'Kay , I'll just be talking about the components design. And   Okay , basically I just uh looked at what exactly do remotes do. Uh basically they wait for you to press a key or give a voice command and then this is translated uh into uh light signals which are then seen by the T_V_. Uh the materials we're gonna need to look at  uh the two big ones are the integrated circuit chip and the battery and the in integrated circuit chip uh works in conjunction with a a diode transistor or resonator , uh two more resistors and a capacitor and the battery works in conjunction with a resistor and a capacitor. Um.  Uh basically what happens is you'll press a number or give a voice command and this creates a a connection within the the remote that allows the chip  the chip then senses this connection and produces a signal in a Morse code format. This signal's sent to the transistor which amplifies it and then sends it on to the light emitting diode and uh  which is then trai changed into a infrared light which is sent to the T_V_ and sort of seen by the T_V_ and which uh changes the channels.  Um. Oh.  Uh cool.  Uh so as for how we should end up uh using this in our remote uh t couple of main questions are the buttons. Uh y the fewer buttons you have , I guess the fewer internal connections and internal codes you're gonna need. Um however uh to n not have buttons or to use a voice commands instead of buttons might make these connections more difficult and uh raise the production cost. That's something we should think about. Also we have to work within the company constraints , and the company has informed me via email that uh they're experts at pushbuttons and that seems to be the most uh cost-effective way of producing it. Um also with battery connections the company has some limits on the batteries we can use , so I was thinking perhaps a combination of solar cells with a back-up basic battery and somehow between the combination of that two we might be able to come up with something that uh will last the the lifetime or the five to ten years and we could still keep that original idea.  Um we also need to look at the chips , uh v custom-designed versus off the shelf , and the custom-designed will give us much more flexibility and enable us to incorporate the voice function that we all uh seem to have agreed upon. Um , however that's gonna cost more , but uh the off the shelf is gonna be uh cheaper and it's gonna be  allow us to produce it quicker and get out there faster , but it's going to be less flexible with the features , especially things like uh voice activation , which haven't really been used much on remotes , so there's not really chips out there that would be easy to uh to convert ,

so if we were uh definitely gonna go with the the voice option we'd probably have to design um our own chip.  And that pretty much sums it up.


'Kay , I'll just be talking about the components design. And   Okay , basically I just uh looked at what exactly do remotes do. Uh basically they wait for you to press a key or give a voice command and then this is translated uh into uh light signals which are then seen by the T_V_. Uh the materials we're gonna need to look at  uh the two big ones are the integrated circuit chip and the battery and the in integrated circuit chip uh works in conjunction with a a diode transistor or resonator , uh two more resistors and a capacitor and the battery works in conjunction with a resistor and a capacitor. Um.  Uh basically what happens is you'll press a number or give a voice command and this creates a a connection within the the remote that allows the chip  the chip then senses this connection and produces a signal in a Morse code format. This signal's sent to the transistor which amplifies it and then sends it on to the light emitting diode and uh  which is then trai changed into a infrared light which is sent to the T_V_ and sort of seen by the T_V_ and which uh changes the channels.  Um. Oh.  Uh cool.  Uh so as for how we should end up uh using this in our remote uh t couple of main questions are the buttons. Uh y the fewer buttons you have , I guess the fewer internal connections and internal codes you're gonna need. Um however uh to n not have buttons or to use a voice commands instead of buttons might make these connections more difficult and uh raise the production cost. That's something we should think about. Also we have to work within the company constraints , and the company has informed me via email that uh they're experts at pushbuttons and that seems to be the most uh cost-effective way of producing it. Um also with battery connections the company has some limits on the batteries we can use , so I was thinking perhaps a combination of solar cells with a back-up basic battery and somehow between the combination of that two we might be able to come up with something that uh will last the the lifetime or the five to ten years and we could still keep that original idea.  Um we also need to look at the chips , uh v custom-designed versus off the shelf , and the custom-designed will give us much more flexibility and enable us to incorporate the voice function that we all uh seem to have agreed upon. Um , however that's gonna cost more , but uh the off the shelf is gonna be uh cheaper and it's gonna be  allow us to produce it quicker and get out there faster , but it's going to be less flexible with the features , especially things like uh voice activation , which haven't really been used much on remotes , so there's not really chips out there that would be easy to uh to convert ,

so if we were uh definitely gonna go with the the voice option we'd probably have to design um our own chip.  And that pretty much sums it up.

so how um  sorry , can you uh just put that one back up again , please ? Um.


so if we were uh definitely gonna go with the the voice option we'd probably have to design um our own chip.  And that pretty much sums it up.

so how um  sorry , can you uh just put that one back up again , please ? Um.


so if we were uh definitely gonna go with the the voice option we'd probably have to design um our own chip.  And that pretty much sums it up.

so how um  sorry , can you uh just put that one back up again , please ? Um.

Uh d d d  okay , I mean uh inevitably a b a custom design chip is gonna be more expensive. Do we do we know uh by how much ?


so how um  sorry , can you uh just put that one back up again , please ? Um.

Uh d d d  okay , I mean uh inevitably a b a custom design chip is gonna be more expensive. Do we do we know uh by how much ?

Mm.  Um I don't actually have any price information , no.


Uh d d d  okay , I mean uh inevitably a b a custom design chip is gonna be more expensive. Do we do we know uh by how much ?

Mm.  Um I don't actually have any price information , no.

And and do we know how long it'll take to uh develop a a custom chip.


Uh d d d  okay , I mean uh inevitably a b a custom design chip is gonna be more expensive. Do we do we know uh by how much ?

Mm.  Um I don't actually have any price information , no.

And and do we know how long it'll take to uh develop a a custom chip.

Um it  a lot longer than an off the shelf chip. Oh w yeah , we did  the the problem is the the the voice technology is not really highly developed ,


Mm.  Um I don't actually have any price information , no.

And and do we know how long it'll take to uh develop a a custom chip.

Um it  a lot longer than an off the shelf chip. Oh w yeah , we did  the the problem is the the the voice technology is not really highly developed ,


And and do we know how long it'll take to uh develop a a custom chip.

Um it  a lot longer than an off the shelf chip. Oh w yeah , we did  the the problem is the the the voice technology is not really highly developed ,

it's sort of still still in an ex experimental form ,


Um it  a lot longer than an off the shelf chip. Oh w yeah , we did  the the problem is the the the voice technology is not really highly developed ,

it's sort of still still in an ex experimental form ,


it's sort of still still in an ex experimental form ,

uh so it would uh  it's hard to predict the time.


it's sort of still still in an ex experimental form ,

uh so it would uh  it's hard to predict the time.

Right , I think we need to make a a decision here. Uh given that the company wants this on the market quickly and cheaply ,


uh so it would uh  it's hard to predict the time.

Right , I think we need to make a a decision here. Uh given that the company wants this on the market quickly and cheaply ,


uh so it would uh  it's hard to predict the time.

Right , I think we need to make a a decision here. Uh given that the company wants this on the market quickly and cheaply ,

that would appear to uh effectively constrain us to an existing chip and thus therefore conventional button technology. Um uh now before we go round everybody else , does anybody um h have any have anyti ha anything to say about that ?


Right , I think we need to make a a decision here. Uh given that the company wants this on the market quickly and cheaply ,

that would appear to uh effectively constrain us to an existing chip and thus therefore conventional button technology. Um uh now before we go round everybody else , does anybody um h have any have anyti ha anything to say about that ?

I  I just have a question about that. Um does it make a difference if there are just a few commands , for example if you um can pre-programme in like numbers one through ten and pre-programme say , you know , nine channels and then just use the voice recognition to say channel one and then you've programmed in say B_B_C_ four as your channel one , as your favourite , it's like to have a certain number of favourites um


that would appear to uh effectively constrain us to an existing chip and thus therefore conventional button technology. Um uh now before we go round everybody else , does anybody um h have any have anyti ha anything to say about that ?

I  I just have a question about that. Um does it make a difference if there are just a few commands , for example if you um can pre-programme in like numbers one through ten and pre-programme say , you know , nine channels and then just use the voice recognition to say channel one and then you've programmed in say B_B_C_ four as your channel one , as your favourite , it's like to have a certain number of favourites um

W just to to incorporate the voice activation in it is is sorta the trick.


I  I just have a question about that. Um does it make a difference if there are just a few commands , for example if you um can pre-programme in like numbers one through ten and pre-programme say , you know , nine channels and then just use the voice recognition to say channel one and then you've programmed in say B_B_C_ four as your channel one , as your favourite , it's like to have a certain number of favourites um

W just to to incorporate the voice activation in it is is sorta the trick.

Once you've got the whole voice chip in there , then it's pretty much the the world  the the sky is your limit ,


W just to to incorporate the voice activation in it is is sorta the trick.

Once you've got the whole voice chip in there , then it's pretty much the the world  the the sky is your limit ,


Once you've got the whole voice chip in there , then it's pretty much the the world  the the sky is your limit ,

but to actually  the the big step is to actually get the voice activation chips in there and working.


but to actually  the the big step is to actually get the voice activation chips in there and working.

Cause uh I  must say I find it slightly surprising given that , you know , mobile phones incorporate voice activated dialling. So uh um I mean


Cause uh I  must say I find it slightly surprising given that , you know , mobile phones incorporate voice activated dialling. So uh um I mean

I d d for slightly different  well no , I mean , it's if you you  speak somebody's name and it'll dial the number for you , so uh bu I mean the this this information is from  is  this is the internal company information , is it ?


