and from the construction also you know that it is a location  is  or a thing  thing that can be located. Right ? Ontology says this thing has a location slot. Sh - and that 's the thing that is being  that is the content of the question that 's being queried by one interpretation of " where is X ". And another one is , um , path from current  user current location to  that location.

So. So is the question  I mean it 's just that I 'm not sure what the  Is the question , for this particular construction how we specify that that 's the information it provides ? Or  or asked for ? b Both sides , right ?

Yeah , you don't need to even do that. It 's just sort of what  what would be @ @  observed in uh  in that case.


So. So is the question  I mean it 's just that I 'm not sure what the  Is the question , for this particular construction how we specify that that 's the information it provides ? Or  or asked for ? b Both sides , right ?

Yeah , you don't need to even do that. It 's just sort of what  what would be @ @  observed in uh  in that case.

Observed when you heard the speaker say " where is X " , or when  when that 's been parsed ?


Yeah , you don't need to even do that. It 's just sort of what  what would be @ @  observed in uh  in that case.

Observed when you heard the speaker say " where is X " , or when  when that 's been parsed ?

So these little circles you have by the D ? Is that  ? OK. OK.


Observed when you heard the speaker say " where is X " , or when  when that 's been parsed ?

So these little circles you have by the D ? Is that  ? OK. OK.

That 's exactly what we 're looking for.


So these little circles you have by the D ? Is that  ? OK. OK.

That 's exactly what we 're looking for.

I d I just  I don't like having  characterizing the constructions with location and path , or li characterizing them like that. Cuz you don't  It seems like in the general case you wouldn't know how  how to characterize them.


That 's exactly what we 're looking for.

I d I just  I don't like having  characterizing the constructions with location and path , or li characterizing them like that. Cuz you don't  It seems like in the general case you wouldn't know how  how to characterize them.

I mean  or , for when. There could be an interpretation that we don't have a node for in the  I mean it just seems like @ @ has to have uh  a node for the construction and then let the chips fall where they may. Versus uh , saying , this construction either can mean location or path. And , in this cas and since  since it can mean either of those things , it would light both of those up.


I d I just  I don't like having  characterizing the constructions with location and path , or li characterizing them like that. Cuz you don't  It seems like in the general case you wouldn't know how  how to characterize them.

I mean  or , for when. There could be an interpretation that we don't have a node for in the  I mean it just seems like @ @ has to have uh  a node for the construction and then let the chips fall where they may. Versus uh , saying , this construction either can mean location or path. And , in this cas and since  since it can mean either of those things , it would light both of those up.


I mean  or , for when. There could be an interpretation that we don't have a node for in the  I mean it just seems like @ @ has to have uh  a node for the construction and then let the chips fall where they may. Versus uh , saying , this construction either can mean location or path. And , in this cas and since  since it can mean either of those things , it would light both of those up.


So I think r in here we have " I 'll go there " , right ?


So I think r in here we have " I 'll go there " , right ?

And we have our Info - on. So in my c my case , this would sort of make this  happy , and this would make the Go - there happy. What you 're saying is we have a Where - X question , Where - X node , that makes both happy. Right ? That 's what you 're proposing , which is , in my mind just as fine. So w if we have a construction  node , " where is X " , it 's gonna both get the po posterior probability that  it 's Info - on up ,


And we have our Info - on. So in my c my case , this would sort of make this  happy , and this would make the Go - there happy. What you 're saying is we have a Where - X question , Where - X node , that makes both happy. Right ? That 's what you 're proposing , which is , in my mind just as fine. So w if we have a construction  node , " where is X " , it 's gonna both get the po posterior probability that  it 's Info - on up ,

Info - on is True - up , and that Go - there is True - up , as well. Which would be exactly analogous to what I 'm proposing is , this makes  uh makes something here true , and this makes something  also something here true , and this makes this True - up , and this makes this True - up as well.


And we have our Info - on. So in my c my case , this would sort of make this  happy , and this would make the Go - there happy. What you 're saying is we have a Where - X question , Where - X node , that makes both happy. Right ? That 's what you 're proposing , which is , in my mind just as fine. So w if we have a construction  node , " where is X " , it 's gonna both get the po posterior probability that  it 's Info - on up ,

Info - on is True - up , and that Go - there is True - up , as well. Which would be exactly analogous to what I 'm proposing is , this makes  uh makes something here true , and this makes something  also something here true , and this makes this True - up , and this makes this True - up as well.

I kinda like it better without that extra level of indirection too. You know with  with this points to this points to that , and so on because  I don't know , it


Info - on is True - up , and that Go - there is True - up , as well. Which would be exactly analogous to what I 'm proposing is , this makes  uh makes something here true , and this makes something  also something here true , and this makes this True - up , and this makes this True - up as well.

I kinda like it better without that extra level of indirection too. You know with  with this points to this points to that , and so on because  I don't know , it


Info - on is True - up , and that Go - there is True - up , as well. Which would be exactly analogous to what I 'm proposing is , this makes  uh makes something here true , and this makes something  also something here true , and this makes this True - up , and this makes this True - up as well.

I kinda like it better without that extra level of indirection too. You know with  with this points to this points to that , and so on because  I don't know , it

Yeah , because we get  we get tons of constructions I think. Because , you know , mmm people have many ways of asking for the same thing ,


I kinda like it better without that extra level of indirection too. You know with  with this points to this points to that , and so on because  I don't know , it

Yeah , because we get  we get tons of constructions I think. Because , you know , mmm people have many ways of asking for the same thing ,


Yeah , because we get  we get tons of constructions I think. Because , you know , mmm people have many ways of asking for the same thing ,


I have a different kinda question , might be related , which is , OK so implicitly everything in EDU , we 're always inferring the speaker intent , right ? Like , what they want either , the information that they want , or  It 's always information that they want probably , of some kind. Right ? Or I  I don't know , or what 's something that they


I have a different kinda question , might be related , which is , OK so implicitly everything in EDU , we 're always inferring the speaker intent , right ? Like , what they want either , the information that they want , or  It 's always information that they want probably , of some kind. Right ? Or I  I don't know , or what 's something that they

The system doesn't massage you , no. No.


I have a different kinda question , might be related , which is , OK so implicitly everything in EDU , we 're always inferring the speaker intent , right ? Like , what they want either , the information that they want , or  It 's always information that they want probably , of some kind. Right ? Or I  I don't know , or what 's something that they

The system doesn't massage you , no. No.

I  I  I don't  OK. So , um , let 's see. So I don't know if the  I mean i if th just there 's more s here that 's not shown that you  it 's already like part of the system whatever , but , " where is X " , like , the fact that it is , you know , a speech - act , whatever , it is a question. It 's a question that , um , queries on some particular thing X , and X is that location. There 's , like , a lot of structure in representing that.


The system doesn't massage you , no. No.

I  I  I don't  OK. So , um , let 's see. So I don't know if the  I mean i if th just there 's more s here that 's not shown that you  it 's already like part of the system whatever , but , " where is X " , like , the fact that it is , you know , a speech - act , whatever , it is a question. It 's a question that , um , queries on some particular thing X , and X is that location. There 's , like , a lot of structure in representing that.

So that seems different from just having the node " location - X " and that goes into EDU , right ?


I  I  I don't  OK. So , um , let 's see. So I don't know if the  I mean i if th just there 's more s here that 's not shown that you  it 's already like part of the system whatever , but , " where is X " , like , the fact that it is , you know , a speech - act , whatever , it is a question. It 's a question that , um , queries on some particular thing X , and X is that location. There 's , like , a lot of structure in representing that.

So that seems different from just having the node " location - X " and that goes into EDU , right ?


So that seems different from just having the node " location - X " and that goes into EDU , right ?

So tha is that what you 're t talking about ?


So that seems different from just having the node " location - X " and that goes into EDU , right ?

So tha is that what you 're t talking about ?

So , w Exactly. We have su we have specified two.


So tha is that what you 're t talking about ?

So , w Exactly. We have su we have specified two.


So tha is that what you 're t talking about ?

So , w Exactly. We have su we have specified two.

OK , the next one would be here , just for mood.


So , w Exactly. We have su we have specified two.

OK , the next one would be here , just for mood.


OK , the next one would be here , just for mood.


