And par yeah , and part of the system design is that if it looks to be important and you can't figure it out , then you ask.

But hopefully you don't ask you know , a all these things all the time.


But hopefully you don't ask you know , a all these things all the time.


But hopefully you don't ask you know , a all these things all the time.

Or  eh so , y but there 's th but definitely a back - off position to asking.


Or  eh so , y but there 's th but definitely a back - off position to asking.

And if no  no part of the system ever comes up with the idea that this could be important , no planner is ever gonna ask for it.


And if no  no part of the system ever comes up with the idea that this could be important , no planner is ever gonna ask for it.

y so  And I like the idea that , you know , sort of  Jerry pushed this idea from the very beginning , that it 's part of the understanding business to sort of make a good question of what 's s sort of important in this general picture , what you need t


y so  And I like the idea that , you know , sort of  Jerry pushed this idea from the very beginning , that it 's part of the understanding business to sort of make a good question of what 's s sort of important in this general picture , what you need t

If you wanna simulate it , for example , what parameters would you need for the simulation ? And , Timing , uh , uh , Length would definitely be part of it , " Costs " , " Little money , some money , lots of money " ?


If you wanna simulate it , for example , what parameters would you need for the simulation ? And , Timing , uh , uh , Length would definitely be part of it , " Costs " , " Little money , some money , lots of money " ?

Actually , maybe uh F  uh so , F Yeah , OK. Hmm ?


Actually , maybe uh F  uh so , F Yeah , OK. Hmm ?

I must say that thi this one looks a bit strange to me. Um  maybe  It seems like appropriate if I go to Las Vegas. Well  but I decide k kind of how much money uh I 'm willing to lose. But a I as a tourist , I 'll just paying what 's  what 's more or less is required.


Actually , maybe uh F  uh so , F Yeah , OK. Hmm ?

I must say that thi this one looks a bit strange to me. Um  maybe  It seems like appropriate if I go to Las Vegas. Well  but I decide k kind of how much money uh I 'm willing to lose. But a I as a tourist , I 'll just paying what 's  what 's more or less is required.

Well , no. I think there are  there 're different things where you have a ch choice ,


I must say that thi this one looks a bit strange to me. Um  maybe  It seems like appropriate if I go to Las Vegas. Well  but I decide k kind of how much money uh I 'm willing to lose. But a I as a tourist , I 'll just paying what 's  what 's more or less is required.

Well , no. I think there are  there 're different things where you have a ch choice ,


Well , no. I think there are  there 're different things where you have a ch choice ,

for example , uh this t interacts with " do am I do oh are you willing to take a taxi ? "


for example , uh this t interacts with " do am I do oh are you willing to take a taxi ? "


for example , uh this t interacts with " do am I do oh are you willing to take a taxi ? "

Or uh , you know , if  if you 're going to the opera are you gonna l look for the best seats or the peanut gallery


Or uh , you know , if  if you 're going to the opera are you gonna l look for the best seats or the peanut gallery


whatever ? S so I think there are a variety of things in which um  Tour - tourists really do have different styles eating. Another one ,


The  what  what my sort of sentiment is they 're  Well , I  I once had to write a  a  a  a charter , a carter for a  a student organization. And they had  wanted me to define what the quorum is going to be. And I looked at the other ones and they always said ten percent of the student body has to be present at their general meeting otherwise it 's not a  And I wrote in there " En - Enough " people have to be there. And it was hotly debated , but people agreed with me that everybody probably has a good feeling whether it was a farce , a joke , or whether there were enough people.


The  what  what my sort of sentiment is they 're  Well , I  I once had to write a  a  a  a charter , a carter for a  a student organization. And they had  wanted me to define what the quorum is going to be. And I looked at the other ones and they always said ten percent of the student body has to be present at their general meeting otherwise it 's not a  And I wrote in there " En - Enough " people have to be there. And it was hotly debated , but people agreed with me that everybody probably has a good feeling whether it was a farce , a joke , or whether there were enough people.

And if you go to Turkey , you will find when people go shopping , they will say " How much cheese do you want ? " and they say " Ah , enough. " And the  and the  this used all over the place. Because the person selling the cheese knows , you know , that person has two kids and you know , a husband that dislikes cheese , so this is enough.


And if you go to Turkey , you will find when people go shopping , they will say " How much cheese do you want ? " and they say " Ah , enough. " And the  and the  this used all over the place. Because the person selling the cheese knows , you know , that person has two kids and you know , a husband that dislikes cheese , so this is enough.

And um so the middle part is always sort of the  the golden way , right ? So you can s you can be really  make it as cheap as possible , or you can say " I want , er , you know , I don't care "


And um so the middle part is always sort of the  the golden way , right ? So you can s you can be really  make it as cheap as possible , or you can say " I want , er , you know , I don't care "


or you say " I just want to spend enough ".


or you say " I just want to spend enough ".

Or the sufficient , or the the appropriate amount.


Or the sufficient , or the the appropriate amount.

But , Then again , this may turn out to be insufficient for our purposes. But well , this is my first guess ,


But , Then again , this may turn out to be insufficient for our purposes. But well , this is my first guess ,

in much the same way as how  how d you know  should the route be ? Should it be the easiest route , even if it 's a b little bit longer ?


in much the same way as how  how d you know  should the route be ? Should it be the easiest route , even if it 's a b little bit longer ?

No steep inclinations ? Go the normal way ? Whatever that again means , er  or do you  does the person wanna rough it ?


in much the same way as how  how d you know  should the route be ? Should it be the easiest route , even if it 's a b little bit longer ?

No steep inclinations ? Go the normal way ? Whatever that again means , er  or do you  does the person wanna rough it ?

Mm - hmm. I mean  th so there 's a couple of different ways you can interpret these things right ? You know  " I want to go there and I don't care if it 's really hard. " Or if you 're an extreme sport person , you know. " I wanna go there and I insist on it being the hard way. "


No steep inclinations ? Go the normal way ? Whatever that again means , er  or do you  does the person wanna rough it ?

Mm - hmm. I mean  th so there 's a couple of different ways you can interpret these things right ? You know  " I want to go there and I don't care if it 's really hard. " Or if you 're an extreme sport person , you know. " I wanna go there and I insist on it being the hard way. "


No steep inclinations ? Go the normal way ? Whatever that again means , er  or do you  does the person wanna rough it ?

Mm - hmm. I mean  th so there 's a couple of different ways you can interpret these things right ? You know  " I want to go there and I don't care if it 's really hard. " Or if you 're an extreme sport person , you know. " I wanna go there and I insist on it being the hard way. "

Right ? you know , so I assume we 're going for the first interpretation ,


Mm - hmm. I mean  th so there 's a couple of different ways you can interpret these things right ? You know  " I want to go there and I don't care if it 's really hard. " Or if you 're an extreme sport person , you know. " I wanna go there and I insist on it being the hard way. "

Right ? you know , so I assume we 're going for the first interpretation ,


Right ? you know , so I assume we 're going for the first interpretation ,

right ? Something like  I 'll go th I mean  I 'd li I dunno. It 's different from thing to


Right ? you know , so I assume we 're going for the first interpretation ,

right ? Something like  I 'll go th I mean  I 'd li I dunno. It 's different from thing to

No , I think he was going for the second one ar actually.


right ? Something like  I 'll go th I mean  I 'd li I dunno. It 's different from thing to

No , I think he was going for the second one ar actually.


right ? Something like  I 'll go th I mean  I 'd li I dunno. It 's different from thing to

No , I think he was going for the second one ar actually.

Anyway , we 'll sort th yeah , we 'll sort that out.


No , I think he was going for the second one ar actually.

Anyway , we 'll sort th yeah , we 'll sort that out.


Anyway , we 'll sort th yeah , we 'll sort that out.


Well , this is all sort of um , top of my head.


Well , this is all sort of um , top of my head.

No  no research behind that. Um  " Object information " , " Do I  do I wanna know anything about that object ? " is either true or false. And. if I care about it being open , accessible or not , I don't think there 's any middle ground there. Um , either I wanna know where it is or not , I wanna know about it 's history or not , or , um I wanna know about what it 's good for or not. Maybe one could put scales in there , too. So I wanna know a l lot about it.


Well , this is all sort of um , top of my head.

No  no research behind that. Um  " Object information " , " Do I  do I wanna know anything about that object ? " is either true or false. And. if I care about it being open , accessible or not , I don't think there 's any middle ground there. Um , either I wanna know where it is or not , I wanna know about it 's history or not , or , um I wanna know about what it 's good for or not. Maybe one could put scales in there , too. So I wanna know a l lot about it.

Yeah , now ob OK , I 'm sorry , go ahead , what were you gonna say ?