I d d for slightly different  well no , I mean , it's if you you  speak somebody's name and it'll dial the number for you , so uh bu I mean the this this information is from  is  this is the internal company information , is it ?


I d d for slightly different  well no , I mean , it's if you you  speak somebody's name and it'll dial the number for you , so uh bu I mean the this this information is from  is  this is the internal company information , is it ?

Of course mobile phones do tend to be more expensive ,


Of course mobile phones do tend to be more expensive ,


Of course mobile phones do tend to be more expensive ,

you know , hundred and fifty pounds or something. As opposed to the twenty Euros , twenty five Euros.


Of course mobile phones do tend to be more expensive ,

you know , hundred and fifty pounds or something. As opposed to the twenty Euros , twenty five Euros.

Yeah , mm true , again but if it's without any without any uh p price informations that's uh difficult to uh


you know , hundred and fifty pounds or something. As opposed to the twenty Euros , twenty five Euros.

Yeah , mm true , again but if it's without any without any uh p price informations that's uh difficult to uh


Yeah , mm true , again but if it's without any without any uh p price informations that's uh difficult to uh

Also lots of mobile phones have got a lot of technology in them , not just that , so.


Also lots of mobile phones have got a lot of technology in them , not just that , so.


Also lots of mobile phones have got a lot of technology in them , not just that , so.

Yeah , that's that's right. It's like  it's it's  you can't  'cause mobile phones are expensive , you can't say it's the voice recognition bit that is.


Yeah , that's that's right. It's like  it's it's  you can't  'cause mobile phones are expensive , you can't say it's the voice recognition bit that is.

But we don't know. Um.  I mean uh I su i I mean if  given that the um the technology is not well developed and and given that it's it's never been done before , um th th the double risk , uh perhaps we ought to uh stick to uh to buttons , since the last thing we want to do is present a product that doesn't work. Um. Thoughts ?


But we don't know. Um.  I mean uh I su i I mean if  given that the um the technology is not well developed and and given that it's it's never been done before , um th th the double risk , uh perhaps we ought to uh stick to uh to buttons , since the last thing we want to do is present a product that doesn't work. Um. Thoughts ?


Oh I was just gonna say mayb maybe it sh like um  maybe we can like cut corners somewhere else to bring in over cost.


Oh I was just gonna say mayb maybe it sh like um  maybe we can like cut corners somewhere else to bring in over cost.

I mean do w do we think that the voice technology is fundamental to the project ?


Oh I was just gonna say mayb maybe it sh like um  maybe we can like cut corners somewhere else to bring in over cost.

I mean do w do we think that the voice technology is fundamental to the project ?

Uh it's fundament well I mean I guess it it's something we've discussed uh since the the sort of the beginning , so I th I think in in our in our minds it's it's fundamental , but I don't know that the uh the upper echelons of the company would necessarily agree with that , so I think you have to


I mean do w do we think that the voice technology is fundamental to the project ?

Uh it's fundament well I mean I guess it it's something we've discussed uh since the the sort of the beginning , so I th I think in in our in our minds it's it's fundamental , but I don't know that the uh the upper echelons of the company would necessarily agree with that , so I think you have to


Uh it's fundament well I mean I guess it it's something we've discussed uh since the the sort of the beginning , so I th I think in in our in our minds it's it's fundamental , but I don't know that the uh the upper echelons of the company would necessarily agree with that , so I think you have to


Well , I kinda think if we're gonna have the voice recognition for part of it , then maybe we should have it for the whole thing.


Well , I kinda think if we're gonna have the voice recognition for part of it , then maybe we should have it for the whole thing.

And we've been talking about it the whole time.


And we've been talking about it the whole time.


And we've been talking about it the whole time.

Anyway , I'm I'm incli kinda inclined to say that we should just go for it.


Anyway , I'm I'm incli kinda inclined to say that we should just go for it.


Anyway , I'm I'm incli kinda inclined to say that we should just go for it.

Uh yeah ,  it's the second most important aspect to users that the device should be technologically innovative.


Uh yeah ,  it's the second most important aspect to users that the device should be technologically innovative.


if if that means uh if that means we can't afford buttons but I mean b b


if if that means uh if that means we can't afford buttons but I mean b b

second question , do we need the five buttons for channel change , up down ,  volume up down and on off , just as a a backup or just so that people can uh j j just sit there pressing buttons ?


second question , do we need the five buttons for channel change , up down ,  volume up down and on off , just as a a backup or just so that people can uh j j just sit there pressing buttons ?


Right. Okay. Sorry , d did you want to say anything ? No ?


so I did some research on the internet and um  what   you know , the interf user interface are just aspects that are seen by users , um commands and mechanisms for the operation , and there're just kind of a variety of choices. Um findings , so a lot of times they tend to look cluttered


so I did some research on the internet and um  what   you know , the interf user interface are just aspects that are seen by users , um commands and mechanisms for the operation , and there're just kind of a variety of choices. Um findings , so a lot of times they tend to look cluttered

and these were just a couple examples of um different kinds that are a little bit more unusual.


and these were just a couple examples of um different kinds that are a little bit more unusual.

There're some special ones available , like this one right here ,


There're some special ones available , like this one right here ,

which is marketed towards children , um different designs ,


which is marketed towards children , um different designs ,

and one of the things that n we need to watch out for is a V_ in volume because people some  Bring a little picture of what I thought ours could look like .


and one of the things that n we need to watch out for is a V_ in volume because people some  Bring a little picture of what I thought ours could look like .


and one of the things that n we need to watch out for is a V_ in volume because people some  Bring a little picture of what I thought ours could look like .

avoid too many buttons and also um  one of the things that people have used is a slide button , like you have on a mouse , that possibly we could use that on the sides for volume , for example , have the slide button on the side ,


avoid too many buttons and also um  one of the things that people have used is a slide button , like you have on a mouse , that possibly we could use that on the sides for volume , for example , have the slide button on the side ,


avoid too many buttons and also um  one of the things that people have used is a slide button , like you have on a mouse , that possibly we could use that on the sides for volume , for example , have the slide button on the side ,

and then you can pre-programme the channels , the voice recognition and then the voice response sample locator.


avoid too many buttons and also um  one of the things that people have used is a slide button , like you have on a mouse , that possibly we could use that on the sides for volume , for example , have the slide button on the side ,

and then you can pre-programme the channels , the voice recognition and then the voice response sample locator.

Mm yeah. Sorry y y yeah ,  if I can interrupt you. Well d  p 'kay , do you wanna say anything about um slide controls ?


and then you can pre-programme the channels , the voice recognition and then the voice response sample locator.

Mm yeah. Sorry y y yeah ,  if I can interrupt you. Well d  p 'kay , do you wanna say anything about um slide controls ?


and then you can pre-programme the channels , the voice recognition and then the voice response sample locator.

Mm yeah. Sorry y y yeah ,  if I can interrupt you. Well d  p 'kay , do you wanna say anything about um slide controls ?

I mean I think the reason everybody uses pushbuttons is that they're they're si simple , cheap and reliable.


Mm yeah. Sorry y y yeah ,  if I can interrupt you. Well d  p 'kay , do you wanna say anything about um slide controls ?

I mean I think the reason everybody uses pushbuttons is that they're they're si simple , cheap and reliable.

Uh   Uh I think they're they're about the same cost really. I I mean , I think it's just sort of  the the   there's a lot of slide buttons out there. I think it's pretty much the same sort of connection. Mm yeah.


I mean I think the reason everybody uses pushbuttons is that they're they're si simple , cheap and reliable.

Uh   Uh I think they're they're about the same cost really. I I mean , I think it's just sort of  the the   there's a lot of slide buttons out there. I think it's pretty much the same sort of connection. Mm yeah.


I mean I think the reason everybody uses pushbuttons is that they're they're si simple , cheap and reliable.

Uh   Uh I think they're they're about the same cost really. I I mean , I think it's just sort of  the the   there's a lot of slide buttons out there. I think it's pretty much the same sort of connection. Mm yeah.

Just because I n for example if I'm using a mouse I like to be able to slide it up and down


Uh   Uh I think they're they're about the same cost really. I I mean , I think it's just sort of  the the   there's a lot of slide buttons out there. I think it's pretty much the same sort of connection. Mm yeah.

Just because I n for example if I'm using a mouse I like to be able to slide it up and down


Just because I n for example if I'm using a mouse I like to be able to slide it up and down

so I thought it might be good for volume to just be able to kind of roll it and then have the up and down


so I thought it might be good for volume to just be able to kind of roll it and then have the up and down


So three three  there's three buttons on a slider.


So three three  there's three buttons on a slider.

Three buttons , channel up channel up down and


So three three  there's three buttons on a slider.

Three buttons , channel up channel up down and

Well , if you g if you if you got a channel up down , we can have a slider in that as well. Because if it  if you no


Three buttons , channel up channel up down and

Well , if you g if you if you got a channel up down , we can have a slider in that as well. Because if it  if you no

if you notice on the thing it it kind of like has got kind of  if you you know it s kind of like sticks , if you know what I mean , up like one unit , if you see what I mean.


Well , if you g if you if you got a channel up down , we can have a slider in that as well. Because if it  if you no

if you notice on the thing it it kind of like has got kind of  if you you know it s kind of like sticks , if you know what I mean , up like one unit , if you see what I mean.


if you notice on the thing it it kind of like has got kind of  if you you know it s kind of like sticks , if you know what I mean , up like one unit , if you see what I mean.

So it kinda goes up one , then y like you can keep rolling it up , but it's like like like like a cog or something.