OK , the next one would be here , just for mood.

The next one would be what we can squeeze out of the uh I don't know , maybe we wanna observe the uh , um ,   uh the length of  of the words used , and , or the prosody


The next one would be what we can squeeze out of the uh I don't know , maybe we wanna observe the uh , um ,   uh the length of  of the words used , and , or the prosody


The next one would be what we can squeeze out of the uh I don't know , maybe we wanna observe the uh , um ,   uh the length of  of the words used , and , or the prosody

and g a and t make conclusions about the user 's intelligence.


and g a and t make conclusions about the user 's intelligence.


and g a and t make conclusions about the user 's intelligence.

um , so in some ways in the other sort of parallel set of mo more linguistic meetings we 've been talking about possible semantics of some construction.


um , so in some ways in the other sort of parallel set of mo more linguistic meetings we 've been talking about possible semantics of some construction.


um , so in some ways in the other sort of parallel set of mo more linguistic meetings we 've been talking about possible semantics of some construction.

Right ? Where it was the simulation that 's , according to it  you know , that  that corresponds to it , and as well the  as discourse , whatever , conte infor in discourse information ,


Right ? Where it was the simulation that 's , according to it  you know , that  that corresponds to it , and as well the  as discourse , whatever , conte infor in discourse information ,


Right ? Where it was the simulation that 's , according to it  you know , that  that corresponds to it , and as well the  as discourse , whatever , conte infor in discourse information ,

such as the mood , and , you know , other stuff. So , are we looking for a sort of abbreviation of that , that 's tailored to this problem ? Cuz that  that has , you know , basically , you know , s it 's in progress still it 's in development still , but it definitely has various feature slots , attributes , um , bindings between things


Right ? Where it was the simulation that 's , according to it  you know , that  that corresponds to it , and as well the  as discourse , whatever , conte infor in discourse information ,

such as the mood , and , you know , other stuff. So , are we looking for a sort of abbreviation of that , that 's tailored to this problem ? Cuz that  that has , you know , basically , you know , s it 's in progress still it 's in development still , but it definitely has various feature slots , attributes , um , bindings between things

Mm - hmm. Yeah. U that 's exactly r um , why I 'm proposing  It 's too early to have  to think of them  of all of these discourse things that one could possibly observe ,


such as the mood , and , you know , other stuff. So , are we looking for a sort of abbreviation of that , that 's tailored to this problem ? Cuz that  that has , you know , basically , you know , s it 's in progress still it 's in development still , but it definitely has various feature slots , attributes , um , bindings between things

Mm - hmm. Yeah. U that 's exactly r um , why I 'm proposing  It 's too early to have  to think of them  of all of these discourse things that one could possibly observe ,


Mm - hmm. Yeah. U that 's exactly r um , why I 'm proposing  It 's too early to have  to think of them  of all of these discourse things that one could possibly observe ,


human beings are not allowed to ask anything but " where is X ".


human beings are not allowed to ask anything but " where is X ".

This is the only utterance in the world. What could we observe from that ?


This is the only utterance in the world. What could we observe from that ?


This is the only utterance in the world. What could we observe from that ?

not the  the choices of " where is X " or " how do I get to X ". Just " where is X ".


not the  the choices of " where is X " or " how do I get to X ". Just " where is X ".


And , but you know , do it  do it in such a way that we know that people can also say , " is the town hall in front of the bank " , so that we need something like a w WH focus. Nuh ? Should be  should be there , that , you know , this  the  whatever we get from the


And , but you know , do it  do it in such a way that we know that people can also say , " is the town hall in front of the bank " , so that we need something like a w WH focus. Nuh ? Should be  should be there , that , you know , this  the  whatever we get from the

Wait , so do , or do not take other kinds of constructions into account ?


And , but you know , do it  do it in such a way that we know that people can also say , " is the town hall in front of the bank " , so that we need something like a w WH focus. Nuh ? Should be  should be there , that , you know , this  the  whatever we get from the

Wait , so do , or do not take other kinds of constructions into account ?

Well , if you  if you can , oh definitely do ,


Wait , so do , or do not take other kinds of constructions into account ?

Well , if you  if you can , oh definitely do ,

where possible. Right ? If i if  if it 's not at all triggered by our thing , then it 's irrelevant ,


Well , if you  if you can , oh definitely do ,

where possible. Right ? If i if  if it 's not at all triggered by our thing , then it 's irrelevant ,


where possible. Right ? If i if  if it 's not at all triggered by our thing , then it 's irrelevant ,

and it doesn't hurt to leave it out for the moment. Um , but


where possible. Right ? If i if  if it 's not at all triggered by our thing , then it 's irrelevant ,

and it doesn't hurt to leave it out for the moment. Um , but

OK. Um , it seems like for instance , " where is X " , the fact that it might mean um , " tell me how to get to X " , like  Do y So , would you wanna say that those two are both , like  Those are the two interpretations , right ? the  the ones that are location or path. So , you could say that the s construction is a question asking about this location , and then you can additionally infer , if they 're asking about the location , it 's because they wanna go to that place , in which case , the  you 're jumping a step  step and saying , " oh , I know where it is


and it doesn't hurt to leave it out for the moment. Um , but

OK. Um , it seems like for instance , " where is X " , the fact that it might mean um , " tell me how to get to X " , like  Do y So , would you wanna say that those two are both , like  Those are the two interpretations , right ? the  the ones that are location or path. So , you could say that the s construction is a question asking about this location , and then you can additionally infer , if they 're asking about the location , it 's because they wanna go to that place , in which case , the  you 're jumping a step  step and saying , " oh , I know where it is


OK. Um , it seems like for instance , " where is X " , the fact that it might mean um , " tell me how to get to X " , like  Do y So , would you wanna say that those two are both , like  Those are the two interpretations , right ? the  the ones that are location or path. So , you could say that the s construction is a question asking about this location , and then you can additionally infer , if they 're asking about the location , it 's because they wanna go to that place , in which case , the  you 're jumping a step  step and saying , " oh , I know where it is

but I also know how to get  they wanna seem  they seem to wanna get there so I 'm gonna tell them ". So there 's like structure


but I also know how to get  they wanna seem  they seem to wanna get there so I 'm gonna tell them ". So there 's like structure

Right , th this  it 's not  it 's not that this is sort of like semantically ambiguous between these two.


Right , th this  it 's not  it 's not that this is sort of like semantically ambiguous between these two.

It 's really about this but why would you care about this ? Well , it 's because you also want to know this , or something like that right ?


It 's really about this but why would you care about this ? Well , it 's because you also want to know this , or something like that right ?

So it 's like you infer the speaker intent ,


It 's really about this but why would you care about this ? Well , it 's because you also want to know this , or something like that right ?

So it 's like you infer the speaker intent ,

and then infer a plan , a larger plan from that , for which you have the additional information ,


So it 's like you infer the speaker intent ,

and then infer a plan , a larger plan from that , for which you have the additional information ,


and then infer a plan , a larger plan from that , for which you have the additional information ,


Think  Uh , well this is just a mental exercise.


Think  Uh , well this is just a mental exercise.

If you think about , focus on this question , how would you design  that ?


If you think about , focus on this question , how would you design  that ?

Is it  do you feel confident about saying this is part of the language already to  to detect those plans , and why would anyone care about location , if not , you know and so forth.


Is it  do you feel confident about saying this is part of the language already to  to detect those plans , and why would anyone care about location , if not , you know and so forth.

Or do you actually , I mean this is perfectly legitimate , and I  I would not have any problems with erasing this and say , that 's all we can activate , based on the utterance out of context.


Is it  do you feel confident about saying this is part of the language already to  to detect those plans , and why would anyone care about location , if not , you know and so forth.

Or do you actually , I mean this is perfectly legitimate , and I  I would not have any problems with erasing this and say , that 's all we can activate , based on the utterance out of context.

Mm - hmm. And just by an additional link  Oh.


Or do you actually , I mean this is perfectly legitimate , and I  I would not have any problems with erasing this and say , that 's all we can activate , based on the utterance out of context.

Mm - hmm. And just by an additional link  Oh.


Mm - hmm. And just by an additional link  Oh.


