else.

Yeah. Well , yeah. So it it's a very true point. I mean it hides all those function.


Everything.  You don't use anything else.

Yeah. Well , yeah. So it it's a very true point. I mean it hides all those function.


Yeah. Well , yeah. So it it's a very true point. I mean it hides all those function.


But , I mean uh they're hidden in the screen. If you don't want to use them , you don't s you s just scroll over them. And you place them


But , I mean uh they're hidden in the screen. If you don't want to use them , you don't s you s just scroll over them. And you place them

F I don't know where. So that's very true , I guess , for our case.


F I don't know where. So that's very true , I guess , for our case.

Uh the second point. It shows the relevant and most used functions.


Uh the second point. It shows the relevant and most used functions.

Power button. Do we ha still have a power button ?


Power button. Do we ha still have a power button ?

Well yeah the button's integrated , huh ?


Well yeah the button's integrated , huh ?


Well yeah the button's integrated , huh ?

Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push it in for


Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push it in for

It's in  Oh yeah it was integrateds. Yeah.


Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push it in for

It's in  Oh yeah it was integrateds. Yeah.

Yeah just just push it in for th for three seconds or something , and then


It's in  Oh yeah it was integrateds. Yeah.

Yeah just just push it in for th for three seconds or something , and then


Yeah just just push it in for th for three seconds or something , and then


Yeah. Um it shows the relevant and most used functions.


Yeah. Um it shows the relevant and most used functions.

Yeah uh on the other  uh on one side I would say yes , and the other side I would say no. So it's  I don't know.


Yeah. Um it shows the relevant and most used functions.

Yeah uh on the other  uh on one side I would say yes , and the other side I would say no. So it's  I don't know.

It shows the most used functions and they are relevant , but


Yeah. Um it shows the relevant and most used functions.

Yeah uh on the other  uh on one side I would say yes , and the other side I would say no. So it's  I don't know.

It shows the most used functions and they are relevant , but

Can you uh change channels directly with with just one button ?


Yeah uh on the other  uh on one side I would say yes , and the other side I would say no. So it's  I don't know.

It shows the most used functions and they are relevant , but

Can you uh change channels directly with with just one button ?


It shows the most used functions and they are relevant , but

Can you uh change channels directly with with just one button ?

No , you have to scroll through the menu , before


Can you uh change channels directly with with just one button ?

No , you have to scroll through the menu , before

With the scroll butt Yeah and then say channel. And then


No , you have to scroll through the menu , before

With the scroll butt Yeah and then say channel. And then


No , you have to scroll through the menu , before

With the scroll butt Yeah and then say channel. And then

Well uh we should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something , if  When it's on , yeah , it's turned on ,


With the scroll butt Yeah and then say channel. And then

Well uh we should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something , if  When it's on , yeah , it's turned on ,


Well uh we should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something , if  When it's on , yeah , it's turned on ,


Well uh we should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something , if  When it's on , yeah , it's turned on ,

It automatically has the the programme and the volume function ,


It automatically has the the programme and the volume function ,


It automatically has the the programme and the volume function ,

but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some   Of you


but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some   Of you


but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some   Of you

But but how do you change from volume to channel ?


But but how do you change from volume to channel ?


Because he's  now have a scroll-wheel that you can push in.


Yeah I was thinking still about our uh integrated joystick.


Yeah I was thinking still about our uh integrated joystick.

No we have n we have no buttons left. So


No we have n we have no buttons left. So


So you you have to double-click , I mean , for , I mean , uh volume ,


So you you have to double-click , I mean , for , I mean , uh volume ,

and three double click for the menu , or something.


and three double click for the menu , or something.


But but ease of use was not very important , may I remind you.


Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions.


Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions.

Well I think it's pretty much in the middle.


Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions.

Well I think it's pretty much in the middle.

You have to search for them in in the in the s in the screen , in the menu. So


Well I think it's pretty much in the middle.