So it kinda goes up one , then y like you can keep rolling it up , but it's like like like like a cog or something.


The only advantage I was thinking of to having the buttons , like the buttons on one side for the channel , and then the slider is that if you're just holding in your hand , and you pick it up , it's easy to n s know , okay , this is just the volume and this is the channel.


Uh you could you could  as l as like a mouse you could


Uh you could you could  as l as like a mouse you could

Ye yeah , 'cause I've definitely picked up remotes and like meant to change the channel and turn the volume , or vice versa ,


Ye yeah , 'cause I've definitely picked up remotes and like meant to change the channel and turn the volume , or vice versa ,


so it'd be kinda good to have them be  feel completely different. You'd know what you were fiddling with.


so it'd be kinda good to have them be  feel completely different. You'd know what you were fiddling with.

or  yeah uh th th the  I mean thi this is what the


or  yeah uh th th the  I mean thi this is what the


or  yeah uh th th the  I mean thi this is what the

Yeah , like the shape of it almost like a mouse , with a


or  yeah uh th th the  I mean thi this is what the

Yeah , like the shape of it almost like a mouse , with a

we have to come up with is the the actual shape that people can ins instantly pick it up and and know know uh know what it's going to do.


Yeah , like the shape of it almost like a mouse , with a

we have to come up with is the the actual shape that people can ins instantly pick it up and and know know uh know what it's going to do.


we have to come up with is the the actual shape that people can ins instantly pick it up and and know know uh know what it's going to do.

Okay , so we we're looking at sliders for both a  uh volume and channel change


Okay , so we we're looking at sliders for both a  uh volume and channel change


Okay , so we we're looking at sliders for both a  uh volume and channel change

I was thinking kind of just for the volume ,


I was thinking kind of just for the volume ,


depending on the final shape of it , 'cause you could have like , I dunno ,  it looks like you can c control the volume with your thumb ,


depending on the final shape of it , 'cause you could have like , I dunno ,  it looks like you can c control the volume with your thumb ,

and then you could control the buttons with your fingers.


and then you could control the buttons with your fingers.


'cause if  yeah , in that kinda position the fingers would be better for pressing and the  that for rolling ,


'cause if  yeah , in that kinda position the fingers would be better for pressing and the  that for rolling ,

It  yeah , I mean it it it seems to me that uh it uh it al also has the advantage that it it  the two are clearly different ,


It  yeah , I mean it it it seems to me that uh it uh it al also has the advantage that it it  the two are clearly different ,


um that there's no no possibility of uh confusing the two.


that's  sorry is that that all you want to say at the mo


Uh yeah , this is my report on trend watching.


Uh yeah , this is my report on trend watching.

The data's come off internet uh from executive summary for us on the top three things wanted by the consumer. And we got reports from Paris , Milan on new fashions.


Uh yeah , this is my report on trend watching.

The data's come off internet uh from executive summary for us on the top three things wanted by the consumer. And we got reports from Paris , Milan on new fashions.

And uh the most important aspect is the l the look  it has to look fancy , look and feel


The data's come off internet uh from executive summary for us on the top three things wanted by the consumer. And we got reports from Paris , Milan on new fashions.

And uh the most important aspect is the l the look  it has to look fancy , look and feel


The data's come off internet uh from executive summary for us on the top three things wanted by the consumer. And we got reports from Paris , Milan on new fashions.

And uh the most important aspect is the l the look  it has to look fancy , look and feel

uh instead of the current functional look and feel. This is a st well I was gonna say yeah twice as important as the second aspect ,


And uh the most important aspect is the l the look  it has to look fancy , look and feel

uh instead of the current functional look and feel. This is a st well I was gonna say yeah twice as important as the second aspect ,


uh instead of the current functional look and feel. This is a st well I was gonna say yeah twice as important as the second aspect ,

which is the technologically innov innovative um side of it. So uh and the third being easy to use is probably a given , we have to try and incorporate , so uh


uh instead of the current functional look and feel. This is a st well I was gonna say yeah twice as important as the second aspect ,

which is the technologically innov innovative um side of it. So uh and the third being easy to use is probably a given , we have to try and incorporate , so uh

Well I I mean I th I think that what we're suggesting ought to address all three of those.


which is the technologically innov innovative um side of it. So uh and the third being easy to use is probably a given , we have to try and incorporate , so uh

Well I I mean I th I think that what we're suggesting ought to address all three of those.


Well I I mean I th I think that what we're suggesting ought to address all three of those.


I s that out of sequence ? Uh yeah , sorry. Uh yeah , and uh from the fashion watchers from Milan and Paris have said fruit and vegetables are an important theme for clothes and furniture and shoes , et cetera.


I s that out of sequence ? Uh yeah , sorry. Uh yeah , and uh from the fashion watchers from Milan and Paris have said fruit and vegetables are an important theme for clothes and furniture and shoes , et cetera.

Uh sorry , clothes , shoes and furniture


Uh sorry , clothes , shoes and furniture

and uh a spongy material to be used on the  on the outside.


Uh sorry , clothes , shoes and furniture

and uh a spongy material to be used on the  on the outside.

Mm I hadn't thought of that , that's different , certainly.


and uh a spongy material to be used on the  on the outside.

Mm I hadn't thought of that , that's different , certainly.


Mm I hadn't thought of that , that's different , certainly.


fruit and vegetables , uh important to  this year um important to furniture , I'm just gonna say uh  f like it's in  if if fashion  if we're going for the it looks fancy , then fashion is obviously the line we gotta be going through.


Well that can kinda tie into our changing uh face things , like we could have the fruit and vegetable theme this year


Well that can kinda tie into our changing uh face things , like we could have the fruit and vegetable theme this year

and uh whatever happens next year , we can have the face plates ,


and uh whatever happens next year , we can have the face plates ,

Yeah. Yeah , we can have a sp like a spongy skin on it


Yeah. Yeah , we can have a sp like a spongy skin on it


Yeah like the kind you get on like hand weights. You know , that kind of spongy


Yeah like the kind you get on like hand weights. You know , that kind of spongy

Mm , yeah , that weird  I dunno what that is ,


Mm , yeah , that weird  I dunno what that is ,


Also means you can drop it without damaging it.


That's  c cool. Um  you have  we could  if we could save  depending on the cost of the product itself , you know , could we have uh a cheaper b cheaper power source and then just have it annually renewed ? Instead of having a ten year guarantee ? With interchangeable covers , could just buy a new one every year , a new one when new fashions come out.


That's  c cool. Um  you have  we could  if we could save  depending on the cost of the product itself , you know , could we have uh a cheaper b cheaper power source and then just have it annually renewed ? Instead of having a ten year guarantee ? With interchangeable covers , could just buy a new one every year , a new one when new fashions come out.

I I mean it its uh I  that's an interesting idea , it's like the old Swatch watch where uh um on only batteries ever got changed in those , 'cause people just bought a new one when it went out of fashion ,


I I mean it its uh I  that's an interesting idea , it's like the old Swatch watch where uh um on only batteries ever got changed in those , 'cause people just bought a new one when it went out of fashion ,


I I mean it its uh I  that's an interesting idea , it's like the old Swatch watch where uh um on only batteries ever got changed in those , 'cause people just bought a new one when it went out of fashion ,

but it's just never been seen as a a fashion item before. Um that's


but it's just never been seen as a a fashion item before. Um that's


but it's just never been seen as a a fashion item before. Um that's

yes if if if they're made in sufficient quantity


yes if if if they're made in sufficient quantity

I  I think it's easier sometimes to have them buy changeable covers for it than to buy a whole new one , because you don't feel like you're investing in a whole new product.


yes if if if they're made in sufficient quantity

I  I think it's easier sometimes to have them buy changeable covers for it than to buy a whole new one , because you don't feel like you're investing in a whole new product.

W I mean we we can uh uh b but I mean my feeling is that current power sources are such that for relatively little cost you can make it last , you know , a long time.


I  I think it's easier sometimes to have them buy changeable covers for it than to buy a whole new one , because you don't feel like you're investing in a whole new product.

W I mean we we can uh uh b but I mean my feeling is that current power sources are such that for relatively little cost you can make it last , you know , a long time.

Um but if we also make it cheap enough that people either change the cover every year or even buy a new one every year then it it's it's even better.


W I mean we we can uh uh b but I mean my feeling is that current power sources are such that for relatively little cost you can make it last , you know , a long time.

Um but if we also make it cheap enough that people either change the cover every year or even buy a new one every year then it it's it's even better.


Um but if we also make it cheap enough that people either change the cover every year or even buy a new one every year then it it's it's even better.

What if we included the batteries in the cover ?


What if we included the batteries in the cover ?


That all c also kind of encourages 'em to buy new covers


I n I know  the only p I mean the the the the immediate thing that comes to mind with that is that it it it  y you've then got the connection


I n I know  the only p I mean the the the the immediate thing that comes to mind with that is that it it it  y you've then got the connection

and you've immediately got a sort of unreliability , whereas the advantage of having it plumbed in is that that the whole thing is all , you know , completely soldered together


and you've immediately got a sort of unreliability , whereas the advantage of having it plumbed in is that that the whole thing is all , you know , completely soldered together

and it it it  you know , total reliability ,


and it it it  you know , total reliability ,


and it it it  you know , total reliability ,

but I mean I d I I uh I know what you're saying and uh understand where you're coming from.


but I mean I d I I uh I know what you're saying and uh understand where you're coming from.