And then the  the  the miracle that we get out the intention , Go - there , happens , based on what we know about that entity , about the user , about his various beliefs , goals , desires , blah - blah - blah.


And then the  the  the miracle that we get out the intention , Go - there , happens , based on what we know about that entity , about the user , about his various beliefs , goals , desires , blah - blah - blah.

with context and enough user information , yeah.


And then the  the  the miracle that we get out the intention , Go - there , happens , based on what we know about that entity , about the user , about his various beliefs , goals , desires , blah - blah - blah.

with context and enough user information , yeah.

Absolutely fine. But this is the sort of thing , I  I propose that we think about ,


with context and enough user information , yeah.

Absolutely fine. But this is the sort of thing , I  I propose that we think about ,


Absolutely fine. But this is the sort of thing , I  I propose that we think about ,

so that we actually end up with um , um , nodes for the discourse and ontology so that we can put them into our Bayes - net , never change them , so we  all there is is " where is X " , and , Eva can play around with the observed things , and we can run our better JavaBayes , and have it produce some output. And for the first time in th in  in the world , we look at our output , and um  and see uh whether it  it 's any good.


so that we actually end up with um , um , nodes for the discourse and ontology so that we can put them into our Bayes - net , never change them , so we  all there is is " where is X " , and , Eva can play around with the observed things , and we can run our better JavaBayes , and have it produce some output. And for the first time in th in  in the world , we look at our output , and um  and see uh whether it  it 's any good.


Here 's hoping. Right ? Now cross your fingers.


Here 's hoping. Right ? Now cross your fingers.

Yeah , I  I mean , for me this is just a ba matter of curiosity , I wanna  would like to look at uh , what this ad - hoc process of designing a belief - net would actually produce.


Yeah , I  I mean , for me this is just a ba matter of curiosity , I wanna  would like to look at uh , what this ad - hoc process of designing a belief - net would actually produce.

If  if we ask it where is something. And , maybe it also h enables you to think about certain things more specifically , um , come up with interesting questions , to which you can find interesting answers. And , additionally it might fit in really nicely with the paper. Because if  if  if we want an example for the paper , I suggest there it is.


If  if we ask it where is something. And , maybe it also h enables you to think about certain things more specifically , um , come up with interesting questions , to which you can find interesting answers. And , additionally it might fit in really nicely with the paper. Because if  if  if we want an example for the paper , I suggest there it is.


If  if we ask it where is something. And , maybe it also h enables you to think about certain things more specifically , um , come up with interesting questions , to which you can find interesting answers. And , additionally it might fit in really nicely with the paper. Because if  if  if we want an example for the paper , I suggest there it is.

So th this might be a nice opening paragraph for the paper as saying , " you know people look at kinds of   at ambiguities " , and um , in the literature there 's " bank " and whatever kinds of garden path phenomenon.


So th this might be a nice opening paragraph for the paper as saying , " you know people look at kinds of   at ambiguities " , and um , in the literature there 's " bank " and whatever kinds of garden path phenomenon.

And we can say , well , that 's all nonsense. A , A , uh these things are never really ambiguous in discourse , B , B , don't ever occur really in discourse , but normal statements that seem completely unambiguous , such as " where is the blah - blah " , actually are terribly complex , and completely ambiguous.


And we can say , well , that 's all nonsense. A , A , uh these things are never really ambiguous in discourse , B , B , don't ever occur really in discourse , but normal statements that seem completely unambiguous , such as " where is the blah - blah " , actually are terribly complex , and completely ambiguous.

And so , what every everybody else has been doing so far in  in  in  you know , has been completely nonsensical , and can all go into the wastepaper bin , and the only


And we can say , well , that 's all nonsense. A , A , uh these things are never really ambiguous in discourse , B , B , don't ever occur really in discourse , but normal statements that seem completely unambiguous , such as " where is the blah - blah " , actually are terribly complex , and completely ambiguous.

And so , what every everybody else has been doing so far in  in  in  you know , has been completely nonsensical , and can all go into the wastepaper bin , and the only

That 's always a good way to begin. Yeah. Yeah.


And so , what every everybody else has been doing so far in  in  in  you know , has been completely nonsensical , and can all go into the wastepaper bin , and the only

That 's always a good way to begin. Yeah. Yeah.


That 's always a good way to begin. Yeah. Yeah.


Nice overture , but , you know , just not really  OK , I 'm eja exaggerating , but that might be , you know , saying " hey " , you know , some stuff is  is actually complex , if you look at it in  in  in the vacuum


Nice overture , but , you know , just not really  OK , I 'm eja exaggerating , but that might be , you know , saying " hey " , you know , some stuff is  is actually complex , if you look at it in  in  in the vacuum

and  and ceases to be complex in reality. And some stuff that 's as  that 's absolutely straightforward in the vacuum , is actually terribly complex in reality. Would be nice sort of , uh , also , nice , um bottom - up linguistics , um , type message.


and  and ceases to be complex in reality. And some stuff that 's as  that 's absolutely straightforward in the vacuum , is actually terribly complex in reality. Would be nice sort of , uh , also , nice , um bottom - up linguistics , um , type message.

Versus the old top - down school. I 'm running out of time. OK.


Versus the old top - down school. I 'm running out of time. OK.

At four ten. OK , this is the other bit of news. The subjects today know Fey , so she can't be here , and do the wizarding. So I 'm gonna do the wizarding


At four ten. OK , this is the other bit of news. The subjects today know Fey , so she can't be here , and do the wizarding. So I 'm gonna do the wizarding


Also we 're getting a  a person who just got fired uh , from her job. Uh a person from Oakland who is interested in maybe continuing the wizard bit once Fey leaves in August. And um , she 's gonna look at it today. Which is good news in the sense that if we want to continue , after the thir thir after July , we can. We could. And , um  and that 's also maybe interesting for Keith and whoever , if you wanna get some more stuff into the data collection. Remember this , we can completely change the set - up any time we want.


Also we 're getting a  a person who just got fired uh , from her job. Uh a person from Oakland who is interested in maybe continuing the wizard bit once Fey leaves in August. And um , she 's gonna look at it today. Which is good news in the sense that if we want to continue , after the thir thir after July , we can. We could. And , um  and that 's also maybe interesting for Keith and whoever , if you wanna get some more stuff into the data collection. Remember this , we can completely change the set - up any time we want.

Look at the results we 've gotten so far for the first , whatever , fifty some subjects ?


Also we 're getting a  a person who just got fired uh , from her job. Uh a person from Oakland who is interested in maybe continuing the wizard bit once Fey leaves in August. And um , she 's gonna look at it today. Which is good news in the sense that if we want to continue , after the thir thir after July , we can. We could. And , um  and that 's also maybe interesting for Keith and whoever , if you wanna get some more stuff into the data collection. Remember this , we can completely change the set - up any time we want.

Look at the results we 've gotten so far for the first , whatever , fifty some subjects ?

Fifty ? You 've had fifty so far , or  ?


Look at the results we 've gotten so far for the first , whatever , fifty some subjects ?

Fifty ? You 've had fifty so far , or  ?


Fifty ? You 've had fifty so far , or  ?

But , until Fey is leaving , we surely will hit the  some of the higher numbers.


But , until Fey is leaving , we surely will hit the  some of the higher numbers.


But , until Fey is leaving , we surely will hit the  some of the higher numbers.

And um , so that 's cool. Can a do more funky stuff.


But , until Fey is leaving , we surely will hit the  some of the higher numbers.

And um , so that 's cool. Can a do more funky stuff.

Sure. Yeah , I 'll have to look more into that data. Is that around ? Like , cuz that 's pretty much getting posted or something right away when you get it ?


And um , so that 's cool. Can a do more funky stuff.

Sure. Yeah , I 'll have to look more into that data. Is that around ? Like , cuz that 's pretty much getting posted or something right away when you get it ?


And um , so that 's cool. Can a do more funky stuff.

Sure. Yeah , I 'll have to look more into that data. Is that around ? Like , cuz that 's pretty much getting posted or something right away when you get it ?

Or  ? I guess it has to be transcribed , huh ?


Sure. Yeah , I 'll have to look more into that data. Is that around ? Like , cuz that 's pretty much getting posted or something right away when you get it ?

Or  ? I guess it has to be transcribed , huh ?

