Well anyway I have this point. We can discuss. Also um  so as as I told before uh it would be better if it's only for the T_V_ um because we want to be quick on on the market. And then also we have to make very uh uh clear that this uh this remote control is is part of of our products and show our corporate uh logo and and colours on the  on the design as well so that uh they identify it as one of our product. So this is the the key point.

So before uh finishing we can uh define uh what would be the characteristic of the  o th of the control  of the remote control and which button do we need which function do we want etcetera.


So before uh finishing we can uh define uh what would be the characteristic of the  o th of the control  of the remote control and which button do we need which function do we want etcetera.

So do you um so so from from the the Marketing Expert I think a key aspect is the easy to use aspect , it should be very simple and most button are never used


So do you um so so from from the the Marketing Expert I think a key aspect is the easy to use aspect , it should be very simple and most button are never used


So do you um so so from from the the Marketing Expert I think a key aspect is the easy to use aspect , it should be very simple and most button are never used

only ten per cent of the button are are used often so I think we have to do something very simple and I think we all agree on that point , no ?


only ten per cent of the button are are used often so I think we have to do something very simple and I think we all agree on that point , no ?

Well if it is going to be just a T_V_ remote control it is going to be very simple.


Well if it is going to be just a T_V_ remote control it is going to be very simple.

Yeah okay. So yeah the key point here is simple. Maybe.  So few buttons , channel , volume control and what el what function do you see in addition to that ?


Well if it is going to be just a T_V_ remote control it is going to be very simple.

Yeah okay. So yeah the key point here is simple. Maybe.  So few buttons , channel , volume control and what el what function do you see in addition to that ?

Well if it's going to be as simple as possible then just have the remote control , there is no other function that I can see


Yeah okay. So yeah the key point here is simple. Maybe.  So few buttons , channel , volume control and what el what function do you see in addition to that ?

Well if it's going to be as simple as possible then just have the remote control , there is no other function that I can see


Well if it's going to be as simple as possible then just have the remote control , there is no other function that I can see


no you want to keep television on so that the advertising can  revenue can come back to us.


no you want to keep television on so that the advertising can  revenue can come back to us.

Volume , maybe a mute button , and then on off button.


Volume , maybe a mute button , and then on off button.


Volume , maybe a mute button , and then on off button.

Uh I know that som you say that many people are doing plenty of  a lot of zapping.


Uh I know that som you say that many people are doing plenty of  a lot of zapping.


Uh I know that som you say that many people are doing plenty of  a lot of zapping.

I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look , uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now ,


I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look , uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now ,


I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look , uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now ,

you have a button , you you press it , and this is uh the previous channel which has come back.


I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look , uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now ,

you have a button , you you press it , and this is uh the previous channel which has come back.

Okay. Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button , the previous channel button , the volume button , plus a mute button , and uh just the the traditional on off button.


you have a button , you you press it , and this is uh the previous channel which has come back.

Okay. Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button , the previous channel button , the volume button , plus a mute button , and uh just the the traditional on off button.


you have a button , you you press it , and this is uh the previous channel which has come back.

Okay. Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button , the previous channel button , the volume button , plus a mute button , and uh just the the traditional on off button.

And uh and of course the channel changing buttons.


Okay. Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button , the previous channel button , the volume button , plus a mute button , and uh just the the traditional on off button.

And uh and of course the channel changing buttons.


And uh and of course the channel changing buttons.


And uh and of course the channel changing buttons.

How should they how should we implement that ? Because uh could be numerical only or could be also incremental.


How should they how should we implement that ? Because uh could be numerical only or could be also incremental.

Yeah. Incremental definitely because zapping you you switch them.


How should they how should we implement that ? Because uh could be numerical only or could be also incremental.

Yeah. Incremental definitely because zapping you you switch them.

Let's say that we can do something like that. This is uh incremental , but once you press it for a long time , you go five by five.


Yeah. Incremental definitely because zapping you you switch them.

Let's say that we can do something like that. This is uh incremental , but once you press it for a long time , you go five by five.


Let's say that we can do something like that. This is uh incremental , but once you press it for a long time , you go five by five.


Mm. It's an interesting idea , that if you press it for a long time it does something else , in general. So if you you have your ten buttons for the  for the numeric the numerical buttons and you have  instead of having just one memory


Mm. It's an interesting idea , that if you press it for a long time it does something else , in general. So if you you have your ten buttons for the  for the numeric the numerical buttons and you have  instead of having just one memory

you have if you press them for a long time  No. Doesn't work  does it.


Mm. It's an interesting idea , that if you press it for a long time it does something else , in general. So if you you have your ten buttons for the  for the numeric the numerical buttons and you have  instead of having just one memory

you have if you press them for a long time  No. Doesn't work  does it.

Maybe we should have also a digit button


you have if you press them for a long time  No. Doesn't work  does it.

Maybe we should have also a digit button

Maybe we should have a complete keyboard and just type console commands.


Maybe we should have also a digit button

Maybe we should have a complete keyboard and just type console commands.


Maybe we should have a complete keyboard and just type console commands.

Maybe we have also to have digits or only incremental.


Maybe we have also to have digits or only incremental.


Maybe we have also to have digits or only incremental.

Well if it's useful like if if you want to change between three channels for example then you h you cannot  you cannot cannot work with just memory being incremental.


Well if it's useful like if if you want to change between three channels for example then you h you cannot  you cannot cannot work with just memory being incremental.

Uh. Yeah. Because you have your previous channel button if you have incremental only it's not uh it isn't worth it because the previous channel is eith either minus one or plus one.


Uh. Yeah. Because you have your previous channel button if you have incremental only it's not uh it isn't worth it because the previous channel is eith either minus one or plus one.


Maybe we we can make very obvious the channel and volume button button and smaller button down there with the the digits.


Maybe we we can make very obvious the channel and volume button button and smaller button down there with the the digits.

Yeah when you zap usually you will have to press the same button all the time


Yeah when you zap usually you will have to press the same button all the time


We can design the remote control to have access. You know some remote control have uh protection


there is a  I mean you know there is are some  with a wheel like this. Instead of having the up down buttons for uh you can have the wheel.


Yeah. Maybe we can have a wheel for incremental.


Yeah. Maybe we can have a wheel for incremental.

So have a wheel for incremental , have the digits uh on the lower side that can be closed so as you say protected ,


So have a wheel for incremental , have the digits uh on the lower side that can be closed so as you say protected ,


On the lower side I think it  you have to turn it.


On the lower side I think it  you have to turn it.

Or a  or a ball , yeah , not a a wheel but a ball , and you say uh to


Or a  or a ball , yeah , not a a wheel but a ball , and you say uh to


So you have to the user has to like to should feel the the the discrete sense a bit.


Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote control.


Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote control.

'S quite  it's quite easy we do that w with back light on the  on the wheel.


Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote control.

'S quite  it's quite easy we do that w with back light on the  on the wheel.

Yeah. Even if i L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_ feature uh


'S quite  it's quite easy we do that w with back light on the  on the wheel.

Yeah. Even if i L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_ feature uh

A blue  a blue L_E_D_ and we sell that um.


Yeah. Even if i L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_ feature uh

A blue  a blue L_E_D_ and we sell that um.


A blue  a blue L_E_D_ and we sell that um.


Because it was important for young customers if you remember.


Because it was important for young customers if you remember.

I think it's only put on if cou have multi function. If you do not multi function then there is no p point in having L_C_D_.


I think it's only put on if cou have multi function. If you do not multi function then there is no p point in having L_C_D_.


The user does not have an advantage really.


And so no speech as well because it w it would delay too much the development process


And so no speech as well because it w it would delay too much the development process

but uh  it will be cool. It would. Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go C_N_N_. Mm.


but uh  it will be cool. It would. Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go C_N_N_. Mm.


but uh  it will be cool. It would. Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go C_N_N_. Mm.

Yeah. That would be cool. But eight months is really long


Yeah. That would be cool. But eight months is really long


So first. I want to say I'm the secretary , so I make the minutes. You find them in your  in the map in the From the group. There's the minutes from the first meeting. You'll find the next minutes also there. Then  I wanna hear from you , what you've done. And after that I have some new product requirements. So  And after that we have to make decisions , what we will do. And then we're ready. We have forty minutes for this meeting. After that we'll have lunch. So first I wanna ask the   Industrial Designer to tell what he did. So


So first. I want to say I'm the secretary , so I make the minutes. You find them in your  in the map in the From the group. There's the minutes from the first meeting. You'll find the next minutes also there. Then  I wanna hear from you , what you've done. And after that I have some new product requirements. So  And after that we have to make decisions , what we will do. And then we're ready. We have forty minutes for this meeting. After that we'll have lunch. So first I wanna ask the   Industrial Designer to tell what he did. So

That's my task. Okay. Uh I've  Where have I put it ? My Documents or not ? Hmm. I've save it on my computer , my presentation.


That's my task. Okay. Uh I've  Where have I put it ? My Documents or not ? Hmm. I've save it on my computer , my presentation.


It was about the working of the remote control.


It was about the working of the remote control.

It's the technical function or the functional requirements.


It was about the working of the remote control.

It's the technical function or the functional requirements.

Not a  of  Wait. The working design. But I've saved it.


It's the technical function or the functional requirements.