Or  well , but like uh like more than just the battery , like a complete different  like you've only got like , you know like th uh this bit's the bit you keep , and this is the expensive bit , this is like the chip


but I mean I d I I uh I know what you're saying and uh understand where you're coming from.

Or  well , but like uh like more than just the battery , like a complete different  like you've only got like , you know like th uh this bit's the bit you keep , and this is the expensive bit , this is like the chip

and this is the microphone. And then this is the power source and the bit everyone sees. And then


Or  well , but like uh like more than just the battery , like a complete different  like you've only got like , you know like th uh this bit's the bit you keep , and this is the expensive bit , this is like the chip

and this is the microphone. And then this is the power source and the bit everyone sees. And then

I th I s I think if we're gonna go down that route , then we're talking about uh  even if it costs slightly more than that , um just building the whole thing in one , then having  getting cheaper production costs


and this is the microphone. And then this is the power source and the bit everyone sees. And then

I th I s I think if we're gonna go down that route , then we're talking about uh  even if it costs slightly more than that , um just building the whole thing in one , then having  getting cheaper production costs


and this is the microphone. And then this is the power source and the bit everyone sees. And then

I th I s I think if we're gonna go down that route , then we're talking about uh  even if it costs slightly more than that , um just building the whole thing in one , then having  getting cheaper production costs

um and , you know giving people the option of buying a new uh  a a complete new thing , the advantage of a replaceable cover is that even if they don't  it doesn't have a cover on at all , it will still work um totally.


I th I s I think if we're gonna go down that route , then we're talking about uh  even if it costs slightly more than that , um just building the whole thing in one , then having  getting cheaper production costs

um and , you know giving people the option of buying a new uh  a a complete new thing , the advantage of a replaceable cover is that even if they don't  it doesn't have a cover on at all , it will still work um totally.


um and , you know giving people the option of buying a new uh  a a complete new thing , the advantage of a replaceable cover is that even if they don't  it doesn't have a cover on at all , it will still work um totally.


Um then if , you know , if people lose the cover , I mean they they might be well inclined to go out and spend however many Euros on a on a new one um rather than a a complete new re remote.


Um then if , you know , if people lose the cover , I mean they they might be well inclined to go out and spend however many Euros on a on a new one um rather than a a complete new re remote.

Well that that's just it with the covers , you're sort of tricking 'em into continuing to spend their money on our products without making 'em feel like they're being ripped off having to buy a new product.


Well that that's just it with the covers , you're sort of tricking 'em into continuing to spend their money on our products without making 'em feel like they're being ripped off having to buy a new product.

Yeah , I mean it is  it's up to it's up to


Yeah , I mean it is  it's up to it's up to


it's it's up to our marketing people to to ma to ma turn it into a a fashion item.


Um and , you know , as as external fashions change , then we get new new covers on the market and , you know , readily available.


And that's the sort of thing , once you get the mould set , you can just whip out different colours , different pictures very very quickly.


that are just fruits and animal prints and colours.


Um  oh , don't worry it's all said , I was just gonna say uh  yeah , are we gonna make this as part of like like uh  a part of the f like it it  the fashions apply to furniture , so are we gonna make this part of the furniture ?


Um  oh , don't worry it's all said , I was just gonna say uh  yeah , are we gonna make this as part of like like uh  a part of the f like it it  the fashions apply to furniture , so are we gonna make this part of the furniture ?

It's the sort of thing that we want people to have prominent dis displayed on their um coffee table to say this says something about me.


It's the sort of thing that we want people to have prominent dis displayed on their um coffee table to say this says something about me.


I , you know , I'm I'm I'm with it , I'm up to date. And you know , th the the design that I've got , and and it could be a a home-made design , um you know this says this is not just a a television remote control , this is , you know , a fashion accessory. Um , so I mean the the the basic shape i is is what we uh  I mean given that we've got you know one one on off button presumably , two buttons for uh channel change and one slider and basically nothing else ,


I , you know , I'm I'm I'm with it , I'm up to date. And you know , th the the design that I've got , and and it could be a a home-made design , um you know this says this is not just a a television remote control , this is , you know , a fashion accessory. Um , so I mean the the the basic shape i is is what we uh  I mean given that we've got you know one one on off button presumably , two buttons for uh channel change and one slider and basically nothing else ,

um w we need to decide on the  just the basic shape of the thing. And , know whether we go down the fruit and veg route , and I don't suggest we make it look like a banana , but um know sort of the the organic , you know , curved look ,


I , you know , I'm I'm I'm with it , I'm up to date. And you know , th the the design that I've got , and and it could be a a home-made design , um you know this says this is not just a a television remote control , this is , you know , a fashion accessory. Um , so I mean the the the basic shape i is is what we uh  I mean given that we've got you know one one on off button presumably , two buttons for uh channel change and one slider and basically nothing else ,

um w we need to decide on the  just the basic shape of the thing. And , know whether we go down the fruit and veg route , and I don't suggest we make it look like a banana , but um know sort of the the organic , you know , curved look ,

you know , t to deliberately get away from the uh um  uh you know , the the the the square look of most um current uh remotes


um w we need to decide on the  just the basic shape of the thing. And , know whether we go down the fruit and veg route , and I don't suggest we make it look like a banana , but um know sort of the the organic , you know , curved look ,

you know , t to deliberately get away from the uh um  uh you know , the the the the square look of most um current uh remotes


you know , t to deliberately get away from the uh um  uh you know , the the the the square look of most um current uh remotes

and , you know , whether whether the you know , the the fixed part of it is the corporate yellow. Um mm or uh  'cause there's certainly you know , the the corporate logo needs to be prominently uh displayed so that people s th looked at it and say right , that's a Real Reaction remote control , I want one of those.


and , you know , whether whether the you know , the the fixed part of it is the corporate yellow. Um mm or uh  'cause there's certainly you know , the the corporate logo needs to be prominently uh displayed so that people s th looked at it and say right , that's a Real Reaction remote control , I want one of those.

I dunno that we should make the whole thing yellow I kinda thought with a  you'd have like a yellow circle with the R_R_ in it somewhere on it ,


I dunno that we should make the whole thing yellow I kinda thought with a  you'd have like a yellow circle with the R_R_ in it somewhere on it ,


no , but I mean just like white or grey or black or some sort of blah colour.


no , but I mean just like white or grey or black or some sort of blah colour.

I d I I agree , I mean we're we're we're simply  it's simply required to incorporate the the the the corporate logo prominently um.


I d I I agree , I mean we're we're we're simply  it's simply required to incorporate the the the the corporate logo prominently um.


Well , th this is  this is the whole point , yes , you know , I'm  I've got a a Real Reaction uh remote control to go with my Real Reaction coffee maker or or whatever.


Well , th this is  this is the whole point , yes , you know , I'm  I've got a a Real Reaction uh remote control to go with my Real Reaction coffee maker or or whatever.

And uh then people , you know , people demand more Real Reaction stuff.


Well , th this is  this is the whole point , yes , you know , I'm  I've got a a Real Reaction uh remote control to go with my Real Reaction coffee maker or or whatever.

And uh then people , you know , people demand more Real Reaction stuff.

Well I was sort of mm kinda picturing like maybe um  a shape that's almost like a mouse.


And uh then people , you know , people demand more Real Reaction stuff.

Well I was sort of mm kinda picturing like maybe um  a shape that's almost like a mouse.


Well I was sort of mm kinda picturing like maybe um  a shape that's almost like a mouse.


Well I was sort of mm kinda picturing like maybe um  a shape that's almost like a mouse.

So that , you know , when they hold it it's  because a mouse is pretty comfortable to hold in your hand um maybe we could make it a slightly different shape so they could hold on to it , but that way they can have the volume on the side and then the channel buttons and


So that , you know , when they hold it it's  because a mouse is pretty comfortable to hold in your hand um maybe we could make it a slightly different shape so they could hold on to it , but that way they can have the volume on the side and then the channel buttons and


I mean that was just an idea that I had.


I mean that was just an idea that I had.

Oh no that  well there's the sim  my my idea was something a b probably you know a bit fatter than this but sort of tha that sorta shape


I mean that was just an idea that I had.

Oh no that  well there's the sim  my my idea was something a b probably you know a bit fatter than this but sort of tha that sorta shape

so that you can just sort of ho hold it.


Oh no that  well there's the sim  my my idea was something a b probably you know a bit fatter than this but sort of tha that sorta shape

so that you can just sort of ho hold it.

Yeah , you'd want it narrower than a mouse though


so that you can just sort of ho hold it.

Yeah , you'd want it narrower than a mouse though


so that you can just sort of ho hold it.

Yeah , you'd want it narrower than a mouse though

'cause it  a mouse you're kinda just resting on it , you want something you can definitely grip.


Yeah , you'd want it narrower than a mouse though

'cause it  a mouse you're kinda just resting on it , you want something you can definitely grip.

W it  I mean  well it's sort of it's it's sort of uh a a mouse ,


'cause it  a mouse you're kinda just resting on it , you want something you can definitely grip.

W it  I mean  well it's sort of it's it's sort of uh a a mouse ,


W it  I mean  well it's sort of it's it's sort of uh a a mouse ,


but held , you know , so it's  you sorta hold it in your hand like that , i with , you know , and fiddling with the buttons.


but held , you know , so it's  you sorta hold it in your hand like that , i with , you know , and fiddling with the buttons.

Yeah , and fiddle around with it and press it.


Yeah , and fiddle around with it and press it.

Yeah so  yeah , kind of maybe maybe a little wider than this , 'cause this is pretty comfortable to hold , and then if you had


Yeah , and fiddle around with it and press it.

