Cuz I think what 's certainly characteristic of a lot of the  data in this test is that , um , you don't have   the  the training set may not be a  a great estimator for the noise in the test set. Sometimes it is and sometimes it 's not.


Cuz I think what 's certainly characteristic of a lot of the  data in this test is that , um , you don't have   the  the training set may not be a  a great estimator for the noise in the test set. Sometimes it is and sometimes it 's not.

Yeah. I  the clean speech  the codebook for clean speech , I am using TIMIT. And I have now , uh , sixty - four  Gaus - Gaussian.


Cuz I think what 's certainly characteristic of a lot of the  data in this test is that , um , you don't have   the  the training set may not be a  a great estimator for the noise in the test set. Sometimes it is and sometimes it 's not.

Yeah. I  the clean speech  the codebook for clean speech , I am using TIMIT. And I have now , uh , sixty - four  Gaus - Gaussian.

Uh - huh. And what are you using for the noisy  ? Y y doing that strictly


Yeah. I  the clean speech  the codebook for clean speech , I am using TIMIT. And I have now , uh , sixty - four  Gaus - Gaussian.

Uh - huh. And what are you using for the noisy  ? Y y doing that strictly


Uh - huh. And what are you using for the noisy  ? Y y doing that strictly

Well , for the noises I only use one Gaussian.


Well , for the noises I only use one Gaussian.

And  and you  and you train it up entirely from , uh , nonspeech sections in the test ?


Well , for the noises I only use one Gaussian.

And  and you  and you train it up entirely from , uh , nonspeech sections in the test ?

Uh , yes. The first experiment that I do it is solely to calculate the , mmm  well , this value


And  and you  and you train it up entirely from , uh , nonspeech sections in the test ?

Uh , yes. The first experiment that I do it is solely to calculate the , mmm  well , this value


Uh , yes. The first experiment that I do it is solely to calculate the , mmm  well , this value

uh , the compensation of the dictionary o one time using the  the noise at the f beginning of the sentence.


uh , the compensation of the dictionary o one time using the  the noise at the f beginning of the sentence.


And I fix this for all the  all the sentences. Uh , because  well , the VTS methods  In fact the first thing that I do is to  to obtain , uh , an expression for E  probability e expression of  of E. That mean that the VTS  mmm , with the VTS we obtain , uh  well , we  we obtain the means for each Gaussian  and the variance.


And I fix this for all the  all the sentences. Uh , because  well , the VTS methods  In fact the first thing that I do is to  to obtain , uh , an expression for E  probability e expression of  of E. That mean that the VTS  mmm , with the VTS we obtain , uh  well , we  we obtain the means for each Gaussian  and the variance.

This is one. Eh , this is the composition of the dictionary.


This is one. Eh , this is the composition of the dictionary.

This one thing. And the other thing that this  with these methods is to , uh , obtain  to calculate this value.


This one thing. And the other thing that this  with these methods is to , uh , obtain  to calculate this value.

Because we can write  uh , we can write that  the estimation of the clean speech is equal at an expected value of the clean speech conditional to , uh , the noise signal   the probability f of the  the statistic of the clean speech and the statistic of the noise.


Because we can write  uh , we can write that  the estimation of the clean speech is equal at an expected value of the clean speech conditional to , uh , the noise signal   the probability f of the  the statistic of the clean speech and the statistic of the noise.

This is the methods that say that we 're going obtain this.


This is the methods that say that we 're going obtain this.

And we can put that this is equal to the estimated value of E minus a function that conditional to E to the T  to the noise signal. Well , this is  this function is the  the term  after develop this , the term that we  we take. Give PX and , uh , P the noise.


And we can put that this is equal to the estimated value of E minus a function that conditional to E to the T  to the noise signal. Well , this is  this function is the  the term  after develop this , the term that we  we take. Give PX and , uh , P the noise.


And we can put that this is equal to the estimated value of E minus a function that conditional to E to the T  to the noise signal. Well , this is  this function is the  the term  after develop this , the term that we  we take. Give PX and , uh , P the noise.

And I can  put that this is equal to  the  noise signal minus  Well , I put before  this name , uh  And I can calculate this.


And I can  put that this is equal to  the  noise signal minus  Well , I put before  this name , uh  And I can calculate this.

What is the first variable in that probability ?


And I can  put that this is equal to  the  noise signal minus  Well , I put before  this name , uh  And I can calculate this.

What is the first variable in that probability ?

No , no. I 'm sorry. In  in the one you pointed at. What 's that variable ?


What is the first variable in that probability ?

No , no. I 'm sorry. In  in the one you pointed at. What 's that variable ?


No , no. I 'm sorry. In  in the one you pointed at. What 's that variable ?


but conditional. No , it 's condition it 's not exactly this. It 's modify. Uh , if we have clean speech  we have the dictionary for the clean speech , we have a probability f of  our  our weight for each Gaussian.


but conditional. No , it 's condition it 's not exactly this. It 's modify. Uh , if we have clean speech  we have the dictionary for the clean speech , we have a probability f of  our  our weight for each Gaussian.

No. And now , this weight is different now


No. And now , this weight is different now

because it 's conditional. And this I need to  to calcu I know this


because it 's conditional. And this I need to  to calcu I know this

and I know this because this is from the dictionary that you have.


and I know this because this is from the dictionary that you have.


And for calculate this ,  I have an  I  I can develop an expression that is


And for calculate this ,  I have an  I  I can develop an expression that is

that. I can calculate  I can  I calculated this value ,  uh , with the statistic of the noisy speech that I calculated before with the VTS approximation.


that. I can calculate  I can  I calculated this value ,  uh , with the statistic of the noisy speech that I calculated before with the VTS approximation.

And  well , normalizing. And I know everything. Uh , with the , nnn  when I develop this in s Taylor  Taylor series , I can't , um ,  calculate the mean and the variance  of the  for each of the Gaussian of the dictionary for the noisy speech. Now. And this is fixed.


And  well , normalizing. And I know everything. Uh , with the , nnn  when I develop this in s Taylor  Taylor series , I can't , um ,  calculate the mean and the variance  of the  for each of the Gaussian of the dictionary for the noisy speech. Now. And this is fixed.

If I never do an estimat a newer estimation of the noise , this mean as  mean and the variance are fixed.


If I never do an estimat a newer estimation of the noise , this mean as  mean and the variance are fixed.

And for each s uh , frame of the speech the only thing that I need to do is to calculate this in order to calculate the estimation of the clean speech given our noisy speech.


If I never do an estimat a newer estimation of the noise , this mean as  mean and the variance are fixed.

And for each s uh , frame of the speech the only thing that I need to do is to calculate this in order to calculate the estimation of the clean speech given our noisy speech.

So , I 'm  I 'm not following this perfectly but , um , I  Are you saying that all of these estimates are done  using , um , estimates of the probability density for the noise that are calculated only from the first ten frames ? And never change throughout anything else ?


And for each s uh , frame of the speech the only thing that I need to do is to calculate this in order to calculate the estimation of the clean speech given our noisy speech.

So , I 'm  I 'm not following this perfectly but , um , I  Are you saying that all of these estimates are done  using , um , estimates of the probability density for the noise that are calculated only from the first ten frames ? And never change throughout anything else ?

Yeah. Never cha This is one of the approximations that I am doing.


So , I 'm  I 'm not following this perfectly but , um , I  Are you saying that all of these estimates are done  using , um , estimates of the probability density for the noise that are calculated only from the first ten frames ? And never change throughout anything else ?

Yeah. Never cha This is one of the approximations that I am doing.


Yeah. Never cha This is one of the approximations that I am doing.


So it 's done  it 's done new for each new utterance.


So it 's done  it 's done new for each new utterance.

So this changes the whole mapping for every utterance.


So this changes the whole mapping for every utterance.


And the other estimation is when I do the uh on - line estimation , I change the means and variance of th for the noisy speech


I do it uh again this develop. Estimate the new mean and the variance of the noisy speech. And with th with this new s new mean and variance I estimate again this.