Not a  of  Wait. The working design. But I've saved it.


Not a  of  Wait. The working design. But I've saved it.


Not a  of  Wait. The working design. But I've saved it.

Working design. What is this ? Product documents.


Working design. What is this ? Product documents.


Gone.  Well you  Um  Nah. Nah , nah , nah.


So okay. It's a little difficult what I'm gonna tell you. It's about the working of the remote control. I just had an half an hour j to study it


Ten minutes to tell it. Okay. I think it will be a few minutes and


Ten minutes to tell it. Okay. I think it will be a few minutes and

First uh I will tell you something about the findings , what I discovered about the remote control. The working bout it  uh of it. Uh then I'll have uh some kind of map , and it's the top of the remote control. With a little bit of science , uh you  I will show that uh in in a few minutes. And then uh what I'll think about it. First , the findings. The remote control is a very difficult uh thing to uh to explain to just all of you wh who haven't seen a remote control uh inside. Uh there's a lot of uh plastic on it ,


Ten minutes to tell it. Okay. I think it will be a few minutes and

First uh I will tell you something about the findings , what I discovered about the remote control. The working bout it  uh of it. Uh then I'll have uh some kind of map , and it's the top of the remote control. With a little bit of science , uh you  I will show that uh in in a few minutes. And then uh what I'll think about it. First , the findings. The remote control is a very difficult uh thing to uh to explain to just all of you wh who haven't seen a remote control uh inside. Uh there's a lot of uh plastic on it ,

um because its uh not so expensive. And there are uh a lot of uh wires , uh which um connect the components in it , the battery , and there are um switches and things like that. There's a lot of small uh electronics. So it won't be um uh too expensive to build it. Only twelve Euro fifty I think uh we will make it. Now   And here I have the top of the remote control. Uh here's some kind of chip. Uh on top of this , there are uh the numbers. Uh you have all on your remote control. And uh the teletext uh button. And uh here's the battery. And when you push the button , it will uh will be sent to the chip. And the chip will um send it to all kind of sub-components. That's what I said , it's very difficult.


First uh I will tell you something about the findings , what I discovered about the remote control. The working bout it  uh of it. Uh then I'll have uh some kind of map , and it's the top of the remote control. With a little bit of science , uh you  I will show that uh in in a few minutes. And then uh what I'll think about it. First , the findings. The remote control is a very difficult uh thing to uh to explain to just all of you wh who haven't seen a remote control uh inside. Uh there's a lot of uh plastic on it ,

um because its uh not so expensive. And there are uh a lot of uh wires , uh which um connect the components in it , the battery , and there are um switches and things like that. There's a lot of small uh electronics. So it won't be um uh too expensive to build it. Only twelve Euro fifty I think uh we will make it. Now   And here I have the top of the remote control. Uh here's some kind of chip. Uh on top of this , there are uh the numbers. Uh you have all on your remote control. And uh the teletext uh button. And uh here's the battery. And when you push the button , it will uh will be sent to the chip. And the chip will um send it to all kind of sub-components. That's what I said , it's very difficult.

And after that it will be sent to the infrared. And that will send it to your television. That's a short h uh how it works. Uh I think I can uh make it uh difficult , but we all  we all don't get it. My preferences ? It's uh  it won't be uh  We shouldn't make it too big. Uh also for the cost , uh we should only put one battery on it. A long-lasting battery. Uh also for the cost , uh use only plastic. Not other materials. Also because of the cost , uh not too much buttons on it. We can also make uh a button uh with a   menu uh button. And then um that that you will see it on the T_V_. And on the T_V_ you can uh switch into the menu.


um because its uh not so expensive. And there are uh a lot of uh wires , uh which um connect the components in it , the battery , and there are um switches and things like that. There's a lot of small uh electronics. So it won't be um uh too expensive to build it. Only twelve Euro fifty I think uh we will make it. Now   And here I have the top of the remote control. Uh here's some kind of chip. Uh on top of this , there are uh the numbers. Uh you have all on your remote control. And uh the teletext uh button. And uh here's the battery. And when you push the button , it will uh will be sent to the chip. And the chip will um send it to all kind of sub-components. That's what I said , it's very difficult.

And after that it will be sent to the infrared. And that will send it to your television. That's a short h uh how it works. Uh I think I can uh make it uh difficult , but we all  we all don't get it. My preferences ? It's uh  it won't be uh  We shouldn't make it too big. Uh also for the cost , uh we should only put one battery on it. A long-lasting battery. Uh also for the cost , uh use only plastic. Not other materials. Also because of the cost , uh not too much buttons on it. We can also make uh a button uh with a   menu uh button. And then um that that you will see it on the T_V_. And on the T_V_ you can uh switch into the menu.

That's  I think it's easier. And the bleep signal , y uh you told us. Uh but we can also use it uh a bleep like something , when the battery's empty , then there is a bleep. Then you'll have to change it in a in a week or something. And also the bleep , when  what I told you about uh when you lost it , and you push a button , and then you hear bleep bleep , and we will find it. This is uh just uh


And after that it will be sent to the infrared. And that will send it to your television. That's a short h uh how it works. Uh I think I can uh make it uh difficult , but we all  we all don't get it. My preferences ? It's uh  it won't be uh  We shouldn't make it too big. Uh also for the cost , uh we should only put one battery on it. A long-lasting battery. Uh also for the cost , uh use only plastic. Not other materials. Also because of the cost , uh not too much buttons on it. We can also make uh a button uh with a   menu uh button. And then um that that you will see it on the T_V_. And on the T_V_ you can uh switch into the menu.

That's  I think it's easier. And the bleep signal , y uh you told us. Uh but we can also use it uh a bleep like something , when the battery's empty , then there is a bleep. Then you'll have to change it in a in a week or something. And also the bleep , when  what I told you about uh when you lost it , and you push a button , and then you hear bleep bleep , and we will find it. This is uh just uh


That's  I think it's easier. And the bleep signal , y uh you told us. Uh but we can also use it uh a bleep like something , when the battery's empty , then there is a bleep. Then you'll have to change it in a in a week or something. And also the bleep , when  what I told you about uh when you lost it , and you push a button , and then you hear bleep bleep , and we will find it. This is uh just uh


That's  I think it's easier. And the bleep signal , y uh you told us. Uh but we can also use it uh a bleep like something , when the battery's empty , then there is a bleep. Then you'll have to change it in a in a week or something. And also the bleep , when  what I told you about uh when you lost it , and you push a button , and then you hear bleep bleep , and we will find it. This is uh just uh

The battery. You say one battery is cheaper. Why ?


The battery. You say one battery is cheaper. Why ?

If we w if we use only just one uh small pen-light , then it will be cheaper than when we use two.


The battery. You say one battery is cheaper. Why ?

If we w if we use only just one uh small pen-light , then it will be cheaper than when we use two.

Yeah but when you use two , you can use it two times longer.


The battery. You say one battery is cheaper. Why ?

If we w if we use only just one uh small pen-light , then it will be cheaper than when we use two.

Yeah but when you use two , you can use it two times longer.

Yeah but then we'll have to make the um remote control uh long lasting.


If we w if we use only just one uh small pen-light , then it will be cheaper than when we use two.

Yeah but when you use two , you can use it two times longer.

Yeah but then we'll have to make the um remote control uh long lasting.

Okay so it's the size of the remote control.


Yeah but when you use two , you can use it two times longer.

Yeah but then we'll have to make the um remote control uh long lasting.

Okay so it's the size of the remote control.


Yeah but then we'll have to make the um remote control uh long lasting.

Okay so it's the size of the remote control.

Okay and the buttons. When you use it on the television , you've  you need the television , wh which can use it.


Okay so it's the size of the remote control.

Okay and the buttons. When you use it on the television , you've  you need the television , wh which can use it.

Yeah. But uh I think this  our remote control is for the televisions we uh we sell in our company ?


Okay and the buttons. When you use it on the television , you've  you need the television , wh which can use it.

Yeah. But uh I think this  our remote control is for the televisions we uh we sell in our company ?


Okay and the buttons. When you use it on the television , you've  you need the television , wh which can use it.

Yeah. But uh I think this  our remote control is for the televisions we uh we sell in our company ?

Or is it also for other company  uh for other televisions ?


Yeah. But uh I think this  our remote control is for the televisions we uh we sell in our company ?

Or is it also for other company  uh for other televisions ?

I think we have to use it also on other televisions though.


Or is it also for other company  uh for other televisions ?

I think we have to use it also on other televisions though.


I think we have to use it also on other televisions though.

Maybe just a menu button to use it on our televisions. And then we make it easier uh for our televisions. And on the other tele televisions , you can also use it , but then we won't use the


Maybe just a menu button to use it on our televisions. And then we make it easier uh for our televisions. And on the other tele televisions , you can also use it , but then we won't use the

Yeah but I don't  I think it   They are two different things though. We have to choose one. It has to work on o uh all televisions.


Maybe just a menu button to use it on our televisions. And then we make it easier uh for our televisions. And on the other tele televisions , you can also use it , but then we won't use the

Yeah but I don't  I think it   They are two different things though. We have to choose one. It has to work on o uh all televisions.

Yeah ? Okay. Then I think uh the menu button uh will only work on the newer televisions. And we will uh look forward and don't make a remote control which for the older televisions.