Yeah so  yeah , kind of maybe maybe a little wider than this , 'cause this is pretty comfortable to hold , and then if you had

Maybe almost like a hairbrush , like you could get the  about the width of that end of the pen and then it widens up top


Yeah so  yeah , kind of maybe maybe a little wider than this , 'cause this is pretty comfortable to hold , and then if you had

Maybe almost like a hairbrush , like you could get the  about the width of that end of the pen and then it widens up top


Maybe almost like a hairbrush , like you could get the  about the width of that end of the pen and then it widens up top


And then it would have a l uh wider thing to uh have the light , the infrared light at the T_V_ and just kinda change channels and adjust the volume


And then it would have a l uh wider thing to uh have the light , the infrared light at the T_V_ and just kinda change channels and adjust the volume

and the power could be wherever , up up the top or something.


and the power could be wherever , up up the top or something.


Yeah , that sounds  Um I'm just  I'm suddenly realising that yeah we're discussing how much  how good it's gonna be to change channels t we still can just tell it to. I mean are we are we starting to get away from the the voice functionality of it ?


I think we d I think we decided that w we're actually going down both routes. That um the  we n


I think we d I think we decided that w we're actually going down both routes. That um the  we n

we need the the manual controls and that they should be of that form , but that uh  yeah .


we need the the manual controls and that they should be of that form , but that uh  yeah .


we need the the manual controls and that they should be of that form , but that uh  yeah .

But  do you know , this shape also kind of les lend itself to to voice  'cause if you're you're holding it and you're fiddling , but you can also bring it up like that


we need the the manual controls and that they should be of that form , but that uh  yeah .

But  do you know , this shape also kind of les lend itself to to voice  'cause if you're you're holding it and you're fiddling , but you can also bring it up like that

Then you just bring it up to your mouth and just speak to it ,


But  do you know , this shape also kind of les lend itself to to voice  'cause if you're you're holding it and you're fiddling , but you can also bring it up like that

Then you just bring it up to your mouth and just speak to it ,


Then you just bring it up to your mouth and just speak to it ,


Yeah , maybe we cou like w like we're leaving out the buttons for the the f less frequently used stuff ,


Yeah , maybe we cou like w like we're leaving out the buttons for the the f less frequently used stuff ,

but maybe we could incorporate that into the voice.


Yeah , maybe we cou like w like we're leaving out the buttons for the the f less frequently used stuff ,

but maybe we could incorporate that into the voice.

I th I th honest uh  my personal view is that if it's not there , people wouldn't use it anyway um.


but maybe we could incorporate that into the voice.

I th I th honest uh  my personal view is that if it's not there , people wouldn't use it anyway um.

Mm I suppose , but t there is the off chance that , you know , th the brightness is wrong on your T_V_ or the contrast needs changing.


but maybe we could incorporate that into the voice.

I th I th honest uh  my personal view is that if it's not there , people wouldn't use it anyway um.

Mm I suppose , but t there is the off chance that , you know , th the brightness is wrong on your T_V_ or the contrast needs changing.

It's cer it's certainly possible I mean , but they  we we're going beyond w w


I th I th honest uh  my personal view is that if it's not there , people wouldn't use it anyway um.

Mm I suppose , but t there is the off chance that , you know , th the brightness is wrong on your T_V_ or the contrast needs changing.

It's cer it's certainly possible I mean , but they  we we're going beyond w w


Mm I suppose , but t there is the off chance that , you know , th the brightness is wrong on your T_V_ or the contrast needs changing.

It's cer it's certainly possible I mean , but they  we we're going beyond w w

given the state of the technology  we want something that we kno we know will will work um.


It's cer it's certainly possible I mean , but they  we we're going beyond w w

given the state of the technology  we want something that we kno we know will will work um.


given the state of the technology  we want something that we kno we know will will work um.

Well you can still i incorporate the voice with with less buttons. I mean  uh if the power button was also somehow like a menu button you could press that and  or do voice commands , and  either volume thing could also be to scroll through other options like y and you could scroll through brightness


Well you can still i incorporate the voice with with less buttons. I mean  uh if the power button was also somehow like a menu button you could press that and  or do voice commands , and  either volume thing could also be to scroll through other options like y and you could scroll through brightness


and then you can you can minimise the buttons


and then you can you can minimise the buttons

and still have those , you know , brightness and tint and stuff.


and still have those , you know , brightness and tint and stuff.


and still have those , you know , brightness and tint and stuff.

If we we're  I mean  I'm getting a clear message that we think that we should have those facilities available.


If we we're  I mean  I'm getting a clear message that we think that we should have those facilities available.

So I guess we could have a menu button as well.


If we we're  I mean  I'm getting a clear message that we think that we should have those facilities available.

So I guess we could have a menu button as well.

We could have the channels and the power and then a menu button and then the volume.


So I guess we could have a menu button as well.

We could have the channels and the power and then a menu button and then the volume.


We could have the channels and the power and then a menu button and then the volume.

So have four buttons and the volume instead of three buttons and the volume.


So have four buttons and the volume instead of three buttons and the volume.

Okay , if we if we're going down that route , then we need some sort of display. Do we need some sort of display ?


Okay , if we if we're going down that route , then we need some sort of display. Do we need some sort of display ?

We actually use the television , okay. Okay , okay , okay.


We actually use the television , okay. Okay , okay , okay.

that  things like that usually c pop up on a televi like you hit menu


that  things like that usually c pop up on a televi like you hit menu

and menu will come up on television and have like tint brightness , and you'd use the scroll , scroll through it yeah.


and menu will come up on television and have like tint brightness , and you'd use the scroll , scroll through it yeah.


and menu will come up on television and have like tint brightness , and you'd use the scroll , scroll through it yeah.

on a  onto like a mouse , the ru the scrolling button , is actually a button as well , you could press it , you could press that and have it as a menu button.


on a  onto like a mouse , the ru the scrolling button , is actually a button as well , you could press it , you could press that and have it as a menu button.


on a  onto like a mouse , the ru the scrolling button , is actually a button as well , you could press it , you could press that and have it as a menu button.

I never understood how that worked though ,


I never understood how that worked though ,


I never understood how that worked though ,

Yeah , it's like um  yeah , it's like the mouse where you just kinda click it. You just press it.


Yeah , it's like um  yeah , it's like the mouse where you just kinda click it. You just press it.


Yeah , it's like um  yeah , it's like the mouse where you just kinda click it. You just press it.

Yeah , and you could just click that to  so if you had like the menu then you could scroll through and then click it to select.


Yeah , and you could just click that to  so if you had like the menu then you could scroll through and then click it to select.


Mm yeah. Okay , we got five minutes to go in this meeting ,


Mm yeah. Okay , we got five minutes to go in this meeting ,

so um I d I think we've actually very conveniently just uh come to uh a good point to s to sum up um.


so um I d I think we've actually very conveniently just uh come to uh a good point to s to sum up um.

So um b b Kate and Kendra now go away and uh pa play play with a bit of Plasticine or play-dough ,


So um b b Kate and Kendra now go away and uh pa play play with a bit of Plasticine or play-dough ,

whatever it is on the other side of the Atlantic.


So um b b Kate and Kendra now go away and uh pa play play with a bit of Plasticine or play-dough ,

whatever it is on the other side of the Atlantic.

Um and actually put what we've discussed into something uh  I was gonna say concrete ,


whatever it is on the other side of the Atlantic.

Um and actually put what we've discussed into something uh  I was gonna say concrete ,


whatever it is on the other side of the Atlantic.

Um and actually put what we've discussed into something uh  I was gonna say concrete ,

but that's a slightly inappropriate word


Um and actually put what we've discussed into something uh  I was gonna say concrete ,

but that's a slightly inappropriate word

um to something that we can we can see and um Andrew n can go away and th th think about how we can uh actually market this as a concept and not j not just a uh um a a simple remote control.


but that's a slightly inappropriate word

um to something that we can we can see and um Andrew n can go away and th th think about how we can uh actually market this as a concept and not j not just a uh um a a simple remote control.

Uh can I just get some things clear just for  my sake.


um to something that we can we can see and um Andrew n can go away and th th think about how we can uh actually market this as a concept and not j not just a uh um a a simple remote control.

Uh can I just get some things clear just for  my sake.


Uh can I just get some things clear just for  my sake.

I think I think we decided that we're gonna  for


I think I think we decided that we're gonna  for


I think I think we decided that we're gonna  for

for simplicity of , you know , manufacturing and uh maintenance that we will go for a a long term battery source um ,


for simplicity of , you know , manufacturing and uh maintenance that we will go for a a long term battery source um ,


for simplicity of , you know , manufacturing and uh maintenance that we will go for a a long term battery source um ,

I  you know , on the basis that um that , you know , if we're going for making it a fashion statement , then uh people are more likely to change it anyway uh before i it runs out and um  make an assumption that we we can aim for a battery that will last most people for uh we'll say at least five five ten years


I  you know , on the basis that um that , you know , if we're going for making it a fashion statement , then uh people are more likely to change it anyway uh before i it runs out and um  make an assumption that we we can aim for a battery that will last most people for uh we'll say at least five five ten years


I  you know , on the basis that um that , you know , if we're going for making it a fashion statement , then uh people are more likely to change it anyway uh before i it runs out and um  make an assumption that we we can aim for a battery that will last most people for uh we'll say at least five five ten years

and that we'll w we will guarantee it for for five years um.


and that we'll w we will guarantee it for for five years um.