No  no research behind that. Um  " Object information " , " Do I  do I wanna know anything about that object ? " is either true or false. And. if I care about it being open , accessible or not , I don't think there 's any middle ground there. Um , either I wanna know where it is or not , I wanna know about it 's history or not , or , um I wanna know about what it 's good for or not. Maybe one could put scales in there , too. So I wanna know a l lot about it.

Yeah , now ob OK , I 'm sorry , go ahead , what were you gonna say ?

One could put scales in there. So I wanna know a lot about the history , just a bit.


No  no research behind that. Um  " Object information " , " Do I  do I wanna know anything about that object ? " is either true or false. And. if I care about it being open , accessible or not , I don't think there 's any middle ground there. Um , either I wanna know where it is or not , I wanna know about it 's history or not , or , um I wanna know about what it 's good for or not. Maybe one could put scales in there , too. So I wanna know a l lot about it.

Yeah , now ob OK , I 'm sorry , go ahead , what were you gonna say ?

One could put scales in there. So I wanna know a lot about the history , just a bit.

Yeah , right well y i w if we  w right. So " object " becomes " entity " , right ?


Yeah , now ob OK , I 'm sorry , go ahead , what were you gonna say ?

One could put scales in there. So I wanna know a lot about the history , just a bit.

Yeah , right well y i w if we  w right. So " object " becomes " entity " , right ?


One could put scales in there. So I wanna know a lot about the history , just a bit.

Yeah , right well y i w if we  w right. So " object " becomes " entity " , right ?


Yeah , right well y i w if we  w right. So " object " becomes " entity " , right ?

Yep. That was the wrong shortcut anyhow.


Yep. That was the wrong shortcut anyhow.

And we think that 's it , interestingly enough , that um , you know , th or  or  or something very close to it is going to be uh  going to be enough. And


And we think that 's it , interestingly enough , that um , you know , th or  or  or something very close to it is going to be uh  going to be enough. And


Alright , so um  So I think the order of things is that um , Robert will clean this up a little bit , although it looks pretty good. And


Yeah , so  right , so  So , um In parallel , uh  three things are going to happen. Uh Robert and Eva and Bhaskara are gonna actually  build a belief - net that  that , um , has CPT 's and , you know , tries to infer this from various kinds of information. And Fey is going to start collecting data , and we 're gonna start thinking a about  uh  what constructions we want to elicit. And then w go it may iterate on uh , further data collection to elicit


Yeah , so  right , so  So , um In parallel , uh  three things are going to happen. Uh Robert and Eva and Bhaskara are gonna actually  build a belief - net that  that , um , has CPT 's and , you know , tries to infer this from various kinds of information. And Fey is going to start collecting data , and we 're gonna start thinking a about  uh  what constructions we want to elicit. And then w go it may iterate on uh , further data collection to elicit

D Do you mean  Do you mean eliciting particular constructions ? Or do you mean like what kinds of things we want to get people talking about ? Semantically speaking , eh ?


D Do you mean  Do you mean eliciting particular constructions ? Or do you mean like what kinds of things we want to get people talking about ? Semantically speaking , eh ?

Both. Uh , and  Though for us , constructions are primarily semantic , right ?


Both. Uh , and  Though for us , constructions are primarily semantic , right ?


Both. Uh , and  Though for us , constructions are primarily semantic , right ?

I mean from my point of view I 'm  I 'm trying to care about the syntax , so you know


I mean from my point of view I 'm  I 'm trying to care about the syntax , so you know


I mean from my point of view I 'm  I 'm trying to care about the syntax , so you know

but um  You know if th if we in  if we you know , make sure that we get them talking about temporal order.


but um  You know if th if we in  if we you know , make sure that we get them talking about temporal order.


but um  You know if th if we in  if we you know , make sure that we get them talking about temporal order.

OK , that would be great and if th if they use prepositional phrases or subordinate clauses or whatever ,


OK , that would be great and if th if they use prepositional phrases or subordinate clauses or whatever ,

um  W You know , whatever form they use is fine.


um  W You know , whatever form they use is fine.

But I  I think that probably we 're gonna try to look at it as you know , s what semantic constructions d do we  do we want them to uh do direc


But I  I think that probably we 're gonna try to look at it as you know , s what semantic constructions d do we  do we want them to uh do direc

you know , um , " Caused motion " , I don't know , something like that.


you know , um , " Caused motion " , I don't know , something like that.

Uh But , Eh - uh this is actually a conversation you and I have to have about your thesis fantasies , and how all this fits into that.


Uh But , Eh - uh this is actually a conversation you and I have to have about your thesis fantasies , and how all this fits into that.


Uh But , Eh - uh this is actually a conversation you and I have to have about your thesis fantasies , and how all this fits into that.

Well , I will tell you the German tourist data.


Well , I will tell you the German tourist data.


Well , I will tell you the German tourist data.

Because I have not been able to dig out all the stuff out of the m ta thirty D V


Because I have not been able to dig out all the stuff out of the m ta thirty D V


Because I have not been able to dig out all the stuff out of the m ta thirty D V

Is that roughly the equivalent of  of what I 've seen in English or is it


Is that roughly the equivalent of  of what I 've seen in English or is it


OK. Same  OK , that. Got it. Like what  What have I got now ? I mean I have uh what  what I 'm loo what I  Those files that you sent me are the user side of some interaction with Fey ?


Just talking into a box and not hearing anything back.


Yep. Some data I collected in a couple weeks for training recognizers and email way back when.


And um  the  see this  this  this  uh  ontology node is probably something that I will try to expand. Once we have the full ontology API , what can we expect to get from the ontology ? And hopefully you can sort of also try to find out , you know , sooner or later in the course of the summer what we can expect to get from the discourse that might , you know  or the


And um  the  see this  this  this  uh  ontology node is probably something that I will try to expand. Once we have the full ontology API , what can we expect to get from the ontology ? And hopefully you can sort of also try to find out , you know , sooner or later in the course of the summer what we can expect to get from the discourse that might , you know  or the

not the discourse , the utterance as it were , uh ,


not the discourse , the utterance as it were , uh ,


Right , but we 're not expecting Keith to actually build a parser.


Right , but we 're not expecting Keith to actually build a parser.

OK. We are expecting Johno to build a parser ,


OK. We are expecting Johno to build a parser ,


No. Uh  He 's g he 's hoping to do this for his masters ' thesis s by a year from now.


No. Uh  He 's g he 's hoping to do this for his masters ' thesis s by a year from now.

Right. Hmm. Still , pretty formidable actually.


No. Uh  He 's g he 's hoping to do this for his masters ' thesis s by a year from now.

Right. Hmm. Still , pretty formidable actually.

Eh - absolutely. Uh  limited. I mean , you know , the idea is  is ,


Right. Hmm. Still , pretty formidable actually.

Eh - absolutely. Uh  limited. I mean , you know , the idea is  is ,


Right. Hmm. Still , pretty formidable actually.

Eh - absolutely. Uh  limited. I mean , you know , the idea is  is ,

Well , the hope is that the parser itself is , uh , pretty robust. But it 's not popular  it 's only p only


Eh - absolutely. Uh  limited. I mean , you know , the idea is  is ,

Well , the hope is that the parser itself is , uh , pretty robust. But it 's not popular  it 's only p only

Right , Right. Existence proof , you know. Set up the infrastructure ,


Well , the hope is that the parser itself is , uh , pretty robust. But it 's not popular  it 's only p only

Right , Right. Existence proof , you know. Set up the infrastructure ,


Right , Right. Existence proof , you know. Set up the infrastructure ,


Um sometime , I have to talk to some subset of the people in this group , at least about um what sort of constructions I 'm looking for. I mean , you know obviously like just again , looking at this one uh thing , you know , I saw y things from  sort of as general as argument structure constructions. Oh , you know , I have to do Verb Phrase. I have to do uh  uh  unbounded dependencies , you know , which have a variety of constructions in  uh  uh  instantiate that. On the other hand I have to have , you know , there 's particular uh , fixed expressions , or semi - fixed expressions like " Get " plus path expression for , you know , " how d ho how do I get there ? " ,


Um sometime , I have to talk to some subset of the people in this group , at least about um what sort of constructions I 'm looking for. I mean , you know obviously like just again , looking at this one uh thing , you know , I saw y things from  sort of as general as argument structure constructions. Oh , you know , I have to do Verb Phrase. I have to do uh  uh  unbounded dependencies , you know , which have a variety of constructions in  uh  uh  instantiate that. On the other hand I have to have , you know , there 's particular uh , fixed expressions , or semi - fixed expressions like " Get " plus path expression for , you know , " how d ho how do I get there ? " ,

" How do I get in ? " , " How do I get away ? "


" How do I get in ? " , " How do I get away ? "

and all that kind of stuff. Um , so there 's a variety of sort of different sorts of constructions


and all that kind of stuff. Um , so there 's a variety of sort of different sorts of constructions

and it  you know it 's  it 's sort of like anything goes. Like


and all that kind of stuff. Um , so there 's a variety of sort of different sorts of constructions

and it  you know it 's  it 's sort of like anything goes. Like

OK , so this is  I think we 're gonna mainly work on with George.


and it  you know it 's  it 's sort of like anything goes. Like

OK , so this is  I think we 're gonna mainly work on with George.


and it  you know it 's  it 's sort of like anything goes. Like

OK , so this is  I think we 're gonna mainly work on with George.