Yeah but I don't  I think it   They are two different things though. We have to choose one. It has to work on o uh all televisions.

Yeah ? Okay. Then I think uh the menu button uh will only work on the newer televisions. And we will uh look forward and don't make a remote control which for the older televisions.


Yeah ? Okay. Then I think uh the menu button uh will only work on the newer televisions. And we will uh look forward and don't make a remote control which for the older televisions.


Yeah ? Okay. Then I think uh the menu button uh will only work on the newer televisions. And we will uh look forward and don't make a remote control which for the older televisions.

And I just uh have one more idea. Uh maybe it's one of your tasks. But  Uh , to have a trendy remote control , we can also um make something like the Nokia um mobile phones. To change covers. So if you have uh a trendy half with all red , uh yellow and something. And then you can put a red cover on it.


And I just uh have one more idea. Uh maybe it's one of your tasks. But  Uh , to have a trendy remote control , we can also um make something like the Nokia um mobile phones. To change covers. So if you have uh a trendy half with all red , uh yellow and something. And then you can put a red cover on it.


Uh then it won't be  uh will have just one cover on the uh original one. And then you can buy the covers.


Uh then it won't be  uh will have just one cover on the uh original one. And then you can buy the covers.

Yes but you have to m uh be able to change it. D does it make it more difficult to design ?


Uh then it won't be  uh will have just one cover on the uh original one. And then you can buy the covers.

Yes but you have to m uh be able to change it. D does it make it more difficult to design ?

I think it will be a little more difficult , but not too much.


Yes but you have to m uh be able to change it. D does it make it more difficult to design ?

I think it will be a little more difficult , but not too much.


I think it will be a little more difficult , but not too much.

Just like with the Nokia uh mobile phones.


Just like with the Nokia uh mobile phones.

Yeah but there are much more Nokia telephones than um these ones.


Just like with the Nokia uh mobile phones.

Yeah but there are much more Nokia telephones than um these ones.

Yeah but then we'll have to to just um put five covers on it , and see if it works. If it won't works then we'll get something else. Then we uh won't g uh go further with it.


Yeah but there are much more Nokia telephones than um these ones.

Yeah but then we'll have to to just um put five covers on it , and see if it works. If it won't works then we'll get something else. Then we uh won't g uh go further with it.

Yeah but are their profits bigger than their cost ?


Yeah but then we'll have to to just um put five covers on it , and see if it works. If it won't works then we'll get something else. Then we uh won't g uh go further with it.

Yeah but are their profits bigger than their cost ?

Uh a p a   a cover made in uh in China , it it won't be I guess so expensive I think.


Yeah but then we'll have to to just um put five covers on it , and see if it works. If it won't works then we'll get something else. Then we uh won't g uh go further with it.

Yeah but are their profits bigger than their cost ?

Uh a p a   a cover made in uh in China , it it won't be I guess so expensive I think.

Yeah but there are also design cost. I don't think  When you have a remote control , do you change the cover ? Would you change the cover ?


Yeah but are their profits bigger than their cost ?

Uh a p a   a cover made in uh in China , it it won't be I guess so expensive I think.

Yeah but there are also design cost. I don't think  When you have a remote control , do you change the cover ? Would you change the cover ?


Uh a p a   a cover made in uh in China , it it won't be I guess so expensive I think.

Yeah but there are also design cost. I don't think  When you have a remote control , do you change the cover ? Would you change the cover ?


Yeah but there are also design cost. I don't think  When you have a remote control , do you change the cover ? Would you change the cover ?

But maybe I think trendy people or like children where you can paint on it , and uh the the children think , oh this is my remote control , uh I made a picture on it. Uh


But maybe I think trendy people or like children where you can paint on it , and uh the the children think , oh this is my remote control , uh I made a picture on it. Uh

N yeah but  I think that too less people would change it for good profit. So


But maybe I think trendy people or like children where you can paint on it , and uh the the children think , oh this is my remote control , uh I made a picture on it. Uh

N yeah but  I think that too less people would change it for good profit. So

Yeah. Okay. And the other people ? What do you think about it ?


N yeah but  I think that too less people would change it for good profit. So

Yeah. Okay. And the other people ? What do you think about it ?

Yeah it's a good idea. But  If if it  Yeah , I don't  I'm not sure if it will make profit enough to uh


Yeah. Okay. And the other people ? What do you think about it ?

Yeah it's a good idea. But  If if it  Yeah , I don't  I'm not sure if it will make profit enough to uh


Yeah it's a good idea. But  If if it  Yeah , I don't  I'm not sure if it will make profit enough to uh


Yeah it's a good idea. But  If if it  Yeah , I don't  I'm not sure if it will make profit enough to uh

Yes it is but I don't think we have to do it.


Yes it is but I don't think we have to do it.


That's clear.  Okay thank you. So now the User Interface Designer.


That's clear.  Okay thank you. So now the User Interface Designer.

Yes well uh uh I shall give a short talk about the the technical function design.


Yes well uh uh I shall give a short talk about the the technical function design.

Um I thought the the the technical function design was uh to uh  for a remote control to to to have some influence on the T_V_ set. Uh both audio and vide video uh in a cordless way. No cords attached. And uh well , it all by pushing a button on the remote. That was from my own experience and uh and uh the previous meeting. Uh I find some uh some interesting quotes on the web. Uh well the same idea here. Uh message to the television. And uh and and and well basic uh operations like on and off , and uh switching channels , and uh  and maybe uh teletext or something like that. Uh well these are two uh remotes , and that's our uh our dilemma I think. Uh  We just heard from the Industrial Designer how uh difficult it is. But uh shall we make a basic remote control , uh just uh swapping channels and volume and uh power button and well nothing much more. Or uh uh more functions on the remote. Uh maybe more devices you can influence. Uh a radio or a v a video recorder , uh V_C_R_.  Yeah well that's our dilemma. Um any ideas about that ? Basic or multifunctional ?


Yes well uh uh I shall give a short talk about the the technical function design.

Um I thought the the the technical function design was uh to uh  for a remote control to to to have some influence on the T_V_ set. Uh both audio and vide video uh in a cordless way. No cords attached. And uh well , it all by pushing a button on the remote. That was from my own experience and uh and uh the previous meeting. Uh I find some uh some interesting quotes on the web. Uh well the same idea here. Uh message to the television. And uh and and and well basic uh operations like on and off , and uh switching channels , and uh  and maybe uh teletext or something like that. Uh well these are two uh remotes , and that's our uh our dilemma I think. Uh  We just heard from the Industrial Designer how uh difficult it is. But uh shall we make a basic remote control , uh just uh swapping channels and volume and uh power button and well nothing much more. Or uh uh more functions on the remote. Uh maybe more devices you can influence. Uh a radio or a v a video recorder , uh V_C_R_.  Yeah well that's our dilemma. Um any ideas about that ? Basic or multifunctional ?

Okay yeah. Yeah well the  that was just on my mind.


Um I thought the the the technical function design was uh to uh  for a remote control to to to have some influence on the T_V_ set. Uh both audio and vide video uh in a cordless way. No cords attached. And uh well , it all by pushing a button on the remote. That was from my own experience and uh and uh the previous meeting. Uh I find some uh some interesting quotes on the web. Uh well the same idea here. Uh message to the television. And uh and and and well basic uh operations like on and off , and uh switching channels , and uh  and maybe uh teletext or something like that. Uh well these are two uh remotes , and that's our uh our dilemma I think. Uh  We just heard from the Industrial Designer how uh difficult it is. But uh shall we make a basic remote control , uh just uh swapping channels and volume and uh power button and well nothing much more. Or uh uh more functions on the remote. Uh maybe more devices you can influence. Uh a radio or a v a video recorder , uh V_C_R_.  Yeah well that's our dilemma. Um any ideas about that ? Basic or multifunctional ?

Okay yeah. Yeah well the  that was just on my mind.


Okay yeah. Yeah well the  that was just on my mind.

So uh I didn't know what uh what way we would go. Mm yeah well that was my uh functional uh talk .


So uh I didn't know what uh what way we would go. Mm yeah well that was my uh functional uh talk .

'Kay , thank you. Then it's your turn , the marketing expert.


So uh I didn't know what uh what way we would go. Mm yeah well that was my uh functional uh talk .

'Kay , thank you. Then it's your turn , the marketing expert.

Okay. Uh um m Yeah.  Um yeah okay. This bit too far.


'Kay , thank you. Then it's your turn , the marketing expert.

Okay. Uh um m Yeah.  Um yeah okay. This bit too far.