I do it uh again this develop. Estimate the new mean and the variance of the noisy speech. And with th with this new s new mean and variance I estimate again this.

So you estimated , uh , f completely forgetting what you had before ? Uh , or is there some adaptation ?


I do it uh again this develop. Estimate the new mean and the variance of the noisy speech. And with th with this new s new mean and variance I estimate again this.

So you estimated , uh , f completely forgetting what you had before ? Uh , or is there some adaptation ?

Um , no , no , no. It 's not completely  No , it 's  I am doing something like an adaptation of the noise.


I do it uh again this develop. Estimate the new mean and the variance of the noisy speech. And with th with this new s new mean and variance I estimate again this.

So you estimated , uh , f completely forgetting what you had before ? Uh , or is there some adaptation ?

Um , no , no , no. It 's not completely  No , it 's  I am doing something like an adaptation of the noise.

OK. Now do we know , either from their experience or from yours , that , uh , just having , uh , two parameters , the  the mean and variance , is enough ? Yeah. I mean , I know you don't have a lot of data to estimate with , but  but , uh , um


So you estimated , uh , f completely forgetting what you had before ? Uh , or is there some adaptation ?

Um , no , no , no. It 's not completely  No , it 's  I am doing something like an adaptation of the noise.

OK. Now do we know , either from their experience or from yours , that , uh , just having , uh , two parameters , the  the mean and variance , is enough ? Yeah. I mean , I know you don't have a lot of data to estimate with , but  but , uh , um

I estimate mean and variance for each one of the Gaussian of the codebook.


Um , no , no , no. It 's not completely  No , it 's  I am doing something like an adaptation of the noise.

OK. Now do we know , either from their experience or from yours , that , uh , just having , uh , two parameters , the  the mean and variance , is enough ? Yeah. I mean , I know you don't have a lot of data to estimate with , but  but , uh , um

I estimate mean and variance for each one of the Gaussian of the codebook.


OK. Now do we know , either from their experience or from yours , that , uh , just having , uh , two parameters , the  the mean and variance , is enough ? Yeah. I mean , I know you don't have a lot of data to estimate with , but  but , uh , um

I estimate mean and variance for each one of the Gaussian of the codebook.


I estimate mean and variance for each one of the Gaussian of the codebook.


um. Well , only one  I am only  using only one.


um. Well , only one  I am only  using only one.

And you  and  and it 's , uh , uh  right , it 's only  it 's only one  Wait a minute. This is  what 's the dimensionality of the Gaussian ? This is


And you  and  and it 's , uh , uh  right , it 's only  it 's only one  Wait a minute. This is  what 's the dimensionality of the Gaussian ? This is

Uh , it 's in  after the mel filter bank.


Uh , it 's in  after the mel filter bank.

Twenty ? So it 's  Yeah. So it 's actually forty numbers  that you 're getting. Yeah , maybe  maybe you don't have a


Twenty ? So it 's  Yeah. So it 's actually forty numbers  that you 're getting. Yeah , maybe  maybe you don't have a

Uh , the original paper say that only one Gaussian for the noise.


Twenty ? So it 's  Yeah. So it 's actually forty numbers  that you 're getting. Yeah , maybe  maybe you don't have a

Uh , the original paper say that only one Gaussian for the noise.

Well , yeah. But , I mean ,  no  no paper is  is a Bible ,


Uh , the original paper say that only one Gaussian for the noise.

Well , yeah. But , I mean ,  no  no paper is  is a Bible ,


Well , yeah. But , I mean ,  no  no paper is  is a Bible ,


The question is , um ,  whether it would be helpful , i particularly if you used  if you had more  So , suppose you did  This is almost cheating. It certainly isn't real - time. But if y suppose you use the real boundaries that  that you were  in fact were given  by the VAD and so forth or I  I guess we 're gonna be given even better boundaries than that. And you look  you take all o all of the nonspeech components in an utterance , so you have a fair amount. Do you benefit from having a better model for the noise ? That would be another question.


The question is , um ,  whether it would be helpful , i particularly if you used  if you had more  So , suppose you did  This is almost cheating. It certainly isn't real - time. But if y suppose you use the real boundaries that  that you were  in fact were given  by the VAD and so forth or I  I guess we 're gonna be given even better boundaries than that. And you look  you take all o all of the nonspeech components in an utterance , so you have a fair amount. Do you benefit from having a better model for the noise ? That would be another question.

So first question would be  to what extent i are the errors that you 're still seeing  based on the fact that you have poor boundaries for the , uh , uh , nonspeech ? And the second question might be , given that you have good boundaries , could you do better if you used more parameters to characterize the noise ? Um. Also another question might be  Um , they are doing  they 're using first term only of the vector Taylor series ?


So first question would be  to what extent i are the errors that you 're still seeing  based on the fact that you have poor boundaries for the , uh , uh , nonspeech ? And the second question might be , given that you have good boundaries , could you do better if you used more parameters to characterize the noise ? Um. Also another question might be  Um , they are doing  they 're using first term only of the vector Taylor series ?

Um , if you do a second term does it get too complicated cuz of the nonlinearity ?


Um , if you do a second term does it get too complicated cuz of the nonlinearity ?

Yeah , OK. No , I won't ask the next question then.


Um , if you do a second term does it get too complicated cuz of the nonlinearity ?

Yeah , OK. No , I won't ask the next question then.

Oh , it 's  it 's the  for me it 's the first time that I am working with VTS.


Yeah , OK. No , I won't ask the next question then.

Oh , it 's  it 's the  for me it 's the first time that I am working with VTS.


Oh , it 's  it 's the  for me it 's the first time that I am working with VTS.

Uh , w we haven't had anybody work with it before , so it 's interesting to get your  get your feedback about it.


Uh , w we haven't had anybody work with it before , so it 's interesting to get your  get your feedback about it.

It 's another type of approximation because i because it 's a statistic  statistic approximation to remove the noise. I don't know.


Uh , w we haven't had anybody work with it before , so it 's interesting to get your  get your feedback about it.

It 's another type of approximation because i because it 's a statistic  statistic approximation to remove the noise. I don't know.

Great. OK. Well , I guess we 're about done. Um , so some of the digit forms don't have digits. Uh ,  we ran out there were some blanks in there , so not everybody will be reading digits. But , um , I guess you 've got some. Right , Morgan ?


It 's another type of approximation because i because it 's a statistic  statistic approximation to remove the noise. I don't know.

Great. OK. Well , I guess we 're about done. Um , so some of the digit forms don't have digits. Uh ,  we ran out there were some blanks in there , so not everybody will be reading digits. But , um , I guess you 've got some. Right , Morgan ?


Great. OK. Well , I guess we 're about done. Um , so some of the digit forms don't have digits. Uh ,  we ran out there were some blanks in there , so not everybody will be reading digits. But , um , I guess you 've got some. Right , Morgan ?

So , why don't you go ahead and start. And I think it 's  just us down here at this end that have them.


So , why don't you go ahead and start. And I think it 's  just us down here at this end that have them.


just so that they 're continuing to get the distant , uh , information.


So , hello everyone.  We're here to have a kick-off meeting for the design of a  f for the beginning of new project um  uh remote control for the design for a new remote control . I'm the Project Manager Christa Pavlov and  okay let's begin.

So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan , some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting. So um we want to to do a new remote control. It has to be original , trendy and user friendly.


So , hello everyone.  We're here to have a kick-off meeting for the design of a  f for the beginning of new project um  uh remote control for the design for a new remote control . I'm the Project Manager Christa Pavlov and  okay let's begin.

So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan , some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting. So um we want to to do a new remote control. It has to be original , trendy and user friendly.

Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design , it's conceptual design , and desail detailed design.  and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day. Um , so  let's try the whiteboard .


So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan , some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting. So um we want to to do a new remote control. It has to be original , trendy and user friendly.

Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design , it's conceptual design , and desail detailed design.  and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day. Um , so  let's try the whiteboard .


Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design , it's conceptual design , and desail detailed design.  and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day. Um , so  let's try the whiteboard .


It's gonna be not my favourite one but the one I can draw.


A r a rabbit , oh oh yeah , where is the carrot ?


I am not very good at uh  this kind of stuff.


A human , yay. It's a very complex animal


A human , yay. It's a very complex animal

and um  yeah. Characteristics of this this animal is  dangerous.


and um  yeah. Characteristics of this this animal is  dangerous.


Just tr try to guess who is a User Interface Designer.


So. Twenty five Euro for a remote control.


So. Twenty five Euro for a remote control.

that's the aim for the price for the remote control.


that's the aim for the price for the remote control.


Mm  for a production cost of mm twelve fifty Euros maximum.  'Kay . So any of you have experience in remote controls ?


Mm  for a production cost of mm twelve fifty Euros maximum.  'Kay . So any of you have experience in remote controls ?

In fact , my daughter likes l    remote controls.


In fact , my daughter likes l    remote controls.


So that could be a great um  application.


So that could be a great um  application.

Remote controls children proof. Mm mm-hmm.


Remote controls children proof. Mm mm-hmm.


So she likes uh buttons  which make click ,


yeah  but mainly it has to be very robust


yeah  but mainly it has to be very robust

because even if she's not very tall she's uh  high enough so that uh when she throw it away it's uh


because even if she's not very tall she's uh  high enough so that uh when she throw it away it's uh


Yeah , we have some child lock or something , yeah.


colourful , because uh nobody has colourful remote control


but this one could be I dunno , purple or b


but this one could be I dunno , purple or b

But how gonna  okay , just uh but it's uh monochrome it's n it's not like


But how gonna  okay , just uh but it's uh monochrome it's n it's not like


Yeah even we can change colours , no ? Like the uh


Yeah even we can change colours , no ? Like the uh

like the phones and these things we c yeah.


like the phones and these things we c yeah.


At least for children like one colour and .


Should it be , y you know these uh remote controls where um they are what they call a universal ret remote control


Should it be , y you know these uh remote controls where um they are what they call a universal ret remote control

so y you can decide that now it's the remote control for the television , then it's the remote control for the the sound system , or for your refrigerator


so y you can decide that now it's the remote control for the television , then it's the remote control for the the sound system , or for your refrigerator


Or if we should have a targeted re remote control.


Or if we should have a targeted re remote control.

So colour , robustness , easy to use , size ,


So colour , robustness , easy to use , size ,


So you you think it's better if small than bigger.


So you you think it's better if small than bigger.

Yeah , maybe at least n not bigger than this I guess.


So you you think it's better if small than bigger.

Yeah , maybe at least n not bigger than this I guess.

Yeah , but without any extremes like n not of this size , not too large. Okay.


Yeah , maybe at least n not bigger than this I guess.

Yeah , but without any extremes like n not of this size , not too large. Okay.


Yeah , but without any extremes like n not of this size , not too large. Okay.

Yeah yeah , at least it should hold in your hand n properly , like .


Yeah yeah , at least it should hold in your hand n properly , like .


But uh what would be different from this , from the others ? I dunno if


But uh what would be different from this , from the others ? I dunno if

Uh maybe we can change the colours that  at least the frame. Mm. S so then it depends


But uh what would be different from this , from the others ? I dunno if

Uh maybe we can change the colours that  at least the frame. Mm. S so then it depends

Yeah , at least the colour would be different.


Uh maybe we can change the colours that  at least the frame. Mm. S so then it depends

Yeah , at least the colour would be different.


Yeah , at least the colour would be different.

Mm I mean you c you can easily remove the frame .


Mm I mean you c you can easily remove the frame .

I think one thing important for instance in this remote control if you remember when people use it they're  they never find a good button in the right place.


I think one thing important for instance in this remote control if you remember when people use it they're  they never find a good button in the right place.

For some reason they they they click the off button when they want to use the


For some reason they they they click the off button when they want to use the


For some reason they they they click the off button when they want to use the

So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow ,


For some reason they they they click the off button when they want to use the

So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow ,

Mm. So , some kind of idea uh with um um  cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what


So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow ,

Mm. So , some kind of idea uh with um um  cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what


Mm. So , some kind of idea uh with um um  cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what


well it's not my problem , but well okay.


Mm-hmm. I thought it could be only a screen  which would change depending on uh uh the use or even the user.


Mm-hmm. I thought it could be only a screen  which would change depending on uh uh the use or even the user.

So ma I prefer to have the off button at the top right ,


So ma I prefer to have the off button at the top right ,

so I would have my own design of the remote control because it's in fact just a a full touch screen remote control ,


so I would have my own design of the remote control because it's in fact just a a full touch screen remote control ,


it's like two types no ?  people are right handed or left handed so y because I am left handed I use like this , say if you're right handed you use like this


or  so tha your switch on and off should be on


so how many actions do we need to implement in it ?


so how many actions do we need to implement in it ?

Maybe I think even we can keep two switches and then we can uh only make one working.


Maybe I think even we can keep two switches and then we can uh only make one working.


Maybe I think even we can keep two switches and then we can uh only make one working.

We can adapt only one switch , suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations.


Maybe I think even we can keep two switches and then we can uh only make one working.

We can adapt only one switch , suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations.

I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a


We can adapt only one switch , suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations.

I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a


I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a


Maybe if it's more , if there is a software inside


If it  if we want a r universal remote control that we sa like we say before it may may need more than three mm three button , three mm possibilities , ye yeah.


If it  if we want a r universal remote control that we sa like we say before it may may need more than three mm three button , three mm possibilities , ye yeah.

Yeah , more than three actions that you may want to do at a given time.


Yeah , more than three actions that you may want to do at a given time.

But for standard actions you usually what do you do , you change channels , you adjust volume , and nothing else.


Yeah , more than three actions that you may want to do at a given time.

But for standard actions you usually what do you do , you change channels , you adjust volume , and nothing else.

Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have  you can just go to the next one or go to channel twenty five.


But for standard actions you usually what do you do , you change channels , you adjust volume , and nothing else.

Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have  you can just go to the next one or go to channel twenty five.


Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have  you can just go to the next one or go to channel twenty five.

And that's already more complex to go to channel twenty five.


And that's already more complex to go to channel twenty five.


Because I'm only using three or four channels but


Because I'm only using three or four channels but

Yeah. But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put  yeah , you can only have one bit.


Because I'm only using three or four channels but

Yeah. But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put  yeah , you can only have one bit.

Yeah. I change channel like this , m uh I want to go to twenty five , and then to ten , uh-huh mm yeah.


Yeah. But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put  yeah , you can only have one bit.

Yeah. I change channel like this , m uh I want to go to twenty five , and then to ten , uh-huh mm yeah.


Yeah. I change channel like this , m uh I want to go to twenty five , and then to ten , uh-huh mm yeah.


Yeah. Uh uh we had that in in other countries.


Yeah e even the history so you could like uh undo  previous of the previous.


Then you can watch what your  ah you could also record your  record your  sequence of actions ,


but you could look at what uh the other people have used there or   remote controls.


but you could look at what uh the other people have used there or   remote controls.

Yeah yeah , what the  which channels the viewer


Yeah yeah , what the  which channels the viewer


Okay ? Good afternoon. Hope you have good lunch.


Uh , yes , I had something similar but non-vegetarian.


Uh , yes , I had something similar but non-vegetarian.

Okay. So today is um our third meeting. It will be about the conceptual design  uh. If I come back to uh the minutes of the last meetings um. We decided not to go for speech recognition technologies because of some reasons and we are not decided about u the use of L_C_D_ screen on on the remote control because of costs. So maybe we cou wi will be able to clarify this this question to today. Uh at the end of the meeting we should take decision on that point. So I hope uh that your respective pr presentations uh will help us. So each of you have some presentatio presentation to perform um who starts ?