OK , and hi let me f th  say what I think is  is  so the idea is  uh  first of all I misspoke when I said we thought you should do the constructions. Cause apparently for a linguist that means to do completely and perfectly. So what I  yeah , OK ,  So what  what I meant was " Do a first cut at ".


OK , so this is  I think we 're gonna mainly work on with George.

OK , and hi let me f th  say what I think is  is  so the idea is  uh  first of all I misspoke when I said we thought you should do the constructions. Cause apparently for a linguist that means to do completely and perfectly. So what I  yeah , OK ,  So what  what I meant was " Do a first cut at ".


OK , and hi let me f th  say what I think is  is  so the idea is  uh  first of all I misspoke when I said we thought you should do the constructions. Cause apparently for a linguist that means to do completely and perfectly. So what I  yeah , OK ,  So what  what I meant was " Do a first cut at ".

OK , Because uh  we do wanna get them r u perfectly  but I think we 're gonna have to do a first cut at a lot of them to see how they interact.


OK , and hi let me f th  say what I think is  is  so the idea is  uh  first of all I misspoke when I said we thought you should do the constructions. Cause apparently for a linguist that means to do completely and perfectly. So what I  yeah , OK ,  So what  what I meant was " Do a first cut at ".

OK , Because uh  we do wanna get them r u perfectly  but I think we 're gonna have to do a first cut at a lot of them to see how they interact.

Of course. Right , exactly. Now it  w we talked about this before , right. And I  I me it would it would be completely out of the question to really do more than , say , like , oh I don't know , ten , over the summer ,


OK , Because uh  we do wanna get them r u perfectly  but I think we 're gonna have to do a first cut at a lot of them to see how they interact.

Of course. Right , exactly. Now it  w we talked about this before , right. And I  I me it would it would be completely out of the question to really do more than , say , like , oh I don't know , ten , over the summer ,


OK , Because uh  we do wanna get them r u perfectly  but I think we 're gonna have to do a first cut at a lot of them to see how they interact.

Of course. Right , exactly. Now it  w we talked about this before , right. And I  I me it would it would be completely out of the question to really do more than , say , like , oh I don't know , ten , over the summer ,

but uh , but you know obviously we need to get sort of a general view of what things look like , so yeah.


Of course. Right , exactly. Now it  w we talked about this before , right. And I  I me it would it would be completely out of the question to really do more than , say , like , oh I don't know , ten , over the summer ,

but uh , but you know obviously we need to get sort of a general view of what things look like , so yeah.

Right. So the idea is going to be to do  sort of like Nancy did in some of the er these papers where you do enough of them so you can go from top to bottom  so you can do f you know , f f uh  have a complete story ov of s of some piece of dialogue.


but uh , but you know obviously we need to get sort of a general view of what things look like , so yeah.

Right. So the idea is going to be to do  sort of like Nancy did in some of the er these papers where you do enough of them so you can go from top to bottom  so you can do f you know , f f uh  have a complete story ov of s of some piece of dialogue.


but uh , but you know obviously we need to get sort of a general view of what things look like , so yeah.

Right. So the idea is going to be to do  sort of like Nancy did in some of the er these papers where you do enough of them so you can go from top to bottom  so you can do f you know , f f uh  have a complete story ov of s of some piece of dialogue.

And that 's gonna be much more useful than having all of the clausal constructions and nothing else , or  or  or something like that.


Right. So the idea is going to be to do  sort of like Nancy did in some of the er these papers where you do enough of them so you can go from top to bottom  so you can do f you know , f f uh  have a complete story ov of s of some piece of dialogue.

And that 's gonna be much more useful than having all of the clausal constructions and nothing else , or  or  or something like that.


And that 's gonna be much more useful than having all of the clausal constructions and nothing else , or  or  or something like that.

So that the  the trick is going to be t to take this and pick a  some sort of lattice of constructions ,


So that the  the trick is going to be t to take this and pick a  some sort of lattice of constructions ,

so some lexical and some phrasal , and  and , you know ,


so some lexical and some phrasal , and  and , you know ,

whatever you need in order to uh , be able to then , uh , by hand , you know , explain , some fraction of the utterances.


whatever you need in order to uh , be able to then , uh , by hand , you know , explain , some fraction of the utterances.

And so , exactly which ones will partly depend on your research interests and a bunch of other things.


whatever you need in order to uh , be able to then , uh , by hand , you know , explain , some fraction of the utterances.

And so , exactly which ones will partly depend on your research interests and a bunch of other things.

Mm - hmm. Sure. OK. But I mean in terms of the s th sort of level of uh  of analysis , you know , these don't necessarily have to be more complex than like the " Out of " construction in the BCP paper where it 's just like , you know , half a page on each one or something.


And so , exactly which ones will partly depend on your research interests and a bunch of other things.

Mm - hmm. Sure. OK. But I mean in terms of the s th sort of level of uh  of analysis , you know , these don't necessarily have to be more complex than like the " Out of " construction in the BCP paper where it 's just like , you know , half a page on each one or something.

Correct. Oh yeah  yeah. V a half a page is  is what we 'd like.


Mm - hmm. Sure. OK. But I mean in terms of the s th sort of level of uh  of analysis , you know , these don't necessarily have to be more complex than like the " Out of " construction in the BCP paper where it 's just like , you know , half a page on each one or something.

Correct. Oh yeah  yeah. V a half a page is  is what we 'd like.

And if  if there 's something that really requires a lot more than that then it does and we have to do it ,


Correct. Oh yeah  yeah. V a half a page is  is what we 'd like.

And if  if there 's something that really requires a lot more than that then it does and we have to do it ,


And if  if there 's something that really requires a lot more than that then it does and we have to do it ,


And if  if there 's something that really requires a lot more than that then it does and we have to do it ,

For the first cut , that should be fine , yeah.


For the first cut , that should be fine , yeah.


For the first cut , that should be fine , yeah.

We could sit down and think of sort of the  the ideal speaker utterances ,


We could sit down and think of sort of the  the ideal speaker utterances ,

and I mean two or three that follow each other , so , where we can also sort of , once we have everything up and running , show the tremendous , insane inferencing capabilities of our system.


and I mean two or three that follow each other , so , where we can also sort of , once we have everything up and running , show the tremendous , insane inferencing capabilities of our system.

So , you know , as  as the SmartKom people have. This is sort of their standard demo dialogue , which is , you know , what the system survives and nothing but that.


So , you know , as  as the SmartKom people have. This is sort of their standard demo dialogue , which is , you know , what the system survives and nothing but that.

Um , we could also sor sort of have the analogen of o our sample sentences , the ideal sentences where we have complete construction coverage and , sort of , they match nicely.


Um , we could also sor sort of have the analogen of o our sample sentences , the ideal sentences where we have complete construction coverage and , sort of , they match nicely.


you know , that 's definitely gonna be uh , a major one.


you know , that 's definitely gonna be uh , a major one.

Yeah. That 's about six times in this little one here , so uh ,  yeah.


Yeah. That 's about six times in this little one here , so uh ,  yeah.

" Where is X ? " might be another one which is not too complicated.


" Where is X ? " might be another one which is not too complicated.


And hey , that 's  that 's already covering eighty percent of the system 's functionality.


And hey , that 's  that 's already covering eighty percent of the system 's functionality.

Ye - Right , but it 's not covering eighty percent of the intellectual interest.


And hey , that 's  that 's already covering eighty percent of the system 's functionality.

Ye - Right , but it 's not covering eighty percent of the intellectual interest.

No , we can w throw in an " Out of Film " construction if you want to , but


Ye - Right , but it 's not covering eighty percent of the intellectual interest.

No , we can w throw in an " Out of Film " construction if you want to , but

No , no , no. Well the  th the thing is there 's a lot that needs to be done to get this right.


No , we can w throw in an " Out of Film " construction if you want to , but

No , no , no. Well the  th the thing is there 's a lot that needs to be done to get this right.


No , no , no. Well the  th the thing is there 's a lot that needs to be done to get this right.


Um , the action planner guy has wrote  has written a  a p lengthy  proposal on how he wants to do the action planning.


Um , the action planner guy has wrote  has written a  a p lengthy  proposal on how he wants to do the action planning.

And I responded to him , also rather lengthy , how he should do the action planning. And


Um , the action planner guy has wrote  has written a  a p lengthy  proposal on how he wants to do the action planning.

