Yeah , absolutely. I mean , the digits don't take up that much time.


Yeah , absolutely. I mean , the digits don't take up that much time.

OK , and the transcribers h I , uh , don't have the exact numbers , but I  think it would come to about eleven hours that are finished uh , transcribing from them right now. The next step is to  that I 'm working on is to insure that the data are clean first , and then channelized. What I mean by clean is that they 're spell - checked , that the mark - up is consistent all the way throughout , and also that we now incorporate these additional conventions that uh , Liz requested in terms of um , um  in terms of having a s a systematic handling of numbers , and acronyms which I hadn't been specific about. Um , for example , i they 'll say uh " ninety - two ". And you know , so how  you could


OK , and the transcribers h I , uh , don't have the exact numbers , but I  think it would come to about eleven hours that are finished uh , transcribing from them right now. The next step is to  that I 'm working on is to insure that the data are clean first , and then channelized. What I mean by clean is that they 're spell - checked , that the mark - up is consistent all the way throughout , and also that we now incorporate these additional conventions that uh , Liz requested in terms of um , um  in terms of having a s a systematic handling of numbers , and acronyms which I hadn't been specific about. Um , for example , i they 'll say uh " ninety - two ". And you know , so how  you could


So if you just say " nine two " , the  there are many s ways that could have been expressed. An - and I just had them  I  I mean , a certain number of them did put the words down , but now we have a convention which also involves having it followed by , um , a gloss th and things.


So if you just say " nine two " , the  there are many s ways that could have been expressed. An - and I just had them  I  I mean , a certain number of them did put the words down , but now we have a convention which also involves having it followed by , um , a gloss th and things.

Um , one suggestion and you may already be doing this , but I 've noticed in the past that when I 've gone through transcriptions and you know in  in order to build lexicons and things , if you um , just take all the transcriptions and separate them into words and then alphabetize them ,  a lot of times just scanning down that list you 'll find a lot of  inconsistencies and mis


Um , one suggestion and you may already be doing this , but I 've noticed in the past that when I 've gone through transcriptions and you know in  in order to build lexicons and things , if you um , just take all the transcriptions and separate them into words and then alphabetize them ,  a lot of times just scanning down that list you 'll find a lot of  inconsistencies and mis


Um , one suggestion and you may already be doing this , but I 've noticed in the past that when I 've gone through transcriptions and you know in  in order to build lexicons and things , if you um , just take all the transcriptions and separate them into words and then alphabetize them ,  a lot of times just scanning down that list you 'll find a lot of  inconsistencies and mis

You 're talking about the type token frequency listings , and I use those too. Y you mean just uh  on each  on each line there 's a one word right ? It 's one token from the  from the corpus.


You 're talking about the type token frequency listings , and I use those too. Y you mean just uh  on each  on each line there 's a one word right ? It 's one token from the  from the corpus.


You 're talking about the type token frequency listings , and I use those too. Y you mean just uh  on each  on each line there 's a one word right ? It 's one token from the  from the corpus.

Yeah , those are e extremely efficient and I and I  I agree that 's a very good use of it.


Yeah , those are e extremely efficient and I and I  I agree that 's a very good use of it.

Well that 's  that 's a way  that 's  You know , the spell - check basically does that but  but in addition  yes , that 's  that 's exactly the strategy I wanna do in terms of locating these things which are you know colloquial spoken forms which aren't in the lexicon.


Yeah , those are e extremely efficient and I and I  I agree that 's a very good use of it.

Well that 's  that 's a way  that 's  You know , the spell - check basically does that but  but in addition  yes , that 's  that 's exactly the strategy I wanna do in terms of locating these things which are you know colloquial spoken forms which aren't in the lexicon.

Mm - hmm. Cuz a lot of times they 'll appear next to each other , and uh ,


Well that 's  that 's a way  that 's  You know , the spell - check basically does that but  but in addition  yes , that 's  that 's exactly the strategy I wanna do in terms of locating these things which are you know colloquial spoken forms which aren't in the lexicon.

Mm - hmm. Cuz a lot of times they 'll appear next to each other , and uh ,

Exactly. And then you ca then you can do a s


Mm - hmm. Cuz a lot of times they 'll appear next to each other , and uh ,

Exactly. And then you ca then you can do a s

i in alphabetized lists , they 'll appear next to each other and  and so it makes it easier.


Exactly. And then you ca then you can do a s

i in alphabetized lists , they 'll appear next to each other and  and so it makes it easier.

Absolutely. I agree. That 's a very good  that 's a very good uh , suggestion. And that was  that 's my strategy for handling a lot of these things , in terms of things that need to be glossed. I didn't get to that point but  So there are numbers , then there are acronyms , and then um , there 's a  he she wants the uh , actually a  an explicit marker of what type of comment this is , so i curly b inside the curly brackets I 'm gonna put either " VOC " for vocalized , like cough or like laugh or whatever , " NONVOC " for door - slam , and " GLOSS " for things that have to do with  if they said a s a spoken form with this  m this pronunciation error.


i in alphabetized lists , they 'll appear next to each other and  and so it makes it easier.

Absolutely. I agree. That 's a very good  that 's a very good uh , suggestion. And that was  that 's my strategy for handling a lot of these things , in terms of things that need to be glossed. I didn't get to that point but  So there are numbers , then there are acronyms , and then um , there 's a  he she wants the uh , actually a  an explicit marker of what type of comment this is , so i curly b inside the curly brackets I 'm gonna put either " VOC " for vocalized , like cough or like laugh or whatever , " NONVOC " for door - slam , and " GLOSS " for things that have to do with  if they said a s a spoken form with this  m this pronunciation error.


Absolutely. I agree. That 's a very good  that 's a very good uh , suggestion. And that was  that 's my strategy for handling a lot of these things , in terms of things that need to be glossed. I didn't get to that point but  So there are numbers , then there are acronyms , and then um , there 's a  he she wants the uh , actually a  an explicit marker of what type of comment this is , so i curly b inside the curly brackets I 'm gonna put either " VOC " for vocalized , like cough or like laugh or whatever , " NONVOC " for door - slam , and " GLOSS " for things that have to do with  if they said a s a spoken form with this  m this pronunciation error.


but I  I haven't been asking these people to do it systematically cuz I think it most  ha most efficiently handled by uh  by a  a filter. That was what I was always planing on. So that , you know you get a whole long list  exactly what you 're saying , you get a whole list of things that say " curly bracket laugh curly bracket " ,


but I  I haven't been asking these people to do it systematically cuz I think it most  ha most efficiently handled by uh  by a  a filter. That was what I was always planing on. So that , you know you get a whole long list  exactly what you 're saying , you get a whole list of things that say " curly bracket laugh curly bracket " ,

then y you know it 's  it 's  You  you risk less error if you handle it by a filter , than if you have this transcriber ch laboriously typing in sort of a VOC space ,


then y you know it 's  it 's  You  you risk less error if you handle it by a filter , than if you have this transcriber ch laboriously typing in sort of a VOC space ,


So , um ,  um I 'm  I 'm going to convert that via a filter , into these tagged uh , subcategorized comments , and same thing with you know , we see you get a subset when you do what you 're saying ,


So , um ,  um I 'm  I 'm going to convert that via a filter , into these tagged uh , subcategorized comments , and same thing with you know , we see you get a subset when you do what you 're saying ,

you end up with a s with uh , you 're collapsing across a frequency you just have the tokens


you end up with a s with uh , you 're collapsing across a frequency you just have the tokens

and you can um , have a filter which more efficiently makes those changes. But the numbers and acronyms have to be handled by hand , because , you know I mean , jus


and you can um , have a filter which more efficiently makes those changes. But the numbers and acronyms have to be handled by hand , because , you know I mean , jus


and you can um , have a filter which more efficiently makes those changes. But the numbers and acronyms have to be handled by hand , because , you know I mean , jus

Yeah now TIMIT 's clear um  and PLP is clear but uh there are things that are not so well known , in  or  or have variant  u u uses like the numbers you can say " nine two " or you can say " ninety - two " ,


Yeah now TIMIT 's clear um  and PLP is clear but uh there are things that are not so well known , in  or  or have variant  u u uses like the numbers you can say " nine two " or you can say " ninety - two " ,


Yeah now TIMIT 's clear um  and PLP is clear but uh there are things that are not so well known , in  or  or have variant  u u uses like the numbers you can say " nine two " or you can say " ninety - two " ,

and uh I 'd handle the numbers individually.


Yeah now TIMIT 's clear um  and PLP is clear but uh there are things that are not so well known , in  or  or have variant  u u uses like the numbers you can say " nine two " or you can say " ninety - two " ,

and uh I 'd handle the numbers individually.

How are you doing the uh , acronyms so if I say PZM what would it appear on the transcript ?


and uh I 'd handle the numbers individually.

How are you doing the uh , acronyms so if I say PZM what would it appear on the transcript ?