You have to search for them in in the in the s in the screen , in the menu. So


You have to search for them in in the in the s in the screen , in the menu. So


It's the weirdest remote control I've ever seen. So


Yeah. Alright. Uh the the remote control makes use of technolog technological innovation like L_C_D_ screen and speech recognition.


Yeah. Alright. Uh the the remote control makes use of technolog technological innovation like L_C_D_ screen and speech recognition.

Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition. But it has at least one innovation.


Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition. But it has at least one innovation.


Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition. But it has at least one innovation.

We still have the fruit and vegetable print.


We still have the fruit and vegetable print.


We still have the fruit and vegetable print.

Yeah but   that that's not that's not this question. Uh thi uh that's the other question.


Yeah but   that that's not that's not this question. Uh thi uh that's the other question.

Fr Oh I mean the  Oh never mind. I'm a bit lost.


Fr Oh I mean the  Oh never mind. I'm a bit lost.


I think L_C_D_'s more useful than speech


Right. Okay , it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints , primary colours and sponge-like material.


Right. Okay , it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints , primary colours and sponge-like material.

It should have been two questions.  I realise now , because  sponge-like material is dropped.


It should have been two questions.  I realise now , because  sponge-like material is dropped.


It should have been two questions.  I realise now , because  sponge-like material is dropped.

Yeah. So we still uh we still have the primary colours. But only on the on the outside , not on the button.


Yeah. So we still uh we still have the primary colours. But only on the on the outside , not on the button.


Yeah. Yeah still we we dropped also on the the double uh curve.


Yeah. Yeah still we we dropped also on the the double uh curve.

Yeah you could check with the Excel sheet.


Yeah you could check with the Excel sheet.


Actually we d we didn't do so well on this one. Because it's basically an old one , uh with little curve on the side , and in a different colour. Still , it's still hard.


Actually we d we didn't do so well on this one. Because it's basically an old one , uh with little curve on the side , and in a different colour. Still , it's still hard.

I mean the sponge-like and the three D_ shape , that would give it something young and fresh.


I mean the sponge-like and the three D_ shape , that would give it something young and fresh.

Yeah. But then we would have to drop the screen.


Yeah. But then we would have to drop the screen.


Uh the remote control displays the corporate logo.


Yeah but it  be because uh we couldn't hardly draw on the b s on the lower half of the screen , we could not make it big enough to actually draw in the


So I mean I wanted to put digits on the buttons as well. But


So I mean I wanted to put digits on the buttons as well. But

But there's uh enough space for the corporate logo. I mean ,  if there's only one thing.


But there's uh enough space for the corporate logo. I mean ,  if there's only one thing.


And even the shape we have now uh simulates kind of an R_ and the reversed R_ ,


The remote control is easy to use. Well I would say


The remote control is easy to use. Well I would say

Skill , uh I would say six , or something. I don't think it's easy to use , or not so.


The remote control is easy to use. Well I would say

Skill , uh I would say six , or something. I don't think it's easy to use , or not so.

The only e the only thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers. 'Cause it has only one button.


Skill , uh I would say six , or something. I don't think it's easy to use , or not so.

The only e the only thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers. 'Cause it has only one button.


The only e the only thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers. 'Cause it has only one button.

And that you only have to control one button.


And that you only have to control one button.


And that you only have to control one button.

Yeah. It it it has a nice screen. But  Yeah.


Yeah. It it it has a nice screen. But  Yeah.

Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six.


Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six.


Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six.

What do you say ? Easy to use ? Five or a six ?


What do you say ? Easy to use ? Five or a six ?


Yeah , uh I would go for the six too. So


I don't know if that's the correct word.


I don't know if that's the correct word.

Definitely in casing , 'cause we have a hard plastic


I don't know if that's the correct word.

Definitely in casing , 'cause we have a hard plastic

But uh  In use , both battery as casing ?