And I responded to him , also rather lengthy , how he should do the action planning. And

" Action planning " meaning " Discourse Modeling " ?


And I responded to him , also rather lengthy , how he should do the action planning. And

" Action planning " meaning " Discourse Modeling " ?

Yes. And I tacked on a little paragraph about the fact that the whole world calls that module a dis disc dialogue manager ,


" Action planning " meaning " Discourse Modeling " ?

Yes. And I tacked on a little paragraph about the fact that the whole world calls that module a dis disc dialogue manager ,

and wouldn't it make sense to do this here too ?


Yes. And I tacked on a little paragraph about the fact that the whole world calls that module a dis disc dialogue manager ,

and wouldn't it make sense to do this here too ?


and wouldn't it make sense to do this here too ?

And also Rainer M Malaka is going to be visiting us shortly , most likely in the beginning of June.


And also Rainer M Malaka is going to be visiting us shortly , most likely in the beginning of June.

Yeah. He - he 's just in a conference somewhere and he is just swinging through town.


Yeah. He - he 's just in a conference somewhere and he is just swinging through town.

And um  m making me incapable of going to NAACL , for which I had funding. But. No , no Pittsburg this year.


And um  m making me incapable of going to NAACL , for which I had funding. But. No , no Pittsburg this year.


And um  m making me incapable of going to NAACL , for which I had funding. But. No , no Pittsburg this year.

Who is going to ? uh should a lot of people. That 's something I will  would  sort of enjoy.


Who is going to ? uh should a lot of people. That 's something I will  would  sort of enjoy.

Probably should go. That was  that 's one you should probably go to.


Probably should go. That was  that 's one you should probably go to.


Um a student rate shouldn't be very high. So , if we all decide it 's a good idea for you to go then you 'll  we 'll pay for it.


Um a student rate shouldn't be very high. So , if we all decide it 's a good idea for you to go then you 'll  we 'll pay for it.

I mean I  I don't have a feeling one way or the other at the moment ,


I mean I  I don't have a feeling one way or the other at the moment ,


I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting.


I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting.

Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype.


I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting.

Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype.

Then um  I guess that's your bit ? I I didn't s see anything about it ,


Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype.

Then um  I guess that's your bit ? I I didn't s see anything about it ,


Then um  I guess that's your bit ? I I didn't s see anything about it ,

so  I already uh thought you uh you were  to do that.


so  I already uh thought you uh you were  to do that.

I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this uh design.


I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this uh design.


I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this uh design.

And then we'll evaluate , after after we have redesigned it.


And then we'll evaluate , after after we have redesigned it.


And then we'll evaluate , after after we have redesigned it.

Because uh well we'll see about the costs. Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close.


Because uh well we'll see about the costs. Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close.

Well the finance uh we'll do later , so um firstly uh  I'll show you the notes.  I don't think it's very interesting.


Well the finance uh we'll do later , so um firstly uh  I'll show you the notes.  I don't think it's very interesting.

Oh nei. Uh no.  Alright. This is copy paste. So


Oh nei. Uh no.  Alright. This is copy paste. So

Of course. You had some very strange layout.


Oh nei. Uh no.  Alright. This is copy paste. So

Of course. You had some very strange layout.

Well from us all , yeah , from all of us. Yeah.  It's a nice chorus , yeah.


Of course. You had some very strange layout.

Well from us all , yeah , from all of us. Yeah.  It's a nice chorus , yeah.


Well from us all , yeah , from all of us. Yeah.  It's a nice chorus , yeah.

and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again.


and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again.


and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again.

So uh  This is what we decided. It's also copy paste from what we made together. So we still know that.


So uh  This is what we decided. It's also copy paste from what we made together. So we still know that.

And then uh we can we can uh use the time better. Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us.


And then uh we can we can uh use the time better. Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us.


Alright. If I make mistakes uh you'll uh


Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting. With uh the different uh perspectives of it. Uh we'll begin uh with the front. We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape. Um with uh the upper part being the front. Th So there's this part um  which is made of hard plastic , the front. And uh we're we're using different colours. Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours ,


Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting. With uh the different uh perspectives of it. Uh we'll begin uh with the front. We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape. Um with uh the upper part being the front. Th So there's this part um  which is made of hard plastic , the front. And uh we're we're using different colours. Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours ,

and later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns and pictures and everything.


and later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns and pictures and everything.

But basically , different colours , bright colours not black , too dark. Fancy colours.  Um then we have uh the lower part  of the of the device. Uh which is of course um part of the back actually , because it's also titanium. You can see it also on the on the on the side view , that only this part is the front , and the rest of it , the under uh the under side uh of it , yeah , the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium , and has the titanium colour of course , the look. Um then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner ,


But basically , different colours , bright colours not black , too dark. Fancy colours.  Um then we have uh the lower part  of the of the device. Uh which is of course um part of the back actually , because it's also titanium. You can see it also on the on the on the side view , that only this part is the front , and the rest of it , the under uh the under side uh of it , yeah , the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium , and has the titanium colour of course , the look. Um then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner ,

uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back , part of the titanium uh titanium part.


uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back , part of the titanium uh titanium part.


But  it's very difficult to to draw that in  Yeah.


But  it's very difficult to to draw that in  Yeah.

Uh uh it's difficult to draw so small , but it's our double R_ uh logo is in there.


Uh uh it's difficult to draw so small , but it's our double R_ uh logo is in there.

Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round  I think oval will be better for the for the d for the different uh channel buttons.


Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round  I think oval will be better for the for the d for the different uh channel buttons.


Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round  I think oval will be better for the for the d for the different uh channel buttons.

So  uh oval , n those are here. And then we have the m The m


So  uh oval , n those are here. And then we have the m The m


So  uh oval , n those are here. And then we have the m The m

Yeah the the con the the the , yeah , the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes , which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh  uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle of the of the operators , of the channel and uh volume um changers.


Yeah the the con the the the , yeah , the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes , which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh  uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle of the of the operators , of the channel and uh volume um changers.


Yeah the the con the the the , yeah , the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes , which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh  uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle of the of the operators , of the channel and uh volume um changers.

And then we've here the Menu button and the


And then we've here the Menu button and the


Yeah. And of course this low part , this is the L_C_D_ screen.


Yeah. And of course this low part , this is the L_C_D_ screen.

Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh if you want.


Yeah. And of course this low part , this is the L_C_D_ screen.

Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh if you want.

Well if I look at it , the side the side view


Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh if you want.

Well if I look at it , the side the side view


Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh if you want.

Well if I look at it , the side the side view

Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our talk


Well if I look at it , the side the side view

Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our talk


Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our talk


Maybe I I don't want to   I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick.


Maybe I I don't want to   I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick.

Um okay I've had everything I guess on the front ?


Maybe I I don't want to   I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick.

Um okay I've had everything I guess on the front ?

No the back. With the logo and our uh l uh


Maybe I I don't want to   I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick.

Um okay I've had everything I guess on the front ?

No the back. With the logo and our uh l uh

Yeah the back. Yeah.  We thought about  Yeah , uh the back is of course totally titanium.  And we thought about the logo big in the middle.


Um okay I've had everything I guess on the front ?

No the back. With the logo and our uh l uh

Yeah the back. Yeah.  We thought about  Yeah , uh the back is of course totally titanium.  And we thought about the logo big in the middle.


No the back. With the logo and our uh l uh

Yeah the back. Yeah.  We thought about  Yeah , uh the back is of course totally titanium.  And we thought about the logo big in the middle.

Just so again the double R_. We have then the logo on front and on the back.


Yeah the back. Yeah.  We thought about  Yeah , uh the back is of course totally titanium.  And we thought about the logo big in the middle.

Just so again the double R_. We have then the logo on front and on the back.


Just so again the double R_. We have then the logo on front and on the back.


but you have to say uh say that if you think that way.


but you have to say uh say that if you think that way.

And the company slogan , we thought in a kind of arc shape uh above the logo.


And the company slogan , we thought in a kind of arc shape uh above the logo.


And the company slogan , we thought in a kind of arc shape uh above the logo.

That's basically what we were thinking about ,


That's basically what we were thinking about ,


That's basically what we were thinking about ,

And about the side view um  This the front won't be as thick ,


And about the side view um  This the front won't be as thick ,

but again th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to to really uh


And about the side view um  This the front won't be as thick ,

but again th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to to really uh

Oh and uh before I forget. Yeah the the voice , of course ,


but again th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to to really uh

Oh and uh before I forget. Yeah the the voice , of course ,


Oh and uh before I forget. Yeah the the voice , of course ,


And you can record it uh using , yeah , the the the back of the f w device.


And you can record it uh using , yeah , the the the back of the f w device.

When I look at uh when I look at this side view , I think w when I have that in my hand , it's terrible.