It would be separate  The letters would be separated in space


How are you doing the uh , acronyms so if I say PZM what would it appear on the transcript ?

It would be separate  The letters would be separated in space

and potentially they 'll have a curly bracket thing afterwards e but I 'm not sure if that 's necessary , clarifying what it is ,


It would be separate  The letters would be separated in space

and potentially they 'll have a curly bracket thing afterwards e but I 'm not sure if that 's necessary , clarifying what it is ,


and potentially they 'll have a curly bracket thing afterwards e but I 'm not sure if that 's necessary , clarifying what it is ,


I don't know if that 's really necessary to do that. Maybe it 's a nice thing to do because of it then indicating this is uh , a step away from i indicating that it really is intentional that those spaces are there , and indicating why they 're there to indicate that it 's uh  the you know ,  uh enumerated , or i


I don't know if that 's really necessary to do that. Maybe it 's a nice thing to do because of it then indicating this is uh , a step away from i indicating that it really is intentional that those spaces are there , and indicating why they 're there to indicate that it 's uh  the you know ,  uh enumerated , or i

it 's not a good way of saying  but it 's  it 's the  specific uh way of stating these  these letters.


it 's not a good way of saying  but it 's  it 's the  specific uh way of stating these  these letters.

And so anyway , the clean  those are those things and then channelized is to then um , get it into this multichannel format. And at that point then it 's ready for use by Liz and Don. But that 's been my top priority  beyond getting it tanel channelized , the next step is to work on tightening up the boundaries of the time bins.


And so anyway , the clean  those are those things and then channelized is to then um , get it into this multichannel format. And at that point then it 's ready for use by Liz and Don. But that 's been my top priority  beyond getting it tanel channelized , the next step is to work on tightening up the boundaries of the time bins.


And so anyway , the clean  those are those things and then channelized is to then um , get it into this multichannel format. And at that point then it 's ready for use by Liz and Don. But that 's been my top priority  beyond getting it tanel channelized , the next step is to work on tightening up the boundaries of the time bins.

And uh , Thilo had a  e e a breakthrough with this  this last week in terms of getting the channel - based um uh s s speech - nonspeech segmentation um , up and running and I haven't  I haven't been able to use that yet cuz I 'm working s re this is my top priority  get the data clean , and channelized.


And uh , Thilo had a  e e a breakthrough with this  this last week in terms of getting the channel - based um uh s s speech - nonspeech segmentation um , up and running and I haven't  I haven't been able to use that yet cuz I 'm working s re this is my top priority  get the data clean , and channelized.


And uh , Thilo had a  e e a breakthrough with this  this last week in terms of getting the channel - based um uh s s speech - nonspeech segmentation um , up and running and I haven't  I haven't been able to use that yet cuz I 'm working s re this is my top priority  get the data clean , and channelized.

Have you also been doing spot checks , Jane ?


Have you also been doing spot checks , Jane ?


Have you also been doing spot checks , Jane ?

Well you see that 's part of the cleaning process. I spent um actually um I have a segment of ten minutes that was transcribed by two of our transcribers ,


Well you see that 's part of the cleaning process. I spent um actually um I have a segment of ten minutes that was transcribed by two of our transcribers ,


Well you see that 's part of the cleaning process. I spent um actually um I have a segment of ten minutes that was transcribed by two of our transcribers ,

and I went through it last night , it 's  it 's almost spooky how similar these are , word for word. And there are some differences in commas cuz commas I  I left them discretion at commas.


and I went through it last night , it 's  it 's almost spooky how similar these are , word for word. And there are some differences in commas cuz commas I  I left them discretion at commas.

Uh  and so because it 's not part of our st of our ne needed conventions.


Uh  and so because it 's not part of our st of our ne needed conventions.

And um , and  so they 'll be a difference in commas , but it 's word - by - word the same , in  in huge patches of the data. And I have t ten minute stretch where I can  where I can show that. And  and sometimes it turns out that one of these transcribers has a better ear for technical jargon , and the other one has a better ear for colloquial speech. So um , the one i i the colloquial speech person picked up " gobbledy - gook ".


And um , and  so they 'll be a difference in commas , but it 's word - by - word the same , in  in huge patches of the data. And I have t ten minute stretch where I can  where I can show that. And  and sometimes it turns out that one of these transcribers has a better ear for technical jargon , and the other one has a better ear for colloquial speech. So um , the one i i the colloquial speech person picked up " gobbledy - gook ".

And the other one didn't. And on this side , this one 's picking up things like " neural nets " and the one that 's good on the sp o on th the vocabulary on the uh colloquial didn't.


And the other one didn't. And on this side , this one 's picking up things like " neural nets " and the one that 's good on the sp o on th the vocabulary on the uh colloquial didn't.

When  for the person who missed " gobbledy - gook " what did they put ?


And the other one didn't. And on this side , this one 's picking up things like " neural nets " and the one that 's good on the sp o on th the vocabulary on the uh colloquial didn't.

When  for the person who missed " gobbledy - gook " what did they put ?

It was an interesting approximation , put in parentheses , cuz I have this convention that , i if they 're not sure what it was , they put it in parentheses.


When  for the person who missed " gobbledy - gook " what did they put ?

It was an interesting approximation , put in parentheses , cuz I have this convention that , i if they 're not sure what it was , they put it in parentheses.


When  for the person who missed " gobbledy - gook " what did they put ?

It was an interesting approximation , put in parentheses , cuz I have this convention that , i if they 're not sure what it was , they put it in parentheses.

So they tried to approximate it , but it was


It was an interesting approximation , put in parentheses , cuz I have this convention that , i if they 're not sure what it was , they put it in parentheses.

So they tried to approximate it , but it was


So they tried to approximate it , but it was


Yes. More of an attempt to  I mean apparently it was very clear to her that these  the a this  this was a sound  these are the sounds ,


Yes. More of an attempt to  I mean apparently it was very clear to her that these  the a this  this was a sound  these are the sounds ,

It was a technical term that she didn't recognize ,


Yes. More of an attempt to  I mean apparently it was very clear to her that these  the a this  this was a sound  these are the sounds ,

It was a technical term that she didn't recognize ,

but  Yeah. But she knew that she didn't know it. Maybe it was a technical ter exactly. But she  even though her technical perception is just really  uh you know I 've  I 'm tempted to ask her if she 's taken any courses in this area or if she 's taken cognitive science courses


It was a technical term that she didn't recognize ,

but  Yeah. But she knew that she didn't know it. Maybe it was a technical ter exactly. But she  even though her technical perception is just really  uh you know I 've  I 'm tempted to ask her if she 's taken any courses in this area or if she 's taken cognitive science courses


but  Yeah. But she knew that she didn't know it. Maybe it was a technical ter exactly. But she  even though her technical perception is just really  uh you know I 've  I 'm tempted to ask her if she 's taken any courses in this area or if she 's taken cognitive science courses

then cuz " neural nets " and  oh she has some things that are  oh " downsampled " , she got that right.


then cuz " neural nets " and  oh she has some things that are  oh " downsampled " , she got that right.

And some of these are rather  uh unexpected.


And some of these are rather  uh unexpected.

But ch ten solid uh  m ch s chunk of ten solid minutes where they both coded the same data.


And some of these are rather  uh unexpected.

But ch ten solid uh  m ch s chunk of ten solid minutes where they both coded the same data.

And  and again the main track that you 're working with is elev eleven hours ?


But ch ten solid uh  m ch s chunk of ten solid minutes where they both coded the same data.

And  and again the main track that you 're working with is elev eleven hours ?


And  and again the main track that you 're working with is elev eleven hours ?


Is that  is that  that including digits ? Yeah.


Is that  is that  that including digits ? Yeah.

So let 's say roughly  ten hours or so of


So let 's say roughly  ten hours or so of

I mean it 's probably more than that but  but with  of  of non - digits.


I mean it 's probably more than that but  but with  of  of non - digits.

It 'd be more than that because I  my recollection is the minutes  that da digits don't take more than half a minute. Per person.


It 'd be more than that because I  my recollection is the minutes  that da digits don't take more than half a minute. Per person.

But um  the  the total set that I gave them is twelve hours of tape ,


But um  the  the total set that I gave them is twelve hours of tape ,

But they haven't gotten to the end of that yet.


But they haven't gotten to the end of that yet.

So they 're still working  some of them are  Two of them are still working on completing that. Yeah.


So they 're still working  some of them are  Two of them are still working on completing that. Yeah.


So they 're still working  some of them are  Two of them are still working on completing that. Yeah.

Yeah. They are. Mm - hmm. They 're very efficient. There 're some who have more hours that they devote to it than others.


Yeah. They are. Mm - hmm. They 're very efficient. There 're some who have more hours that they devote to it than others.