Okay. So today is um our third meeting. It will be about the conceptual design  uh. If I come back to uh the minutes of the last meetings um. We decided not to go for speech recognition technologies because of some reasons and we are not decided about u the use of L_C_D_ screen on on the remote control because of costs. So maybe we cou wi will be able to clarify this this question to today. Uh at the end of the meeting we should take decision on that point. So I hope uh that your respective pr presentations uh will help us. So each of you have some presentatio presentation to perform um who starts ?

So you are  you saved your y your presentation somewhere ?


So you are  you saved your y your presentation somewhere ?


Which is trend watch.  Okay. Mr Marketing Experts.


Which is trend watch.  Okay. Mr Marketing Experts.

Uh. Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of the users. Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends ?


Uh. Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of the users. Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends ?


Uh. Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of the users. Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends ?

Yeah ? Okay.   Okay.  Well wha  what I found  um can you


Yeah ? Okay.   Okay.  Well wha  what I found  um can you


Yeah ? Okay.   Okay.  Well wha  what I found  um can you

Yeah. Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking , but the most  what they what they find more more interesting , more  or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel.


Yeah ? Okay.   Okay.  Well wha  what I found  um can you

Yeah. Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking , but the most  what they what they find more more interesting , more  or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel.

So now more more cool aspect , ma more  a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with  instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things , a device which is pleasant to to watch , to see.


Yeah. Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking , but the most  what they what they find more more interesting , more  or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel.

So now more more cool aspect , ma more  a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with  instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things , a device which is pleasant to to watch , to see.


Yeah. Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking , but the most  what they what they find more more interesting , more  or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel.

So now more more cool aspect , ma more  a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with  instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things , a device which is pleasant to to watch , to see.

Uh also  Well  in in Euro in in Paris and and  Milan the


So now more more cool aspect , ma more  a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with  instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things , a device which is pleasant to to watch , to see.

Uh also  Well  in in Euro in in Paris and and  Milan the

in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of  uh of clothes , furniture and all this all this fashion it's  it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.


Uh also  Well  in in Euro in in Paris and and  Milan the

in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of  uh of clothes , furniture and all this all this fashion it's  it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.


Uh also  Well  in in Euro in in Paris and and  Milan the

in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of  uh of clothes , furniture and all this all this fashion it's  it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.

And also  in the in the U_S_A_ the the current  the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge ?


in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of  uh of clothes , furniture and all this all this fashion it's  it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.

And also  in the in the U_S_A_ the the current  the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge ?


And also  in the in the U_S_A_ the the current  the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge ?

So maybe we should we should think in in this direction , so


And also  in the in the U_S_A_ the the current  the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge ?

So maybe we should we should think in in this direction , so

What what do you mean by  fruit and vegetables and spongy ?


So maybe we should we should think in in this direction , so

What what do you mean by  fruit and vegetables and spongy ?


What what do you mean by  fruit and vegetables and spongy ?

Fruit vegetables is the the new  have you seen the last exposition of clothes in Milan ?


Fruit vegetables is the the new  have you seen the last exposition of clothes in Milan ?


Fruit vegetables is the the new  have you seen the last exposition of clothes in Milan ?

I didn't miss and I saw that the fruit , there are many fr pictures of fruits and vegetables in the clothes.


I didn't miss and I saw that the fruit , there are many fr pictures of fruits and vegetables in the clothes.

Oh , they're  okay so they're not like dressed as a carrot they just have like pictures of fruit on , okay.


Oh , they're  okay so they're not like dressed as a carrot they just have like pictures of fruit on , okay.

So we're not gonna have a remote control in the shape of of a banana ,


So we're not gonna have a remote control in the shape of of a banana ,


But what's your suggestion how we can have some shape like that on the remote ?


But what's your suggestion how we can have some shape like that on the remote ?

Well so this is in the next slide certainly.


Well so this is in the next slide certainly.


I ha I haven't thought of any particular fruit , but the general aspect of the of the remote control may may  could remind some kind of vegetable , some kind of instead of vegetable , some natur mm uh natural object or something.


I ha I haven't thought of any particular fruit , but the general aspect of the of the remote control may may  could remind some kind of vegetable , some kind of instead of vegetable , some natur mm uh natural object or something.

So maybe you maybe you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.


So maybe you maybe you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.

Oh , so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit ,


So maybe you maybe you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.

Oh , so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit ,

or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the


So maybe you maybe you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.

Oh , so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit ,

or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the

Means buttons are in the shape of fruits ,


Oh , so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit ,

or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the

Means buttons are in the shape of fruits ,


or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the

Means buttons are in the shape of fruits ,

buttons are in the frape  shape of fruits or something , apple , banana , something like that.


Means buttons are in the shape of fruits ,

buttons are in the frape  shape of fruits or something , apple , banana , something like that.

No , not n not not too much focus , not too much focu not n not too s not too similar to a fruit because next year the ten the trend the trend will be different.


buttons are in the frape  shape of fruits or something , apple , banana , something like that.

No , not n not not too much focus , not too much focu not n not too s not too similar to a fruit because next year the ten the trend the trend will be different.


No , not n not not too much focus , not too much focu not n not too s not too similar to a fruit because next year the ten the trend the trend will be different.

So we shouldn't be at re really attached to to the trend


So we shouldn't be at re really attached to to the trend

So something that looks half like a fruit and half like an elephant.


So we shouldn't be at re really attached to to the trend

So something that looks half like a fruit and half like an elephant.

but  For instance , yeah. African or as an elephant ?


So something that looks half like a fruit and half like an elephant.

but  For instance , yeah. African or as an elephant ?


but  For instance , yeah. African or as an elephant ?


I'm not , I'm not really sure if uh that would really appeal to everyone though , maybe just to fashion gurus , like maybe just like a little bit n a little fruit picture somewhere in the corner , but I don't know about uh I dunno how ergonomic a , an orange is.


I'm not , I'm not really sure if uh that would really appeal to everyone though , maybe just to fashion gurus , like maybe just like a little bit n a little fruit picture somewhere in the corner , but I don't know about uh I dunno how ergonomic a , an orange is.

Well ma maybe we we should further specify what target are we focusing. I think in my opinion we should focus on on young people because they are more open to new devi new devices


I'm not , I'm not really sure if uh that would really appeal to everyone though , maybe just to fashion gurus , like maybe just like a little bit n a little fruit picture somewhere in the corner , but I don't know about uh I dunno how ergonomic a , an orange is.

Well ma maybe we we should further specify what target are we focusing. I think in my opinion we should focus on on young people because they are more open to new devi new devices

and also yeah according to the marketing report ninety p ninety five percent of young people was  was was able to to buy a a n a cooler remote control.


Well ma maybe we we should further specify what target are we focusing. I think in my opinion we should focus on on young people because they are more open to new devi new devices

and also yeah according to the marketing report ninety p ninety five percent of young people was  was was able to to buy a a n a cooler remote control.


and also yeah according to the marketing report ninety p ninety five percent of young people was  was was able to to buy a a n a cooler remote control.


Well I guess , you know , Apple has the iPod so ,  imagi


Well I guess , you know , Apple has the iPod so ,  imagi

just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product , doesn't mean fruit is cool.


Well I guess , you know , Apple has the iPod so ,  imagi

just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product , doesn't mean fruit is cool.

No I think we we should think about a a shape with it  a device with a shape of some


Well I guess , you know , Apple has the iPod so ,  imagi

just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product , doesn't mean fruit is cool.

No I think we we should think about a a shape with it  a device with a shape of some

Okay , but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know , you don't wanna pear or a watermelon.


just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product , doesn't mean fruit is cool.

No I think we we should think about a a shape with it  a device with a shape of some

Okay , but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know , you don't wanna pear or a watermelon.

Yeah. Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy to use ?


No I think we we should think about a a shape with it  a device with a shape of some

Okay , but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know , you don't wanna pear or a watermelon.

Yeah. Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy to use ?

Well , probably the only thing is a banana that I can think of ,


Okay , but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know , you don't wanna pear or a watermelon.