And you can record it uh using , yeah , the the the back of the f w device.

When I look at uh when I look at this side view , I think w when I have that in my hand , it's terrible.

If if you look if if this this is thick , and this is thin , th th then it that it lies over your hands. But


When I look at uh when I look at this side view , I think w when I have that in my hand , it's terrible.

If if you look if if this this is thick , and this is thin , th th then it that it lies over your hands. But

Why ?  Well it fits uh it it it it fits the hand ,


If if you look if if this this is thick , and this is thin , th th then it that it lies over your hands. But

Why ?  Well it fits uh it it it it fits the hand ,


Why ?  Well it fits uh it it it it fits the hand ,

Well what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle , so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker , so th then it falls over your hands.


Well what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle , so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker , so th then it falls over your hands.


Well what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle , so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker , so th then it falls over your hands.

If y  If you handle a remote , you you usually don't have your hand straight like this.


If y  If you handle a remote , you you usually don't have your hand straight like this.


If y  If you handle a remote , you you usually don't have your hand straight like this.

It depends on the size. If it's kinda small , this is is great. But if it's it's larger , then you want to grab it.


It depends on the size. If it's kinda small , this is is great. But if it's it's larger , then you want to grab it.


Uh well  Yeah. H What do you suggest I mean we do ?  This was Mike's prototype ,


Uh well  Yeah. H What do you suggest I mean we do ?  This was Mike's prototype ,

Well the sides I haven't seen yet , uh  ?


Well the sides I haven't seen yet , uh  ?


Well the sides I haven't seen yet , uh  ?

The size ? Yeah well the size doesn't really matter w I mean


The size ? Yeah well the size doesn't really matter w I mean


but you d you weren't paying attention as usual.


but you d you weren't paying attention as usual.

Well any case , we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea .


but you d you weren't paying attention as usual.

Well any case , we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea .

Yeah , I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this , and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle , your hand might be over it.


Well any case , we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea .

Yeah , I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this , and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle , your hand might be over it.


Yeah , I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this , and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle , your hand might be over it.


You're not holding it like this or something.


You're not holding it like this or something.

You , yeah , y How do you call it ? Yeah.


You , yeah , y How do you call it ? Yeah.


You you you're using buttons this way , or if you're right-handed , this way.


Because if you have a screen on it , you wanna look at your screen.


Because if you have a screen on it , you wanna look at your screen.

Hmm. That way , it it falls into your hand. I think.


Hmm. That way , it it falls into your hand. I think.

And maybe you can you can grab it a bit higher ,


And maybe you can you can grab it a bit higher ,


And maybe you can you can grab it a bit higher ,

No , I don't think so. That's not uh the point


No , I don't think so. That's not uh the point


No , I don't think so. That's not uh the point

Well the the  Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side , but


No , I don't think so. That's not uh the point

Well the the  Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side , but

Well f for as far as I can see , three of us agree


Well the the  Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side , but

Well f for as far as I can see , three of us agree


Well f for as far as I can see , three of us agree

uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it.


uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it.

But you're the Project Manager , you can make the hard decisions.


But you're the Project Manager , you can make the hard decisions.


Alright , if you think that that's the way it should


Alright , if you think that that's the way it should

Y Yeah , y y y y you said it was totally uh unusable.


Y Yeah , y y y y you said it was totally uh unusable.


Y Yeah , y y y y you said it was totally uh unusable.

when I I my personal taste is that I want it to fall over my hands with a thick  But  In the market uh


when I I my personal taste is that I want it to fall over my hands with a thick  But  In the market uh

But d you don't think this is completely unusable I guess. I think.


But d you don't think this is completely unusable I guess. I think.

For me , I I wouldn't buy it. Let's say it like that.


For me , I I wouldn't buy it. Let's say it like that.

Yeah but of course y you are also human. We have to take uh  every everyone into account. So


For me , I I wouldn't buy it. Let's say it like that.

Yeah but of course y you are also human. We have to take uh  every everyone into account. So

And you might be uh  You might be target customer.


Yeah but of course y you are also human. We have to take uh  every everyone into account. So

And you might be uh  You might be target customer.


And you might be uh  You might be target customer.


but that's uh that's that's that's more market research.


but that's uh that's that's that's more market research.

So  let it be like this at uh at this moment.


So  let it be like this at uh at this moment.


Um you. Uh c You can uh   Walter.  You can do the evaluation uh criteria on this ?


I'm going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria.


I'm going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria.

So I made a  I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and trends.


I'm going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria.

So I made a  I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and trends.

And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well , I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm.


So I made a  I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and trends.

And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well , I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm.


And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well , I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm.


I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation , so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is , uh is the device good-looking ? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think ?


I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation , so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is , uh is the device good-looking ? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think ?

Well d we designed it , so of course we are very


I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation , so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is , uh is the device good-looking ? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think ?

Well d we designed it , so of course we are very

Yeah , we're we're not quite uh objective about this.


Well d we designed it , so of course we are very

Yeah , we're we're not quite uh objective about this.


Yeah , we're we're not quite uh objective about this.


No , I know , but  I have to uh evaluate it. So I have to take this questionnaire.


No , I know , but  I have to uh evaluate it. So I have to take this questionnaire.

To potential customers who have to take this questionnaire ?


To potential customers who have to take this questionnaire ?


But um  Well  we can go , uh because of the time , uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking ? Well we think so. Uh


But um  Well  we can go , uh because of the time , uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking ? Well we think so. Uh

Yeah. We designed it to be good-looking , so


But um  Well  we can go , uh because of the time , uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking ? Well we think so. Uh

Yeah. We designed it to be good-looking , so

Yeah , but uh , you know  We dis we di  we designed it to be perfect.


Yeah. We designed it to be good-looking , so

Yeah , but uh , you know  We dis we di  we designed it to be perfect.


Yeah , but uh , you know  We dis we di  we designed it to be perfect.

So   But we have to be critic critical about it. And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end. So we  we know where we stand.


So   But we have to be critic critical about it. And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end. So we  we know where we stand.

'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten.


'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten.

Well l well let's start with the beginning , just one by one.


'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten.

Well l well let's start with the beginning , just one by one.

Right , so  Right. Uh is it good-looking ?


Well l well let's start with the beginning , just one by one.

Right , so  Right. Uh is it good-looking ?

Well , I guess uh I think uh  it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course , uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything.


Right , so  Right. Uh is it good-looking ?

Well , I guess uh I think uh  it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course , uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything.

That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um  uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device that


Well , I guess uh I think uh  it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course , uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything.

That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um  uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device that

The titanium might be uh f for older people.


That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um  uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device that

The titanium might be uh f for older people.

Yeah , that's that's uh for older people , it's it's more that classical look. So


That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um  uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device that

The titanium might be uh f for older people.

Yeah , that's that's uh for older people , it's it's more that classical look. So

It you put uh put a black front on it or something.


The titanium might be uh f for older people.

Yeah , that's that's uh for older people , it's it's more that classical look. So

It you put uh put a black front on it or something.


Yeah , that's that's uh for older people , it's it's more that classical look. So

It you put uh put a black front on it or something.

Uh no.  I think  Yeah they like black of course , but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also  Uh I think it's also good for them , so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I think it's very good-looking


It you put uh put a black front on it or something.

Uh no.  I think  Yeah they like black of course , but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also  Uh I think it's also good for them , so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I think it's very good-looking


Uh no.  I think  Yeah they like black of course , but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also  Uh I think it's also good for them , so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I think it's very good-looking


Uh no.  I think  Yeah they like black of course , but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also  Uh I think it's also good for them , so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I think it's very good-looking

I think we shouldn't discuss any points points that long , because I don't know how how many points there are but uh


I think we shouldn't discuss any points points that long , because I don't know how how many points there are but uh


We we have to get get on , go through this.


We we have to get get on , go through this.

Is it easy to t change channels ? Yeah well I think so.


Is it easy to t change channels ? Yeah well I think so.


Well uh two ? Y Well we have to go through it .


Well uh two ? Y Well we have to go through it .

I think it's uh as easy as uh can be made. Uh


I think it's uh as easy as uh can be made. Uh

So I   Yeah. You  How can you make it any easier ?


So I   Yeah. You  How can you make it any easier ?

The power , channel and volume buttons are easy accessible ?


The power , channel and volume buttons are easy accessible ?


Two ? Alright. The uh device is easy to find if you lose it ?


Two ? Alright. The uh device is easy to find if you lose it ?

Well , no. We didn't implement anything about that.


Two ? Alright. The uh device is easy to find if you lose it ?

Well , no. We didn't implement anything about that.

Well it's easier to find than a a normal black one or something ,


Well , no. We didn't implement anything about that.