So what  what  what 's the deal with  with your


So what  what  what 's the deal with  with your

Oh , it 's just uh , I ran the recognizer  uh , the   speech - nonspeech detector on different channels and , it 's just in uh  in this new multi - channel format and output , and I just gave one  one meeting to  to Liz who wanted to  to try it for  for the recognizer


Oh , it 's just uh , I ran the recognizer  uh , the   speech - nonspeech detector on different channels and , it 's just in uh  in this new multi - channel format and output , and I just gave one  one meeting to  to Liz who wanted to  to try it for  for the recognizer


Oh , it 's just uh , I ran the recognizer  uh , the   speech - nonspeech detector on different channels and , it 's just in uh  in this new multi - channel format and output , and I just gave one  one meeting to  to Liz who wanted to  to try it for  for the recognizer

as uh , apparently the recognizer had problems with those long chunks of speech , which took too much memory or whatever ,


as uh , apparently the recognizer had problems with those long chunks of speech , which took too much memory or whatever ,


and  I 'm  I 'm working on it. So , I hope


and  I 'm  I 'm working on it. So , I hope

Is this anything different than the HMM system you were using before ?


and  I 'm  I 'm working on it. So , I hope

Is this anything different than the HMM system you were using before ?

No. Uh , I  mmm , use some  some different features but not  not


Is this anything different than the HMM system you were using before ?

No. Uh , I  mmm , use some  some different features but not  not


No. Uh , I  mmm , use some  some different features but not  not


No. Uh , I  mmm , use some  some different features but not  not

So there 's still no  no knowledge using different channels at the same time.


So there 's still no  no knowledge using different channels at the same time.

There is some , uh as the energy is normalized across channels


So there 's still no  no knowledge using different channels at the same time.

There is some , uh as the energy is normalized across channels

You know what I mean ? Across all of them.


There is some , uh as the energy is normalized across channels

You know what I mean ? Across all of them.


You know what I mean ? Across all of them.

So. But basically that 's one of the main changes.


So. But basically that 's one of the main changes.


So. But basically that 's one of the main changes.

Mm - hmm. What are some of the other features ? Besides the energy ? You said you 're trying some different features , or something.


So. But basically that 's one of the main changes.

Mm - hmm. What are some of the other features ? Besides the energy ? You said you 're trying some different features , or something.

Oh I just uh   Mmm , I just use um our loudness - based things now as they  before there were  they were some in  in the log domain and I  I changed this to the  to the


Mm - hmm. What are some of the other features ? Besides the energy ? You said you 're trying some different features , or something.

Oh I just uh   Mmm , I just use um our loudness - based things now as they  before there were  they were some in  in the log domain and I  I changed this to the  to the


Mm - hmm. What are some of the other features ? Besides the energy ? You said you 're trying some different features , or something.

Oh I just uh   Mmm , I just use um our loudness - based things now as they  before there were  they were some in  in the log domain and I  I changed this to the  to the

Yeah. To  No , I changed this to the  to the  to the loudness thingy with the  with the


Oh I just uh   Mmm , I just use um our loudness - based things now as they  before there were  they were some in  in the log domain and I  I changed this to the  to the

Yeah. To  No , I changed this to the  to the  to the loudness thingy with the  with the


Yeah. To  No , I changed this to the  to the  to the loudness thingy with the  with the


Yeah. To  No , I changed this to the  to the  to the loudness thingy with the  with the

how do you call it ? I 'm not sure. With the , uh


how do you call it ? I 'm not sure. With the , uh


Uh , I 'll look it up. And say it to you.


Uh , I 'll look it up. And say it to you.

Uh , OK , and  Yeah. That 's  that 's basically the  the  the thing. Yeah , and I  and I tried t to normalize uh  uh the features , there 's loudness and modified loudness , um , within one channel ,


Uh , OK , and  Yeah. That 's  that 's basically the  the  the thing. Yeah , and I  and I tried t to normalize uh  uh the features , there 's loudness and modified loudness , um , within one channel ,

because they 're ,  yeah to  to be able to distinguish between foreground and background speech. And it works quite well. But , not always.


because they 're ,  yeah to  to be able to distinguish between foreground and background speech. And it works quite well. But , not always.


Um , let 's see. I think the uh  Were  were you basically done with the transcription part ? So I guess the next thing is this uh  bleep editing.


Um , let 's see. I think the uh  Were  were you basically done with the transcription part ? So I guess the next thing is this uh  bleep editing.

Right. So the  The idea is that we need to have  We need to provide the transcripts to every participant of every meeting to give them an opportunity to bleep out sections they don't want. So I 've written a bunch of tools that will generate web pages , uh with the transcription in it so that they can click on them and piece  pieces and they can scroll through and read them , and then they can check on each one if they want it excluded. And then , it 's a form , HTML form , so they can submit it and it will end up sending me email with the times that they want excluded. And so , uh , some of the questions on this is what do we do about the privacy issue. And so I thought about this a little bit and I think the best way to do it is every participant will have a password ,


Um , let 's see. I think the uh  Were  were you basically done with the transcription part ? So I guess the next thing is this uh  bleep editing.

Right. So the  The idea is that we need to have  We need to provide the transcripts to every participant of every meeting to give them an opportunity to bleep out sections they don't want. So I 've written a bunch of tools that will generate web pages , uh with the transcription in it so that they can click on them and piece  pieces and they can scroll through and read them , and then they can check on each one if they want it excluded. And then , it 's a form , HTML form , so they can submit it and it will end up sending me email with the times that they want excluded. And so , uh , some of the questions on this is what do we do about the privacy issue. And so I thought about this a little bit and I think the best way to do it is every participant will have a password ,

a single password. Each person will have a single password , user name and password. And then each meeting , we 'll only allow the participants who were at that meeting to look at it. And that way each person only has to remember one password.


Right. So the  The idea is that we need to have  We need to provide the transcripts to every participant of every meeting to give them an opportunity to bleep out sections they don't want. So I 've written a bunch of tools that will generate web pages , uh with the transcription in it so that they can click on them and piece  pieces and they can scroll through and read them , and then they can check on each one if they want it excluded. And then , it 's a form , HTML form , so they can submit it and it will end up sending me email with the times that they want excluded. And so , uh , some of the questions on this is what do we do about the privacy issue. And so I thought about this a little bit and I think the best way to do it is every participant will have a password ,

a single password. Each person will have a single password , user name and password. And then each meeting , we 'll only allow the participants who were at that meeting to look at it. And that way each person only has to remember one password.

I  I can't help but wonder if this is maybe a little more elaborate than is needed. I mean if people have  Uh , I mean , for me I would actually want to have some pieces of paper that had the transcription and I would sort of flip through it. And then  um  if I thought it was OK , I 'd say " it 's OK ".


a single password. Each person will have a single password , user name and password. And then each meeting , we 'll only allow the participants who were at that meeting to look at it. And that way each person only has to remember one password.

I  I can't help but wonder if this is maybe a little more elaborate than is needed. I mean if people have  Uh , I mean , for me I would actually want to have some pieces of paper that had the transcription and I would sort of flip through it. And then  um  if I thought it was OK , I 'd say " it 's OK ".


a single password. Each person will have a single password , user name and password. And then each meeting , we 'll only allow the participants who were at that meeting to look at it. And that way each person only has to remember one password.

I  I can't help but wonder if this is maybe a little more elaborate than is needed. I mean if people have  Uh , I mean , for me I would actually want to have some pieces of paper that had the transcription and I would sort of flip through it. And then  um  if I thought it was OK , I 'd say " it 's OK ".

And , I  uh  I mean it depends how this really ends up working out , but I guess my thought was that the occasion of somebody wondering whether something was OK or not and needing to listen to it was gonna be extremely rare.


I  I can't help but wonder if this is maybe a little more elaborate than is needed. I mean if people have  Uh , I mean , for me I would actually want to have some pieces of paper that had the transcription and I would sort of flip through it. And then  um  if I thought it was OK , I 'd say " it 's OK ".

And , I  uh  I mean it depends how this really ends up working out , but I guess my thought was that the occasion of somebody wondering whether something was OK or not and needing to listen to it was gonna be extremely rare.

Right , I mean so th th th the fact that you could listen to it over the web is a minor thing that I had already done for  other reasons.


And , I  uh  I mean it depends how this really ends up working out , but I guess my thought was that the occasion of somebody wondering whether something was OK or not and needing to listen to it was gonna be extremely rare.

Right , I mean so th th th the fact that you could listen to it over the web is a minor thing that I had already done for  other reasons.


And , I  uh  I mean it depends how this really ends up working out , but I guess my thought was that the occasion of somebody wondering whether something was OK or not and needing to listen to it was gonna be extremely rare.

Right , I mean so th th th the fact that you could listen to it over the web is a minor thing that I had already done for  other reasons.

And so that  that 's a minor part of it , I just wanted some web interface so that people  you didn't actually have to send everyone the text. So m what my intention to do is that as the transcripts become ready , um  I would take them , and generate the web pages and send email to every participant or contact them using the contact method they wanted , and just uh , tell them , " here 's the web page " , um , " you need a password ". So th th question number one is how do we distribute the passwords , and question number two is how else do we wanna provide this information if they want it.