Definitely in casing , 'cause we have a hard plastic

But uh  In use , both battery as casing ?

Yeah. Yeah because the the batteries , those thingies last forever.


But uh  In use , both battery as casing ?

Yeah. Yeah because the the batteries , those thingies last forever.

And the the casing , hard plastic also lasts forever.


Yeah. Yeah because the the batteries , those thingies last forever.

And the the casing , hard plastic also lasts forever.


And the the casing , hard plastic also lasts forever.


And the the casing , hard plastic also lasts forever.

Yeah. If you don't drop it too much , it's uh should last pretty long.


Yeah. If you don't drop it too much , it's uh should last pretty long.


Yeah. If you don't drop it too much , it's uh should last pretty long.

Yeah ? But uh I think rubber compared is better. So I think a two is more appropriate


Yeah ? But uh I think rubber compared is better. So I think a two is more appropriate


Okay I will go  go for two.  Uh the last one ? The remote control's a good example for company's motto , we put the fashion in electronics.


Okay I will go  go for two.  Uh the last one ? The remote control's a good example for company's motto , we put the fashion in electronics.

No we put the electronics into the fashion.


No we put the electronics into the fashion.


Because we kind of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have.


Because we kind of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have.

So a four. It's   it g it g goes , it's not the best we could do , I guess.


So a four. It's   it g it g goes , it's not the best we could do , I guess.


So a four. It's   it g it g goes , it's not the best we could do , I guess.

But it all has to do with the budget , because it's it's not the bad idea we had , so


But it all has to do with the budget , because it's it's not the bad idea we had , so


So if I understood it right , we have to count these numbers.


Uh  Yeah just add them and then uh divide them.


I all made it possible uh for a positive questions , so we can count it.


I all made it possible uh for a positive questions , so we can count it.

I mean if you have reversed question , you have to reverse the scale ,


I mean if you have reversed question , you have to reverse the scale ,


Yeah. Did you make this questionnaire or what ?


No it's if you press twice on the plus button , then you get s s


No it's if you press twice on the plus button , then you get s s

Oh there tho uh there's no n There's no num pads.


Oh there tho uh there's no n There's no num pads.


Just type in the digits. They're all one digit numbers right ? And then you can count them together.


Just type in the digits. They're all one digit numbers right ? And then you can count them together.

Yeah. I think you can just count them by a


Yeah. I think you can just count them by a


That's uh three uh   Or le less than a three.


That's uh three uh   Or le less than a three.

Yeah the lower the  The lower the score the better , right ?


Yeah the lower the  The lower the score the better , right ?


makes three point one one one one one one one.


I Are you sure we  this number actually tells us somethings ?


I Are you sure we  this number actually tells us somethings ?

I don't think so because some questions are related to positive issues and some to negative.


I don't think so because some questions are related to positive issues and some to negative.

So if you give a true to a positive , it actually means that the low  the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question


I don't think so because some questions are related to positive issues and some to negative.

So if you give a true to a positive , it actually means that the low  the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question

Yeah , but there are no negative questions I guess.


So if you give a true to a positive , it actually means that the low  the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question

Yeah , but there are no negative questions I guess.


Yeah , but there are no negative questions I guess.


Technology innovation was good , because of a marketing uh requirement.


And hides these functions.  That was also a good thing.


And hides these functions.  That was also a good thing.

And then matches the opera of the  user was also a good thing.


And then matches the opera of the  user was also a good thing.


And then matches the opera of the  user was also a good thing.

So it were all positive questions , by uh by purpose. So


So it were all positive questions , by uh by purpose. So


So it were all positive questions , by uh by purpose. So

Yes , so the  It tells us something , yes. Becau But the picture would be a lot different if we didn't have to drop those uh those things , I guess.


Yes , so the  It tells us something , yes. Becau But the picture would be a lot different if we didn't have to drop those uh those things , I guess.


Because now it's just an average  It's remote.