Well it's easier to find than a a normal black one or something ,


Well it's easier to find than a a normal black one or something ,


Well we don't have the device that beeps uh when you lost it or so ,


Well we don't have the device that beeps uh when you lost it or so ,

Well w I we do want we have a l f f less of an


Well w I we do want we have a l f f less of an


because  the voice recorder is n not self learning.


I th I th I think this is too time consuming.


Right , R_ R_S_I_ sensitive ?  R_S_I_ sensitive ?


One. And features included also one. And   One.


One. And features included also one. And   One.

Uh those uh nine uh is the fancy-looking. Uh we still think so.


Uh those uh nine uh is the fancy-looking. Uh we still think so.


Are there enough technology ? Yeah well also we have two.


Are the trends about fruit and vegetables implemented ?


Well , it doesn't really resemble any fruit , uh that's true.


Well , it doesn't really resemble any fruit , uh that's true.

But but we have the the the the the sparkly fruity colours of course.


But but we have the the the the the sparkly fruity colours of course.


And you can also have  front with uh with fruit on it.


Well the titanium is strong , and uh the rest f uh the buttons feel soft. So I would say at least two.


Yes , but we we have to design much more ,


Yes , but we we have to design much more ,

because there was some irritating account manager coming to me.  Um


because there was some irritating account manager coming to me.  Um

I knew things uh were going uh too smoothly.


because there was some irritating account manager coming to me.  Um

I knew things uh were going uh too smoothly.

There had to be some kind of trouble along the way.


I knew things uh were going uh too smoothly.

There had to be some kind of trouble along the way.


There had to be some kind of trouble along the way.

Yes. Well , look at the costs at this point.


Yes. Well , look at the costs at this point.


So  Well what costs a lot ? The sample spea costs four.


The speaker costs far , by far the most.


The speaker costs far , by far the most.

Yeah w tha that's uh that's a bit an optional option.


Yeah w tha that's uh that's a bit an optional option.


We could make two different versions , one with and one without.


Well the titanium I don't want to lose actually.


L_C_ three ? Yeah hand dynamo ? Y t come on ,


N Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think.


N Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think.

Well well why why why should we use a advanced chip ?


Well well why why why should we use a advanced chip ?


Well what what's the difference between simple and regular ?


Well what what's the difference between simple and regular ?

What's the difference between a simple and a regular chip ?


What's the difference between a simple and a regular chip ?


Uh well yeah I I read something about it , but


I I read something about it , but it wasn't very clear. I d I didn't in include it in my report.


I I read something about it , but it wasn't very clear. I d I didn't in include it in my report.

Single  Well you have to use a chip. So  Well you have to use the advanced chip , if you have the L_C_D_ screen.


Single  Well you have to use a chip. So  Well you have to use the advanced chip , if you have the L_C_D_ screen.


Single  Well you have to use a chip. So  Well you have to use the advanced chip , if you have the L_C_D_ screen.

We have very little options furthermore , for the


We have very little options furthermore , for the


We have very little options furthermore , for the

But if you have a regular chip , you can't have the L_C_D_ screen.


But if you have a regular chip , you can't have the L_C_D_ screen.

Yeah , we need to have the  the L_C_D_ screen.


Yeah , we need to have the  the L_C_D_ screen.

Well , we could say , well this special colour , that isn't that that isn't there ,


Well , we could say , well this special colour , that isn't that that isn't there ,

because the the fronts they will buy it. The special colour.


because the the fronts they will buy it. The special colour.


Yeah , you must change the chip uh back.


Yeah , you must change the chip uh back.

then you s then you only have one half left.


then you s then you only have one half left.


But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen.


But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen.

Yeah , I know but that's what my information says. I di I didn't uh put uh the advanced chip in there for fun.


Yeah , I know but that's what my information says. I di I didn't uh put uh the advanced chip in there for fun.

You  You can make you can make it cheaper.


You  You can make you can make it cheaper.


You you we have an advanced chip-on-print ,


You you we have an advanced chip-on-print ,

and we have an L_C_ display. I think that's a bit double.


and we have an L_C_ display. I think that's a bit double.

the advanced chip is needed to have an L_C_D_ display.


the advanced chip is needed to have an L_C_D_ display.


the advanced chip is needed to have an L_C_D_ display.

Says , his  Uh that was in the second meeting , I think.


Says , his  Uh that was in the second meeting , I think.

Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again ? Because we you have uncurved


Says , his  Uh that was in the second meeting , I think.

Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again ? Because we you have uncurved

Well I I did single curve to  Well you said s double curved ,


Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again ? Because we you have uncurved

Well I I did single curve to  Well you said s double curved ,


Well I I did single curve to  Well you said s double curved ,

because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already.


because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already.


Sorry , but   What do they mean with the curves ?


Yeah , this is actually two curves , yeah.


Well then we have a huge problem I think.


Well then we have a huge problem I think.

W t we can never get uh below the twelve and a half.


W t we can never get uh below the twelve and a half.

Well , then we have two dollars less profit. Come on , if we if we if we make this fifty million , they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us , so uh


Well , then we have two dollars less profit. Come on , if we if we if we make this fifty million , they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us , so uh

If if you make people brand-aware , they are willing to pay more. But  Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back. If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy.


If if you make people brand-aware , they are willing to pay more. But  Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back. If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy.


Hey but uh I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen , it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing.


Hey but uh I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen , it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing.

Why why don't we replace the titanium with uh plastic coloured titanium ,


Why why don't we replace the titanium with uh plastic coloured titanium ,


Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper.


Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper.

And make all plastic , then we ha then we're there.


Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper.

And make all plastic , then we ha then we're there.

But then we we've got to uh run through the eval evaluation process again.


And make all plastic , then we ha then we're there.

But then we we've got to uh run through the eval evaluation process again.


But then we we've got to uh run through the eval evaluation process again.

Th then you have a ugly , stupid , l ugly looking , dumb remote that that no-one would buy.


Th then you have a ugly , stupid , l ugly looking , dumb remote that that no-one would buy.

It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same.


It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same.


It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same.

I think the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and the and the


I think the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and the and the


And also the the older people will like it because of that. And because i


And also the the older people will like it because of that. And because i

Alright it's not our target audience , but it's it's useful if it's uh important for old people.


And also the the older people will like it because of that. And because i

Alright it's not our target audience , but it's it's useful if it's uh important for old people.

We still  we had to focus to get more people from the younger group ,


Alright it's not our target audience , but it's it's useful if it's uh important for old people.

We still  we had to focus to get more people from the younger group ,


We still  we had to focus to get more people from the younger group ,


Yeah alright but then we we won't get there.


Yeah alright but then we we won't get there.

Yeah we have a problem , yeah. W But you can better , yeah , dump the L_C_D_ screen then.


Yeah alright but then we we won't get there.

Yeah we have a problem , yeah. W But you can better , yeah , dump the L_C_D_ screen then.

We can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think.


Yeah alright but then we we won't get there.

Yeah we have a problem , yeah. W But you can better , yeah , dump the L_C_D_ screen then.

We can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think.

I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen.


Yeah we have a problem , yeah. W But you can better , yeah , dump the L_C_D_ screen then.

We can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think.

I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen.


We can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think.

I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen.


I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen.


Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen. But I think you could better change uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium than lose the L_C_D_ screen.


Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen. But I think you could better change uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium than lose the L_C_D_ screen.

Because you have lots of functions  in it too.


Because you have lots of functions  in it too.


I agree with that. So we u we use uh  Unfortunately. Um. Titanium-coloured plastic.


I agree with that. So we u we use uh  Unfortunately. Um. Titanium-coloured plastic.

I'll put in the report we that we think that fourteen point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these days.


I agree with that. So we u we use uh  Unfortunately. Um. Titanium-coloured plastic.

I'll put in the report we that we think that fourteen point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these days.

So titanium-coloured plastic for the back.


I'll put in the report we that we think that fourteen point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these days.

So titanium-coloured plastic for the back.


So titanium-coloured plastic for the back.


So titanium-coloured plastic for the back.

Titanium , I thi I think this this is this is e really good re remote. But


Titanium , I thi I think this this is this is e really good re remote. But


Titanium , I thi I think this this is this is e really good re remote. But

but it it's not good enough.  So we have to use the ditch the titanium , I'm afraid.


but it it's not good enough.  So we have to use the ditch the titanium , I'm afraid.

Ah those  those account managers , what do th d what do they know ?


Ah those  those account managers , what do th d what do they know ?

What do we  Well what do we know ? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really consider the costs. So


What do we  Well what do we know ? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really consider the costs. So


What do we  Well what do we know ? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really consider the costs. So

No because we did not know anything about it.


No because we did not know anything about it.


No because we did not know anything about it.

If you don't have the money , you can't make it.


If you don't have the money , you can't make it.


So s If you don't have the money , you can't make it. So this is too expensive.


And on plastic times two and then we uh are there ?