So  So I'm uh gonna have a presentation about um the market , about um yeah what people think. Uh we did a usability lab-test with a hundred persons. And we looked at uh several um things. Uh among them design , uh d d how d did they like the use of it , uh what frustrations they had while using remote controls. Uh well what what will be our market. And uh we asked them if we had some new featu features. If um that would be a good idea or not. Well our findings. Uh our users , they disliked the look and feel of current remote controls. Um uh they especially found found them very ugly. And um th they also found them hard to to learn how to use it. Uh well they also zap a lot. So uh zapping uh should be very easy. And uh fifty percent of the users only use ten percent of the buttons. So a lot of unused buttons. There is more findings. Uh on the buttons. Which uh buttons find users uh very important and which which not ? And how much would they use them ? Well uh the most used button is the channel selection. And uh we asked them how uh relevant they think uh the buttons are. The power , volume and channel selections are very relevant. Uh teletext is uh less relevant but also important. Uh not important they found the audio , uh that's not the volume but uh specific the the pitch , or the left or right. Uh the screen and the brightness. And uh channel settings. Uh th and they also are not used very often. Then we have a few um graphs about the market. Uh here we can see what the market share is of uh several groups. Um as you can see , most users are uh between thirty six and forty five. Um the the the younger group between sixteen and twenty five is not very big. And to come back on the the swapping uh things , uh I don't think uh , I  I think the younger will be most interest in it. But uh they are not a very big group. Um in the  we asked them , uh how would you like a s a new feature. If you have an L_C_D_ on the remote control , what would you think of it. Now you can clearly see young users say . I will  that would very nice. And older user think uh they will be scared of change  I think.


'Kay , thank you. Then it's your turn , the marketing expert.

Okay. Uh um m Yeah.  Um yeah okay. This bit too far.

So  So I'm uh gonna have a presentation about um the market , about um yeah what people think. Uh we did a usability lab-test with a hundred persons. And we looked at uh several um things. Uh among them design , uh d d how d did they like the use of it , uh what frustrations they had while using remote controls. Uh well what what will be our market. And uh we asked them if we had some new featu features. If um that would be a good idea or not. Well our findings. Uh our users , they disliked the look and feel of current remote controls. Um uh they especially found found them very ugly. And um th they also found them hard to to learn how to use it. Uh well they also zap a lot. So uh zapping uh should be very easy. And uh fifty percent of the users only use ten percent of the buttons. So a lot of unused buttons. There is more findings. Uh on the buttons. Which uh buttons find users uh very important and which which not ? And how much would they use them ? Well uh the most used button is the channel selection. And uh we asked them how uh relevant they think uh the buttons are. The power , volume and channel selections are very relevant. Uh teletext is uh less relevant but also important. Uh not important they found the audio , uh that's not the volume but uh specific the the pitch , or the left or right. Uh the screen and the brightness. And uh channel settings. Uh th and they also are not used very often. Then we have a few um graphs about the market. Uh here we can see what the market share is of uh several groups. Um as you can see , most users are uh between thirty six and forty five. Um the the the younger group between sixteen and twenty five is not very big. And to come back on the the swapping uh things , uh I don't think uh , I  I think the younger will be most interest in it. But uh they are not a very big group. Um in the  we asked them , uh how would you like a s a new feature. If you have an L_C_D_ on the remote control , what would you think of it. Now you can clearly see young users say . I will  that would very nice. And older user think uh they will be scared of change  I think.

And they won't like it. And another thing , how would you like to have a speech recognition on it. Well here we see the same. Young users uh think that's an interesting idea. And old users not. Uh well we uh found out that there are two  several markets at which we can aim. Uh the first are the younger , the age between sixteen and forty five. Uh they are highly interested in the features , as you can see uh here. And um they are more critical on their money spending. Uh the second group is the older group. Aged between forty six and sixty five. They are less interested in uh new features. But uh they spend their money more easily. Now if we look back at this graph , we can see that among the first group is about um sixty percent. And the second group about forty percent. So the the first group is bigger. Well then I come to my uh personal preferences. Uh yeah the first question is uh  also we have to ask is at the which market do we aim at. Uh of course n uh saying we aim at the young group doesn't say that old people won't buy it. But less of them will buy it. Um well I uh   Okay. What I thought , um even young people say it's hard to use , remote control. So if you make a remote control that is uh very easy to use , that's especially aimed at this group , even uh the young group will also be more interested. And um we can make special features. But uh I think it looks nice in the first time. But when use it , uh I don't know what's uh good thing of speech recognition.


Okay. Uh um m Yeah.  Um yeah okay. This bit too far.

So  So I'm uh gonna have a presentation about um the market , about um yeah what people think. Uh we did a usability lab-test with a hundred persons. And we looked at uh several um things. Uh among them design , uh d d how d did they like the use of it , uh what frustrations they had while using remote controls. Uh well what what will be our market. And uh we asked them if we had some new featu features. If um that would be a good idea or not. Well our findings. Uh our users , they disliked the look and feel of current remote controls. Um uh they especially found found them very ugly. And um th they also found them hard to to learn how to use it. Uh well they also zap a lot. So uh zapping uh should be very easy. And uh fifty percent of the users only use ten percent of the buttons. So a lot of unused buttons. There is more findings. Uh on the buttons. Which uh buttons find users uh very important and which which not ? And how much would they use them ? Well uh the most used button is the channel selection. And uh we asked them how uh relevant they think uh the buttons are. The power , volume and channel selections are very relevant. Uh teletext is uh less relevant but also important. Uh not important they found the audio , uh that's not the volume but uh specific the the pitch , or the left or right. Uh the screen and the brightness. And uh channel settings. Uh th and they also are not used very often. Then we have a few um graphs about the market. Uh here we can see what the market share is of uh several groups. Um as you can see , most users are uh between thirty six and forty five. Um the the the younger group between sixteen and twenty five is not very big. And to come back on the the swapping uh things , uh I don't think uh , I  I think the younger will be most interest in it. But uh they are not a very big group. Um in the  we asked them , uh how would you like a s a new feature. If you have an L_C_D_ on the remote control , what would you think of it. Now you can clearly see young users say . I will  that would very nice. And older user think uh they will be scared of change  I think.

And they won't like it. And another thing , how would you like to have a speech recognition on it. Well here we see the same. Young users uh think that's an interesting idea. And old users not. Uh well we uh found out that there are two  several markets at which we can aim. Uh the first are the younger , the age between sixteen and forty five. Uh they are highly interested in the features , as you can see uh here. And um they are more critical on their money spending. Uh the second group is the older group. Aged between forty six and sixty five. They are less interested in uh new features. But uh they spend their money more easily. Now if we look back at this graph , we can see that among the first group is about um sixty percent. And the second group about forty percent. So the the first group is bigger. Well then I come to my uh personal preferences. Uh yeah the first question is uh  also we have to ask is at the which market do we aim at. Uh of course n uh saying we aim at the young group doesn't say that old people won't buy it. But less of them will buy it. Um well I uh   Okay. What I thought , um even young people say it's hard to use , remote control. So if you make a remote control that is uh very easy to use , that's especially aimed at this group , even uh the young group will also be more interested. And um we can make special features. But uh I think it looks nice in the first time. But when use it , uh I don't know what's uh good thing of speech recognition.


So  So I'm uh gonna have a presentation about um the market , about um yeah what people think. Uh we did a usability lab-test with a hundred persons. And we looked at uh several um things. Uh among them design , uh d d how d did they like the use of it , uh what frustrations they had while using remote controls. Uh well what what will be our market. And uh we asked them if we had some new featu features. If um that would be a good idea or not. Well our findings. Uh our users , they disliked the look and feel of current remote controls. Um uh they especially found found them very ugly. And um th they also found them hard to to learn how to use it. Uh well they also zap a lot. So uh zapping uh should be very easy. And uh fifty percent of the users only use ten percent of the buttons. So a lot of unused buttons. There is more findings. Uh on the buttons. Which uh buttons find users uh very important and which which not ? And how much would they use them ? Well uh the most used button is the channel selection. And uh we asked them how uh relevant they think uh the buttons are. The power , volume and channel selections are very relevant. Uh teletext is uh less relevant but also important. Uh not important they found the audio , uh that's not the volume but uh specific the the pitch , or the left or right. Uh the screen and the brightness. And uh channel settings. Uh th and they also are not used very often. Then we have a few um graphs about the market. Uh here we can see what the market share is of uh several groups. Um as you can see , most users are uh between thirty six and forty five. Um the the the younger group between sixteen and twenty five is not very big. And to come back on the the swapping uh things , uh I don't think uh , I  I think the younger will be most interest in it. But uh they are not a very big group. Um in the  we asked them , uh how would you like a s a new feature. If you have an L_C_D_ on the remote control , what would you think of it. Now you can clearly see young users say . I will  that would very nice. And older user think uh they will be scared of change  I think.

And they won't like it. And another thing , how would you like to have a speech recognition on it. Well here we see the same. Young users uh think that's an interesting idea. And old users not. Uh well we uh found out that there are two  several markets at which we can aim. Uh the first are the younger , the age between sixteen and forty five. Uh they are highly interested in the features , as you can see uh here. And um they are more critical on their money spending. Uh the second group is the older group. Aged between forty six and sixty five. They are less interested in uh new features. But uh they spend their money more easily. Now if we look back at this graph , we can see that among the first group is about um sixty percent. And the second group about forty percent. So the the first group is bigger. Well then I come to my uh personal preferences. Uh yeah the first question is uh  also we have to ask is at the which market do we aim at. Uh of course n uh saying we aim at the young group doesn't say that old people won't buy it. But less of them will buy it. Um well I uh   Okay. What I thought , um even young people say it's hard to use , remote control. So if you make a remote control that is uh very easy to use , that's especially aimed at this group , even uh the young group will also be more interested. And um we can make special features. But uh I think it looks nice in the first time. But when use it , uh I don't know what's uh good thing of speech recognition.