Because now it's just an average  It's remote.

Yeah. Nah it it's it's better than average , but


Because now it's just an average  It's remote.

Yeah. Nah it it's it's better than average , but

Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But uh it looks and stuff , it still uh


Yeah. Nah it it's it's better than average , but

Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But uh it looks and stuff , it still uh


Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But uh it looks and stuff , it still uh


it's not , it's not really eye-catching , except for the colour.


Okay so   Um this we had , this we had. We have to do a product evaluation.


Okay so   Um this we had , this we had. We have to do a product evaluation.

Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So  Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that , but


Okay so   Um this we had , this we had. We have to do a product evaluation.

Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So  Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that , but

Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this


Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So  Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that , but

Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this

So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen.


Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this

So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen.


So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen.


Black. Okay uh we're still gonna go for the fancy colours ?


Black. Okay uh we're still gonna go for the fancy colours ?

But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue ?


But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue ?


But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue ?

Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh uh the green uh


But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue ?

Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh uh the green uh

The the button has a special colour , the frame has a special colour.


Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh uh the green uh

The the button has a special colour , the frame has a special colour.


The the button has a special colour , the frame has a special colour.


Oh and you might want to add a uh infrared LED.


Oh and you might want to add a uh infrared LED.

Otherwise it uh doesn't function uh so well.


Otherwise it uh doesn't function uh so well.


Well I have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far.


Well I have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far.

And I try to get chip just before uh I uh receive the Excel sheet.


And I try to get chip just before uh I uh receive the Excel sheet.


Yeah I'm I'm somewhere , but maybe you can help me.


Okay , but how do we make the the scroll uh button ?


The the target group has a weak spot for fruit and vegetables , like primary colours , spongy shape.


The the target group has a weak spot for fruit and vegetables , like primary colours , spongy shape.

Um pen yeah ? Format. Current colour red.


The the target group has a weak spot for fruit and vegetables , like primary colours , spongy shape.

Um pen yeah ? Format. Current colour red.

The playfulness , we decided to use kinetic energy as a power sour


Um pen yeah ? Format. Current colour red.

The playfulness , we decided to use kinetic energy as a power sour

Oh  Yeah we did our special colour for the


The playfulness , we decided to use kinetic energy as a power sour

Oh  Yeah we did our special colour for the


Oh  Yeah we did our special colour for the


Uh , I just took one for every step and then a conclusion.


Uh , I just took one for every step and then a conclusion.

Alright. Y you have you have done the first two.


Alright. Y you have you have done the first two.


Well I think I have to make a p an issue called finance.


Uh it  it's it's not  Yeah. It's not very fashionable anymore. But uh it's okay.


Or not ? Or twenty six ? Something like that.


Or not ? Or twenty six ? Something like that.

Yeah. That looks little bit more uh  Maybe that's a s a special colour for it. So we can make it uh special ?


Yeah. That looks little bit more uh  Maybe that's a s a special colour for it. So we can make it uh special ?

What do you mean ? Like a other colour than this one ?


What do you mean ? Like a other colour than this one ?


What do you mean ? Like a other colour than this one ?

Yeah can we do it uh  uh can we do a print ?


Yeah can we do it uh  uh can we do a print ?


Yeah can we do it uh  uh can we do a print ?

.... I don't think so , if you see the options. But


.... I don't think so , if you see the options. But


.... I don't think so , if you see the options. But

Okay special colour. We do have special colour.


Okay special colour. We do have special colour.

Yeah red is already a special colour , I think. So


Yeah red is already a special colour , I think. So


Shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty ?


Shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty ?

Yeah. Just uh put the purple uh purple on it.


Yeah. Just uh put the purple uh purple on it.


.... We have the original balance sheet , or


No. But can we delete it , just with delete ? Or


No. But can we delete it , just with delete ? Or

That doesn't respond also to the undo. It looks like it's


That doesn't respond also to the undo. It looks like it's


Maybe maybe it c it can say that. The Real Remote.