We have uh , eh found someone here who 's hand st hand transcribing the first twelve.


Or  ? I guess it has to be transcribed , huh ?

We have uh , eh found someone here who 's hand st hand transcribing the first twelve.


We have uh , eh found someone here who 's hand st hand transcribing the first twelve.


just so we can build a  a language model for the recognizer.


just so we can build a  a language model for the recognizer.

But , um  So those should be available soon.


But , um  So those should be available soon.


But , um  So those should be available soon.

You know  I mean you know that I  that I looked at the first  the first one and got enough data to keep me going for , you know , probably most of July. So.  But , um. Yeah , a probably not the right way to do it actually.


You know  I mean you know that I  that I looked at the first  the first one and got enough data to keep me going for , you know , probably most of July. So.  But , um. Yeah , a probably not the right way to do it actually.

But you can listen to  a y y y You can listen to all of them from your Solaris box.


But you can listen to  a y y y You can listen to all of them from your Solaris box.


Okay. Great. Well , welcome to the third meeting of conceptual design. I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running. Okay. Um , on the agenda for this , um , for this particular meeting , we'll have your three presentations on what you've done since our last meeting , after we came up with um some general ideas of our design. And , um , then we have to make some key decisions on , on our remote control concept , and how we're gonna make it , what uh materials we're gonna use , and that sort of thing.


Okay. Great. Well , welcome to the third meeting of conceptual design. I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running. Okay. Um , on the agenda for this , um , for this particular meeting , we'll have your three presentations on what you've done since our last meeting , after we came up with um some general ideas of our design. And , um , then we have to make some key decisions on , on our remote control concept , and how we're gonna make it , what uh materials we're gonna use , and that sort of thing.

And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter.


And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter.


And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter.

Alright , and I will switch up PowerPoint.


Alright , and I will switch up PowerPoint.


Alright , and I will switch up PowerPoint.

Should be just loading.  Okay. Oh , although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use , um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um , first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made , and what is it happens inside the casing , which is more your field. Um , thes main internal feature is a circuit board , which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source.


Should be just loading.  Okay. Oh , although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use , um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um , first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made , and what is it happens inside the casing , which is more your field. Um , thes main internal feature is a circuit board , which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source.

Which is not necessarily a battery , as we're about to see. Um , there are several components of , um , the circuit board that we need to consider , where we'll be getting them from , what they'll be made of. Um , including the integrated circuit , which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um , diodes , transistors , resonators , resistors , and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um , and all their positioning in the circuit.


Should be just loading.  Okay. Oh , although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use , um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um , first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made , and what is it happens inside the casing , which is more your field. Um , thes main internal feature is a circuit board , which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source.

Which is not necessarily a battery , as we're about to see. Um , there are several components of , um , the circuit board that we need to consider , where we'll be getting them from , what they'll be made of. Um , including the integrated circuit , which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um , diodes , transistors , resonators , resistors , and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um , and all their positioning in the circuit.

Um  Are they all included , like mandatorily , or r are these different options ?


Should be just loading.  Okay. Oh , although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use , um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um , first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made , and what is it happens inside the casing , which is more your field. Um , thes main internal feature is a circuit board , which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source.

Which is not necessarily a battery , as we're about to see. Um , there are several components of , um , the circuit board that we need to consider , where we'll be getting them from , what they'll be made of. Um , including the integrated circuit , which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um , diodes , transistors , resonators , resistors , and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um , and all their positioning in the circuit.

Um  Are they all included , like mandatorily , or r are these different options ?

Uh , these , they're all different options , they're all separate , apart from the chip , which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple , a regular , advanced.


Which is not necessarily a battery , as we're about to see. Um , there are several components of , um , the circuit board that we need to consider , where we'll be getting them from , what they'll be made of. Um , including the integrated circuit , which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um , diodes , transistors , resonators , resistors , and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um , and all their positioning in the circuit.

Um  Are they all included , like mandatorily , or r are these different options ?

Uh , these , they're all different options , they're all separate , apart from the chip , which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple , a regular , advanced.


Um  Are they all included , like mandatorily , or r are these different options ?

Uh , these , they're all different options , they're all separate , apart from the chip , which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple , a regular , advanced.

We can go into that later. Um , all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately , and work out the most , like , effective um circuit , including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course , that's a light emitting diode. So , we could , so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things , with that as well.


Uh , these , they're all different options , they're all separate , apart from the chip , which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple , a regular , advanced.

We can go into that later. Um , all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately , and work out the most , like , effective um circuit , including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course , that's a light emitting diode. So , we could , so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things , with that as well.


We can go into that later. Um , all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately , and work out the most , like , effective um circuit , including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course , that's a light emitting diode. So , we could , so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things , with that as well.

Okay , there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source. We could use a basic battery , but that brings with it , like they need to be recharged and the bulk , the size of it as well. And they're not so great to dispose of , environmentally.  There's a hand-powered dynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago. A bit out of date. Kinetic energy is something that's been recently developed.


Okay , there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source. We could use a basic battery , but that brings with it , like they need to be recharged and the bulk , the size of it as well. And they're not so great to dispose of , environmentally.  There's a hand-powered dynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago. A bit out of date. Kinetic energy is something that's been recently developed.

Um , where you manually charge up the power.


Um , where you manually charge up the power.


Um , where you manually charge up the power.

Just every once in a while or constantly ?


Just every once in a while or constantly ?

Sorry ? Yeah. Every once in a while I think


Just every once in a while or constantly ?

Sorry ? Yeah. Every once in a while I think

Alright. It'd be kind of strange to always be cranking it I think.


Just every once in a while or constantly ?

Sorry ? Yeah. Every once in a while I think

Alright. It'd be kind of strange to always be cranking it I think.

. But it's  Yeah. It would be like going a step back in time.


Sorry ? Yeah. Every once in a while I think

Alright. It'd be kind of strange to always be cranking it I think.

. But it's  Yeah. It would be like going a step back in time.


Alright. It'd be kind of strange to always be cranking it I think.

. But it's  Yeah. It would be like going a step back in time.

I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology.


. But it's  Yeah. It would be like going a step back in time.

I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology.


I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology.

Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices , where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean , the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um , or there's solar power , which we've been considering inside a building , which is where it's gonna be used , might not be quite so useful.


Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices , where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean , the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um , or there's solar power , which we've been considering inside a building , which is where it's gonna be used , might not be quite so useful.

But , good to look into , renewable energy , always the way. Um , lots of considerations for the case , like what sort of shape it would be , curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back ,


Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices , where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean , the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um , or there's solar power , which we've been considering inside a building , which is where it's gonna be used , might not be quite so useful.

But , good to look into , renewable energy , always the way. Um , lots of considerations for the case , like what sort of shape it would be , curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back ,

'cause it had so many buttons on , and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like a volume button instead of the on button.


But , good to look into , renewable energy , always the way. Um , lots of considerations for the case , like what sort of shape it would be , curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back ,

'cause it had so many buttons on , and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like a volume button instead of the on button.


But , good to look into , renewable energy , always the way. Um , lots of considerations for the case , like what sort of shape it would be , curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back ,

'cause it had so many buttons on , and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like a volume button instead of the on button.

Because you can't really see which way round it is.


'cause it had so many buttons on , and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like a volume button instead of the on button.

Because you can't really see which way round it is.


Because you can't really see which way round it is.

Um , we also can choose what materials  um , the  we could use metal , we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and things like that , so it's very like soft , not so stressful on your hands.


Um , we also can choose what materials  um , the  we could use metal , we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and things like that , so it's very like soft , not so stressful on your hands.


Um , we also can choose what materials  um , the  we could use metal , we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and things like that , so it's very like soft , not so stressful on your hands.

Um , again , stepping back in time again there.


Um , again , stepping back in time again there.

I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here.


Um , again , stepping back in time again there.

I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here.

Um , titanium is not gonna be possible , even though it just it beyond our budget really. But , would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some  we've got some good advances in technology , with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for , um ,  they're basically quite a flexible design , modern , you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on mobiles or computer laptop pads.


I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here.

Um , titanium is not gonna be possible , even though it just it beyond our budget really. But , would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some  we've got some good advances in technology , with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for , um ,  they're basically quite a flexible design , modern , you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on mobiles or computer laptop pads.