Right , I mean so th th th the fact that you could listen to it over the web is a minor thing that I had already done for  other reasons.

And so that  that 's a minor part of it , I just wanted some web interface so that people  you didn't actually have to send everyone the text. So m what my intention to do is that as the transcripts become ready , um  I would take them , and generate the web pages and send email to every participant or contact them using the contact method they wanted , and just uh , tell them , " here 's the web page " , um , " you need a password ". So th th question number one is how do we distribute the passwords , and question number two is how else do we wanna provide this information if they want it.

That 's  I think what I was sort of saying is that if you just say  " here is a  here is  " I mean this maybe it sounds paleolithic but  but I just thought if you handed them some sheets of paper , that said , uh , " here 's what was said in this transcription is it OK with you ? and if it is , here 's this other sheet of paper that you sign that says that it 's OK ".


And so that  that 's a minor part of it , I just wanted some web interface so that people  you didn't actually have to send everyone the text. So m what my intention to do is that as the transcripts become ready , um  I would take them , and generate the web pages and send email to every participant or contact them using the contact method they wanted , and just uh , tell them , " here 's the web page " , um , " you need a password ". So th th question number one is how do we distribute the passwords , and question number two is how else do we wanna provide this information if they want it.

That 's  I think what I was sort of saying is that if you just say  " here is a  here is  " I mean this maybe it sounds paleolithic but  but I just thought if you handed them some sheets of paper , that said , uh , " here 's what was said in this transcription is it OK with you ? and if it is , here 's this other sheet of paper that you sign that says that it 's OK ".

I think that um there are a subset of people who will want printouts that we can certainly provide.


That 's  I think what I was sort of saying is that if you just say  " here is a  here is  " I mean this maybe it sounds paleolithic but  but I just thought if you handed them some sheets of paper , that said , uh , " here 's what was said in this transcription is it OK with you ? and if it is , here 's this other sheet of paper that you sign that says that it 's OK ".

I think that um there are a subset of people who will want printouts that we can certainly provide.

But certainly I wouldn't want a printout. These are big , and I would much rather be  ha be able to just sit and leaf through it.


I think that um there are a subset of people who will want printouts that we can certainly provide.

But certainly I wouldn't want a printout. These are big , and I would much rather be  ha be able to just sit and leaf through it.

You find it easier to go through a large  I mean how do you read books ?


But certainly I wouldn't want a printout. These are big , and I would much rather be  ha be able to just sit and leaf through it.

You find it easier to go through a large  I mean how do you read books ?

Well I certainly read books by hand. But for something like this , I think it 's easier to do it on the web.


You find it easier to go through a large  I mean how do you read books ?

Well I certainly read books by hand. But for something like this , I think it 's easier to do it on the web.

Cuz you 're gonna get , you know , if I  I 'm  I 'm in a bunch of meetings and I don't wanna get a stack of these. I wanna just be able to go to  go to the web site  and visit it as I want.


Well I certainly read books by hand. But for something like this , I think it 's easier to do it on the web.

Cuz you 're gonna get , you know , if I  I 'm  I 'm in a bunch of meetings and I don't wanna get a stack of these. I wanna just be able to go to  go to the web site  and visit it as I want.

Going to a web site is easy , but flipping through a hundred pounds  a hundred pages of stuff is not easy on the web.


Cuz you 're gonna get , you know , if I  I 'm  I 'm in a bunch of meetings and I don't wanna get a stack of these. I wanna just be able to go to  go to the web site  and visit it as I want.

Going to a web site is easy , but flipping through a hundred pounds  a hundred pages of stuff is not easy on the web.

Well , I don't think it 's that much harder than , paper. So.


Going to a web site is easy , but flipping through a hundred pounds  a hundred pages of stuff is not easy on the web.

Well , I don't think it 's that much harder than , paper. So.

I have one question. So are you thinking that um the person would have a transcript and go strictly from the transcript ? Because I  I do think that there 's a benefit to being able to hear the tone of voice and the


Well , I don't think it 's that much harder than , paper. So.

I have one question. So are you thinking that um the person would have a transcript and go strictly from the transcript ? Because I  I do think that there 's a benefit to being able to hear the tone of voice and the

So here 's the way I was imagining it , and maybe I 'm wrong ,


I have one question. So are you thinking that um the person would have a transcript and go strictly from the transcript ? Because I  I do think that there 's a benefit to being able to hear the tone of voice and the

So here 's the way I was imagining it , and maybe I 'm wrong ,


I have one question. So are you thinking that um the person would have a transcript and go strictly from the transcript ? Because I  I do think that there 's a benefit to being able to hear the tone of voice and the

So here 's the way I was imagining it , and maybe I 'm wrong ,

but the way I imagined it was that um , the largest set of people is gonna go " oh yeah , I didn't say anything funny in that meeting just go ahead , where 's the  where 's the release ? " And then there 'll be a subset of people , right ?  OK there 's  I mean think of who it is we 've been recording mostly.


So here 's the way I was imagining it , and maybe I 'm wrong ,

but the way I imagined it was that um , the largest set of people is gonna go " oh yeah , I didn't say anything funny in that meeting just go ahead , where 's the  where 's the release ? " And then there 'll be a subset of people , right ?  OK there 's  I mean think of who it is we 've been recording mostly.


but the way I imagined it was that um , the largest set of people is gonna go " oh yeah , I didn't say anything funny in that meeting just go ahead , where 's the  where 's the release ? " And then there 'll be a subset of people , right ?  OK there 's  I mean think of who it is we 've been recording mostly.

OK there 'll be a subset of people , who um , will say uh " well , yeah , I really would like to see that. " And for them , the easiest way to flip through , if it 's a really large document , I mean unless you 're searching. Searching , of course , should be electronic , but if you 're not  so if you provide some search mechanism you go to every place they said something or something like that ,


OK there 'll be a subset of people , who um , will say uh " well , yeah , I really would like to see that. " And for them , the easiest way to flip through , if it 's a really large document , I mean unless you 're searching. Searching , of course , should be electronic , but if you 're not  so if you provide some search mechanism you go to every place they said something or something like that ,

but see then we 're getting more elaborate with this thing. Um if  if uh you don't have search mechanisms you just sort of have this really , really long document , I mean whenever I 've had a really , really long document that it was sitting on the web , I 've always ended up printing it out. I mean , so it 's  it 's  I mean , you  you 're  you 're not necessarily gonna be sitting at the desk all the time , you wanna figure you have a train ride , and there 's all these situations where  where I  I mean , this is how I was imagining it , anyway. And then I figured , that out of that group , there would be a subset who would go " hmm you know I 'm really not sure about this section here , " and then that group would need it  S It seems like i if I 'm right in that , it seems like you 're setting it up for the most infrequent case , rather than for the most frequent case. So that uh , now we have to worry about privacy ,


but see then we 're getting more elaborate with this thing. Um if  if uh you don't have search mechanisms you just sort of have this really , really long document , I mean whenever I 've had a really , really long document that it was sitting on the web , I 've always ended up printing it out. I mean , so it 's  it 's  I mean , you  you 're  you 're not necessarily gonna be sitting at the desk all the time , you wanna figure you have a train ride , and there 's all these situations where  where I  I mean , this is how I was imagining it , anyway. And then I figured , that out of that group , there would be a subset who would go " hmm you know I 'm really not sure about this section here , " and then that group would need it  S It seems like i if I 'm right in that , it seems like you 're setting it up for the most infrequent case , rather than for the most frequent case. So that uh , now we have to worry about privacy ,

we have to worry about all these passwords , for different people


but see then we 're getting more elaborate with this thing. Um if  if uh you don't have search mechanisms you just sort of have this really , really long document , I mean whenever I 've had a really , really long document that it was sitting on the web , I 've always ended up printing it out. I mean , so it 's  it 's  I mean , you  you 're  you 're not necessarily gonna be sitting at the desk all the time , you wanna figure you have a train ride , and there 's all these situations where  where I  I mean , this is how I was imagining it , anyway. And then I figured , that out of that group , there would be a subset who would go " hmm you know I 'm really not sure about this section here , " and then that group would need it  S It seems like i if I 'm right in that , it seems like you 're setting it up for the most infrequent case , rather than for the most frequent case. So that uh , now we have to worry about privacy ,

we have to worry about all these passwords , for different people

For the most frequent case they just say  " it 's OK " and then they 're done. And I think  almost everyone would rather do that by email than any other method.


we have to worry about all these passwords , for different people

For the most frequent case they just say  " it 's OK " and then they 're done. And I think  almost everyone would rather do that by email than any other method.


For the most frequent case they just say  " it 's OK " and then they 're done. And I think  almost everyone would rather do that by email than any other method.


I mean , cuz you don't have to visit the web page if you don't want to.


I mean , cuz you don't have to visit the web page if you don't want to.