Maybe maybe it c it can say that. The Real Remote.

Yeah just on the the m um the L_C_D_ display.


Yeah just on the the m um the L_C_D_ display.


I mean it's not too uh  That's not their logo , is it ?


I mean it's not too uh  That's not their logo , is it ?

No. Do they have a lo  Oh , the  here. This i this is the logo.


No. Do they have a lo  Oh , the  here. This i this is the logo.


Yeah. You can just reuse that , because the name is the same. Initials.


Yeah. You can just reuse that , because the name is the same. Initials.

You can copy and paste the picture if you want.


Yeah. You can just reuse that , because the name is the same. Initials.

You can copy and paste the picture if you want.

How   Shall we do the logo in black or not ?


You can copy and paste the picture if you want.

How   Shall we do the logo in black or not ?


How   Shall we do the logo in black or not ?

Yeah.  What is that ? Look more  Looks more like a campfire.


Yeah.  What is that ? Look more  Looks more like a campfire.

Are you dissing my drawing ?  This one ?


Are you dissing my drawing ?  This one ?


So who wants to draw ? This is actually quite fun. Do we need to do anything ?


What time do we have to deliver the report ? Four o'clock or


It looks like there's a  It looks like a butterfly.


Yeah , and don't know how it's  or eject it.


B It's a normal T_V_ screen , kind of thing.


B It's a normal T_V_ screen , kind of thing.

Hey , you've got it uh read only. So you have to uh


Hey , you've got it uh read only. So you have to uh

Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection from behind , I guess.


Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection from behind , I guess.


Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection from behind , I guess.

Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think.


Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think.


Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think.

With a with a mirror , huh ? Or something.


With a with a mirror , huh ? Or something.


With a with a mirror , huh ? Or something.

So it looks like a big screen , but   in fact it isn't.


So it looks like a big screen , but   in fact it isn't.

So are we gonna change anything to this ?


So are we gonna change anything to this ?


It's now single curved. So  It's flat. Oh no.


But it's it's better to have in the front , this kind of shape , because it looks nice.


But it's it's better to have in the front , this kind of shape , because it looks nice.

I mean you see more of this than of that.


I mean you see more of this than of that.


But sometimes then uh all of a sudden it does work.


No it's  I think you only need two points. Or not. No , you sh


No it's  I think you only need two points. Or not. No , you sh

I thought it was a kind of thing to put it on , and then draw right lines or something.


No it's  I think you only need two points. Or not. No , you sh

I thought it was a kind of thing to put it on , and then draw right lines or something.

Maybe that's why it's it's not working , because it's more


I thought it was a kind of thing to put it on , and then draw right lines or something.

Maybe that's why it's it's not working , because it's more


Maybe that's why it's it's not working , because it's more


Yeah it it matters for the aim of this thing.


Yeah it it has to touch the corners , I guess. But th this one wasn't good , because if I was drawing here , I drew a line and then it came over here.


Yeah it it has to touch the corners , I guess. But th this one wasn't good , because if I was drawing here , I drew a line and then it came over here.

Um now you probably have to recalibrate.


Yeah it it has to touch the corners , I guess. But th this one wasn't good , because if I was drawing here , I drew a line and then it came over here.

Um now you probably have to recalibrate.

Oh , five minutes to the end of the meeting.


Um now you probably have to recalibrate.

Oh , five minutes to the end of the meeting.


Oh , five minutes to the end of the meeting.


Oh , five minutes to the end of the meeting.

And the recalibration is done using this icon here.


And the recalibration is done using this icon here.


Yeah yeah , it's it's okay. It's working again.


Yeah yeah , it's it's okay. It's working again.

Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah , it's it's working , it's working.


Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah , it's it's working , it's working.


Yeah it's only a bit like to that side , but that is that one by the way.


Yeah it's only a bit like to that side , but that is that one by the way.