And they won't like it. And another thing , how would you like to have a speech recognition on it. Well here we see the same. Young users uh think that's an interesting idea. And old users not. Uh well we uh found out that there are two  several markets at which we can aim. Uh the first are the younger , the age between sixteen and forty five. Uh they are highly interested in the features , as you can see uh here. And um they are more critical on their money spending. Uh the second group is the older group. Aged between forty six and sixty five. They are less interested in uh new features. But uh they spend their money more easily. Now if we look back at this graph , we can see that among the first group is about um sixty percent. And the second group about forty percent. So the the first group is bigger. Well then I come to my uh personal preferences. Uh yeah the first question is uh  also we have to ask is at the which market do we aim at. Uh of course n uh saying we aim at the young group doesn't say that old people won't buy it. But less of them will buy it. Um well I uh   Okay. What I thought , um even young people say it's hard to use , remote control. So if you make a remote control that is uh very easy to use , that's especially aimed at this group , even uh the young group will also be more interested. And um we can make special features. But uh I think it looks nice in the first time. But when use it , uh I don't know what's uh good thing of speech recognition.

Uh less important functions should be discarded from the remote control. It's about discussion we had earlier. Um  You can find most functions on a T_V_ set. So uh you don't have to have a lot of audio options , or screen options to change the brightness. And such things. Um well the design is very important. One thing I did not say I think , is that a lot of users also said then I would uh buy a good looking uh remote control if there will be one. But they found most remote controls very ugly. So the design of our remote control is very important. And uh yeah it should be very zap friendly , as most users use it for that. That were my findings.


Uh less important functions should be discarded from the remote control. It's about discussion we had earlier. Um  You can find most functions on a T_V_ set. So uh you don't have to have a lot of audio options , or screen options to change the brightness. And such things. Um well the design is very important. One thing I did not say I think , is that a lot of users also said then I would uh buy a good looking uh remote control if there will be one. But they found most remote controls very ugly. So the design of our remote control is very important. And uh yeah it should be very zap friendly , as most users use it for that. That were my findings.


If we aim for the younger people , um and there will be uh a lot of features like L_C_D_ or the the the speech uh f recognising , uh the cost will be a lot of h uh a lot higher.


If we aim for the younger people , um and there will be uh a lot of features like L_C_D_ or the the the speech uh f recognising , uh the cost will be a lot of h uh a lot higher.

Uh I think we don't have that in our budget.


Uh I think we don't have that in our budget.


And I don't uh I don't think twenty five Euros for a remote is really cheap or something.


And I don't uh I don't think twenty five Euros for a remote is really cheap or something.

So it's  Yeah , it's hard to uh get the younger group.


So it's  Yeah , it's hard to uh get the younger group.

I think uh the L_C_D_ is cheaper than speech recognition. So I think that can be an d good option. L_C_D_.


I think uh the L_C_D_ is cheaper than speech recognition. So I think that can be an d good option. L_C_D_.


Now   Oh , go on. What d d d um  Um  Uh we go   back on the decisions later. Now we have a few new product requirements. First , teletext. We have internet now so we don't need the teletext anymore. So not necessary.


Now   Oh , go on. What d d d um  Um  Uh we go   back on the decisions later. Now we have a few new product requirements. First , teletext. We have internet now so we don't need the teletext anymore. So not necessary.

Next. Only for the television. So we don't look at the other things like the radio or something. Only the television. We look at the age group of forty plus. Uh no , younger than forty. Is a g big group , and like you showed , n not very much people buy our stuff. Fourth point.  Our corporate colour and slogan must be used. Very important for the design. So you can see it on our site.


Now   Oh , go on. What d d d um  Um  Uh we go   back on the decisions later. Now we have a few new product requirements. First , teletext. We have internet now so we don't need the teletext anymore. So not necessary.

Next. Only for the television. So we don't look at the other things like the radio or something. Only the television. We look at the age group of forty plus. Uh no , younger than forty. Is a g big group , and like you showed , n not very much people buy our stuff. Fourth point.  Our corporate colour and slogan must be used. Very important for the design. So you can see it on our site.

Next. Um no. We have to make our decisions , what we want to do. So  like you said , we need the  . Maybe it's good to put it in a document. Now we have to decide what controls do we need. So maybe you can tell us.


Now   Oh , go on. What d d d um  Um  Uh we go   back on the decisions later. Now we have a few new product requirements. First , teletext. We have internet now so we don't need the teletext anymore. So not necessary.

Next. Only for the television. So we don't look at the other things like the radio or something. Only the television. We look at the age group of forty plus. Uh no , younger than forty. Is a g big group , and like you showed , n not very much people buy our stuff. Fourth point.  Our corporate colour and slogan must be used. Very important for the design. So you can see it on our site.

Next. Um no. We have to make our decisions , what we want to do. So  like you said , we need the  . Maybe it's good to put it in a document. Now we have to decide what controls do we need. So maybe you can tell us.

Yeah maybe we can first have a discussion uh on the the product requirements you just uh said.


Next. Only for the television. So we don't look at the other things like the radio or something. Only the television. We look at the age group of forty plus. Uh no , younger than forty. Is a g big group , and like you showed , n not very much people buy our stuff. Fourth point.  Our corporate colour and slogan must be used. Very important for the design. So you can see it on our site.

Next. Um no. We have to make our decisions , what we want to do. So  like you said , we need the  . Maybe it's good to put it in a document. Now we have to decide what controls do we need. So maybe you can tell us.

Yeah maybe we can first have a discussion uh on the the product requirements you just uh said.


Next. Um no. We have to make our decisions , what we want to do. So  like you said , we need the  . Maybe it's good to put it in a document. Now we have to decide what controls do we need. So maybe you can tell us.

Yeah maybe we can first have a discussion uh on the the product requirements you just uh said.


Yeah maybe we can first have a discussion uh on the the product requirements you just uh said.


maybe we should first have a discussion about that.


maybe we should first have a discussion about that.

I uh personally think uh teletext is a good option. Uh not everyone um who is looking T_V_ can go to internet when they want to see the latest news.


maybe we should first have a discussion about that.

I uh personally think uh teletext is a good option. Uh not everyone um who is looking T_V_ can go to internet when they want to see the latest news.

Yeah but we don't use it. It's a   new requirement.


I uh personally think uh teletext is a good option. Uh not everyone um who is looking T_V_ can go to internet when they want to see the latest news.

Yeah but we don't use it. It's a   new requirement.


Yeah but we don't use it. It's a   new requirement.


So what controls do we need ? Who first ?


So what controls do we need ? Who first ?

Uh the well um I think separate channels. So


Uh the well um I think separate channels. So


Uh the well um I think separate channels. So

But then both the the separate channels. So so uh zero to nine or something.


But then both the the separate channels. So so uh zero to nine or something.


But then both the the separate channels. So so uh zero to nine or something.

Volume. Maybe it's easy to pick. What was w your one ? Techno


Volume. Maybe it's easy to pick. What was w your one ? Techno

Mine ? It's the functional requirements.


Volume. Maybe it's easy to pick. What was w your one ? Techno

Mine ? It's the functional requirements.

Okay. We had w uh no no no no. Where was that example of the


Mine ? It's the functional requirements.

Okay. We had w uh no no no no. Where was that example of the


Okay. We had w uh no no no no. Where was that example of the


technical  Hallo. Okay. What do we need ? On-off. Zero to nine.


technical  Hallo. Okay. What do we need ? On-off. Zero to nine.

To change to the next channel , just one button. To move up , move down.


To change to the next channel , just one button. To move up , move down.

Menu ? Uh yes the n newer televisions ha do have menus. Uh


Menu ? Uh yes the n newer televisions ha do have menus. Uh


Menu ? Uh yes the n newer televisions ha do have menus. Uh

M Menu. I think um the only one or two numbers.


M Menu. I think um the only one or two numbers.


M Menu. I think um the only one or two numbers.

I think it will be um q quite easy to use , to have uh uh four arrows. Up-down for channel selection ,


I think it will be um q quite easy to use , to have uh uh four arrows. Up-down for channel selection ,


I think it will be um q quite easy to use , to have uh uh four arrows. Up-down for channel selection ,

and left-right uh for volume. And uh a menu uh button. And if you press the menu button you get into the menu , and you can use the same buttons. But the  then to scroll through the menu and to change the options.


and left-right uh for volume. And uh a menu uh button. And if you press the menu button you get into the menu , and you can use the same buttons. But the  then to scroll through the menu and to change the options.

Uh well yeah that depends on if you have uh the menu on the T_V_. Or you get the menu on the L_C_D_ screen on the remote control.


and left-right uh for volume. And uh a menu uh button. And if you press the menu button you get into the menu , and you can use the same buttons. But the  then to scroll through the menu and to change the options.

Uh well yeah that depends on if you have uh the menu on the T_V_. Or you get the menu on the L_C_D_ screen on the remote control.

Think it's better to have it on the remote control , 'cause it it has to work on all televisions. So


Uh well yeah that depends on if you have uh the menu on the T_V_. Or you get the menu on the L_C_D_ screen on the remote control.

Think it's better to have it on the remote control , 'cause it it has to work on all televisions. So


Think it's better to have it on the remote control , 'cause it it has to work on all televisions. So


'Kay. But well if you aim at the younger market , um a as they as uh s uh as we seen in the usability uh lab , uh they will buy a nice looking um remote control. And also to find the easy to use uh part very important. So if we have a L_C_D_ sh uh screen , and uh not too many buttons , I think that will incre uh uh even when it's a bit more cost , it will still sell.