But then we can add the special colour ? As we have money over uh left.


Well I think uh the case is double curved then.


Well y we have curves in all directions.


Well y we have curves in all directions.

Well you can you can double curve , if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped ,


Well y we have curves in all directions.

Well you can you can double curve , if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped ,

so it it can be done.  But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it isn't bad to to to stay at eleven.


Well you can you can double curve , if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped ,

so it it can be done.  But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it isn't bad to to to stay at eleven.


so it it can be done.  But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it isn't bad to to to stay at eleven.

I mean , this this ain't titanium , but it looks like it.


I mean , this this ain't titanium , but it looks like it.

We get more salary , if we make if cheaper than twelve uh twelve and a half.


We get more salary , if we make if cheaper than twelve uh twelve and a half.


and we'll hate the managers for that , but now we're going to evaluate our project , of uh project ,


and we'll hate the managers for that , but now we're going to evaluate our project , of uh project ,

project.  Well ,  satisfaction on for example , are we satisfactory about our creativity ?


project.  Well ,  satisfaction on for example , are we satisfactory about our creativity ?

Well I can't get no satisfaction , but uh


project.  Well ,  satisfaction on for example , are we satisfactory about our creativity ?

Well I can't get no satisfaction , but uh

I think it's uh  Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best , yeah.


project.  Well ,  satisfaction on for example , are we satisfactory about our creativity ?

Well I can't get no satisfaction , but uh

I think it's uh  Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best , yeah.

I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment.


Well I can't get no satisfaction , but uh

I think it's uh  Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best , yeah.

I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment.


I think it's uh  Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best , yeah.

I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment.


I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment.


That's really bad. But that that that's that , yeah that's a reason ,


That's really bad. But that that that's that , yeah that's a reason ,

but also for our creativity. We had um nice design , and then you get the cost , and you had to dump all your creativity.


but also for our creativity. We had um nice design , and then you get the cost , and you had to dump all your creativity.


but also for our creativity. We had um nice design , and then you get the cost , and you had to dump all your creativity.

but we just had to adapt it to the costs.


but we just had to adapt it to the costs.


I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time , so


I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time , so

Well the managers were terrible. So , with their all their useless requirements.


Well the managers were terrible. So , with their all their useless requirements.

Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements.


Well the managers were terrible. So , with their all their useless requirements.

Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements.

It's the requirements of the user , uh I guess.


Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements.

It's the requirements of the user , uh I guess.

No they said , oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext , uh we won't use the D_V_D_.


Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements.

It's the requirements of the user , uh I guess.

No they said , oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext , uh we won't use the D_V_D_.

Yeah. Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications.


It's the requirements of the user , uh I guess.

No they said , oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext , uh we won't use the D_V_D_.

Yeah. Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications.

Alright , teamwork ? Well great I think.


No they said , oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext , uh we won't use the D_V_D_.

Yeah. Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications.

Alright , teamwork ? Well great I think.


Yeah. Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications.

Alright , teamwork ? Well great I think.


Alright , teamwork ? Well great I think.


Uh well what do you , what did you think about the SMARTboard ?


No , that's a SMARTboard , and that's a digital pen.


No , that's a SMARTboard , and that's a digital pen.

No it's other way around. That's the SMARTboard.


No it's other way around. That's the SMARTboard.


This this this isn't a SMARTboard , right ?


This is just a large t large television.


It's both a SMARTboard , but this one is used for a desktop , and that one is used to to draw.


It's both a SMARTboard , but this one is used for a desktop , and that one is used to to draw.

Yeah , but you ca This is just a beamer function. And here , on this one , you can uh draw the pictures and things like that. But


Yeah , but you ca This is just a beamer function. And here , on this one , you can uh draw the pictures and things like that. But


That one isn't accurate.  It just doesn't work.


That one isn't accurate.  It just doesn't work.

But I I think this is meant by the digital pen.


But I I think this is meant by the digital pen.


Yeah , but I think there's a big distinction between the  these th


Yeah , but I think there's a big distinction between the  these th

We're now talking about the SMARTboards.


We're now talking about the SMARTboards.


Yeah , but  give me a beamer. That's uh that's much uh much cheaper.


Yeah , but  give me a beamer. That's uh that's much uh much cheaper.

Or install a laptop to a beamer , or have this one standing here in an  I I like it.


Or install a laptop to a beamer , or have this one standing here in an  I I like it.


Or install a laptop to a beamer , or have this one standing here in an  I I like it.

Yeah I like that one , but that one is terrible.


Yeah I like that one , but that one is terrible.

But uh you can uh  I I sent it about three times now. Uh  a green uh board with uh chalk is much more useful than that thing.


But uh you can uh  I I sent it about three times now. Uh  a green uh board with uh chalk is much more useful than that thing.


And uh the digi the digital pen ? Did uh did you like that one ?


And uh the digi the digital pen ? Did uh did you like that one ?

I wrote things down but I didn't import it into my laptop.


I wrote things down but I didn't import it into my laptop.

I used it uh just to check it out , but uh


I used it uh just to check it out , but uh

You you can't send that to anyone , because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself ,


You you can't send that to anyone , because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself ,


You you can't send that to anyone , because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself ,

and then you're going to send it , yeah. Well , no.


You you can't send that to anyone , because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself ,

and then you're going to send it , yeah. Well , no.

W  But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your your note block.


and then you're going to send it , yeah. Well , no.

W  But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your your note block.


and then you're going to send it , yeah. Well , no.

W  But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your your note block.

So what's the what's the th what's the point of importing it into


W  But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your your note block.

So what's the what's the th what's the point of importing it into


So what's the what's the th what's the point of importing it into

Well I I drew this.  Mm. And I made a mistake. But it it would have been uh useful , if I I could show this on the screen.


Well I I drew this.  Mm. And I made a mistake. But it it would have been uh useful , if I I could show this on the screen.


but not for personal notes. I think that's not very


but not for personal notes. I think that's not very

Uh I mean  you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course if you have a lot of paper


Uh I mean  you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course if you have a lot of paper

Yeah , it might be useful for drawings. I I agree on that.


Yeah , it might be useful for drawings. I I agree on that.


Yeah , it might be useful for drawings. I I agree on that.

But for notes , it i you you have to put that in a strict  Uh you have to put a name , standard date , and all those things. And notes uh for a meeting are very strict. So if you uh were to write them down for yourself , and then put that in your computer , you still have to type it over to Word.


But for notes , it i you you have to put that in a strict  Uh you have to put a name , standard date , and all those things. And notes uh for a meeting are very strict. So if you uh were to write them down for yourself , and then put that in your computer , you still have to type it over to Word.


But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork.  You can't  It's not very uh ni Yeah well a lot of documents are  Yeah.


But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork.  You can't  It's not very uh ni Yeah well a lot of documents are  Yeah.

No , I don't think so. It's it's only useful if you have to draw something.


But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork.  You can't  It's not very uh ni Yeah well a lot of documents are  Yeah.

No , I don't think so. It's it's only useful if you have to draw something.

Yeah. But then uh it's really useful , I think.


No , I don't think so. It's it's only useful if you have to draw something.

Yeah. But then uh it's really useful , I think.

Yep. Alright. Um etcetera ? Well uh the laptops ?


Yeah. But then uh it's really useful , I think.

Yep. Alright. Um etcetera ? Well uh the laptops ?


Yep. Alright. Um etcetera ? Well uh the laptops ?


Yeah. Other uh things we used here ? I hated the cameras , I hated the microphones. But   No


Yeah. Other uh things we used here ? I hated the cameras , I hated the microphones. But   No

Well did you really uh  Did you really take uh take those in account ?  I  half of time I didn't notice they were there. So


Yeah. Other uh things we used here ? I hated the cameras , I hated the microphones. But   No

Well did you really uh  Did you really take uh take those in account ?  I  half of time I didn't notice they were there. So

No. No. I haven't looked w one time directly at the camera.  I don't care about it.


Well did you really uh  Did you really take uh take those in account ?  I  half of time I didn't notice they were there. So

No. No. I haven't looked w one time directly at the camera.  I don't care about it.


No. No. I haven't looked w one time directly at the camera.  I don't care about it.

Because  this is a realistic environment.


Because  this is a realistic environment.


What kind of ideas for n a future schedule   What ?  For future um meetings  you have got ?


What kind of ideas for n a future schedule   What ?  For future um meetings  you have got ?

Well I missed uh the option to uh to email ,


Well I missed uh the option to uh to email ,


But yeah. W well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with. So


But yeah. W well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with. So

Yeah alright , but that's one n new idea.


Yeah alright , but that's one n new idea.


Well , more more information in the beginning.


But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings , because if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things , I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive , I'm not going to uh


But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings , because if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things , I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive , I'm not going to uh

For people who uh sketch th the whole day , I can imagine that it's useful.