Um , titanium is not gonna be possible , even though it just it beyond our budget really. But , would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some  we've got some good advances in technology , with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for , um ,  they're basically quite a flexible design , modern , you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on mobiles or computer laptop pads.


Um , titanium is not gonna be possible , even though it just it beyond our budget really. But , would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some  we've got some good advances in technology , with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for , um ,  they're basically quite a flexible design , modern , you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on mobiles or computer laptop pads.

Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It , it


Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It , it


Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It , it

display , and the glow in the dark thing might be difficult.


display , and the glow in the dark thing might be difficult.

And that would lead to an advanced  yeah. If we have  yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip.


display , and the glow in the dark thing might be difficult.

And that would lead to an advanced  yeah. If we have  yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip.

And it's unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget.


And that would lead to an advanced  yeah. If we have  yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip.

And it's unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget.


And it's unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget.

Um , also we've got the integrated pushbutton , which is what we're most familiar with. It's the most straightforward. But you can in like incorporate that with a scroll button as well. . Got decisions to make there. And this is what I was just saying before. Linked in the different  depends on what type of buttons we have and the inputs. Um simple would go with the pushbutton. Um , regular you could link with the scroll button. And the advanced we'd have to go with a L_C_D_ s display.


Um , also we've got the integrated pushbutton , which is what we're most familiar with. It's the most straightforward. But you can in like incorporate that with a scroll button as well. . Got decisions to make there. And this is what I was just saying before. Linked in the different  depends on what type of buttons we have and the inputs. Um simple would go with the pushbutton. Um , regular you could link with the scroll button. And the advanced we'd have to go with a L_C_D_ s display.

My personal preferences ? I think we could go for the kinetic energy source. I don't , I think that's quite um an advanced kind of technology. It's not been seen before , so it could be quite a , a novelty factor , attractive as well. And also energy saving 'cause you're producing the energy , you don't need an external sort of battery supply or solar panels. You just give it a shake.


My personal preferences ? I think we could go for the kinetic energy source. I don't , I think that's quite um an advanced kind of technology. It's not been seen before , so it could be quite a , a novelty factor , attractive as well. And also energy saving 'cause you're producing the energy , you don't need an external sort of battery supply or solar panels. You just give it a shake.


Rubber casing I thing would probably the best , if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um , and gives you , yeah , more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple ,


Rubber casing I thing would probably the best , if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um , and gives you , yeah , more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple ,

then we could possibly have the scroll and the push , but no L_C_D_ , 'cause we probably can't afford that one.


Rubber casing I thing would probably the best , if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um , and gives you , yeah , more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple ,

then we could possibly have the scroll and the push , but no L_C_D_ , 'cause we probably can't afford that one.

Yeah. Um , one concern with the rubber casing is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these  chips and diodes and delicate technology as


then we could possibly have the scroll and the push , but no L_C_D_ , 'cause we probably can't afford that one.

Yeah. Um , one concern with the rubber casing is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these  chips and diodes and delicate technology as

like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards.


Yeah. Um , one concern with the rubber casing is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these  chips and diodes and delicate technology as

like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards.

I think that would , uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the , what's in contact with the human.


like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards.

I think that would , uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the , what's in contact with the human.

Yeah. Another thing is it might be more difficult  if it's a rubber exterior  talking about putting on interchangeable plates.


I think that would , uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the , what's in contact with the human.

Yeah. Another thing is it might be more difficult  if it's a rubber exterior  talking about putting on interchangeable plates.


Yeah. Another thing is it might be more difficult  if it's a rubber exterior  talking about putting on interchangeable plates.


I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.


I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.

Maybe if the , um , if it was just kind of a , more of a rubber coating which was on to a case.


I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.

Maybe if the , um , if it was just kind of a , more of a rubber coating which was on to a case.

So , it was kind of , the whole thing would be removable.


I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.

Maybe if the , um , if it was just kind of a , more of a rubber coating which was on to a case.

So , it was kind of , the whole thing would be removable.

Like plastic with rubber , kind of on top


Maybe if the , um , if it was just kind of a , more of a rubber coating which was on to a case.

So , it was kind of , the whole thing would be removable.

Like plastic with rubber , kind of on top


So , it was kind of , the whole thing would be removable.

Like plastic with rubber , kind of on top


Like plastic with rubber , kind of on top


Well , there's , there is a certain phone that has like a rubber casing ,


you can get sort of outer casing for iPods and something , that's just  it's protective as well.


it would reduce the impact if it was dropped or something , as well , 'cause it wouldn't damage itself so easily.


it would reduce the impact if it was dropped or something , as well , 'cause it wouldn't damage itself so easily.

I think i maybe a mixture of both there , maybe.


I think i maybe a mixture of both there , maybe.


So the actual remote would be hard plastic and the casings rubber.


That sounds good. I , um , is it possible to put designs onto this type of rubber ?


Alright. I like the kinetic energy source idea.


Alright. I like the kinetic energy source idea.

Um , I don't know when people will , um , be moving a remote around a lot.


Um , I don't know when people will , um , be moving a remote around a lot.

But I think that it's worth it , kinetety , kinetic um


But I think that it's worth it , kinetety , kinetic um


But I think that it's worth it , kinetety , kinetic um

energy source. It could make an we could have any kind of style.


energy source. It could make an we could have any kind of style.


I guess it's a bit scary 'cause it hasn't been done before.


I guess it's a bit scary 'cause it hasn't been done before.

So it seems  we'd have to do more research on it.


So it seems  we'd have to do more research on it.

Or I dunno if you could have a battery pack.


Or I dunno if you could have a battery pack.


Or I dunno if you could have a battery pack.

Yeah so there's there is a one battery , because most remotes use two batteries I believe.


Yeah so there's there is a one battery , because most remotes use two batteries I believe.


Yeah so there's there is a one battery , because most remotes use two batteries I believe.

So , if it was running off of one battery as a


So , if it was running off of one battery as a


So , if it was running off of one battery as a

Yeah. Some alternative just in case something went wrong.


Yeah. Some alternative just in case something went wrong.

Maybe we could  you were saying about um solar power ma maybe not working indoors , but a lot of calculators , yeah , have solar power.


Maybe we could  you were saying about um solar power ma maybe not working indoors , but a lot of calculators , yeah , have solar power.


Although it needs some light , doesn't it ?


Although it needs some light , doesn't it ?

Yeah , you can watch a T_V_ in the dark then.


Yeah , you can watch a T_V_ in the dark then.


But thing is , it's not  you don't need the solar all the time.


But thing is , it's not  you don't need the solar all the time.

It can be stored. It can be like  you can have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it.


It can be stored. It can be like  you can have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it.


It can be stored. It can be like  you can have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it.

It just needs to be in light for a certain amount of time per day.


It just needs to be in light for a certain amount of time per day.


I think that might be a little impractical though.


I think that might be a little impractical though.

Yeah. I think sometimes it's just shoved under , under a cushion ,


Yeah. I think sometimes it's just shoved under , under a cushion ,


Like people don't wanna have to worry about that.


I suppose it would be really annoying if you get to think , oh no , I forgot to charge my remote today.


I suppose it would be really annoying if you get to think , oh no , I forgot to charge my remote today.

Like if the kinetic thing , I think what's best about that is that it's instant energy.


Like if the kinetic thing , I think what's best about that is that it's instant energy.


Like if the kinetic thing , I think what's best about that is that it's instant energy.

You don't have to , you know , you can shake it a few times , or whatever.


You don't have to , you know , you can shake it a few times , or whatever.


You don't have to , you know , you can shake it a few times , or whatever.

Or just like pick it up when you're gonna use it.


Or just like pick it up when you're gonna use it.

Yeah. Instead of you don't have to like make sure it's in the right place to charge and .


Yeah. Instead of you don't have to like make sure it's in the right place to charge and .


I don't know why. I think , I just , I just used the mouse on there.


I don't know why. I think , I just , I just used the mouse on there.

You don't know why ? Oh okay. Is it that one ?


You don't know why ? Oh okay. Is it that one ?

Um , I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh , first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived , for example , heard or felt maybe , or  by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um , there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface , which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device , for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about.