'Kay. But well if you aim at the younger market , um a as they as uh s uh as we seen in the usability uh lab , uh they will buy a nice looking um remote control. And also to find the easy to use uh part very important. So if we have a L_C_D_ sh uh screen , and uh not too many buttons , I think that will incre uh uh even when it's a bit more cost , it will still sell.

So now we don't have a lot of buttons. Is this enough ?


So now we don't have a lot of buttons. Is this enough ?


Yeah but then it's always uh more than one uh thing to do.


Yeah but then it's always uh more than one uh thing to do.

Maybe more ?   No. Well. Then that's all. This will be the buttons. And  I think that's enough for the next phase. So we can go on to


Maybe more ?   No. Well. Then that's all. This will be the buttons. And  I think that's enough for the next phase. So we can go on to


Maybe more ?   No. Well. Then that's all. This will be the buttons. And  I think that's enough for the next phase. So we can go on to

And uh we don't yet have to decide what the remote control would look like ? Or


And uh we don't yet have to decide what the remote control would look like ? Or


And uh we don't yet have to decide what the remote control would look like ? Or

Um   Phase two is the conceptual design. So then we'll have the concepts.


Um   Phase two is the conceptual design. So then we'll have the concepts.


Um   Phase two is the conceptual design. So then we'll have the concepts.

That's for the  So uh next point. Now we have lunch-break. After that we have t thirty minutes for work. And you can find the minutes in the Project Documents folder inclusive the uh buttons. No. Your individual action , you can find them in the email. So now it's time for lunch.


That's for the  So uh next point. Now we have lunch-break. After that we have t thirty minutes for work. And you can find the minutes in the Project Documents folder inclusive the uh buttons. No. Your individual action , you can find them in the email. So now it's time for lunch.


Okay. Uh good afternoon. This is our third meeting already.

I hope you enjoyed your lunch.  I did anyway.  Um let's see. Presentation three. Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today. It's the conceptual design meeting. And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptual specification of components. Uh conceptual specification of design. And also trend-watching. Um these are hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations you're going to show me in a few minutes. Um but first I'll show you the agenda. Uh first the opening. Then we have three presentations. Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts. How we're going to make it. And then we're closing. We have about forty minutes. Uh so I suggest let's get started. Uh did someone encounter any problems during the preparation ? No ?


I hope you enjoyed your lunch.  I did anyway.  Um let's see. Presentation three. Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today. It's the conceptual design meeting. And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptual specification of components. Uh conceptual specification of design. And also trend-watching. Um these are hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations you're going to show me in a few minutes. Um but first I'll show you the agenda. Uh first the opening. Then we have three presentations. Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts. How we're going to make it. And then we're closing. We have about forty minutes. Uh so I suggest let's get started. Uh did someone encounter any problems during the preparation ? No ?


I hope you enjoyed your lunch.  I did anyway.  Um let's see. Presentation three. Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today. It's the conceptual design meeting. And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptual specification of components. Uh conceptual specification of design. And also trend-watching. Um these are hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations you're going to show me in a few minutes. Um but first I'll show you the agenda. Uh first the opening. Then we have three presentations. Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts. How we're going to make it. And then we're closing. We have about forty minutes. Uh so I suggest let's get started. Uh did someone encounter any problems during the preparation ? No ?

That's nice. Then a little uh thing about the last meeting. Uh these are the points um we agreed on. The requirements and the target market. Uh requirements are uh teletext , docking station , audio signal , small screen , with some extras that uh button information. And we are going to use default materials. Um does somebody have any comments on these requirements ? Maybe ? No ? These are just the the things we thought of , so maybe if you figured something else or thought of something else , just let me know. And maybe we can uh work it out. And we're going to target uh sixty to to eighty year old customers. So now everybody knows what we're do we're doing , um I suggest let's get started with the presentations. So shall we keep the same uh line-up as uh last time ?


That's nice. Then a little uh thing about the last meeting. Uh these are the points um we agreed on. The requirements and the target market. Uh requirements are uh teletext , docking station , audio signal , small screen , with some extras that uh button information. And we are going to use default materials. Um does somebody have any comments on these requirements ? Maybe ? No ? These are just the the things we thought of , so maybe if you figured something else or thought of something else , just let me know. And maybe we can uh work it out. And we're going to target uh sixty to to eighty year old customers. So now everybody knows what we're do we're doing , um I suggest let's get started with the presentations. So shall we keep the same uh line-up as uh last time ?


Doh. 'Kay I'm uh gonna inform you about the trend-watching I've done over the past few days. Um we've done some market research. We distributed some more enquetes , questionnaires. And um besides that um I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paris to well get all of the newest trends. And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers , after the original trend-watchers return , about what the the best design would be. Um okay these are some overall findings. Um most important thing is the fancy design. Um the research indicated that that was by far the most important factor. Um innovativeness was about half as important as the fancy design. By innovativeness this means um functions which are not featured in other remote controls. Um about half of , half as important as the innovativeness was the was easy to use. Um for our um group , we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old , this is um , these factors are slightly more equal. 'Kay these are some more group specific findings. Uh the older people prefer dark colours. Uh they like recognisable shapes , and familiar material. And our surveys have indicated that especially wood is pretty much the material for older people. Um this is , this image will give you a little bit of an impression about um the look-and-feel that um the remote should have. Um this leads us to some personal preferences. Uh the remote control and the docking station should uh blend in in the in the room. Um so this would mean no uh eye-catching designs. Just keep it simple and  Well the docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest , because this would be the  These would uh be the innovativeness in the remote control. So this would be very important that we  at least include these features. Um well the trend-watchers I consulted advised that it b should be , the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped. So you could imagine that uh the remote control will be standing up straight in the docking station. This is not really  This is pretty much a new shape to uh older people. So they would prefer uh a design where the remote control just lies flat in the docking station. So it would be kinda more telephone-shaped. Um besides that we would advise um to bring two editions , one with a wood-like colour and maybe feel , and one with a grey-black colour. The wood-like for the more uh exclusive people. People with more money. Uh the grey-black colour for well people with less means. That would be all.


Doh. 'Kay I'm uh gonna inform you about the trend-watching I've done over the past few days. Um we've done some market research. We distributed some more enquetes , questionnaires. And um besides that um I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paris to well get all of the newest trends. And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers , after the original trend-watchers return , about what the the best design would be. Um okay these are some overall findings. Um most important thing is the fancy design. Um the research indicated that that was by far the most important factor. Um innovativeness was about half as important as the fancy design. By innovativeness this means um functions which are not featured in other remote controls. Um about half of , half as important as the innovativeness was the was easy to use. Um for our um group , we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old , this is um , these factors are slightly more equal. 'Kay these are some more group specific findings. Uh the older people prefer dark colours. Uh they like recognisable shapes , and familiar material. And our surveys have indicated that especially wood is pretty much the material for older people. Um this is , this image will give you a little bit of an impression about um the look-and-feel that um the remote should have. Um this leads us to some personal preferences. Uh the remote control and the docking station should uh blend in in the in the room. Um so this would mean no uh eye-catching designs. Just keep it simple and  Well the docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest , because this would be the  These would uh be the innovativeness in the remote control. So this would be very important that we  at least include these features. Um well the trend-watchers I consulted advised that it b should be , the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped. So you could imagine that uh the remote control will be standing up straight in the docking station. This is not really  This is pretty much a new shape to uh older people. So they would prefer uh a design where the remote control just lies flat in the docking station. So it would be kinda more telephone-shaped. Um besides that we would advise um to bring two editions , one with a wood-like colour and maybe feel , and one with a grey-black colour. The wood-like for the more uh exclusive people. People with more money. Uh the grey-black colour for well people with less means. That would be all.

Okay. Thank you. Any questions about the the trends ?


Okay. Thank you. Any questions about the the trends ?


Um  'kay um yeah.  uh some uh research uh a about um designing of an interface. Um the uh last meeting uh we had a about um uh using a f few buttons. So uh um uh that's w what I what I want to uh uh to do in uh our design. So um finding an attractive uh way to control uh the remote control. Um the uh  I found some uh something about uh speech uh recognition. So maybe uh we can uh use uh that. Um  Uh and uh using a little uh display. So um findings. Um yeah just um we have just to focus on the primary um functions. So uh only uh buttons uh for uh sound , um for uh on-off , um uh shifting u up uh sa uh ca channel or uh down shifting down. Um uh let's see. Um yeah and  Uh  we uh need some uh new a attractive functions uh uh which attract uh uh people for using it. So uh it's uh like a speak uh speech uh recognition and um a special button for selecting uh subtitles. Just uh what we uh mentioned uh last uh meeting. Um and yeah overall um user-friendly. So uh using uh large large buttons. Um  It's uh possible to uh uh to make um quite cheap uh system for uh speech uh recognition. Um you can think about um uh when you lost your um remote control , you can uh call it and um it gives an um sig signal. So uh uh yeah. And and uh for uh shifting up a sen uh c ch channel or uh for um uh putting out uh sound or something , you can uh just give a sign uh say um sound off or  A and uh yeah. Television uh put the sound off uh put the sound off uh. Um  Let's see. Uh yeah. I was thinking about the special uh button for uh subtitles , um just one button to keep it uh simple. Uh one push on the button uh you get uh uh small uh subtitles. Um double push push um , if double click , um so uh you get uh big uh subtitles , for uh people uh um uh which c f uh who can't uh read small uh subtitles. So uh  Um  Yeah and w we have to keep uh in general buttons uh so um we've got um the buttons we have to use. The on-off , sound on-off , sound higher or lower , um the numbers , uh zero to uh uh nine. Um the general buttons m more general b one button for shifting up and shifting down uh channel. Um also we want to uh use a little d display uh for um for displaying the uh the functions of the buttons. And um we can uh build in a function f which uh shows the channel or some uh which the t television is on. So um made a little uh picture of uh it. Um  See. Um yeah. Just um we can put uh the on-off button uh over in this uh corner , um almost uh e all uh remote controls uh are using a on-off button on that place. Um so uh people uh will uh recognise uh um the button.