Yeah. Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy to use ?

Well , probably the only thing is a banana that I can think of ,


Yeah. Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy to use ?

Well , probably the only thing is a banana that I can think of ,


Well , probably the only thing is a banana that I can think of ,


So , but I mean you also have to  you have to also have , fit r all the buttons and  you know.


The thing is you have t normally with um with buttons , they have to be at some point attached to a circuit board so if you're gonna have things like  on a cylindrical kind of device it may be difficult to kind of to build.


The thing is you have t normally with um with buttons , they have to be at some point attached to a circuit board so if you're gonna have things like  on a cylindrical kind of device it may be difficult to kind of to build.

Yeah but I li I like your idea that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons b buttons so


The thing is you have t normally with um with buttons , they have to be at some point attached to a circuit board so if you're gonna have things like  on a cylindrical kind of device it may be difficult to kind of to build.

Yeah but I li I like your idea that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons b buttons so

Okay. Yeah and you you you will not have pla enough  a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.


Yeah but I li I like your idea that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons b buttons so

Okay. Yeah and you you you will not have pla enough  a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.


Yeah but I li I like your idea that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons b buttons so

Okay. Yeah and you you you will not have pla enough  a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.

Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros ?


Okay. Yeah and you you you will not have pla enough  a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.

Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros ?

Well , you're the Marketing Expert you should tell us if it is too much or not.


Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros ?

Well , you're the Marketing Expert you should tell us if it is too much or not.


Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros ?

Well , you're the Marketing Expert you should tell us if it is too much or not.

I think  Well , according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation ,


Well , you're the Marketing Expert you should tell us if it is too much or not.

I think  Well , according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation ,

so , I will give more importance to the look and feel than  rather than the


I think  Well , according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation ,

so , I will give more importance to the look and feel than  rather than the


I think  Well , according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation ,

so , I will give more importance to the look and feel than  rather than the

new inputs and also it's  I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection , you need more things , it's not just buying a new control re remote , you need  buying control remote , buying uh


so , I will give more importance to the look and feel than  rather than the

new inputs and also it's  I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection , you need more things , it's not just buying a new control re remote , you need  buying control remote , buying uh


new inputs and also it's  I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection , you need more things , it's not just buying a new control re remote , you need  buying control remote , buying uh


new inputs and also it's  I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection , you need more things , it's not just buying a new control re remote , you need  buying control remote , buying uh

you're simply looking s to a remote control that looks like a banana with few buttons  with only a few buttons.


you're simply looking s to a remote control that looks like a banana with few buttons  with only a few buttons.

For instance , yeah. Yeah for for for  given an an example yeah.


For instance , yeah. Yeah for for for  given an an example yeah.

Okay.  Thanks. Um. Okay , I'll give the floor. So you are User Interface guy. So you're three ?


Okay.  Thanks. Um. Okay , I'll give the floor. So you are User Interface guy. So you're three ?


Yep. Okay. So. S next uh slide. Okay. So I received an email um around lunchtime letting me know that the brilliant minds at our technology division had developed an integrated programmable sample sensor sample speaker unit , um which is a way for you to have a conversation with your coffee machine and or remote control .


It has a has a microphone , has a speaker , it's got a little chip and it allows you t


It has a has a microphone , has a speaker , it's got a little chip and it allows you t

Mm-hmm. Actually I'm not reading microphone there , so that's why you can all have conversation , it  just to speak to you.


It has a has a microphone , has a speaker , it's got a little chip and it allows you t

Mm-hmm. Actually I'm not reading microphone there , so that's why you can all have conversation , it  just to speak to you.

Well , it's a sample sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means that it can recognize , it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak and then can play back a phrase in response to that.


It has a has a microphone , has a speaker , it's got a little chip and it allows you t

Mm-hmm. Actually I'm not reading microphone there , so that's why you can all have conversation , it  just to speak to you.

Well , it's a sample sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means that it can recognize , it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak and then can play back a phrase in response to that.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm , mm-hmm.


Mm-hmm. Actually I'm not reading microphone there , so that's why you can all have conversation , it  just to speak to you.

Well , it's a sample sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means that it can recognize , it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak and then can play back a phrase in response to that.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm , mm-hmm.

But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase. So , I mean , you know ,


Well , it's a sample sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means that it can recognize , it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak and then can play back a phrase in response to that.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm , mm-hmm.

But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase. So , I mean , you know ,


Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm , mm-hmm.

But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase. So , I mean , you know ,

I guess you could build that in , you could you could link the the recognition of a certain phrase to some function on on the remote control.


But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase. So , I mean , you know ,

I guess you could build that in , you could you could link the the recognition of a certain phrase to some function on on the remote control.


I guess you could build that in , you could you could link the the recognition of a certain phrase to some function on on the remote control.

But basically the thing is , we have this technology available


But basically the thing is , we have this technology available


but the thing is obviously there's still gonna be a cost if you decided to integrate that because you still have to pay for the c production of the components ,


but the thing is obviously there's still gonna be a cost if you decided to integrate that because you still have to pay for the c production of the components ,

so um it it  but it basically means we c we can kind of consider this from uh you know uh a theoretical or usability kind of viewpoint without worrying too much about you know how to develop it because we have this already done.


so um it it  but it basically means we c we can kind of consider this from uh you know uh a theoretical or usability kind of viewpoint without worrying too much about you know how to develop it because we have this already done.

Whilst you know , some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it ,


so um it it  but it basically means we c we can kind of consider this from uh you know uh a theoretical or usability kind of viewpoint without worrying too much about you know how to develop it because we have this already done.

Whilst you know , some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it ,

I  there's something that I  unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords  speech keywords ?


Whilst you know , some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it ,

I  there's something that I  unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords  speech keywords ?

It's it it's no , well , it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords , but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh , for a certain phrase , you say  the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um  well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is , you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning , how would you like your coffee ?


Whilst you know , some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it ,

I  there's something that I  unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords  speech keywords ?

It's it it's no , well , it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords , but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh , for a certain phrase , you say  the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um  well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is , you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning , how would you like your coffee ?

And it's just to , it's just to playback something ?


I  there's something that I  unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords  speech keywords ?

It's it it's no , well , it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords , but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh , for a certain phrase , you say  the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um  well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is , you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning , how would you like your coffee ?

And it's just to , it's just to playback something ?

Yeah. So actually that was a bad example , 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response , so.


It's it it's no , well , it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords , but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh , for a certain phrase , you say  the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um  well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is , you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning , how would you like your coffee ?

And it's just to , it's just to playback something ?

Yeah. So actually that was a bad example , 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response , so.

Yeah yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.


And it's just to , it's just to playback something ?

Yeah. So actually that was a bad example , 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response , so.

Yeah yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.

Only , like , only in the sense that it it can recognize a set a set target kind of word an


Yeah. So actually that was a bad example , 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response , so.

Yeah yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.

Only , like , only in the sense that it it can recognize a set a set target kind of word an

Yeah. This is just more like a poi pois yeah.


Yeah yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.

Only , like , only in the sense that it it can recognize a set a set target kind of word an

Yeah. This is just more like a poi pois yeah.

It's designed it's designed as a fun kind of thing ,


Only , like , only in the sense that it it can recognize a set a set target kind of word an

Yeah. This is just more like a poi pois yeah.

It's designed it's designed as a fun kind of thing ,


Yeah. This is just more like a poi pois yeah.

It's designed it's designed as a fun kind of thing ,

but I guess you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh


It's designed it's designed as a fun kind of thing ,

but I guess you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh


but I guess you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh


but I guess you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh

it is a uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to  we can bring to the remote control that will not have any uh


it is a uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to  we can bring to the remote control that will not have any uh


it is a uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to  we can bring to the remote control that will not have any uh

yeah comp  completely pointless  for the inter for  from the interaction point of v point of view .


it is a uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to  we can bring to the remote control that will not have any uh

yeah comp  completely pointless  for the inter for  from the interaction point of v point of view .