I guess  Yeah , I guess we don't need their signature. I guess an email OK is alright.


I mean , cuz you don't have to visit the web page if you don't want to.

I guess  Yeah , I guess we don't need their signature. I guess an email OK is alright.

Oh that was another thing I  I had assumed that we didn't need their signature , that it  that an email approval was sufficient. But  I don't actually know.


I guess  Yeah , I guess we don't need their signature. I guess an email OK is alright.

Oh that was another thing I  I had assumed that we didn't need their signature , that it  that an email approval was sufficient. But  I don't actually know.

Are  are people going to be allowed to bleep out sections of a meeting where they weren't speaking ?


I guess  Yeah , I guess we don't need their signature. I guess an email OK is alright.

Oh that was another thing I  I had assumed that we didn't need their signature , that it  that an email approval was sufficient. But  I don't actually know.

Are  are people going to be allowed to bleep out sections of a meeting where they weren't speaking ?

Yes. If someone feels strongly enough about it , then I  I  I think they should be allowed to do that.


Oh that was another thing I  I had assumed that we didn't need their signature , that it  that an email approval was sufficient. But  I don't actually know.

Are  are people going to be allowed to bleep out sections of a meeting where they weren't speaking ?

Yes. If someone feels strongly enough about it , then I  I  I think they should be allowed to do that.


Are  are people going to be allowed to bleep out sections of a meeting where they weren't speaking ?

Yes. If someone feels strongly enough about it , then I  I  I think they should be allowed to do that.

So that means other people are editing what you say ?


Yes. If someone feels strongly enough about it , then I  I  I think they should be allowed to do that.

So that means other people are editing what you say ?


So that means other people are editing what you say ?


Well , the only other choice is that the person would say " no , don't distribute this meeting at all " , and I would rather they were able to edit out other people then just say " don't distribute it at all ".


Well , the only other choice is that the person would say " no , don't distribute this meeting at all " , and I would rather they were able to edit out other people then just say " don't distribute it at all ".

But th what they signed in the consent form , was something that said you can use my voice.


Well , the only other choice is that the person would say " no , don't distribute this meeting at all " , and I would rather they were able to edit out other people then just say " don't distribute it at all ".

But th what they signed in the consent form , was something that said you can use my voice.

Well , but if  if someone is having a conversation , and you only bleep out one side of it , that 's not sufficient.


Well , the only other choice is that the person would say " no , don't distribute this meeting at all " , and I would rather they were able to edit out other people then just say " don't distribute it at all ".

But th what they signed in the consent form , was something that said you can use my voice.

Well , but if  if someone is having a conversation , and you only bleep out one side of it , that 's not sufficient.

Right ? Yeah. Yeah , but that 's our decision then. Right ?


But th what they signed in the consent form , was something that said you can use my voice.

Well , but if  if someone is having a conversation , and you only bleep out one side of it , that 's not sufficient.

Right ? Yeah. Yeah , but that 's our decision then. Right ?

Um , I don't think so. I mean , because if I object to the conversation.


Well , but if  if someone is having a conversation , and you only bleep out one side of it , that 's not sufficient.

Right ? Yeah. Yeah , but that 's our decision then. Right ?

Um , I don't think so. I mean , because if I object to the conversation.


Right ? Yeah. Yeah , but that 's our decision then. Right ?

Um , I don't think so. I mean , because if I object to the conversation.

If I say " we were having a conversation , and I consider that conversation private , " and I consider that your side of it is enough for other people to infer , I wanna be able to bleep out your side.


Um , I don't think so. I mean , because if I object to the conversation.

If I say " we were having a conversation , and I consider that conversation private , " and I consider that your side of it is enough for other people to infer , I wanna be able to bleep out your side.

The  I agree that the consent forms were  uh , I cons agree with what Adam 's saying , that  um , the consent form did leave open this possibility that they could edit things which they found offensive whe whether they said them or didn't say them.


If I say " we were having a conversation , and I consider that conversation private , " and I consider that your side of it is enough for other people to infer , I wanna be able to bleep out your side.

The  I agree that the consent forms were  uh , I cons agree with what Adam 's saying , that  um , the consent form did leave open this possibility that they could edit things which they found offensive whe whether they said them or didn't say them.

I see. OK , well , if that 's what it said.


If I say " we were having a conversation , and I consider that conversation private , " and I consider that your side of it is enough for other people to infer , I wanna be able to bleep out your side.

The  I agree that the consent forms were  uh , I cons agree with what Adam 's saying , that  um , the consent form did leave open this possibility that they could edit things which they found offensive whe whether they said them or didn't say them.

I see. OK , well , if that 's what it said.

And the other thing is from the standpoint of the l of the l I 'm not a law lawyer , but it strikes me that  uh , we wouldn't want someone to say " oh yes , I was a little concerned about it but  it was too hard to access ". So I think it 's kind of nice to have this facility to listen to it. Now  in terms of like editing it by hand , I mean I think it 's  i some people would find that easier to specify the bleep part by having a document they edited. But  but it seems to me that sometimes um , you know i if a person had a bad day , and they had a tone in their voice that they didn't really like , you know it 's nice  it 's nice to be able to listen to it and be sure that that was OK.


The  I agree that the consent forms were  uh , I cons agree with what Adam 's saying , that  um , the consent form did leave open this possibility that they could edit things which they found offensive whe whether they said them or didn't say them.

I see. OK , well , if that 's what it said.

And the other thing is from the standpoint of the l of the l I 'm not a law lawyer , but it strikes me that  uh , we wouldn't want someone to say " oh yes , I was a little concerned about it but  it was too hard to access ". So I think it 's kind of nice to have this facility to listen to it. Now  in terms of like editing it by hand , I mean I think it 's  i some people would find that easier to specify the bleep part by having a document they edited. But  but it seems to me that sometimes um , you know i if a person had a bad day , and they had a tone in their voice that they didn't really like , you know it 's nice  it 's nice to be able to listen to it and be sure that that was OK.

I mean I can certainly provide a printable version if people want it. Um.


I see. OK , well , if that 's what it said.

And the other thing is from the standpoint of the l of the l I 'm not a law lawyer , but it strikes me that  uh , we wouldn't want someone to say " oh yes , I was a little concerned about it but  it was too hard to access ". So I think it 's kind of nice to have this facility to listen to it. Now  in terms of like editing it by hand , I mean I think it 's  i some people would find that easier to specify the bleep part by having a document they edited. But  but it seems to me that sometimes um , you know i if a person had a bad day , and they had a tone in their voice that they didn't really like , you know it 's nice  it 's nice to be able to listen to it and be sure that that was OK.

I mean I can certainly provide a printable version if people want it. Um.

Um  I mean it 's also a mixture of people , I mean some people are r do their work primarily by sitting at the computer , flipping around the web , and others do not.


And the other thing is from the standpoint of the l of the l I 'm not a law lawyer , but it strikes me that  uh , we wouldn't want someone to say " oh yes , I was a little concerned about it but  it was too hard to access ". So I think it 's kind of nice to have this facility to listen to it. Now  in terms of like editing it by hand , I mean I think it 's  i some people would find that easier to specify the bleep part by having a document they edited. But  but it seems to me that sometimes um , you know i if a person had a bad day , and they had a tone in their voice that they didn't really like , you know it 's nice  it 's nice to be able to listen to it and be sure that that was OK.

I mean I can certainly provide a printable version if people want it. Um.

Um  I mean it 's also a mixture of people , I mean some people are r do their work primarily by sitting at the computer , flipping around the web , and others do not.


I mean I can certainly provide a printable version if people want it. Um.

Um  I mean it 's also a mixture of people , I mean some people are r do their work primarily by sitting at the computer , flipping around the web , and others do not.

Others would consider it  this uh  a  a set of skills that they would have to gain. You know ?


Um  I mean it 's also a mixture of people , I mean some people are r do their work primarily by sitting at the computer , flipping around the web , and others do not.

Others would consider it  this uh  a  a set of skills that they would have to gain. You know ?

Well I think most of the people in the meetings are the former.


Others would consider it  this uh  a  a set of skills that they would have to gain. You know ?

Well I think most of the people in the meetings are the former.


Well I think most of the people in the meetings are the former.


But we 're trying to expand this , right ?


But we 're trying to expand this , right ?

So I  I  I actually think that paper is the more universal thing.


But we 're trying to expand this , right ?

So I  I  I actually think that paper is the more universal thing.

And that  Well , but if they want to print it out that 's alright.


So I  I  I actually think that paper is the more universal thing.

And that  Well , but if they want to print it out that 's alright.


So I  I  I actually think that paper is the more universal thing.

And that  Well , but if they want to print it out that 's alright.

I think everyone in the meeting can access the web.


And that  Well , but if they want to print it out that 's alright.

I think everyone in the meeting can access the web.

No , I think we have to be able to print it out. It 's not just if they want to print it out. I  I think


I think everyone in the meeting can access the web.