Um  'kay um yeah.  uh some uh research uh a about um designing of an interface. Um the uh last meeting uh we had a about um uh using a f few buttons. So uh um uh that's w what I what I want to uh uh to do in uh our design. So um finding an attractive uh way to control uh the remote control. Um the uh  I found some uh something about uh speech uh recognition. So maybe uh we can uh use uh that. Um  Uh and uh using a little uh display. So um findings. Um yeah just um we have just to focus on the primary um functions. So uh only uh buttons uh for uh sound , um for uh on-off , um uh shifting u up uh sa uh ca channel or uh down shifting down. Um uh let's see. Um yeah and  Uh  we uh need some uh new a attractive functions uh uh which attract uh uh people for using it. So uh it's uh like a speak uh speech uh recognition and um a special button for selecting uh subtitles. Just uh what we uh mentioned uh last uh meeting. Um and yeah overall um user-friendly. So uh using uh large large buttons. Um  It's uh possible to uh uh to make um quite cheap uh system for uh speech uh recognition. Um you can think about um uh when you lost your um remote control , you can uh call it and um it gives an um sig signal. So uh uh yeah. And and uh for uh shifting up a sen uh c ch channel or uh for um uh putting out uh sound or something , you can uh just give a sign uh say um sound off or  A and uh yeah. Television uh put the sound off uh put the sound off uh. Um  Let's see. Uh yeah. I was thinking about the special uh button for uh subtitles , um just one button to keep it uh simple. Uh one push on the button uh you get uh uh small uh subtitles. Um double push push um , if double click , um so uh you get uh big uh subtitles , for uh people uh um uh which c f uh who can't uh read small uh subtitles. So uh  Um  Yeah and w we have to keep uh in general buttons uh so um we've got um the buttons we have to use. The on-off , sound on-off , sound higher or lower , um the numbers , uh zero to uh uh nine. Um the general buttons m more general b one button for shifting up and shifting down uh channel. Um also we want to uh use a little d display uh for um for displaying the uh the functions of the buttons. And um we can uh build in a function f which uh shows the channel or some uh which the t television is on. So um made a little uh picture of uh it. Um  See. Um yeah. Just um we can put uh the on-off button uh over in this uh corner , um almost uh e all uh remote controls uh are using a on-off button on that place. Um so uh people uh will uh recognise uh um the button.

So um  D display uh of it , it's uh just a small display. Uh um you can put it uh on top. Um it's uh most uh uh place where people uh , most of  looks at. So uh um and a special uh button for shifting up uh and uh shifting down uh channel , um it's uh on place where um the thumb of of the  So you you can uh easily uh shift up or shift down. Um it's uh quite uh handy place. So um and uh all the f functions for subtitle uh one button , uh for sound uh  Uh and uh for our design , um uh we have to discuss about it uh I think uh so uh the form of it so


So um  D display uh of it , it's uh just a small display. Uh um you can put it uh on top. Um it's uh most uh uh place where people uh , most of  looks at. So uh um and a special uh button for shifting up uh and uh shifting down uh channel , um it's uh on place where um the thumb of of the  So you you can uh easily uh shift up or shift down. Um it's uh quite uh handy place. So um and uh all the f functions for subtitle uh one button , uh for sound uh  Uh and uh for our design , um uh we have to discuss about it uh I think uh so uh the form of it so


Okay. About the components design. Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or , a as an optional thing , a kinetic energy , like in a watch , which you just shake and it produces energy. But if we choose for that option , the docking station would c become obsolete. So I don't think it's really an option. Uh for the casing , uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing , single or double curved casing. It's really up the the design that we're gonna use. It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. Uh as a case supplement , we could um , I thought of that l later , uh a rubber uh belt , like a anti-slip. Uh for the b buttons , we can use plastic or rubber. And the chip-set , um it says simple here , but it should be advanced , because we're using an L_C_D_ uh screen. And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed , um people like wood , but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image , unless we would start two product lines. Form should follow function overall. Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. But depends on what we want. I think we should disc discuss that. Um for the case , uh the supplement and the buttons , it really depends on the designer. And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. And that's it.


Okay. About the components design. Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or , a as an optional thing , a kinetic energy , like in a watch , which you just shake and it produces energy. But if we choose for that option , the docking station would c become obsolete. So I don't think it's really an option. Uh for the casing , uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing , single or double curved casing. It's really up the the design that we're gonna use. It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. Uh as a case supplement , we could um , I thought of that l later , uh a rubber uh belt , like a anti-slip. Uh for the b buttons , we can use plastic or rubber. And the chip-set , um it says simple here , but it should be advanced , because we're using an L_C_D_ uh screen. And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed , um people like wood , but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image , unless we would start two product lines. Form should follow function overall. Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. But depends on what we want. I think we should disc discuss that. Um for the case , uh the supplement and the buttons , it really depends on the designer. And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. And that's it.

Okay. Thank you. So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. Mm.


Okay. About the components design. Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or , a as an optional thing , a kinetic energy , like in a watch , which you just shake and it produces energy. But if we choose for that option , the docking station would c become obsolete. So I don't think it's really an option. Uh for the casing , uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing , single or double curved casing. It's really up the the design that we're gonna use. It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. Uh as a case supplement , we could um , I thought of that l later , uh a rubber uh belt , like a anti-slip. Uh for the b buttons , we can use plastic or rubber. And the chip-set , um it says simple here , but it should be advanced , because we're using an L_C_D_ uh screen. And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed , um people like wood , but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image , unless we would start two product lines. Form should follow function overall. Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. But depends on what we want. I think we should disc discuss that. Um for the case , uh the supplement and the buttons , it really depends on the designer. And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. And that's it.

Okay. Thank you. So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. Mm.

'Kay. So these are the points we have to discuss. Um first I think we can talk about the energy source , since that's um has a pretty big influence on production price , uh and image.


Okay. About the components design. Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or , a as an optional thing , a kinetic energy , like in a watch , which you just shake and it produces energy. But if we choose for that option , the docking station would c become obsolete. So I don't think it's really an option. Uh for the casing , uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing , single or double curved casing. It's really up the the design that we're gonna use. It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. Uh as a case supplement , we could um , I thought of that l later , uh a rubber uh belt , like a anti-slip. Uh for the b buttons , we can use plastic or rubber. And the chip-set , um it says simple here , but it should be advanced , because we're using an L_C_D_ uh screen. And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed , um people like wood , but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image , unless we would start two product lines. Form should follow function overall. Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. But depends on what we want. I think we should disc discuss that. Um for the case , uh the supplement and the buttons , it really depends on the designer. And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. And that's it.

Okay. Thank you. So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. Mm.

'Kay. So these are the points we have to discuss. Um first I think we can talk about the energy source , since that's um has a pretty big influence on production price , uh and image.

Uh so uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy in our budget , I think.


Okay. Thank you. So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. Mm.

'Kay. So these are the points we have to discuss. Um first I think we can talk about the energy source , since that's um has a pretty big influence on production price , uh and image.

Uh so uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy in our budget , I think.

Yes w there there are four options. We could use the basic normal battery.


'Kay. So these are the points we have to discuss. Um first I think we can talk about the energy source , since that's um has a pretty big influence on production price , uh and image.

Uh so uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy in our budget , I think.

Yes w there there are four options. We could use the basic normal battery.


Uh so uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy in our budget , I think.

Yes w there there are four options. We could use the basic normal battery.


Yes w there there are four options. We could use the basic normal battery.


But I don't think that's  really an option.


But I don't think that's  really an option.

You don't wanna swing before you can watch television.


But I don't think that's  really an option.

You don't wanna swing before you can watch television.

Uh solar cells. But not every room is very light


You don't wanna swing before you can watch television.

Uh solar cells. But not every room is very light


Uh solar cells. But not every room is very light


And how exactly does the kinetic energy work ?


And how exactly does the kinetic energy work ?

Well y you basically shake your remote , and then it powers up.


Well y you basically shake your remote , and then it powers up.


Okay. Well personally I don't think that older people like to shake their remote control before they use it.


Okay. Well personally I don't think that older people like to shake their remote control before they use it.

And besides that you mentioned it would make the docking station obsolete.


And besides that you mentioned it would make the docking station obsolete.

And I think our docking station could be one of the marketing issues with which we can um get great popularity for our product.