Yeah. Yeah , unless you know , you like having conversation with your remote control.


yeah comp  completely pointless  for the inter for  from the interaction point of v point of view .

Yeah. Yeah , unless you know , you like having conversation with your remote control.


yeah comp  completely pointless  for the inter for  from the interaction point of v point of view .

Yeah. Yeah , unless you know , you like having conversation with your remote control.

Yeah but the  can we use it for saying okay , channel fifty , channel twenty ?


Yeah. Yeah , unless you know , you like having conversation with your remote control.

Yeah but the  can we use it for saying okay , channel fifty , channel twenty ?

Well yeah , that's the thing , if  you can but  you have to pro though I think it's a fairly simple design so you would have to record into the device every possible combination , you have to s tr train it to l to learn channel fifteen , that whole thing , not just the word channel and the word fifteen , it doesn't have that kind of logic in it.


Yeah but the  can we use it for saying okay , channel fifty , channel twenty ?

Well yeah , that's the thing , if  you can but  you have to pro though I think it's a fairly simple design so you would have to record into the device every possible combination , you have to s tr train it to l to learn channel fifteen , that whole thing , not just the word channel and the word fifteen , it doesn't have that kind of logic in it.

Yeah yeah. So this is so this is this is much more than tak taking this technology , bringing it to the remote control and using it.


Well yeah , that's the thing , if  you can but  you have to pro though I think it's a fairly simple design so you would have to record into the device every possible combination , you have to s tr train it to l to learn channel fifteen , that whole thing , not just the word channel and the word fifteen , it doesn't have that kind of logic in it.

Yeah yeah. So this is so this is this is much more than tak taking this technology , bringing it to the remote control and using it.


Yeah yeah. So this is so this is this is much more than tak taking this technology , bringing it to the remote control and using it.

Yeah , that would be some development work.


Yeah , that would be some development work.

So this is out of discussion. So if if if it is something that you can  we can bring easily and to put it into the banana remote control


So this is out of discussion. So if if if it is something that you can  we can bring easily and to put it into the banana remote control


I uh I I I don't think it's worth it though , I think it doesn't really add much to the functional design and it's it's it's not mature enough to use as a speech recognition engine , so


I uh I I I don't think it's worth it though , I think it doesn't really add much to the functional design and it's it's it's not mature enough to use as a speech recognition engine , so

Um , yeah. So if we can just move on to the next slide , I've just done a quick mock-up of uh uh some of the features of our  potential funky-looking uh remote control


Um , yeah. So if we can just move on to the next slide , I've just done a quick mock-up of uh uh some of the features of our  potential funky-looking uh remote control

Well , you see , I was I was unaware at this point of th of the fruit focus ,


Well , you see , I was I was unaware at this point of th of the fruit focus ,

um , so at the moment it's more of a box focus.


Well , you see , I was I was unaware at this point of th of the fruit focus ,

um , so at the moment it's more of a box focus.

But you you can fit i you're saying now you can fit it to


um , so at the moment it's more of a box focus.

But you you can fit i you're saying now you can fit it to

Looks like a tr look likes a a tro a tropical fruit.


But you you can fit i you're saying now you can fit it to

Looks like a tr look likes a a tro a tropical fruit.

Yeah , well , this is actu this could be a genetically engineered fruit that's designed to be you know square so that it packs tighter in the boxes.


Looks like a tr look likes a a tro a tropical fruit.

Yeah , well , this is actu this could be a genetically engineered fruit that's designed to be you know square so that it packs tighter in the boxes.


Yeah , well , this is actu this could be a genetically engineered fruit that's designed to be you know square so that it packs tighter in the boxes.

But um , I've just indicated here , we could have actually two scroll wheels , 'cause I think the scroll wheel is a fairly um key part of , you know ,


But um , I've just indicated here , we could have actually two scroll wheels , 'cause I think the scroll wheel is a fairly um key part of , you know ,

I think everyone has has agreed that it's  that it could be quite a useful um thing , so.


I think everyone has has agreed that it's  that it could be quite a useful um thing , so.

But I think it's important , you know , to have two scroll wheels because , you know , you want one for for the channel , but you also want one for for the volume ,


But I think it's important , you know , to have two scroll wheels because , you know , you want one for for the channel , but you also want one for for the volume ,

because it's it's  the volume i it's , you know it's very handy for it to have uh instant kind of uh feedback uh and response , so.


because it's it's  the volume i it's , you know it's very handy for it to have uh instant kind of uh feedback uh and response , so.

But um , I've also included this turbo button because I think , you know , every design should have a turbo button , and  well


But um , I've also included this turbo button because I think , you know , every design should have a turbo button , and  well

so this is you know , a unique problem with with televisions is that if you have this scro this scroll wheel for the television , the uh the tuner on the T_V_ is not gonna be able to to switch between stations as fast as you can scroll , so you know , the th the person might want to have a uh  Might want to be able to scroll past television stations without seeing what's on them , in which case it just waits until you stop scrolling and then , you know , displays that station. Or they might want to scroll and and have a quick glimpse of it , even if it lags behind what they're doing .


so this is you know , a unique problem with with televisions is that if you have this scro this scroll wheel for the television , the uh the tuner on the T_V_ is not gonna be able to to switch between stations as fast as you can scroll , so you know , the th the person might want to have a uh  Might want to be able to scroll past television stations without seeing what's on them , in which case it just waits until you stop scrolling and then , you know , displays that station. Or they might want to scroll and and have a quick glimpse of it , even if it lags behind what they're doing .

Yeah , so with this turbo button you can , say , skip over t channels if uh , you know , if I'm if I'm going  if I'm scrolling past them and you know , it's um , you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever.


so this is you know , a unique problem with with televisions is that if you have this scro this scroll wheel for the television , the uh the tuner on the T_V_ is not gonna be able to to switch between stations as fast as you can scroll , so you know , the th the person might want to have a uh  Might want to be able to scroll past television stations without seeing what's on them , in which case it just waits until you stop scrolling and then , you know , displays that station. Or they might want to scroll and and have a quick glimpse of it , even if it lags behind what they're doing .

Yeah , so with this turbo button you can , say , skip over t channels if uh , you know , if I'm if I'm going  if I'm scrolling past them and you know , it's um , you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever.

So yeah , that's um , those are the two important uh features I think we need on the remote ,


Yeah , so with this turbo button you can , say , skip over t channels if uh , you know , if I'm if I'm going  if I'm scrolling past them and you know , it's um , you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever.

So yeah , that's um , those are the two important uh features I think we need on the remote ,


Yeah , so with this turbo button you can , say , skip over t channels if uh , you know , if I'm if I'm going  if I'm scrolling past them and you know , it's um , you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever.

So yeah , that's um , those are the two important uh features I think we need on the remote ,

but I mean we can discuss about what other kind of buttons we need , um. You know , i it could be , you know , if we if we wanna have like a very cheap kind of device , I mean , we could either consider that maybe we want to sell this as a very , if it's gonna be a banana , you know that's a pretty gimmicky kind of thing that doesn't have that much functionality , it's just you know a couple of scroll wheels and a button cause it's hard to get so many buttons on a banana


So yeah , that's um , those are the two important uh features I think we need on the remote ,

but I mean we can discuss about what other kind of buttons we need , um. You know , i it could be , you know , if we if we wanna have like a very cheap kind of device , I mean , we could either consider that maybe we want to sell this as a very , if it's gonna be a banana , you know that's a pretty gimmicky kind of thing that doesn't have that much functionality , it's just you know a couple of scroll wheels and a button cause it's hard to get so many buttons on a banana


but I mean we can discuss about what other kind of buttons we need , um. You know , i it could be , you know , if we if we wanna have like a very cheap kind of device , I mean , we could either consider that maybe we want to sell this as a very , if it's gonna be a banana , you know that's a pretty gimmicky kind of thing that doesn't have that much functionality , it's just you know a couple of scroll wheels and a button cause it's hard to get so many buttons on a banana

and it's still very  it may even be for most  for some people more functional than their current remote , but if they have these scroll wheels , so , um  you know , what other buttons do we want ?


and it's still very  it may even be for most  for some people more functional than their current remote , but if they have these scroll wheels , so , um  you know , what other buttons do we want ?