But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings , because if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things , I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive , I'm not going to uh

For people who uh sketch th the whole day , I can imagine that it's useful.

Well th then still they they they should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop.


For people who uh sketch th the whole day , I can imagine that it's useful.

Well th then still they they they should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop.


For people who uh sketch th the whole day , I can imagine that it's useful.

Well th then still they they they should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop.

But it's still an expensive uh expensive


Well th then still they they they should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop.

But it's still an expensive uh expensive


But it's still an expensive uh expensive


Well you you can't you can't draw on a laptop like you like you paint of or draw with your hand.


Mouse is ju just isn't working if you're sketching.


Mouse is ju just isn't working if you're sketching.

And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly , what uh would it be useful then , if it wasn't off all the time ?  A


Mouse is ju just isn't working if you're sketching.

And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly , what uh would it be useful then , if it wasn't off all the time ?  A

Well no. I hated to draw like that. You you can't draw anything uh neat.


And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly , what uh would it be useful then , if it wasn't off all the time ?  A

Well no. I hated to draw like that. You you can't draw anything uh neat.


And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly , what uh would it be useful then , if it wasn't off all the time ?  A

Well no. I hated to draw like that. You you can't draw anything uh neat.

Yeah , but he's saying if it is correct , and you can draw very ,  yeah , very precise


Well no. I hated to draw like that. You you can't draw anything uh neat.

Yeah , but he's saying if it is correct , and you can draw very ,  yeah , very precise

Anything you want. Any b b Yeah. L li li


Yeah , but he's saying if it is correct , and you can draw very ,  yeah , very precise

Anything you want. Any b b Yeah. L li li

I if it if it would be perfect following.


Anything you want. Any b b Yeah. L li li

I if it if it would be perfect following.

Well th th then still it's it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green  uh  school board.


I if it if it would be perfect following.

Well th th then still it's it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green  uh  school board.

Well it isn't , but maybe that thing is uh is


Well th th then still it's it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green  uh  school board.

Well it isn't , but maybe that thing is uh is


Well it isn't , but maybe that thing is uh is

Yeah , but but then you can uh save it in instantly , and and and re-use it , and uh


Yeah , but but then you can uh save it in instantly , and and and re-use it , and uh


This uh if it works correct , maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning.


This uh if it works correct , maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning.

So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work ,


So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work ,


Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room.


Yeah , we can go to the bar and uh with our  newly earned money.


Um I don't know how long we still have.  I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting. But uh


Um I don't know how long we still have.  I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting. But uh

Well yeah , it is a bit uh  Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things.  I have to do that.


Well yeah , it is a bit uh  Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things.  I have to do that.


Well yeah , it is a bit uh  Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things.  I have to do that.

I  Di did you um save this one in the folder ?


I  Di did you um save this one in the folder ?


No we must save this thing , yeah. In the shared map map.


No we must save this thing , yeah. In the shared map map.

Map , is it a good word ? The folder , yeah.


Map , is it a good word ? The folder , yeah.


I'm gonna buy one buy one for my bedroom.


S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um


S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um

Well they they wanted everything we produced , so


S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um

Well they they wanted everything we produced , so

They also want to see my cat and his rabbit , and uh


Well they they wanted everything we produced , so

They also want to see my cat and his rabbit , and uh


They also want to see my cat and his rabbit , and uh


Maybe the pen is just uh uh broken and the board isn't.


I think you have we have to make clear to her that we are ready.


Oh you mean our uh coach , our f personal coach.


Is she responsible for sending that information so late ? Oh.


Is she responsible for sending that information so late ? Oh.

Because then we have to confront her with our


Because then we have to confront her with our


Yeah. Let's take this remote into uh production.


Yeah. Let's take this remote into uh production.

That that's the title of our uh end document.


That that's the title of our uh end document.


We couldn't put the fashion into the electronics.


I'm going to resign after this project anyway , so


Uh before I start with the with the meeting I have a few things to tell you about the the setting we're in , uh because we're uh being watched by uh Big Brother. So um


This uh  These are cameras , so are these. This thing uh that looks like a pie ,


So you must be careful with uh with uh all this. And uh as I can see you uh you have placed your laptops uh exactly on the place where it must be. And that has to do with the camera settings , so we don't have our uh laptops in front of the cameras.


Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs.  Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself , uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance , acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards. Then the project plan. What we're going to do , and how we're going to do it. Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end.  Okay uh , my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm the Project Manager. What's your name ?


Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs.  Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself , uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance , acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards. Then the project plan. What we're going to do , and how we're going to do it. Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end.  Okay uh , my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm the Project Manager. What's your name ?

I'm Juergen Toffs. I'm the User Interface Designer.


Welcome at the kick-off meeting. My name is uh Danny Wolfs.  Uh this is the agenda for today. Uh first a little opening. Uh I will introduce myself , uh and uh I think it's very uh good to introduce uh yourself. Uh then uh a little bit of acquaintance , acquaintance to uh to to ourselves. So uh we get to know each other. Uh that will be done uh with a tool training from the he these two uh smart boards. Then the project plan. What we're going to do , and how we're going to do it. Uh and discussion about that and a little closing at the end.  Okay uh , my name is uh Danny Wolfs. I'm the Project Manager. What's your name ?

I'm Juergen Toffs. I'm the User Interface Designer.

Hi , my name's uh . I'm the Industrial Designer.


I'm Juergen Toffs. I'm the User Interface Designer.

Hi , my name's uh . I'm the Industrial Designer.


Hi , my name's uh . I'm the Industrial Designer.

I'm uh Tim . Um my function is the Marketing Expert.


Hi , my name's uh . I'm the Industrial Designer.

I'm uh Tim . Um my function is the Marketing Expert.

Okay , thank you. First a little about the project aim. Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control. Uh maybe you have read uh read the website. It's a very uh , yeah , very uh ambitious uh company. They uh they wanna do something else. I w Uh there must be a new remote control. Uh first of all uh it must be original , uh and trendy. That's two things really uh close to each other. But at the same time uh user-friendly. And they have uh  Yeah , that's uh very important uh for them. Uh there are three stages. There is a functional design. So uh what are we going uh to uh to do ? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote ? And why are we going to do it ? Then the conceptual design. How are going to do it ?  And that's uh really global. Uh because at the detailed design , how , part two , uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of  If it's uh it's possible technical-wise.


I'm uh Tim . Um my function is the Marketing Expert.

Okay , thank you. First a little about the project aim. Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control. Uh maybe you have read uh read the website. It's a very uh , yeah , very uh ambitious uh company. They uh they wanna do something else. I w Uh there must be a new remote control. Uh first of all uh it must be original , uh and trendy. That's two things really uh close to each other. But at the same time uh user-friendly. And they have uh  Yeah , that's uh very important uh for them. Uh there are three stages. There is a functional design. So uh what are we going uh to uh to do ? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote ? And why are we going to do it ? Then the conceptual design. How are going to do it ?  And that's uh really global. Uh because at the detailed design , how , part two , uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of  If it's uh it's possible technical-wise.

Uh each stage is uh  uh is broken up in two uh two stages , individual work and a meeting. So it's uh it's very straightforward.  Okay , the tool training. We have two smart boards.  This one is for the presentations , the PowerPoint presentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had. Uh and this is uh only for uh drawing. So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme.  This is called a smart board


Okay , thank you. First a little about the project aim. Uh the the the aim is to make a new remote control. Uh maybe you have read uh read the website. It's a very uh , yeah , very uh ambitious uh company. They uh they wanna do something else. I w Uh there must be a new remote control. Uh first of all uh it must be original , uh and trendy. That's two things really uh close to each other. But at the same time uh user-friendly. And they have uh  Yeah , that's uh very important uh for them. Uh there are three stages. There is a functional design. So uh what are we going uh to uh to do ? What are we going to uh uh make f uh kind of functions in the remote ? And why are we going to do it ? Then the conceptual design. How are going to do it ?  And that's uh really global. Uh because at the detailed design , how , part two , uh we go uh to dig in uh really about how the the te the technical of  If it's uh it's possible technical-wise.

Uh each stage is uh  uh is broken up in two uh two stages , individual work and a meeting. So it's uh it's very straightforward.  Okay , the tool training. We have two smart boards.  This one is for the presentations , the PowerPoint presentations or the Word presentation of whatever you uh you had. Uh and this is uh only for uh drawing. So uh we uh must let it uh stand on this uh this programme.  This is called a smart board

thing uh  Yeah , it speaks for itself. Um and as you uh may have heard , the documents in the shared folder uh can be uh showed on this screen. Not in y the the My Documents. So if you wanna show something , put it in the shared folder.  Uh  This uh is  very straightforward , with the save , the print , the undo , the blank , the select , the pen. Well , I don't uh gonna explain it all ,