Um , I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh , first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived , for example , heard or felt maybe , or  by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um , there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface , which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device , for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about.


Um , I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh , first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived , for example , heard or felt maybe , or  by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um , there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface , which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device , for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about.

Yeah. I'm not really sure about the pictures that  maybe that's on an L_C_D_ screen.


Yeah. I'm not really sure about the pictures that  maybe that's on an L_C_D_ screen.

Or maybe it's the the buttons or pictures or something.


Or maybe it's the the buttons or pictures or something.


Um , because command interface requires you to type textual commands and input at a keyboard , so the numbers are sort of like a keyboard. You're pressing the numbers for , um , for what you want.


Um , because command interface requires you to type textual commands and input at a keyboard , so the numbers are sort of like a keyboard. You're pressing the numbers for , um , for what you want.

So you must , for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics.


So you must , for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics.

I s I suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have  like the power would be s some kind of symbol.


So you must , for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics.

I s I suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have  like the power would be s some kind of symbol.

And if you wanted to go onto teletext or ,


I s I suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have  like the power would be s some kind of symbol.

And if you wanted to go onto teletext or ,


And if you wanted to go onto teletext or ,

I know we're not having that , but I mean a similar thing ,


I know we're not having that , but I mean a similar thing ,

you , they have  there's a like little picture with a screen with lines across it , which  I suppose it's that sort of thing like the , the symbol on the button.


you , they have  there's a like little picture with a screen with lines across it , which  I suppose it's that sort of thing like the , the symbol on the button.

But if we're having a simplified display anyway , w that , we probably won't have to focus so much on that.


But if we're having a simplified display anyway , w that , we probably won't have to focus so much on that.

It'll be more the on the numbers and the volume.


It'll be more the on the numbers and the volume.

Yeah. It'd be more a command interface , and then


It'll be more the on the numbers and the volume.

Yeah. It'd be more a command interface , and then

I suppose we need to think of symbols for like the volume , display , and stuff like that.


Yeah. It'd be more a command interface , and then

I suppose we need to think of symbols for like the volume , display , and stuff like that.


I suppose we need to think of symbols for like the volume , display , and stuff like that.

So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect ?


So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect ?

The infrared is like , that's considered a


So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect ?

The infrared is like , that's considered a

No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the , that's on the buttons of the remote control , and per


The infrared is like , that's considered a

No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the , that's on the buttons of the remote control , and per

Okay. So when it says pointing device that doesn't include


No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the , that's on the buttons of the remote control , and per

Okay. So when it says pointing device that doesn't include


No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the , that's on the buttons of the remote control , and per

Okay. So when it says pointing device that doesn't include

Well it could be a wee scroller thing , and something could come up on the screen.


Okay. So when it says pointing device that doesn't include

Well it could be a wee scroller thing , and something could come up on the screen.

Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things.


Well it could be a wee scroller thing , and something could come up on the screen.

Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things.


Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things.


But um I think we're gonna go with the command interface anyway ,


But um I think we're gonna go with the command interface anyway ,

to make it more simplistic. But the , we could incorporate some of the graphical user um points ,


to make it more simplistic. But the , we could incorporate some of the graphical user um points ,

as in  just to make it m um nicer to look at maybe.


as in  just to make it m um nicer to look at maybe.

Like  I can't think of an example , but  Sort of like little pictures rather than


Like  I can't think of an example , but  Sort of like little pictures rather than

Like a little sound. Instead of saying volume , like a little speaker or something.


Like a little sound. Instead of saying volume , like a little speaker or something.


So , it's a keyboard in the shape of it , right ?


So , it's a keyboard in the shape of it , right ?

Um , the co uh  we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated , and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um , the remote control would be cheaper to design , so that we'd have more money in the budget to , um , target the design area of the interface. You know , make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple.


Um , the co uh  we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated , and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um , the remote control would be cheaper to design , so that we'd have more money in the budget to , um , target the design area of the interface. You know , make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple.

Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget. A bit more too , yeah.


Um , the co uh  we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated , and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um , the remote control would be cheaper to design , so that we'd have more money in the budget to , um , target the design area of the interface. You know , make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple.

Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget. A bit more too , yeah.

Yeah. Seeing as it's quite a new technology. Um   We , we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our , um , more user-friendly remote control , that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons , that , um , that their functions , colours and forms aren't always helpful.


Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget. A bit more too , yeah.

Yeah. Seeing as it's quite a new technology. Um   We , we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our , um , more user-friendly remote control , that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons , that , um , that their functions , colours and forms aren't always helpful.

Yeah. That's true. That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things.


Yeah. Seeing as it's quite a new technology. Um   We , we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our , um , more user-friendly remote control , that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons , that , um , that their functions , colours and forms aren't always helpful.

Yeah. That's true. That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things.


Yeah. That's true. That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things.

Yeah. And that all interfaces are different. So , um , that doesn't improve the use of the produ product , so we need to come up with something that's easy to understand. And maybe learn from the mistakes of other interfaces that can be too complicated for people to use.


Yeah. And that all interfaces are different. So , um , that doesn't improve the use of the produ product , so we need to come up with something that's easy to understand. And maybe learn from the mistakes of other interfaces that can be too complicated for people to use.


Do you think that we should keep all the buttons to one same colour , just to keep it , give it a simplistic look.


Do you think that we should keep all the buttons to one same colour , just to keep it , give it a simplistic look.

I think if we go with the um design plate thing , we'll have to. Just because of colour clashing ,


I think if we go with the um design plate thing , we'll have to. Just because of colour clashing ,


so and , and we might , I mean , depending on what comes out of the design , we might have to stick to just black buttons.


so and , and we might , I mean , depending on what comes out of the design , we might have to stick to just black buttons.

You mean different colours for the lighting or


You mean different colours for the lighting or

Um , well , um , I thought we had um decided that we would  if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And so if they were black , it wouldn't be possible for them to light up.


You mean different colours for the lighting or

Um , well , um , I thought we had um decided that we would  if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And so if they were black , it wouldn't be possible for them to light up.

If they were white they would glow , probably.


Um , well , um , I thought we had um decided that we would  if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And so if they were black , it wouldn't be possible for them to light up.

If they were white they would glow , probably.


If they were white they would glow , probably.


If they were white they would glow , probably.

Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards.


Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards.


Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards.

But , but I guess , you mean from the back.


But , but I guess , you mean from the back.


But , but I guess , you mean from the back.

I'd assume , like , an internal light , that comes through.


I'd assume , like , an internal light , that comes through.


So there would have to , have to be some parts maybe transparent around the buttons , or something.


So there would have to , have to be some parts maybe transparent around the buttons , or something.

and well rubber is a more translucent product too ,


and well rubber is a more translucent product too ,


In the phone that I was thinking of as well , when you change the um covers of it , the , the little buttons that actually , you know , that contro control stuff , are behind the rubber.


In the phone that I was thinking of as well , when you change the um covers of it , the , the little buttons that actually , you know , that contro control stuff , are behind the rubber.

So you can change the buttons when you're changing the faces. Do you know what I mean ?


So you can change the buttons when you're changing the faces. Do you know what I mean ?


So  I mean , we don't have to decide on one colour. Each face could have its own colour of buttons maybe ?


So  I mean , we don't have to decide on one colour. Each face could have its own colour of buttons maybe ?

Well , if they're raised up buttons. So that you can feel them.


Well , if they're raised up buttons. So that you can feel them.

We were talking about it being more um , a lot more tangible.


Well , if they're raised up buttons. So that you can feel them.

We were talking about it being more um , a lot more tangible.

Um , it might be more difficult to do. If they're , if they're sticking up.


We were talking about it being more um , a lot more tangible.

Um , it might be more difficult to do. If they're , if they're sticking up.


We were talking about it being more um , a lot more tangible.

Um , it might be more difficult to do. If they're , if they're sticking up.

If it's flat then , like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone , it's like all very flat , and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons , but


Um , it might be more difficult to do. If they're , if they're sticking up.