I mean we could have  well , I guess you need an on and off switch ,


I mean we could have  well , I guess you need an on and off switch ,

but you could you could o you could turn it turn it on by taking the top off the banana maybe , you know , it's kind of like a spy kind of flick thing.


I mean we could have  well , I guess you need an on and off switch ,

but you could you could o you could turn it turn it on by taking the top off the banana maybe , you know , it's kind of like a spy kind of flick thing.

Yeah. So sounds crazy. I like crazy ideas.


but you could you could o you could turn it turn it on by taking the top off the banana maybe , you know , it's kind of like a spy kind of flick thing.

Yeah. So sounds crazy. I like crazy ideas.


Yeah. So sounds crazy. I like crazy ideas.


So i it looks like we're going completely to forget about the L_C_D_ thing.


So i it looks like we're going completely to forget about the L_C_D_ thing.

Well , that's the thing , as  have we decided that we can only spend , uh , twenty five Euro ?


So i it looks like we're going completely to forget about the L_C_D_ thing.

Well , that's the thing , as  have we decided that we can only spend , uh , twenty five Euro ?

Well not spend , but you know , charge twenty five Euro.


Well , that's the thing , as  have we decided that we can only spend , uh , twenty five Euro ?

Well not spend , but you know , charge twenty five Euro.

I I think we could use somehow the s coffee machine dialogue interface or so.


Well not spend , but you know , charge twenty five Euro.

I I think we could use somehow the s coffee machine dialogue interface or so.


I I think we could use somehow the s coffee machine dialogue interface or so.

We can't use that to to comman co communicate ,


We can't use that to to comman co communicate ,


We can't use that to to comman co communicate ,

Yeah , but we can say channel twenty five.


Yeah , but we can say channel twenty five.


But then you have to have a template for every channel , for a hundred channels , you have to be able to to recognize


But then you have to have a template for every channel , for a hundred channels , you have to be able to to recognize

Mm. Well , I f I think it's probably more than , than our  can handle because it's designed for a coffee machine , you know , to say hello in the morning.


Mm. Well , I f I think it's probably more than , than our  can handle because it's designed for a coffee machine , you know , to say hello in the morning.


Mm. Well , I f I think it's probably more than , than our  can handle because it's designed for a coffee machine , you know , to say hello in the morning.

Ah , it's designed for a cof  okay. Is it design for a coffee machine ?


Ah , it's designed for a cof  okay. Is it design for a coffee machine ?

Well that's its current application , I would presume that it's kind of , they wouldn't design it to handle a hundred things th so.


Ah , it's designed for a cof  okay. Is it design for a coffee machine ?

Well that's its current application , I would presume that it's kind of , they wouldn't design it to handle a hundred things th so.

Okay.  Yeah. Maybe you could ask your  the  you could ask the engineering department if we can


Well that's its current application , I would presume that it's kind of , they wouldn't design it to handle a hundred things th so.

Okay.  Yeah. Maybe you could ask your  the  you could ask the engineering department if we can


Okay.  Yeah. Maybe you could ask your  the  you could ask the engineering department if we can


Well I just I just made the point , I don't I don't know if that speech recognition is , you know , even if we can do it , I think it's not really appropriate for uh television environment.


Well I just I just made the point , I don't I don't know if that speech recognition is , you know , even if we can do it , I think it's not really appropriate for uh television environment.

But um I did have one thing from a previous meeting , you were talking about um being able to find the remote control


But um I did have one thing from a previous meeting , you were talking about um being able to find the remote control

and I was talking about extendin being able to extend the remote control by having you know , a base station that can control other things as well.


and I was talking about extendin being able to extend the remote control by having you know , a base station that can control other things as well.

It might be useful to have some kind of base station , even if it's just you press on a button on it and uh and the remote control starts beeping , you know , this is a way of finding the remote.


It might be useful to have some kind of base station , even if it's just you press on a button on it and uh and the remote control starts beeping , you know , this is a way of finding the remote.

Y in that case maybe the maybe the speech recognition  the speech thing could be useful just to say I'm here


Y in that case maybe the maybe the speech recognition  the speech thing could be useful just to say I'm here

but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a a beeping


Y in that case maybe the maybe the speech recognition  the speech thing could be useful just to say I'm here

but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a a beeping

So it's a speech synthesis kind of thing ,


but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a a beeping

So it's a speech synthesis kind of thing ,


but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a a beeping

So it's a speech synthesis kind of thing ,

something has been uh stored and it's just uh spoken out.


So it's a speech synthesis kind of thing ,

something has been uh stored and it's just uh spoken out.

It's it's speech synthesis and s it's speech kind of , not really speech recognition , but kind of pattern matching , yeah


something has been uh stored and it's just uh spoken out.

It's it's speech synthesis and s it's speech kind of , not really speech recognition , but kind of pattern matching , yeah


It's it's speech synthesis and s it's speech kind of , not really speech recognition , but kind of pattern matching , yeah


So this is going to be about the component design.


So this is going to be about the component design.

So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies , one is the usual batteries which are there , they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells , when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your  if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces , there should be some flexibility in t


So this is going to be about the component design.

So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies , one is the usual batteries which are there , they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells , when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your  if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces , there should be some flexibility in t

I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.


So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies , one is the usual batteries which are there , they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells , when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your  if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces , there should be some flexibility in t

I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.


So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies , one is the usual batteries which are there , they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells , when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your  if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces , there should be some flexibility in t

I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.

Yeah. So there should  we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.


I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.

Yeah. So there should  we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.

So , just one second , when you say double curve , what do you actually mean ? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the , on the whiteboard 'cause I'm not sure


Yeah. So there should  we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.

So , just one second , when you say double curve , what do you actually mean ? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the , on the whiteboard 'cause I'm not sure

Double curve is , you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing , whatever it is.


Yeah. So there should  we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.

So , just one second , when you say double curve , what do you actually mean ? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the , on the whiteboard 'cause I'm not sure

Double curve is , you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing , whatever it is.

Okay , but like , kind of convex or concave ?


So , just one second , when you say double curve , what do you actually mean ? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the , on the whiteboard 'cause I'm not sure

Double curve is , you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing , whatever it is.

Okay , but like , kind of convex or concave ?

So , it could be curve , so it could be convex , conve concave , depending on what what we want.


Double curve is , you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing , whatever it is.

Okay , but like , kind of convex or concave ?

So , it could be curve , so it could be convex , conve concave , depending on what what we want.


Okay , but like , kind of convex or concave ?

So , it could be curve , so it could be convex , conve concave , depending on what what we want.


So , it could be curve , so it could be convex , conve concave , depending on what what we want.

So there are flats , there are single curve and there are double curves.


So there are flats , there are single curve and there are double curves.


So there are flats , there are single curve and there are double curves.

These are the three things , and there are different materials , with plastic you can have double curve but with uh certain other materials we cannot have double curve. So there there was uh there were many other materials like wood , titanium and all those things , but plastic is I think is the most appropriate one ,


These are the three things , and there are different materials , with plastic you can have double curve but with uh certain other materials we cannot have double curve. So there there was uh there were many other materials like wood , titanium and all those things , but plastic is I think is the most appropriate one ,


These are the three things , and there are different materials , with plastic you can have double curve but with uh certain other materials we cannot have double curve. So there there was uh there were many other materials like wood , titanium and all those things , but plastic is I think is the most appropriate one ,

Although , you know , wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option ,


Although , you know , wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option ,


Although , you know , wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option ,

if you take like , nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you kind of put some , some varnish on.