We're having a a custom chip , but given the the  we've cut the functions down , um that will hopefully not be too problematic , but given that um technol technological innovation is important ,


and that we'll w we will guarantee it for for five years um.

We're having a a custom chip , but given the the  we've cut the functions down , um that will hopefully not be too problematic , but given that um technol technological innovation is important ,

then we need to , I'll say it again , technologically innovate.


We're having a a custom chip , but given the the  we've cut the functions down , um that will hopefully not be too problematic , but given that um technol technological innovation is important ,

then we need to , I'll say it again , technologically innovate.

Um and uh we we , know , we must resist any efforts to uh to try and water that down um.


then we need to , I'll say it again , technologically innovate.

Um and uh we we , know , we must resist any efforts to uh to try and water that down um.

I i interchangeable case seems to be um  um important to the concept.


Um and uh we we , know , we must resist any efforts to uh to try and water that down um.

I i interchangeable case seems to be um  um important to the concept.


I i interchangeable case seems to be um  um important to the concept.

Um it it should be cheap , you know , if if we avoid any , you know , electrical connections.


Um it it should be cheap , you know , if if we avoid any , you know , electrical connections.


Um it it should be cheap , you know , if if we avoid any , you know , electrical connections.

And uh i you know , i if we can come up with some way of of allowing people to actually personalise it uh to whatever they want , then uh  I mean uh uh this is totally new.


And uh i you know , i if we can come up with some way of of allowing people to actually personalise it uh to whatever they want , then uh  I mean uh uh this is totally new.


And uh i you know , i if we can come up with some way of of allowing people to actually personalise it uh to whatever they want , then uh  I mean uh uh this is totally new.

We d we don't know whether that  to what extent people do it or not , but if they've at least got a a good selection of um covers that they can use anyway , and uh and if if we can keep them , you know , rolling , then uh  you know , so they can get them in the supermarket when they go down to um a any of the famous supermarkets , I won't mention any mention any names ,


And uh i you know , i if we can come up with some way of of allowing people to actually personalise it uh to whatever they want , then uh  I mean uh uh this is totally new.

We d we don't know whether that  to what extent people do it or not , but if they've at least got a a good selection of um covers that they can use anyway , and uh and if if we can keep them , you know , rolling , then uh  you know , so they can get them in the supermarket when they go down to um a any of the famous supermarkets , I won't mention any mention any names ,

um it's uh it's good for the supermarket


We d we don't know whether that  to what extent people do it or not , but if they've at least got a a good selection of um covers that they can use anyway , and uh and if if we can keep them , you know , rolling , then uh  you know , so they can get them in the supermarket when they go down to um a any of the famous supermarkets , I won't mention any mention any names ,

um it's uh it's good for the supermarket

and it's good for us and it hopefully makes them feel better.


We d we don't know whether that  to what extent people do it or not , but if they've at least got a a good selection of um covers that they can use anyway , and uh and if if we can keep them , you know , rolling , then uh  you know , so they can get them in the supermarket when they go down to um a any of the famous supermarkets , I won't mention any mention any names ,

um it's uh it's good for the supermarket

and it's good for us and it hopefully makes them feel better.

And uh are we gonna have it il being illuminated from inside onto the buttons or


um it's uh it's good for the supermarket

and it's good for us and it hopefully makes them feel better.

And uh are we gonna have it il being illuminated from inside onto the buttons or

Um the  that  I mean that's  no , because we've got so few buttons that it  that actually makes that redundant.


and it's good for us and it hopefully makes them feel better.

And uh are we gonna have it il being illuminated from inside onto the buttons or

Um the  that  I mean that's  no , because we've got so few buttons that it  that actually makes that redundant.


And uh are we gonna have it il being illuminated from inside onto the buttons or

Um the  that  I mean that's  no , because we've got so few buttons that it  that actually makes that redundant.


Um the  that  I mean that's  no , because we've got so few buttons that it  that actually makes that redundant.


Yeah , and especially for making them so like different and


you know , that that solves one of the problems of b of battery life , 'cause that would  well that would clobber the battery life ,


you know , that that solves one of the problems of b of battery life , 'cause that would  well that would clobber the battery life ,

so no , I mean given the nature of the buttons we're having , it's actually uh uh unnecessary I think.


so no , I mean given the nature of the buttons we're having , it's actually uh uh unnecessary I think.


Are we having it that it's any angle , or is it just


Are we having it that it's any angle , or is it just

cer certainly wider angle than than current ,


cer certainly wider angle than than current ,


cer certainly wider angle than than current ,

so that if you're holding it , you know , anyway like you're likely to and uh it's uh  you know , i i it will work most of the time um.


so that if you're holding it , you know , anyway like you're likely to and uh it's uh  you know , i i it will work most of the time um.


so that if you're holding it , you know , anyway like you're likely to and uh it's uh  you know , i i it will work most of the time um.

Not like my my mum who points it at the ceiling and wonders why the th th the television doesn't work.


Not like my my mum who points it at the ceiling and wonders why the th th the television doesn't work.

Um yeah , I mean I d I th I sorta envisaged that if if this was the the thing , then sort of the the whole of the top would be the uh the infrared uh.


Um yeah , I mean I d I th I sorta envisaged that if if this was the the thing , then sort of the the whole of the top would be the uh the infrared uh.


So you could use like this and it would go .


So you could use like this and it would go .

Yeah , 'cause I mean the r reality is people are   they're gonna be looking at the television whilst they're using it , the chances are , so if if they're holding it anyway , the they're reasonably likely to be holding it to use it ,


Yeah , 'cause I mean the r reality is people are   they're gonna be looking at the television whilst they're using it , the chances are , so if if they're holding it anyway , the they're reasonably likely to be holding it to use it ,

then uh then that that's the sort of coverage that we want.


then uh then that that's the sort of coverage that we want.

Um okay , d we're all clear where we go from here.


Um okay , d we're all clear where we go from here.


Okay , so thank you very much indeed and I'll s see you all again in thirty minutes.


I feel like Madonna with one of these on. I said I feel like Madonna with one of these on.

I've always wanted one of these , I really have.  Where do you buy 'em from ?  They're .


I've always wanted one of these , I really have.  Where do you buy 'em from ?  They're .

Back again for another wonderful meeting.


Back again for another wonderful meeting.


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Okay , we c we can hold on for a minute.

I figured with the spam thing , if you can't beat it , join in.


Okay , we c we can hold on for a minute.

I figured with the spam thing , if you can't beat it , join in.

That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive.


I figured with the spam thing , if you can't beat it , join in.

That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive.


I figured with the spam thing , if you can't beat it , join in.

That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive.

Are you ready ? Okay , right , well , I take it that you are all ready now.


That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive.

Are you ready ? Okay , right , well , I take it that you are all ready now.

Um alright first off we'll just uh recap from our last meeting. Um  which was we got together just to basically decide on  well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed to be doing ,


Are you ready ? Okay , right , well , I take it that you are all ready now.

Um alright first off we'll just uh recap from our last meeting. Um  which was we got together just to basically decide on  well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed to be doing ,

and who we all are and stuff like that , mm get bit more of an idea together of what's going on.  Um what we are gonna talk about in this meeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing , now we know that it's a T_V_ remote and stuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that , that's research and development for those that haven't heard that before ,


Um alright first off we'll just uh recap from our last meeting. Um  which was we got together just to basically decide on  well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed to be doing ,

and who we all are and stuff like that , mm get bit more of an idea together of what's going on.  Um what we are gonna talk about in this meeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing , now we know that it's a T_V_ remote and stuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that , that's research and development for those that haven't heard that before ,

see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today. Um yeah , we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations ,


and who we all are and stuff like that , mm get bit more of an idea together of what's going on.  Um what we are gonna talk about in this meeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing , now we know that it's a T_V_ remote and stuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that , that's research and development for those that haven't heard that before ,

see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today. Um yeah , we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations ,

whether they be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want.


see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today. Um yeah , we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations ,

whether they be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want.

Hmm.  Do you have any preference uh of order ?


whether they be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want.

Hmm.  Do you have any preference uh of order ?

o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want  what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what sort of energy we're gonna be using and


Hmm.  Do you have any preference uh of order ?

o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want  what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what sort of energy we're gonna be using and


o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want  what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what sort of energy we're gonna be using and


o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want  what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what sort of energy we're gonna be using and

No no no no , it's fine I'm just preparing.


No no no no , it's fine I'm just preparing.

It's just that  yeah , let's let's hear from you first.


It's just that  yeah , let's let's hear from you first.


Um so um for the energy sources we can have a basic battery , a hand dynamo which is  which was used uh in the fifties for torches , if you remember that kind of  which wouldn't be v wouldn't be v v


Um so um for the energy sources we can have a basic battery , a hand dynamo which is  which was used uh in the fifties for torches , if you remember that kind of  which wouldn't be v wouldn't be v v

I don't think any of us remember the fifties.


I don't think any of us remember the fifties.

You can have a kinetic provision of energy , which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that  it will give it the energy to work.


You can have a kinetic provision of energy , which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that  it will give it the energy to work.


You can have a kinetic provision of energy , which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that  it will give it the energy to work.

Or you can use solar cells , but I'm not sure about that indoors , really , but


You can have a kinetic provision of energy , which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that  it will give it the energy to work.

Or you can use solar cells , but I'm not sure about that indoors , really , but

Well , there's sometimes combinations , I mean , like calculators do combinations of battery with  but also using some solar power.


Or you can use solar cells , but I'm not sure about that indoors , really , but

Well , there's sometimes combinations , I mean , like calculators do combinations of battery with  but also using some solar power.