No , I think we have to be able to print it out. It 's not just if they want to print it out. I  I think

OK , so does that mean that I can't use email ? Or what ?


I think everyone in the meeting can access the web.

No , I think we have to be able to print it out. It 's not just if they want to print it out. I  I think

OK , so does that mean that I can't use email ? Or what ?

Cuz you could send it through email you 're thinking.


No , I think we have to be able to print it out. It 's not just if they want to print it out. I  I think

OK , so does that mean that I can't use email ? Or what ?

Cuz you could send it through email you 're thinking.


OK , so does that mean that I can't use email ? Or what ?

Cuz you could send it through email you 're thinking.


Cuz you could send it through email you 're thinking.


well I don't think we can send the text through email because of the privacy issues.


Um. So giving them , you think a web site to say , " if you wanna print it out here it is " , is not sufficient ?


Um. So giving them , you think a web site to say , " if you wanna print it out here it is " , is not sufficient ?

Certainly for everybody who 's been in the meetings so far it would be sufficient.


Certainly for everybody who 's been in the meetings so far it would be sufficient.

Yeah , I 'm just thinking for people that that 's not sufficient for , what  the only sufficient thing would be for me to walk up to them and hand it to them.


Yeah , I 'm just thinking for people that that 's not sufficient for , what  the only sufficient thing would be for me to walk up to them and hand it to them.


But I think it 's easier to drop in the box.


But I think it 's easier to drop in the box.

Just put the button on  on the web page which say " please send me the  the scripts ".


Just put the button on  on the web page which say " please send me the  the scripts ".


What um  When you display it on the web page , what are  what are you showing them ? Utterances , or  ?


What um  When you display it on the web page , what are  what are you showing them ? Utterances , or  ?

And so can they bleep within an utterance ?


And so can they bleep within an utterance ?


And so can they bleep within an utterance ?

And that was just convenience for my sake , that it 's uh , uh it would end up being fairly difficult to edit the transcripts if we would do it at the sub - utterance level. Because this way I can just delete an entire line out of a transcript file rather than have to do it by hand.


And that was just convenience for my sake , that it 's uh , uh it would end up being fairly difficult to edit the transcripts if we would do it at the sub - utterance level. Because this way I can just delete an entire line out of a transcript file rather than have to do it by hand.

There 's another aspect to this which maybe  is part of why this is bothering me. Um , I think you 're really trying very hard to make this as convenient as possible for people to do this.


And that was just convenience for my sake , that it 's uh , uh it would end up being fairly difficult to edit the transcripts if we would do it at the sub - utterance level. Because this way I can just delete an entire line out of a transcript file rather than have to do it by hand.

There 's another aspect to this which maybe  is part of why this is bothering me. Um , I think you 're really trying very hard to make this as convenient as possible for people to do this.

I mean that 's why I did the web form , because for me that would be my most convenient.


There 's another aspect to this which maybe  is part of why this is bothering me. Um , I think you 're really trying very hard to make this as convenient as possible for people to do this.

I mean that 's why I did the web form , because for me that would be my most convenient.


I mean that 's why I did the web form , because for me that would be my most convenient.


See because you 're gon you 're  uh  Really. You 're gonna end up with all these little patchy things , whereas really what we want to do is have the  the  the bias towards letting it go. Because nob you know it  There was a  one or twi once or twice , in the re in the meetings we 've heard , where somebody said something that they might be embarrassed by , but overall people are talking about technical topics. Nobody 's gonna get hurt. Nobody 's being l libeled. You know , this is  this  we 're  we 're covering  We 're playing the lawyer 's game , and we 're playing we 're  we 're  we 're looking for the extreme case. If we really orient it towards that extreme case , make it really easy , we 're gonna end up encouraging a headache. That  I think that 's  I 'm sort of psyching myself out here , I  I 'm trying to  uh


See because you 're gon you 're  uh  Really. You 're gonna end up with all these little patchy things , whereas really what we want to do is have the  the  the bias towards letting it go. Because nob you know it  There was a  one or twi once or twice , in the re in the meetings we 've heard , where somebody said something that they might be embarrassed by , but overall people are talking about technical topics. Nobody 's gonna get hurt. Nobody 's being l libeled. You know , this is  this  we 're  we 're covering  We 're playing the lawyer 's game , and we 're playing we 're  we 're  we 're looking for the extreme case. If we really orient it towards that extreme case , make it really easy , we 're gonna end up encouraging a headache. That  I think that 's  I 'm sort of psyching myself out here , I  I 'm trying to  uh

I guess I don't see having a few phrases here and there in a meeting being that mu much of a headache , bleeped out.


I guess I don't see having a few phrases here and there in a meeting being that mu much of a headache , bleeped out.

I think what Morgan 's saying is the easier it is , the more is gonna be bleeped.


I think what Morgan 's saying is the easier it is , the more is gonna be bleeped.

but i And  and it really depends on what kind of research you 're doing. I think some researchers who are gonna be working with this corpus years from now are really gonna be cursing the fact that there 's a bunch of stuff in there  that 's missing from the dialogue.


I think what Morgan 's saying is the easier it is , the more is gonna be bleeped.

but i And  and it really depends on what kind of research you 're doing. I think some researchers who are gonna be working with this corpus years from now are really gonna be cursing the fact that there 's a bunch of stuff in there  that 's missing from the dialogue.

You know , it depends on the kind of research they 're doing ,


but i And  and it really depends on what kind of research you 're doing. I think some researchers who are gonna be working with this corpus years from now are really gonna be cursing the fact that there 's a bunch of stuff in there  that 's missing from the dialogue.

You know , it depends on the kind of research they 're doing ,


You know , it depends on the kind of research they 're doing ,

but it might be , uh  it might be really a  a pain. And , you know where it 's really gonna hurt somebody , in some way  the one who said it or someone who is being spoken about ,  we definitely want to allow the option of it being bleeped out. But I really think we wanna make it the rare incidence. And  and uh , I am just a little worried about making it so easy for people to do , and so much fun !  that they 're gonna go through and bleep out stuff.


but it might be , uh  it might be really a  a pain. And , you know where it 's really gonna hurt somebody , in some way  the one who said it or someone who is being spoken about ,  we definitely want to allow the option of it being bleeped out. But I really think we wanna make it the rare incidence. And  and uh , I am just a little worried about making it so easy for people to do , and so much fun !  that they 're gonna go through and bleep out stuff.

and they can bleep out stuff they don't like too , right from somebody else , as you say , you know , so " well I didn't like what he said. "


but it might be , uh  it might be really a  a pain. And , you know where it 's really gonna hurt somebody , in some way  the one who said it or someone who is being spoken about ,  we definitely want to allow the option of it being bleeped out. But I really think we wanna make it the rare incidence. And  and uh , I am just a little worried about making it so easy for people to do , and so much fun !  that they 're gonna go through and bleep out stuff.

and they can bleep out stuff they don't like too , right from somebody else , as you say , you know , so " well I didn't like what he said. "

Well I don't see any way of avoiding that. I mean , we have to provi we have promised that we would provide them the transcript and that they can remove parts that they don't like. So that the


and they can bleep out stuff they don't like too , right from somebody else , as you say , you know , so " well I didn't like what he said. "

Well I don't see any way of avoiding that. I mean , we have to provi we have promised that we would provide them the transcript and that they can remove parts that they don't like. So that the


Well I don't see any way of avoiding that. I mean , we have to provi we have promised that we would provide them the transcript and that they can remove parts that they don't like. So that the

You - you 've talked me into that , but I  I just think that we should make it harder to do.


You - you 've talked me into that , but I  I just think that we should make it harder to do.

The problem is if it 's harder for them it 's also harder for me. Whereas this web interface , I just get email , it 's all formatted , it 's all ready to go and I can just insert it.


You - you 've talked me into that , but I  I just think that we should make it harder to do.

The problem is if it 's harder for them it 's also harder for me. Whereas this web interface , I just get email , it 's all formatted , it 's all ready to go and I can just insert it.

So maybe you don't give them access to the web interface unless they really need it. So  so  so


The problem is if it 's harder for them it 's also harder for me. Whereas this web interface , I just get email , it 's all formatted , it 's all ready to go and I can just insert it.

So maybe you don't give them access to the web interface unless they really need it. So  so  so

I 'm sorry  so  so  So maybe this is a s a way out of it.


So maybe you don't give them access to the web interface unless they really need it. So  so  so

I 'm sorry  so  so  So maybe this is a s a way out of it.


I 'm sorry  so  so  So maybe this is a s a way out of it.

You 've provided something that 's useful for you to do  handle , and useful for someone else if they need it. But I think the issue of privacy and ease and so forth should be that uh , they get access to this if they really need it.


You 've provided something that 's useful for you to do  handle , and useful for someone else if they need it. But I think the issue of privacy and ease and so forth should be that uh , they get access to this if they really need it.