If it's flat then , like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone , it's like all very flat , and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons , but


If it's flat then , like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone , it's like all very flat , and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons , but


If it's flat then , like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone , it's like all very flat , and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons , but

I think it would be possible. I don't think it would make that much difference. I mean , the uh the dimensions of it. 'Cause if it's just like constructed in the same way as like the front cover of a mobile phone. You can like take off the hard cover and then there's the like say the buttons. And then you get to the circuit. I don't think it would matter that the buttons were bigger through the , the top casing. I'm sure you could f work it out to fit in the casing , without causing too much difficulty.


I think it would be possible. I don't think it would make that much difference. I mean , the uh the dimensions of it. 'Cause if it's just like constructed in the same way as like the front cover of a mobile phone. You can like take off the hard cover and then there's the like say the buttons. And then you get to the circuit. I don't think it would matter that the buttons were bigger through the , the top casing. I'm sure you could f work it out to fit in the casing , without causing too much difficulty.


Alright.  I have a shorter report for you today. Um , it took a while to get this , uh  Uh.


Okay , so um , this report is about uh trend-watching. Um , basically so we can live up to our , our uh purpose of having a very fashionable remote control. Sorry. There we go. Um   So , just so you know , my method was mainly web web-based research this time around. I also spoke with fashion experts in Milan , New York and Paris. And I looked at the design reports from previous years , here at Real Remote. Um , just so c we can work off of them , see how fashions have changed. Um ,  so I'll list the three most important aspects that I've come across. Um , and they , they're each more important than the one that comes after it. Uh , the first one is that there should be a fancy look-and-feel , instead of the current functional look-and-feel. Um , this should be our priority , as we've been saying. The second most important aspect is that a remote sh that the remote control should be technologically innovative. So , I think we've done a lot of talking about that , just with lighting and the buttons and the  face-plates. Um , so it looks like we'll be able to keep on track with that. And the third most important aspect is that the remote control should be easy to use.  So , pretty basic there. And the recent fashion update , uh , according to fashion-watchers in Paris and Milan , is that fruit and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes , shoes and furniture.  Um , also , in contra uh in contrast to last year , the feel of the material is expected to be spongy. Again , we've already discussed that with rubber versus hard plastic buttons. Um  So , my personal preferences here , um of course , as  we , we've already talked about the personal face-plates in this meeting , and I'd like to stick to that. The fruits and vegetable themes , I don't know if that's going to work for us. It sounds something that you'd use on kitchenware.


Okay , so um , this report is about uh trend-watching. Um , basically so we can live up to our , our uh purpose of having a very fashionable remote control. Sorry. There we go. Um   So , just so you know , my method was mainly web web-based research this time around. I also spoke with fashion experts in Milan , New York and Paris. And I looked at the design reports from previous years , here at Real Remote. Um , just so c we can work off of them , see how fashions have changed. Um ,  so I'll list the three most important aspects that I've come across. Um , and they , they're each more important than the one that comes after it. Uh , the first one is that there should be a fancy look-and-feel , instead of the current functional look-and-feel. Um , this should be our priority , as we've been saying. The second most important aspect is that a remote sh that the remote control should be technologically innovative. So , I think we've done a lot of talking about that , just with lighting and the buttons and the  face-plates. Um , so it looks like we'll be able to keep on track with that. And the third most important aspect is that the remote control should be easy to use.  So , pretty basic there. And the recent fashion update , uh , according to fashion-watchers in Paris and Milan , is that fruit and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes , shoes and furniture.  Um , also , in contra uh in contrast to last year , the feel of the material is expected to be spongy. Again , we've already discussed that with rubber versus hard plastic buttons. Um  So , my personal preferences here , um of course , as  we , we've already talked about the personal face-plates in this meeting , and I'd like to stick to that. The fruits and vegetable themes , I don't know if that's going to work for us. It sounds something that you'd use on kitchenware.

I don't know if we wanna do it on remotes.


I don't know if we wanna do it on remotes.


I don't know if we wanna do it on remotes.

Maybe for the television that people have in their kitchen. Um , the temporary light-up idea , sounds like we're gonna stick to that. And then , uh , tying in a trendy look with user-friendliness.


Maybe for the television that people have in their kitchen. Um , the temporary light-up idea , sounds like we're gonna stick to that. And then , uh , tying in a trendy look with user-friendliness.

Yeah. Yeah , it's the fruits and vegetables is the only area that I find rather jarring. Everything else we can really , we can really


Yeah. Yeah , it's the fruits and vegetables is the only area that I find rather jarring. Everything else we can really , we can really

um , do , according to our plans already , given the market. But fruits and vegetables seems a very strange idea for a remote control.


um , do , according to our plans already , given the market. But fruits and vegetables seems a very strange idea for a remote control.

It's , it's a little  but it , it's everywhere.


It's , it's a little  but it , it's everywhere.


So maybe we  I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them , you know.


So maybe we  I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them , you know.

But I I think , I think if we stick to T_V_ based , you know , maybe T_V_ shows , or


So maybe we  I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them , you know.

But I I think , I think if we stick to T_V_ based , you know , maybe T_V_ shows , or

But they still need to um fit into people's decor though.


But I I think , I think if we stick to T_V_ based , you know , maybe T_V_ shows , or

But they still need to um fit into people's decor though.


But they still need to um fit into people's decor though.

We  I think we possibly could take a more abstract design.


We  I think we possibly could take a more abstract design.


We  I think we possibly could take a more abstract design.

Like look at the basic shapes of different fruits and vegetables. And then just really like strip it down to like really basic shapes. I mean we don't have to make something in the shape of a strawberry , but it could have the curves of a strawberry , or something.


Like look at the basic shapes of different fruits and vegetables. And then just really like strip it down to like really basic shapes. I mean we don't have to make something in the shape of a strawberry , but it could have the curves of a strawberry , or something.


Or just like you know really make it a quite abstract , if that's fits in more with what we're doing. Instead of fruits and vegetables ,


Or just like you know really make it a quite abstract , if that's fits in more with what we're doing. Instead of fruits and vegetables ,

just  if you look at it straightforward , it's a bit  yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy  well , obviously it does , if that's the current theme.


just  if you look at it straightforward , it's a bit  yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy  well , obviously it does , if that's the current theme.


just  if you look at it straightforward , it's a bit  yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy  well , obviously it does , if that's the current theme.

But  may maybe we could go more directly , I don't know.


But  may maybe we could go more directly , I don't know.

But initially , I dunno. I think if we just sort of tone it down a bit.


But initially , I dunno. I think if we just sort of tone it down a bit.


like more like photos of fruit , on , on our product.


I dunno if you all remember from our kickoff meeting , we talked about our favourite animals.


I dunno if you all remember from our kickoff meeting , we talked about our favourite animals.

So maybe there could be animal-based , you know. Because a lot of people have a house cat. Or , or a dog.


So maybe there could be animal-based , you know. Because a lot of people have a house cat. Or , or a dog.

Um , that might be getting , you know , too specific , and we should see what the success of the first face-plates are. But it's something to keep in mind.


Um , that might be getting , you know , too specific , and we should see what the success of the first face-plates are. But it's something to keep in mind.

And , did you have any questions ? Pretty straightforward ?


And , did you have any questions ? Pretty straightforward ?


Alright , given that information , we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again.


Alright , given that information , we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again.

There you go.  Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the


Alright , given that information , we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again.

There you go.  Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the

I didn't for the first one. But I have now.


There you go.  Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the

I didn't for the first one. But I have now.


I didn't for the first one. But I have now.


Okay. I'm just trying to make this pop up now. Alright. Here we go. Okay so we have to uh decide now exactly what we are going to do. So energy , we


Okay. I'm just trying to make this pop up now. Alright. Here we go. Okay so we have to uh decide now exactly what we are going to do. So energy , we

oh. Oh no I can't write it in when it's in this setting.


oh. Oh no I can't write it in when it's in this setting.

Does anyone know how to take it out of  Um ,


Does anyone know how to take it out of  Um ,


Does anyone know how to take it out of  Um ,

yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um , so back to decisions. Energy , we've decided on kinetic , right ?


yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um , so back to decisions. Energy , we've decided on kinetic , right ?


But would a backup really be necessary ? I mean will people just use the battery if there's no , if there's ,


But would a backup really be necessary ? I mean will people just use the battery if there's no , if there's ,

I think maybe we could just go for the kinetic energy ,


I think maybe we could just go for the kinetic energy ,


and hope this works , and well hope that it works.


and hope this works , and well hope that it works.