Although , you know , wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option ,

if you take like , nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you kind of put some , some varnish on.

Mm but i but there is no elasticity which could be


if you take like , nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you kind of put some , some varnish on.

Mm but i but there is no elasticity which could be


if you take like , nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you kind of put some , some varnish on.

Mm but i but there is no elasticity which could be

Well it depends , I mean , you have the outs the wood itself is not gonna break so you don't have to worry too much about the case being broken ,


Mm but i but there is no elasticity which could be

Well it depends , I mean , you have the outs the wood itself is not gonna break so you don't have to worry too much about the case being broken ,


Well it depends , I mean , you have the outs the wood itself is not gonna break so you don't have to worry too much about the case being broken ,

it's the inside. Yeah but inside you know you could have  you can still have some kind of cushioning that's not visible to the to the user.


it's the inside. Yeah but inside you know you could have  you can still have some kind of cushioning that's not visible to the to the user.


And I mean you could also , you can have just a very thin veneer of wood as well.


And I mean you could also , you can have just a very thin veneer of wood as well.

Yeah but it's more easier to do a banana in plastic than uh in wood.


And I mean you could also , you can have just a very thin veneer of wood as well.

Yeah but it's more easier to do a banana in plastic than uh in wood.

That's true , but are we set on the banana idea ?


Yeah but it's more easier to do a banana in plastic than uh in wood.

That's true , but are we set on the banana idea ?


That's true , but are we set on the banana idea ?

it looks like you are all targeting that


it looks like you are all targeting that


it looks like you are all targeting that

the shape of a banana is not it's not really handy.


the shape of a banana is not it's not really handy.


the shape of a banana is not it's not really handy.

Uh I don't know the name o o in English uh   This


Uh I don't know the name o o in English uh   This


Yeah , okay , so capsicum or pepper. Yeah.


And it's al it also suits with the double curve for easy of


And it's al it also suits with the double curve for easy of

I don't know , it seems a little bit kind of bulky to me , like


I don't know , it seems a little bit kind of bulky to me , like


you you think it's really fancy and fun ? You think that young people that are


Banana is more handier as compared to this I think , and to capsicum.


Banana is more handier as compared to this I think , and to capsicum.

But  like a banana you can you can be holding like this and have the scroll wheel kind of on top


But  like a banana you can you can be holding like this and have the scroll wheel kind of on top

and just roll it back and forth like that ,


and just roll it back and forth like that ,

but with uh  I don't know how you would hold a capsicum and


and just roll it back and forth like that ,

but with uh  I don't know how you would hold a capsicum and

it's really ergonomic , it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to  to put the controls.


but with uh  I don't know how you would hold a capsicum and

it's really ergonomic , it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to  to put the controls.


it's really ergonomic , it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to  to put the controls.


Okay , so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated , just  and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection , volume control and teletext browsing. These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company and we we can go ahead with that.


Okay , so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated , just  and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection , volume control and teletext browsing. These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company and we we can go ahead with that.

Yeah , we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips , one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us , that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support , so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.


Okay , so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated , just  and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection , volume control and teletext browsing. These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company and we we can go ahead with that.

Yeah , we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips , one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us , that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support , so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.

So is that , when you say speaker support , you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind of


Yeah , we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips , one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us , that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support , so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.

So is that , when you say speaker support , you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind of


Yeah , we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips , one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us , that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support , so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.

So is that , when you say speaker support , you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind of

Okay , but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way , or is just the the signal ?


So is that , when you say speaker support , you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind of

Okay , but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way , or is just the the signal ?

Yes , yes , that's right , it's it's onto the chip ,


Okay , but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way , or is just the the signal ?

Yes , yes , that's right , it's it's onto the chip ,


Okay , but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way , or is just the the signal ?

Yes , yes , that's right , it's it's onto the chip ,

most most probably , not not hundred per cent sure about that.


Yes , yes , that's right , it's it's onto the chip ,

most most probably , not not hundred per cent sure about that.

Okay. So are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana ?


most most probably , not not hundred per cent sure about that.

Okay. So are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana ?

That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be  whatever will be the case , the chip is always going to be sitting inside.


most most probably , not not hundred per cent sure about that.

Okay. So are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana ?

That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be  whatever will be the case , the chip is always going to be sitting inside.

Okay. Yeah , but the speaker , if the speaker is actually on the chip , then if it's too far away from the the casing , or if the casing is too thick , then you may not hear the the speaker.


Okay. So are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana ?

That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be  whatever will be the case , the chip is always going to be sitting inside.

Okay. Yeah , but the speaker , if the speaker is actually on the chip , then if it's too far away from the the casing , or if the casing is too thick , then you may not hear the the speaker.

Mm-hmm. Uh , so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.


That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be  whatever will be the case , the chip is always going to be sitting inside.

Okay. Yeah , but the speaker , if the speaker is actually on the chip , then if it's too far away from the the casing , or if the casing is too thick , then you may not hear the the speaker.

Mm-hmm. Uh , so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.


Okay. Yeah , but the speaker , if the speaker is actually on the chip , then if it's too far away from the the casing , or if the casing is too thick , then you may not hear the the speaker.

Mm-hmm. Uh , so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.

As  or as hearing is concerned , we can have some gap at some place ,


Mm-hmm. Uh , so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.

As  or as hearing is concerned , we can have some gap at some place ,

Yeah. So that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the the speaker close enough to the outside.


As  or as hearing is concerned , we can have some gap at some place ,

Yeah. So that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the the speaker close enough to the outside.

so that  That's right. Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web , that user wants to have control more than one device  wants to control more than one device from the same remote control , so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_ , because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything , so with this additional little , we might be having slightly better market for us.


As  or as hearing is concerned , we can have some gap at some place ,

Yeah. So that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the the speaker close enough to the outside.

so that  That's right. Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web , that user wants to have control more than one device  wants to control more than one device from the same remote control , so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_ , because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything , so with this additional little , we might be having slightly better market for us.

Although , if  It depends , if we like , if we are concentrating on like a fruit design , then maybe maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit , you know , like a different fruit for each device.


Yeah. So that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the the speaker close enough to the outside.

so that  That's right. Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web , that user wants to have control more than one device  wants to control more than one device from the same remote control , so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_ , because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything , so with this additional little , we might be having slightly better market for us.

Although , if  It depends , if we like , if we are concentrating on like a fruit design , then maybe maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit , you know , like a different fruit for each device.


so that  That's right. Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web , that user wants to have control more than one device  wants to control more than one device from the same remote control , so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_ , because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything , so with this additional little , we might be having slightly better market for us.

Although , if  It depends , if we like , if we are concentrating on like a fruit design , then maybe maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit , you know , like a different fruit for each device.

Cause that , you know , that  sometimes people like to collect um you know things that  of a similar type.


Although , if  It depends , if we like , if we are concentrating on like a fruit design , then maybe maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit , you know , like a different fruit for each device.

Cause that , you know , that  sometimes people like to collect um you know things that  of a similar type.


Cause that , you know , that  sometimes people like to collect um you know things that  of a similar type.


I think that would be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits.


I think that would be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits.

Well ,  you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the first place.


I think that would be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits.

Well ,  you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the first place.

No but I think just one fruit to control everything.


Well ,  you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the first place.

No but I think just one fruit to control everything.

A power fr a power M a Mando , a Supermando fruit .


No but I think just one fruit to control everything.

A power fr a power M a Mando , a Supermando fruit .

And uh as well as I could see on the web the scroll button is becoming really uh hot thing s


A power fr a power M a Mando , a Supermando fruit .

And uh as well as I could see on the web the scroll button is becoming really uh hot thing s


And uh as well as I could see on the web the scroll button is becoming really uh hot thing s


Actually I I didn't understand very well this trace speaker lost control.


Actually I I didn't understand very well this trace speaker lost control.

So you're having a basis station. Okay. Your  usually your remote sits on that. So you  and it's  that's why it can have chargeable batteries. Now let's say