So you 're saying the  the sequence would be more like first Adam goes to the contact lists , contacts them via whatever their preferred method is , to see if they want to review the meeting.


So you 're saying the  the sequence would be more like first Adam goes to the contact lists , contacts them via whatever their preferred method is , to see if they want to review the meeting.

And then if they don't , you 're done. If they do , then he provides them access to the  the web site.


So you 're saying the  the sequence would be more like first Adam goes to the contact lists , contacts them via whatever their preferred method is , to see if they want to review the meeting.

And then if they don't , you 're done. If they do , then he provides them access to the  the web site.

Well , to some extent I have to do that anyway because as I said we have to distribute passwords.


And then if they don't , you 're done. If they do , then he provides them access to the  the web site.

Well , to some extent I have to do that anyway because as I said we have to distribute passwords.


Well , to some extent I have to do that anyway because as I said we have to distribute passwords.


y but you don't necessarily have to distribute passwords is what I 'm saying.


what I 'm saying is that I can't just email them the password because that 's not secure. So they have to call me and ask.


what I 'm saying is that I can't just email them the password because that 's not secure. So they have to call me and ask.

No , no , no. But you aren't necessarily giving them  Right. But  we don't even necessarily need to end up distributing passwords at all.


what I 'm saying is that I can't just email them the password because that 's not secure. So they have to call me and ask.

No , no , no. But you aren't necessarily giving them  Right. But  we don't even necessarily need to end up distributing passwords at all.

Well , we do because of privacy. We can't just make it openly available on the web.


No , no , no. But you aren't necessarily giving them  Right. But  we don't even necessarily need to end up distributing passwords at all.

Well , we do because of privacy. We can't just make it openly available on the web.


Well , we do because of privacy. We can't just make it openly available on the web.

We 're  We 're trying i We 're trying to make it less of an obvious just l l l l uh fall off a log , to do this.


We 're  We 're trying i We 're trying to make it less of an obvious just l l l l uh fall off a log , to do this.

Not everyone gets a password , unless they ask for it.


We 're  We 're trying i We 're trying to make it less of an obvious just l l l l uh fall off a log , to do this.

Not everyone gets a password , unless they ask for it.

Right ? So th so what I would see , is that first you contact them and ask them if they would like to review it for to check for the


Not everyone gets a password , unless they ask for it.

Right ? So th so what I would see , is that first you contact them and ask them if they would like to review it for to check for the

not just for fun , OK ? but to  to check this for uh things that they 're worried about having said or if they 're willing to just send an approval of it , at  from their memory. Um  and , uh , and we should think carefully actually we should review  go through how that 's worded , OK ? Then , if someone uh  wants to review it , uh , and I know you don't like this , but I 'm offering this as a suggestion , is that  is that we then give them a print out. And then if they say that " I have a potential problem with these things , " then , you  you say " OK well you might wanna hear this in context to s think if you need that , " you issue them a password , i in the


Right ? So th so what I would see , is that first you contact them and ask them if they would like to review it for to check for the

not just for fun , OK ? but to  to check this for uh things that they 're worried about having said or if they 're willing to just send an approval of it , at  from their memory. Um  and , uh , and we should think carefully actually we should review  go through how that 's worded , OK ? Then , if someone uh  wants to review it , uh , and I know you don't like this , but I 'm offering this as a suggestion , is that  is that we then give them a print out. And then if they say that " I have a potential problem with these things , " then , you  you say " OK well you might wanna hear this in context to s think if you need that , " you issue them a password , i in the

But the  the problem with what you 're suggesting is it 's not just inconvenient for them , it 's inconvenient for me. Because that means multiple contacts every time  for every single meeting every time anyone wants anything. I would much prefer to have all be automatic , they visit the web site if they want to. Obviously they don't have to.


not just for fun , OK ? but to  to check this for uh things that they 're worried about having said or if they 're willing to just send an approval of it , at  from their memory. Um  and , uh , and we should think carefully actually we should review  go through how that 's worded , OK ? Then , if someone uh  wants to review it , uh , and I know you don't like this , but I 'm offering this as a suggestion , is that  is that we then give them a print out. And then if they say that " I have a potential problem with these things , " then , you  you say " OK well you might wanna hear this in context to s think if you need that , " you issue them a password , i in the

But the  the problem with what you 're suggesting is it 's not just inconvenient for them , it 's inconvenient for me. Because that means multiple contacts every time  for every single meeting every time anyone wants anything. I would much prefer to have all be automatic , they visit the web site if they want to. Obviously they don't have to.

I know you 'd prefer it , but the proble


But the  the problem with what you 're suggesting is it 's not just inconvenient for them , it 's inconvenient for me. Because that means multiple contacts every time  for every single meeting every time anyone wants anything. I would much prefer to have all be automatic , they visit the web site if they want to. Obviously they don't have to.

I know you 'd prefer it , but the proble


I know you 'd prefer it , but the proble

So I think you 're thinking people are going to arbitrarily start bleeping and I just don't think that 's gonna happen.


So I think you 're thinking people are going to arbitrarily start bleeping and I just don't think that 's gonna happen.


So I think you 're thinking people are going to arbitrarily start bleeping and I just don't think that 's gonna happen.

I 'm also concerned about the spirit of the  of the informed consent thing. Cuz I think if they feel that uh , it 's  I th I th You know , if it turns out that something gets published in this corpus that someone really should have eliminated and didn't detect , then it could have been because of their own negligence that they didn't pursue that next level and get the password and do that , um , but  but they might be able to argue " oh well it was cumbersome , and I was busy and it was gonna take me too much time to trace it down ". So it could that the burden would come back onto us. So I 'm a little bit worried about uh , making it harder for them , from the legal standpoint.


So I think you 're thinking people are going to arbitrarily start bleeping and I just don't think that 's gonna happen.

I 'm also concerned about the spirit of the  of the informed consent thing. Cuz I think if they feel that uh , it 's  I th I th You know , if it turns out that something gets published in this corpus that someone really should have eliminated and didn't detect , then it could have been because of their own negligence that they didn't pursue that next level and get the password and do that , um , but  but they might be able to argue " oh well it was cumbersome , and I was busy and it was gonna take me too much time to trace it down ". So it could that the burden would come back onto us. So I 'm a little bit worried about uh , making it harder for them , from the legal standpoint.

Well you can go too far in that direction , and you need to find somewhere between I think ,


I 'm also concerned about the spirit of the  of the informed consent thing. Cuz I think if they feel that uh , it 's  I th I th You know , if it turns out that something gets published in this corpus that someone really should have eliminated and didn't detect , then it could have been because of their own negligence that they didn't pursue that next level and get the password and do that , um , but  but they might be able to argue " oh well it was cumbersome , and I was busy and it was gonna take me too much time to trace it down ". So it could that the burden would come back onto us. So I 'm a little bit worried about uh , making it harder for them , from the legal standpoint.

Well you can go too far in that direction , and you need to find somewhere between I think ,


I 'm also concerned about the spirit of the  of the informed consent thing. Cuz I think if they feel that uh , it 's  I th I th You know , if it turns out that something gets published in this corpus that someone really should have eliminated and didn't detect , then it could have been because of their own negligence that they didn't pursue that next level and get the password and do that , um , but  but they might be able to argue " oh well it was cumbersome , and I was busy and it was gonna take me too much time to trace it down ". So it could that the burden would come back onto us. So I 'm a little bit worried about uh , making it harder for them , from the legal standpoint.

Well you can go too far in that direction , and you need to find somewhere between I think ,

It seems to me that sending them email , saying " if you have an O - OK reply to this email and say OK ,


Well you can go too far in that direction , and you need to find somewhere between I think ,

It seems to me that sending them email , saying " if you have an O - OK reply to this email and say OK ,


It seems to me that sending them email , saying " if you have an O - OK reply to this email and say OK ,

If you have a problem with it contact me and I 'll give you a password " , seems like is a perfectly , reasonable compromise. And if they want a printout they can print it out themselves.


If you have a problem with it contact me and I 'll give you a password " , seems like is a perfectly , reasonable compromise. And if they want a printout they can print it out themselves.


If you have a problem with it contact me and I 'll give you a password " , seems like is a perfectly , reasonable compromise. And if they want a printout they can print it out themselves.