There's like no reason why it wouldn't work , right ?


There's like no reason why it wouldn't work , right ?

yeah. I think  no. I , I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential.


There's like no reason why it wouldn't work , right ?

yeah. I think  no. I , I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential.

Yeah. It could even be one of our selling points.


yeah. I think  no. I , I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential.

Yeah. It could even be one of our selling points.


Yeah. It could even be one of our selling points.


So if it's not working they just have to shake it a bit and that revitalises it ?


Alright , the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means.


Alright , the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means.

Um , it was whether we went for the simple , the regular , or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have , so


Alright , the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means.

Um , it was whether we went for the simple , the regular , or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have , so

Right , and we were going for more simplistic style , right ?


Um , it was whether we went for the simple , the regular , or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have , so

Right , and we were going for more simplistic style , right ?


Right , and we were going for more simplistic style , right ?

so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not doing the advanced.


so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not doing the advanced.


so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not doing the advanced.

So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons.


so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not doing the advanced.

So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons.

I think we decided on the pushbuttons , right ?


So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons.

I think we decided on the pushbuttons , right ?


I think we decided on the pushbuttons , right ?


Would we need a more advanced one for uh the lighting , the interior lighting system ?


Would we need a more advanced one for uh the lighting , the interior lighting system ?

So , it's probably gonna be the regular chip that we're going to need.


So , it's probably gonna be the regular chip that we're going to need.


because of the lighting that we've decided to put in as well.


because of the lighting that we've decided to put in as well.

Okay , and cases. Um , does this , is this dependent on shape , or what it's made of , or what ?


because of the lighting that we've decided to put in as well.

Okay , and cases. Um , does this , is this dependent on shape , or what it's made of , or what ?

So th I think this is just like gonna be the  a very outer case , which we will decide on rubber.


Okay , and cases. Um , does this , is this dependent on shape , or what it's made of , or what ?

So th I think this is just like gonna be the  a very outer case , which we will decide on rubber.


Okay , and cases. Um , does this , is this dependent on shape , or what it's made of , or what ?

So th I think this is just like gonna be the  a very outer case , which we will decide on rubber.

Yeah. Well , I guess plastic and coated in rubber.


So th I think this is just like gonna be the  a very outer case , which we will decide on rubber.

Yeah. Well , I guess plastic and coated in rubber.


Yeah. Well , I guess plastic and coated in rubber.


Interchangeable , yeah. Still going for that.


Interchangeable , yeah. Still going for that.

Okay. User interface concept. This is your time to shine.


Okay. User interface concept. This is your time to shine.

We decided on the component. I , I I'm sorry , I've lost my um  PowerPoint thing , so I can't remember what it's ca it's the component


We decided on the component. I , I I'm sorry , I've lost my um  PowerPoint thing , so I can't remember what it's ca it's the component


Alright , and supplements. What's that all about ?


Alright , and supplements. What's that all about ?

well we haven't really made any decisions about what we're gonna do about the cluster of button functions , colours and forms , in the  in consistent use. Like what what are ideas to combat these problems ?


well we haven't really made any decisions about what we're gonna do about the cluster of button functions , colours and forms , in the  in consistent use. Like what what are ideas to combat these problems ?

You know how um different interfaces are very different , and can be confusing because because of their difference , and because of the different clusters of buttons that they have.


You know how um different interfaces are very different , and can be confusing because because of their difference , and because of the different clusters of buttons that they have.

We haven't really decided what to do about that.


We haven't really decided what to do about that.

Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have ?


We haven't really decided what to do about that.

Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have ?

You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels , and we'll have the channel-changer , and volume , and power ?


Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have ?

You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels , and we'll have the channel-changer , and volume , and power ?


You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels , and we'll have the channel-changer , and volume , and power ?


So pretty  just just the basic button functions.


So pretty  just just the basic button functions.

Yeah. Like I don't know if we should go into like adjusting light levels , things like that , because different televisions will have


Yeah. Like I don't know if we should go into like adjusting light levels , things like that , because different televisions will have

Tone , contrast , and things. That's a bit


Tone , contrast , and things. That's a bit

That was on , um one of my presentations. About how often it was used.


That was on , um one of my presentations. About how often it was used.


Yeah. And most televisions will come with a remote.


Yeah. And most televisions will come with a remote.

Yeah. That would be good. Yeah , and surely that would be like quite specific to the individual television ,


Yeah. That would be good. Yeah , and surely that would be like quite specific to the individual television ,


The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every  once every two hours. Um , and it was considered a one point five relevance , on a scale of ten. That's brightness , colour , tone , all that.


The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every  once every two hours. Um , and it was considered a one point five relevance , on a scale of ten. That's brightness , colour , tone , all that.

Mm. I think most of that comes like on the i individual television set itself ,


The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every  once every two hours. Um , and it was considered a one point five relevance , on a scale of ten. That's brightness , colour , tone , all that.

Mm. I think most of that comes like on the i individual television set itself ,

doesn't it ? I'm sure it has its own buttons , so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote.


Mm. I think most of that comes like on the i individual television set itself ,

doesn't it ? I'm sure it has its own buttons , so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote.


doesn't it ? I'm sure it has its own buttons , so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote.


Like we , I don't know if we can make a remote that would be universal to all the different kinds of


Like we , I don't know if we can make a remote that would be universal to all the different kinds of

So we're just going for power , channels , volume ,


So we're just going for power , channels , volume ,


So we're just going for power , channels , volume ,

The other one was audio settings. Mono , stereo , pitch. I mean I sometimes use that. Some T_V_s will have the option of like living room style , movie style , um


The other one was audio settings. Mono , stereo , pitch. I mean I sometimes use that. Some T_V_s will have the option of like living room style , movie style , um

and that , they say that's used zero point eight times an hour , which is actually somewhat high. Like almost once an hour.


and that , they say that's used zero point eight times an hour , which is actually somewhat high. Like almost once an hour.


Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting.


Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting.

Crap. Okay , um , let's do this fast. Um


Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting.

Crap. Okay , um , let's do this fast. Um

Should we have audio ? It only comes up on mine usually.


Crap. Okay , um , let's do this fast. Um

Should we have audio ? It only comes up on mine usually.

It w  it would seem silly if we'd  having anything else , just have an audio button though.


Should we have audio ? It only comes up on mine usually.

It w  it would seem silly if we'd  having anything else , just have an audio button though.


It w  it would seem silly if we'd  having anything else , just have an audio button though.


I don't , I  it's , it's a problem with the international uh appeal , I think. Um , if we have audio because we don't know how other televisions work. But we know that everyone has this and it's the same.


I don't , I  it's , it's a problem with the international uh appeal , I think. Um , if we have audio because we don't know how other televisions work. But we know that everyone has this and it's the same.

Yeah I guess that it affects the marketing , 'cause it ,  mm it is a good sales ploy to say , aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.


Yeah I guess that it affects the marketing , 'cause it ,  mm it is a good sales ploy to say , aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.


Yeah I guess that it affects the marketing , 'cause it ,  mm it is a good sales ploy to say , aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.

This one has channel , volume and your channe and your power.


Yeah I guess that it affects the marketing , 'cause it ,  mm it is a good sales ploy to say , aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.

This one has channel , volume and your channe and your power.

Yeah , that's it. We can just go for , make it a selling point that it is just the basic.


This one has channel , volume and your channe and your power.

Yeah , that's it. We can just go for , make it a selling point that it is just the basic.


Yeah , that's it. We can just go for , make it a selling point that it is just the basic.


Good. And , okay , in closing , 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um , you'll be working , Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right ?


Good. And , okay , in closing , 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um , you'll be working , Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right ?

Yep , and um the user interface design , so this is where the trendy stuff comes in. And you'll be evaluating the product. Um , Poppy and Tara will have to work together , using modelling clay.


Good. And , okay , in closing , 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um , you'll be working , Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right ?

Yep , and um the user interface design , so this is where the trendy stuff comes in. And you'll be evaluating the product. Um , Poppy and Tara will have to work together , using modelling clay.

And , um , your personal coach will give you the rest of the information of what needs to happen.