Yeah. Yeah but it's better , it's better


Yeah it's only a bit like to that side , but that is that one by the way.

Yeah. Yeah but it's better , it's better

'Cause this one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this , it will go there , if I change that , will go there.


Yeah. Yeah but it's better , it's better

'Cause this one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this , it will go there , if I change that , will go there.

Mm. No. It's better than it was I guess.


'Cause this one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this , it will go there , if I change that , will go there.

Mm. No. It's better than it was I guess.

Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.


'Cause this one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this , it will go there , if I change that , will go there.

Mm. No. It's better than it was I guess.

Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.

Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the meeting's over.


Mm. No. It's better than it was I guess.

Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.

Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the meeting's over.


Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.

Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the meeting's over.


Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the meeting's over.


and I don't know if you have to present , because I didn't receive any information about that so far.


So it  after the  after after these five minutes , you have to


So it  after the  after after these five minutes , you have to

Yeah.  Yeah , I have still ten minutes to finish the report.


Yeah.  Yeah , I have still ten minutes to finish the report.

Alright. After after that five minutes , you have ten minutes to finish it , or


Alright. After after that five minutes , you have ten minutes to finish it , or


And you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee or


And you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee or

oh no , they don't have beer here so you can't celebrate.


oh no , they don't have beer here so you can't celebrate.

You can just if you ma finish my presentation please. Uh over there.


You can just if you ma finish my presentation please. Uh over there.

The presentation is still open. So if you finish that then you'll see uh  Yeah next.


The presentation is still open. So if you finish that then you'll see uh  Yeah next.

Oh yeah , we have to do the project uh evaluation. Just uh do that quickly.


Oh yeah , we have to do the project uh evaluation. Just uh do that quickly.


Uh well basically what that says , we discuss it and um


Uh well basically what that says , we discuss it and um

So how were  did the project process uh go ? Did you , were you all pleased with the process as it was ? Or are there uh


Uh well basically what that says , we discuss it and um

So how were  did the project process uh go ? Did you , were you all pleased with the process as it was ? Or are there uh

Uh th uh do you mean the the interaction between us ? Or


So how were  did the project process uh go ? Did you , were you all pleased with the process as it was ? Or are there uh

Uh th uh do you mean the the interaction between us ? Or

Yeah the interaction and the steps we followed , and and so forth.


So how were  did the project process uh go ? Did you , were you all pleased with the process as it was ? Or are there uh

Uh th uh do you mean the the interaction between us ? Or

Yeah the interaction and the steps we followed , and and so forth.

Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because it went a bit fast.


Uh th uh do you mean the the interaction between us ? Or

Yeah the interaction and the steps we followed , and and so forth.

Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because it went a bit fast.


Yeah the interaction and the steps we followed , and and so forth.

Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because it went a bit fast.

But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on , the second time I think I did a bit better.


Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because it went a bit fast.

But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on , the second time I think I did a bit better.


But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on , the second time I think I did a bit better.


And we move more to to working together as team ,


And we move more to to working together as team ,

because at first you you make your individual contribution , and then come here , and you have no idea what the others have to make.


because at first you you make your individual contribution , and then come here , and you have no idea what the others have to make.


because at first you you make your individual contribution , and then come here , and you have no idea what the others have to make.

And then finally you have some idea , okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and you will arrange that ,


And then finally you have some idea , okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and you will arrange that ,


And then finally you have some idea , okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and you will arrange that ,

and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So


and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So


and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So

The process , I mean , the interaction between us became better and better I guess.


The process , I mean , the interaction between us became better and better I guess.


The process , I mean , the interaction between us became better and better I guess.

Yeah. Especially after the first meeting.


Yeah. Especially after the first meeting.


Yeah. Especially after the first meeting.

Yeah , especially if f f if you see  uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second meeting I guess.


Yeah , especially if f f if you see  uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second meeting I guess.


Yeah , especially if f f if you see  uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second meeting I guess.