Or you can use solar cells , but I'm not sure about that indoors , really , but

Well , there's sometimes combinations , I mean , like calculators do combinations of battery with  but also using some solar power.

Do  sol solar panel things , do they have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb ?


Well , there's sometimes combinations , I mean , like calculators do combinations of battery with  but also using some solar power.

Do  sol solar panel things , do they have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb ?


Do  sol solar panel things , do they have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb ?


Uh I think , it has to be on the on the solar energy , but I don't know.


Uh I think , it has to be on the on the solar energy , but I don't know.

I dunno. Um. Think the the uh what would cost the less would be the basic battery , really.


Uh I think , it has to be on the on the solar energy , but I don't know.

I dunno. Um. Think the the uh what would cost the less would be the basic battery , really.

And uh if we want something fancier , I think the kinetic provision of energy could be nice ,


I dunno. Um. Think the the uh what would cost the less would be the basic battery , really.

And uh if we want something fancier , I think the kinetic provision of energy could be nice ,


And uh if we want something fancier , I think the kinetic provision of energy could be nice ,

but I don't know if it's worth the cost. So we've got to discuss that.


but I don't know if it's worth the cost. So we've got to discuss that.

For the case of the remotes itself , um they can be a general case , which is just a flat one. You can have uh a curved one or a double curved one , if you know what I mean , so


For the case of the remotes itself , um they can be a general case , which is just a flat one. You can have uh a curved one or a double curved one , if you know what I mean , so

You know , kind of more ergonomic , that kind of suits the palm of your hand , that kind of thing.


You know , kind of more ergonomic , that kind of suits the palm of your hand , that kind of thing.

So   Um then the case material itself , so it can be uh uh either plastic or latex , uh rubber , wood , or titanium. And th for each of them you have uh cases where  for example titanium , you can't use it for  if you if we're choosing a double curved case , we can't choose titanium. And if we are choosing um solar cells then we can't choose latex for the case material , so we just have to take that into account. But if we're choosing just the flat case then we can go for anything. And I think we discussed earlier on the R_ S_ I_ problem thing , so we could uh


You know , kind of more ergonomic , that kind of suits the palm of your hand , that kind of thing.

So   Um then the case material itself , so it can be uh uh either plastic or latex , uh rubber , wood , or titanium. And th for each of them you have uh cases where  for example titanium , you can't use it for  if you if we're choosing a double curved case , we can't choose titanium. And if we are choosing um solar cells then we can't choose latex for the case material , so we just have to take that into account. But if we're choosing just the flat case then we can go for anything. And I think we discussed earlier on the R_ S_ I_ problem thing , so we could uh

So that might be an idea of using the rubber ,


So   Um then the case material itself , so it can be uh uh either plastic or latex , uh rubber , wood , or titanium. And th for each of them you have uh cases where  for example titanium , you can't use it for  if you if we're choosing a double curved case , we can't choose titanium. And if we are choosing um solar cells then we can't choose latex for the case material , so we just have to take that into account. But if we're choosing just the flat case then we can go for anything. And I think we discussed earlier on the R_ S_ I_ problem thing , so we could uh

So that might be an idea of using the rubber ,


So that might be an idea of using the rubber ,


Yeah. And also it doesn't break as easily maybe ,


Yeah. And also it doesn't break as easily maybe ,

watching the match and  your team's just lost , you can fuzz it across the room and it'll bounce off the wall back at you.


watching the match and  your team's just lost , you can fuzz it across the room and it'll bounce off the wall back at you.


Rubber , we're all we're all going  we're all liking that idea ? You think you can market that ?


Rubber , we're all we're all going  we're all liking that idea ? You think you can market that ?

But after my after my fashion thing , I think you'll realise that rubber is more


But after my after my fashion thing , I think you'll realise that rubber is more


okay. And then there are the push-buttons , so you can have basic push-buttons or a scroll-wheels , like you have on a mouse , um or you could have um L_C_D_ , which gives you a display. Um scroll buttons , as well.


okay. And then there are the push-buttons , so you can have basic push-buttons or a scroll-wheels , like you have on a mouse , um or you could have um L_C_D_ , which gives you a display. Um scroll buttons , as well.

So if you use a rubber double curved case , you must use rubber push-buttons. So if we're going for rubber then we have to decide for the case. Um and if we choose double curved then we have to go for rubber push-buttons.


okay. And then there are the push-buttons , so you can have basic push-buttons or a scroll-wheels , like you have on a mouse , um or you could have um L_C_D_ , which gives you a display. Um scroll buttons , as well.

So if you use a rubber double curved case , you must use rubber push-buttons. So if we're going for rubber then we have to decide for the case. Um and if we choose double curved then we have to go for rubber push-buttons.

Well , we're gonna go with  I think we've decided that it's gonna be a rubber case so


So if you use a rubber double curved case , you must use rubber push-buttons. So if we're going for rubber then we have to decide for the case. Um and if we choose double curved then we have to go for rubber push-buttons.

Well , we're gonna go with  I think we've decided that it's gonna be a rubber case so

So it's a constraint. Yeah , but is it a double curved one or not ?  If it's not a double curved , then we've got the choice for the push-buttons , if it's a double curve , we've gotta go for rubber push-buttons. If that makes sense.


Well , we're gonna go with  I think we've decided that it's gonna be a rubber case so

So it's a constraint. Yeah , but is it a double curved one or not ?  If it's not a double curved , then we've got the choice for the push-buttons , if it's a double curve , we've gotta go for rubber push-buttons. If that makes sense.


So it's a constraint. Yeah , but is it a double curved one or not ?  If it's not a double curved , then we've got the choice for the push-buttons , if it's a double curve , we've gotta go for rubber push-buttons. If that makes sense.

If it's rubber , isn't it malleable anyway ,  it doesn't matter if it's double  I mean isn't a rubber case , mean it's completely flexed , I mean , it it flexes to whatever they want it to ? Mean so what's the difference between a normal rubber case and a rubble doub double  rubber double curved case ?


If it's rubber , isn't it malleable anyway ,  it doesn't matter if it's double  I mean isn't a rubber case , mean it's completely flexed , I mean , it it flexes to whatever they want it to ? Mean so what's the difference between a normal rubber case and a rubble doub double  rubber double curved case ?


If it's rubber , isn't it malleable anyway ,  it doesn't matter if it's double  I mean isn't a rubber case , mean it's completely flexed , I mean , it it flexes to whatever they want it to ? Mean so what's the difference between a normal rubber case and a rubble doub double  rubber double curved case ?

No , but na le you see , you've got , okay , the energy that's one thing ,


No , but na le you see , you've got , okay , the energy that's one thing ,

then you have the case is uh , whether it's flat or curved. And that's   we don't care if it's rub rubber or not , but then we've decided that we going for rubber for the case material. So if we've chosen rub rubber and if now we have the choice for the case whether it's flat , single curved or double curved. And I'm just saying if it  if we choose it to be double curved then we need to go  I dunno why , but we need to go for uh rubber push-buttons. So , either


then you have the case is uh , whether it's flat or curved. And that's   we don't care if it's rub rubber or not , but then we've decided that we going for rubber for the case material. So if we've chosen rub rubber and if now we have the choice for the case whether it's flat , single curved or double curved. And I'm just saying if it  if we choose it to be double curved then we need to go  I dunno why , but we need to go for uh rubber push-buttons. So , either

I dunno we just need to decide on the on the case.


I dunno we just need to decide on the on the case.

Okay. Go rubber. Go rubber the whole way.


I dunno we just need to decide on the on the case.

Okay. Go rubber. Go rubber the whole way.

Let's go crazy.  And then , do I have a last slide ? Yes , I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be  so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons.


Okay. Go rubber. Go rubber the whole way.

Let's go crazy.  And then , do I have a last slide ? Yes , I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be  so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons.


Okay. Go rubber. Go rubber the whole way.

Let's go crazy.  And then , do I have a last slide ? Yes , I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be  so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons.

Um and the price that go with it with it , so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel , that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_ , the display thing , then that's even more expensive.


Let's go crazy.  And then , do I have a last slide ? Yes , I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be  so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons.

Um and the price that go with it with it , so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel , that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_ , the display thing , then that's even more expensive.

Simple , yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit .  Okay , uh what I'm not understanding here


Um and the price that go with it with it , so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel , that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_ , the display thing , then that's even more expensive.

Simple , yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit .  Okay , uh what I'm not understanding here


Um and the price that go with it with it , so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel , that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_ , the display thing , then that's even more expensive.

Simple , yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit .  Okay , uh what I'm not understanding here

is uh , okay , advanced chip on print , which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board including the um infra-red sender ?


Simple , yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit .  Okay , uh what I'm not understanding here

is uh , okay , advanced chip on print , which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board including the um infra-red sender ?


is uh , okay , advanced chip on print , which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board including the um infra-red sender ?


is uh , okay , advanced chip on print , which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board including the um infra-red sender ?

Right. Um what a what alternatives do we have to that ?  Y um  what alternatives do we have to the chip on print ?


Right. Um what a what alternatives do we have to that ?  Y um  what alternatives do we have to the chip on print ?

Well , if if it's not chip on print then , I guess , you get different chip components , and you build them separately and doesn't include the infra-red. It's less expensive mm


Right. Um what a what alternatives do we have to that ?  Y um  what alternatives do we have to the chip on print ?

Well , if if it's not chip on print then , I guess , you get different chip components , and you build them separately and doesn't include the infra-red. It's less expensive mm

Technically speaking , it's not as advanced , but it does the job , too.