And I think our docking station could be one of the marketing issues with which we can um get great popularity for our product.


what's the function ? Yeah f for loading up uh the batteries .


what's the function ? Yeah f for loading up uh the batteries .

you could um insert the find the lost remote control function in there.


you could um insert the find the lost remote control function in there.

Okay but uh it won't use uh much e energy uh I I believe. Uh it's uh just a small display so I believe uh it will run on one battery for um six months or f or or more. So I believe one battery uh is just enough.


Okay but uh it won't use uh much e energy uh I I believe. Uh it's uh just a small display so I believe uh it will run on one battery for um six months or f or or more. So I believe one battery uh is just enough.

Uh well I think uh elderly people just like to have everything in place.


Uh well I think uh elderly people just like to have everything in place.


Uh well I think uh elderly people just like to have everything in place.

And I don't think they they like uh remotes just laying everywhere in their rooms.


And I don't think they they like uh remotes just laying everywhere in their rooms.

So maybe a docking station will help them give the remote a place.


So maybe a docking station will help them give the remote a place.

And also what you said. Um you can introduce voice recognition by uh finding back your remote.


And also what you said. Um you can introduce voice recognition by uh finding back your remote.

But I think it's um more efficient and cheaper to put it in the docking station.


But I think it's um more efficient and cheaper to put it in the docking station.

So you have a but button on your docking station which you can push , and then it starts beeping.


So you have a but button on your docking station which you can push , and then it starts beeping.

And then we can we can still use the voice recognition , but maybe then for only the the channels.


And then we can we can still use the voice recognition , but maybe then for only the the channels.


And then we can we can still use the voice recognition , but maybe then for only the the channels.

I'm wondering um what will the voice recognition mean for the production price ?


I'm wondering um what will the voice recognition mean for the production price ?


I'm wondering um what will the voice recognition mean for the production price ?

Mm I don't have any information on pricing. So I'll have to ask the manufacturing department.


Mm I don't have any information on pricing. So I'll have to ask the manufacturing department.

'Cause in our earlier um market research , if you'd allow me to go to the flat board , SMARTboard.


'Cause in our earlier um market research , if you'd allow me to go to the flat board , SMARTboard.

Um so it was open here. Um we also um asked if w they would , if people would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Well you can see here , our target group would not do that.


Um so it was open here. Um we also um asked if w they would , if people would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Well you can see here , our target group would not do that.

So if that would increase the price for which we're selling our remote control


So if that would increase the price for which we're selling our remote control


I think that would be better to uh insert in our other product , that is meant for the


But that would also go for the L_C_D_ screen then I guess. It's a bit higher percentage , but


But that would also go for the L_C_D_ screen then I guess. It's a bit higher percentage , but

Um well this is Yeah but this is here the question was , would you prefer it. So that doesn't really mean they wouldn't pay extra for it. And on top of that the L_C_D_ screen would um help in making the remote control easier to use.


Um well this is Yeah but this is here the question was , would you prefer it. So that doesn't really mean they wouldn't pay extra for it. And on top of that the L_C_D_ screen would um help in making the remote control easier to use.


And I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much easier to use.


And I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much easier to use.

Easier to use ? No , I think that's a good point.


And I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much easier to use.

Easier to use ? No , I think that's a good point.

But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L_C_D_ sh uh display , or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use ?


And I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much easier to use.

Easier to use ? No , I think that's a good point.

But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L_C_D_ sh uh display , or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use ?

Um well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones.


Easier to use ? No , I think that's a good point.

But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L_C_D_ sh uh display , or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use ?

Um well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones.


But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L_C_D_ sh uh display , or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use ?

Um well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones.


Um well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones.


I personally think the L_C_D_ screen we wanna use , with the extra information , I think nobody has anything against it. Because it's just uh some extra information ,


I personally think the L_C_D_ screen we wanna use , with the extra information , I think nobody has anything against it. Because it's just uh some extra information ,

and it's easy to ignore as well. So if you don't wanna use it you just don't use it.


and it's easy to ignore as well. So if you don't wanna use it you just don't use it.

And um yeah I think the um  Maybe we have to uh discard the voice recognition. Because it will increase cost uh signifi uh significantly. And I don't think the  I don't think it will be a lot easier to use , as well.


And um yeah I think the um  Maybe we have to uh discard the voice recognition. Because it will increase cost uh signifi uh significantly. And I don't think the  I don't think it will be a lot easier to use , as well.

So that brings us back to the energy. If we don't have the voice recognition , it will it won't use a lot of energy to use. Um


So that brings us back to the energy. If we don't have the voice recognition , it will it won't use a lot of energy to use. Um

So in that case we could use kinetic uh energy , but I think just a simple battery which you can reload on a docking station is just as good. And much cheaper as well.


So in that case we could use kinetic uh energy , but I think just a simple battery which you can reload on a docking station is just as good. And much cheaper as well.


Okay let me just choose for the battery. That brings us to the chip.


Okay let me just choose for the battery. That brings us to the chip.

Well there isn't any choice there because we're using the the the the display.


Well there isn't any choice there because we're using the the the the display.


, advanced chip. And then we get to the point of the case. Um which brings us a little bit back to marketing as well. Uh if we wanna choose for wood or the black and grey. Or both ? Um as we saw there is not  Yeah wood is a lot more expensive to produce.


, advanced chip. And then we get to the point of the case. Um which brings us a little bit back to marketing as well. Uh if we wanna choose for wood or the black and grey. Or both ? Um as we saw there is not  Yeah wood is a lot more expensive to produce.

Um but I think it will attract elderly people who wanna have something exclusive , which they can show off to their grandkids.


Um but I think it will attract elderly people who wanna have something exclusive , which they can show off to their grandkids.

Look I've got a new remote control , and uh


Look I've got a new remote control , and uh

Well   And I think most important factor there is the wooden colour. So it wouldn't actually have to be wood ,


Well   And I think most important factor there is the wooden colour. So it wouldn't actually have to be wood ,


But with colour was a lot more expensive ? Or ?


It's a lot more difficult to to handle and to to get in the right shape.


It's a lot more difficult to to handle and to to get in the right shape.

Mm. Uh is it possible uh to make um changeable uh case. So um uh you 'cause uh  Yeah with uh mobile phones uh uh so uh like the Nokia mobile phones , uh when you can change the case of it.


Mm. Uh is it possible uh to make um changeable uh case. So um uh you 'cause uh  Yeah with uh mobile phones uh uh so uh like the Nokia mobile phones , uh when you can change the case of it.


maybe it's possible uh possibility. So um um you have just to make one um standard um remote control , and um yeah you can sell uh few uh


maybe it's possible uh possibility. So um um you have just to make one um standard um remote control , and um yeah you can sell uh few uh

Yeah. I think that's a very good option. Because um then you can advertise as well with the  Give your grandfather a new case for his remote control , or whatever.


Yeah. I think that's a very good option. Because um then you can advertise as well with the  Give your grandfather a new case for his remote control , or whatever.


Yeah. I think that's a very good option. Because um then you can advertise as well with the  Give your grandfather a new case for his remote control , or whatever.

Because that's a  it's something extra , it's something other remotes don't have ,


Because that's a  it's something extra , it's something other remotes don't have ,

which we can get a great advantage point.


which we can get a great advantage point.

So and then you can make them with colour. Black and grey , other colours as well.


So and then you can make them with colour. Black and grey , other colours as well.

Yeah. We would have to look carefully into the design though.


Yeah. We would have to look carefully into the design though.

'Cause we would have to make one w uh control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a plastic cover. The more original one , or the more standard one.


'Cause we would have to make one w uh control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a plastic cover. The more original one , or the more standard one.


'Cause we would have to make one w uh control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a plastic cover. The more original one , or the more standard one.

you suggest we should design two different telephones on which you can apply , yeah  remote controls , on which you can apply different case covers , for example.


you suggest we should design two different telephones on which you can apply , yeah  remote controls , on which you can apply different case covers , for example.


you suggest we should design two different telephones on which you can apply , yeah  remote controls , on which you can apply different case covers , for example.

Well no I think w we should just , we should then just design one um


Well no I think w we should just , we should then just design one um


Well no I think w we should just , we should then just design one um

one remote , but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the plastic one.


one remote , but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the plastic one.

So , but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.


one remote , but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the plastic one.

So , but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

So everybody's okay with the changing covers ? I think that's a good uh good option.


So , but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

So everybody's okay with the changing covers ? I think that's a good uh good option.


So everybody's okay with the changing covers ? I think that's a good uh good option.


Um I heard our Industrial Designer talk about uh flat , single and double curved.


Well the the general like most older remotes are flat , just straight.


Well the the general like most older remotes are flat , just straight.

And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases.


Well the the general like most older remotes are flat , just straight.

And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases.

And what would single curved and double curved mean ?


And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases.

And what would single curved and double curved mean ?

Um it would just only affect the form , for as far as I know. So it's j really just up to the design department what we're gonna use. It doesn't really matter for the price or the functionality.


And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases.

And what would single curved and double curved mean ?

Um it would just only affect the form , for as far as I know. So it's j really just up to the design department what we're gonna use. It doesn't really matter for the price or the functionality.

Okay. So we can pretty much just do whatever we want.