Okay and was that due to my leadership ?


Okay and was that due to my leadership ?


Okay and was that due to my leadership ?

Well you did become more assertive the the second time round , so that


Well you did become more assertive the the second time round , so that


Well you did become more assertive the the second time round , so that

Yeah. You were more in charge kind of thing.


Yeah. You were more in charge kind of thing.


Yeah. You were more in charge kind of thing.

Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity ?


Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity ?


Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity ?

Yeah but only the the financial parts uh


Yeah but only the the financial parts uh


but  If if you don't take that into account , there's plenty of room for creativ creativity.


but  If if you don't take that into account , there's plenty of room for creativ creativity.

Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself , but also in explaining it to the other people , by means of uh


but  If if you don't take that into account , there's plenty of room for creativ creativity.

Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself , but also in explaining it to the other people , by means of uh

the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like that.


Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself , but also in explaining it to the other people , by means of uh

the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like that.

So and the  uh about the board  digital pen ? Uh was that helpful or


the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like that.

So and the  uh about the board  digital pen ? Uh was that helpful or


So and the  uh about the board  digital pen ? Uh was that helpful or


the digital pen is better than the SMARTboard. Because it it it just works better.


the digital pen is better than the SMARTboard. Because it it it just works better.

I mean uh uh I've made  yeah , uh I've made several notes just to test it , and and just put the pen in into it , and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly.


I mean uh uh I've made  yeah , uh I've made several notes just to test it , and and just put the pen in into it , and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly.

So it it's better a better device than uh


So it it's better a better device than uh


So it it's better a better device than uh

than the screen. But the screen is useful , in essence , but it doesn't work that well.


than the screen. But the screen is useful , in essence , but it doesn't work that well.

It's uh it's  The the pen is more intuitive , 'cause we're all used to writing with pen.


than the screen. But the screen is useful , in essence , but it doesn't work that well.

It's uh it's  The the pen is more intuitive , 'cause we're all used to writing with pen.

And uh as I said , uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works , so will take me half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation.


It's uh it's  The the pen is more intuitive , 'cause we're all used to writing with pen.

And uh as I said , uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works , so will take me half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation.


And uh as I said , uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works , so will take me half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation.

But once I get to know the program probably , I mean , it looks better , you know. Or uh something like that. You can give it a kind of a home style , like we have i the the logo and everything.


But once I get to know the program probably , I mean , it looks better , you know. Or uh something like that. You can give it a kind of a home style , like we have i the the logo and everything.


Okay , are are there  any new ideas about this ? All I think


Okay , are are there  any new ideas about this ? All I think

It's use especially useful , I guess , to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff.


It's use especially useful , I guess , to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff.


I think the PowerPoint is is too limited. You can't uh draw easy in in PowerPoint. It has to be uh  yeah. The drawing board has to be integrated into PowerPoint , so that you can just easily


I think the PowerPoint is is too limited. You can't uh draw easy in in PowerPoint. It has to be uh  yeah. The drawing board has to be integrated into PowerPoint , so that you can just easily

Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for me is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as well.


Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for me is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as well.


Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for me is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as well.

You know , you can draw something on the sketch-board and then take it there , or whatever.


You know , you can draw something on the sketch-board and then take it there , or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to an  a small audience , and then to


You know , you can draw something on the sketch-board and then take it there , or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to an  a small audience , and then to

Yeah just for text , for text it's uh it's okay. But


You know , you can draw something on the sketch-board and then take it there , or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to an  a small audience , and then to

Yeah just for text , for text it's uh it's okay. But

Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So


Yeah. Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to an  a small audience , and then to

Yeah just for text , for text it's uh it's okay. But

Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So


Yeah just for text , for text it's uh it's okay. But

Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So


Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So

Uh we should uh enter our questionnaire.


Uh we should uh enter our questionnaire.


Yeah  we have to pull it this way , huh ? Wait.