Well , if if it's not chip on print then , I guess , you get different chip components , and you build them separately and doesn't include the infra-red. It's less expensive mm

Technically speaking , it's not as advanced , but it does the job , too.

So , why would we not go for that ? If it's something that's inside the the unit.  I it doesn't affects whether the customer's gonna buy it or not.


Technically speaking , it's not as advanced , but it does the job , too.

So , why would we not go for that ? If it's something that's inside the the unit.  I it doesn't affects whether the customer's gonna buy it or not.

Fo It doesn't , yeah , yeah , yeah. Totally. Yeah.


So , why would we not go for that ? If it's something that's inside the the unit.  I it doesn't affects whether the customer's gonna buy it or not.

Fo It doesn't , yeah , yeah , yeah. Totally. Yeah.


Fo It doesn't , yeah , yeah , yeah. Totally. Yeah.


you know. So let's not let's uh not bother with the chip on print.


you know. So let's not let's uh not bother with the chip on print.

So it's either um the scroll-wheel or the push-buttons.


you know. So let's not let's uh not bother with the chip on print.

So it's either um the scroll-wheel or the push-buttons.

What about the just developed uh sample sensor ?


So it's either um the scroll-wheel or the push-buttons.

What about the just developed uh sample sensor ?


What about the just developed uh sample sensor ?


What about the just developed uh sample sensor ?

G there , the sample sensor , sample speaker thing.


G there , the sample sensor , sample speaker thing.


G there , the sample sensor , sample speaker thing.

Well , what do we need a speaker for in a remote control unit ?


Well , what do we need a speaker for in a remote control unit ?

It'd be it'd be cool , but they are saying they've just developed it ,


It'd be it'd be cool , but they are saying they've just developed it ,


It'd be it'd be cool , but they are saying they've just developed it ,

I'm just guessing. But it's gonna be the most expensive option , probably and


I'm just guessing. But it's gonna be the most expensive option , probably and

Th the the  speech recognition um option is  it doesn't seem really very promising for us uh ,


I'm just guessing. But it's gonna be the most expensive option , probably and

Th the the  speech recognition um option is  it doesn't seem really very promising for us uh ,

Yeah. It's not something that we wanna t go into with this product.


I'm just guessing. But it's gonna be the most expensive option , probably and

Th the the  speech recognition um option is  it doesn't seem really very promising for us uh ,

Yeah. It's not something that we wanna t go into with this product.

'cause uh  The yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine , where , basically , you can program a sample wi um  That when you say something it will give a response , and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say , good morning , to it it says , hello Rick , or whatever.


Th the the  speech recognition um option is  it doesn't seem really very promising for us uh ,

Yeah. It's not something that we wanna t go into with this product.

'cause uh  The yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine , where , basically , you can program a sample wi um  That when you say something it will give a response , and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say , good morning , to it it says , hello Rick , or whatever.


Yeah. It's not something that we wanna t go into with this product.

'cause uh  The yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine , where , basically , you can program a sample wi um  That when you say something it will give a response , and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say , good morning , to it it says , hello Rick , or whatever.


'cause uh  The yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine , where , basically , you can program a sample wi um  That when you say something it will give a response , and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say , good morning , to it it says , hello Rick , or whatever.


it would be one thing if it was speech recognition where you say something and it turns the T_V_ on like , turn the T_V_ on , and i turns  comes on , but it's not that. It just gives you a it just gives you a verbal response.


it would be one thing if it was speech recognition where you say something and it turns the T_V_ on like , turn the T_V_ on , and i turns  comes on , but it's not that. It just gives you a it just gives you a verbal response.

So , yeah , I mean , like what's the point of saying , Hello remote , I mean , hello , how how are you ?


So , yeah , I mean , like what's the point of saying , Hello remote , I mean , hello , how how are you ?


I thought I thought it was  when they said


I thought I thought it was  when they said

Yeah , if you're really lonely , it is it's


I thought I thought it was  when they said

Yeah , if you're really lonely , it is it's

I thought when they said , voice recognition , they meant um like ,


Yeah , if you're really lonely , it is it's

I thought when they said , voice recognition , they meant um like ,


I thought when they said , voice recognition , they meant um like ,

No , tha that w that w that would be more promising.


No , tha that w that w that would be more promising.

Like you talk to it. Can I have channel five ?


No , tha that w that w that would be more promising.

Like you talk to it. Can I have channel five ?

It it's just a remote that talks to you.


Like you talk to it. Can I have channel five ?

It it's just a remote that talks to you.


It it's just a remote that talks to you.


It it's just a remote that talks to you.

Oh , then  forget about it. Oh right okay.


Oh , then  forget about it. Oh right okay.


Oh , then  forget about it. Oh right okay.

Okay , so I'll go back , maybe , to the previous slide and we can decide for each problem , what we should choose. So for the energy source , do we go for the battery or the


Oh , then  forget about it. Oh right okay.

Okay , so I'll go back , maybe , to the previous slide and we can decide for each problem , what we should choose. So for the energy source , do we go for the battery or the

'Kay. Yeah , I'm fine with the basic battery.


Okay , so I'll go back , maybe , to the previous slide and we can decide for each problem , what we should choose. So for the energy source , do we go for the battery or the

'Kay. Yeah , I'm fine with the basic battery.


'Kay. Yeah , I'm fine with the basic battery.

It's cheap , it's cheerful , it's worked , does work.


It's cheap , it's cheerful , it's worked , does work.


It's cheap , it's cheerful , it's worked , does work.

Cheaper option. Are you happy with that ?


Cheaper option. Are you happy with that ?

Okay. So we'll go for the battery. Then the case , do you want it flat or curved or sing or double curved ?


Cheaper option. Are you happy with that ?

Okay. So we'll go for the battery. Then the case , do you want it flat or curved or sing or double curved ?

We were go we were going with the late with the the R_S_I_ rubber , weren't we ?


Okay. So we'll go for the battery. Then the case , do you want it flat or curved or sing or double curved ?

We were go we were going with the late with the the R_S_I_ rubber , weren't we ?

Yeah , so we want it rub rubber double curved.


We were go we were going with the late with the the R_S_I_ rubber , weren't we ?

Yeah , so we want it rub rubber double curved.

So it will look like something like this.


Yeah , so we want it rub rubber double curved.

So it will look like something like this.


So it will look like something like this.


So it will look like something like this.

Okay , so then if we use double curved case , then we have to u choose rubber push-buttons ,


Okay , so then if we use double curved case , then we have to u choose rubber push-buttons ,

Yep , but  we're going for the simple buttons.


Yep , but  we're going for the simple buttons.


And it's cheapest all round , it sounds kinda funky , and we can also market it


And it's cheapest all round , it sounds kinda funky , and we can also market it

as i 'cause we were s saying earl you were saying earlier in your research that um the the people have the R_  people were getting the  complaining about R_S_I_ , and this is anti-R_S_I_.


as i 'cause we were s saying earl you were saying earlier in your research that um the the people have the R_  people were getting the  complaining about R_S_I_ , and this is anti-R_S_I_.


as i 'cause we were s saying earl you were saying earlier in your research that um the the people have the R_  people were getting the  complaining about R_S_I_ , and this is anti-R_S_I_.

So that's another marketing point that we can use.


So that's another marketing point that we can use.

Well the rubber push-buttons . Don't you have to move your


Well the rubber push-buttons . Don't you have to move your

Even if it's a jog wheel , it's still repetitive. You


Even if it's a jog wheel , it's still repetitive. You

I thought they would give an option of flat buttons or a


Even if it's a jog wheel , it's still repetitive. You

I thought they would give an option of flat buttons or a

You see , you can still get  it does you still get repetitive strain injury , whether you are pressing a button or pressing a flat bit of screen.


I thought they would give an option of flat buttons or a

You see , you can still get  it does you still get repetitive strain injury , whether you are pressing a button or pressing a flat bit of screen.

It's the v it's the fact that you are pressing the same  doing the same movement.


You see , you can still get  it does you still get repetitive strain injury , whether you are pressing a button or pressing a flat bit of screen.

It's the v it's the fact that you are pressing the same  doing the same movement.


It's the v it's the fact that you are pressing the same  doing the same movement.


It's the v it's the fact that you are pressing the same  doing the same movement.

But the fact that this this rubber i is actually used in these anti-R_S_I_ ps specific


But the fact that this this rubber i is actually used in these anti-R_S_I_ ps specific


We're giving them a way to burn off steam , basically , yeah.


We're giving them a way to burn off steam , basically , yeah.

Yeah , so they can sit there and go like


We're giving them a way to burn off steam , basically , yeah.

Yeah , so they can sit there and go like

Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful.


Yeah , so they can sit there and go like

Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful.

And you know , yeah , you can fuzz it across the room and throw it at throw it at your children  yeah.


Yeah , so they can sit there and go like

Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful.

And you know , yeah , you can fuzz it across the room and throw it at throw it at your children  yeah.

Oh yeah , I guess T_V_ can be stressful , yeah , if you're watching sports.


Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful.

And you know , yeah , you can fuzz it across the room and throw it at throw it at your children  yeah.

Oh yeah , I guess T_V_ can be stressful , yeah , if you're watching sports.


And you know , yeah , you can fuzz it across the room and throw it at throw it at your children  yeah.

Oh yeah , I guess T_V_ can be stressful , yeah , if you're watching sports.

Okay , Gabriel. Let's um let's let's hear from you about the um it's  the interface.