I mean we could offer that  but  but there 's uh , another aspect to that and that is that in the informed consent form , um , my impression is that they  that we offered them at the very least that they definitely would have access to the transcript. And  and I ha


I mean we could offer that  but  but there 's uh , another aspect to that and that is that in the informed consent form , um , my impression is that they  that we offered them at the very least that they definitely would have access to the transcript. And  and I ha


I mean we could offer that  but  but there 's uh , another aspect to that and that is that in the informed consent form , um , my impression is that they  that we offered them at the very least that they definitely would have access to the transcript. And  and I ha

I don't know that there 's a chance of really skipping that stage. I mean I  I thought that you were  Maybe I misinterpreted what you said but it 's


I mean we could offer that  but  but there 's uh , another aspect to that and that is that in the informed consent form , um , my impression is that they  that we offered them at the very least that they definitely would have access to the transcript. And  and I ha

I don't know that there 's a chance of really skipping that stage. I mean I  I thought that you were  Maybe I misinterpreted what you said but it 's

Having access to it doesn't necessarily mean , that  having it


I don't know that there 's a chance of really skipping that stage. I mean I  I thought that you were  Maybe I misinterpreted what you said but it 's

Having access to it doesn't necessarily mean , that  having it


Having access to it doesn't necessarily mean , that  having it


right ? It just means they have the right to have it.


right ? It just means they have the right to have it.

the consent form is right in there if anyone wants to look at it ,


the consent form is right in there if anyone wants to look at it ,


Um.  Yeah , I mean I don't wanna fool them ,


Um.  Yeah , I mean I don't wanna fool them ,

I just meant that e every  ev any time you say anything to anyone there is in fact a  a bias that is presented ,


I just meant that e every  ev any time you say anything to anyone there is in fact a  a bias that is presented ,


I just meant that e every  ev any time you say anything to anyone there is in fact a  a bias that is presented ,

" If you agree to participate you 'll have the opportunity to have anything ex anything excised , which you would prefer not to have included in the data set. "


" If you agree to participate you 'll have the opportunity to have anything ex anything excised , which you would prefer not to have included in the data set. "


" If you agree to participate you 'll have the opportunity to have anything ex anything excised , which you would prefer not to have included in the data set. "

" Once a transcript is available we will ask your permission to include the data in the corpus for the r larger research community.


" Once a transcript is available we will ask your permission to include the data in the corpus for the r larger research community.


" Once a transcript is available we will ask your permission to include the data in the corpus for the r larger research community.

There again you will be allowed to indicate any sections that you 'd prefer to have excised from the database , and they will m be removed both from the transcript and the recording. "


" Once a transcript is available we will ask your permission to include the data in the corpus for the r larger research community.

There again you will be allowed to indicate any sections that you 'd prefer to have excised from the database , and they will m be removed both from the transcript and the recording. "

Hmm. Well that 's more open than I realized.


There again you will be allowed to indicate any sections that you 'd prefer to have excised from the database , and they will m be removed both from the transcript and the recording. "

Hmm. Well that 's more open than I realized.

Well , I mean it  The one question is definitely clear with anything as opposed to just what you said.


Hmm. Well that 's more open than I realized.

Well , I mean it  The one question is definitely clear with anything as opposed to just what you said.


Well , I mean it  The one question is definitely clear with anything as opposed to just what you said.

Tha - that 's true. That 's more severe , but the next one says the transcript will be around.


Tha - that 's true. That 's more severe , but the next one says the transcript will be around.


Tha - that 's true. That 's more severe , but the next one says the transcript will be around.

And it doesn't  really say we 'll send it to you , or wi it 'll be available for you on the web , or anything.


Tha - that 's true. That 's more severe , but the next one says the transcript will be around.

And it doesn't  really say we 'll send it to you , or wi it 'll be available for you on the web , or anything.

I think it probably leaves it open how we get it to them.


And it doesn't  really say we 'll send it to you , or wi it 'll be available for you on the web , or anything.

I think it probably leaves it open how we get it to them.


And it doesn't  really say we 'll send it to you , or wi it 'll be available for you on the web , or anything.

I think it probably leaves it open how we get it to them.

At least it more often. Yeah. It means also we don't have to g To give it to them. I mean like  like Morgan was saying they  they


I think it probably leaves it open how we get it to them.

At least it more often. Yeah. It means also we don't have to g To give it to them. I mean like  like Morgan was saying they  they

They just have to make sure that it is available to them.


At least it more often. Yeah. It means also we don't have to g To give it to them. I mean like  like Morgan was saying they  they

They just have to make sure that it is available to them.

It 's available to them if they ask for it.


At least it more often. Yeah. It means also we don't have to g To give it to them. I mean like  like Morgan was saying they  they

They just have to make sure that it is available to them.

It 's available to them if they ask for it.

Yeah , OK , so. wh um  I think I have an idea that may be sat may satisfy both you and me in this which is , um , it 's a  it  we just go over carefully how these notes to people are worded. So I  I just want it to be worded in such a way where it gives the strong impre it gives very , I mean nothing hidden , v very strongly the bias that we would really like to use all of these data.


They just have to make sure that it is available to them.

It 's available to them if they ask for it.

Yeah , OK , so. wh um  I think I have an idea that may be sat may satisfy both you and me in this which is , um , it 's a  it  we just go over carefully how these notes to people are worded. So I  I just want it to be worded in such a way where it gives the strong impre it gives very , I mean nothing hidden , v very strongly the bias that we would really like to use all of these data.


It 's available to them if they ask for it.

Yeah , OK , so. wh um  I think I have an idea that may be sat may satisfy both you and me in this which is , um , it 's a  it  we just go over carefully how these notes to people are worded. So I  I just want it to be worded in such a way where it gives the strong impre it gives very , I mean nothing hidden , v very strongly the bias that we would really like to use all of these data.

That  that we really would rather it wasn't a patchwork of things tossed out ,


Yeah , OK , so. wh um  I think I have an idea that may be sat may satisfy both you and me in this which is , um , it 's a  it  we just go over carefully how these notes to people are worded. So I  I just want it to be worded in such a way where it gives the strong impre it gives very , I mean nothing hidden , v very strongly the bias that we would really like to use all of these data.

That  that we really would rather it wasn't a patchwork of things tossed out ,


That  that we really would rather it wasn't a patchwork of things tossed out ,

that it would be better for , um , our , uh , field if that is the case. But if you really think something is gonna  And I don't think there 's anything in the legal aspects that  that is hurt by our expressing that bias.


that it would be better for , um , our , uh , field if that is the case. But if you really think something is gonna  And I don't think there 's anything in the legal aspects that  that is hurt by our expressing that bias.


you know you might be right , it may be it was just paranoia on my part , uh but people just  See I 'm @ @ worried about this interface so much fun  that people start bleeping stuff out   just as  just because they can.


you know you might be right , it may be it was just paranoia on my part , uh but people just  See I 'm @ @ worried about this interface so much fun  that people start bleeping stuff out   just as  just because they can.

It 's just a check box next to the text , it 's not any fun at all.


you know you might be right , it may be it was just paranoia on my part , uh but people just  See I 'm @ @ worried about this interface so much fun  that people start bleeping stuff out   just as  just because they can.

It 's just a check box next to the text , it 's not any fun at all.

Yeah. Well I don't know. I kind of had fun when you played me something that was bleeped out. You know.


you know you might be right , it may be it was just paranoia on my part , uh but people just  See I 'm @ @ worried about this interface so much fun  that people start bleeping stuff out   just as  just because they can.

It 's just a check box next to the text , it 's not any fun at all.

Yeah. Well I don't know. I kind of had fun when you played me something that was bleeped out. You know.

Well , but they won't get that feedback.


It 's just a check box next to the text , it 's not any fun at all.

Yeah. Well I don't know. I kind of had fun when you played me something that was bleeped out. You know.

Well , but they won't get that feedback.

All  no because it doesn't automatically bleep it at the time.


Yeah. Well I don't know. I kind of had fun when you played me something that was bleeped out. You know.

Well , but they won't get that feedback.

All  no because it doesn't automatically bleep it at the time.


Well , but they won't get that feedback.

All  no because it doesn't automatically bleep it at the time.


All  no because it doesn't automatically bleep it at the time.

Oh good. So you haven't made it so much fun.


Oh good. So you haven't made it so much fun.


And then at some point I 'll incorporate them all and put bleeps. I mean I don't wanna have t ha do that yet until we actually release the data


And then at some point I 'll incorporate them all and put bleeps. I mean I don't wanna have t ha do that yet until we actually release the data

because um , then we have to have two copies of every meeting and we 're already short on disk space.


because um , then we have to have two copies of every meeting and we 're already short on disk space.

So I  I wanna  I  just keep the times until we actually wanna release the data and then we bleep it.


because um , then we have to have two copies of every meeting and we 're already short on disk space.

So I  I wanna  I  just keep the times until we actually wanna release the data and then we bleep it.

OK. Alright , so I think  Yeah so if we have if  i Again let 's you know , sort of circulate the  the wording on each of these things and get it right ,


So I  I wanna  I  just keep the times until we actually wanna release the data and then we bleep it.

OK. Alright , so I think  Yeah so if we have if  i Again let 's you know , sort of circulate the  the wording on each of these things and get it right ,

Well since you seem to feel heart uh , strongest about it , would you like to do the first pass ?


So I  I wanna  I  just keep the times until we actually wanna release the data and then we bleep it.

OK. Alright , so I think  Yeah so if we have if  i Again let 's you know , sort of circulate the  the wording on each of these things and get it right ,

Well since you seem to feel heart uh , strongest about it , would you like to do the first pass ?

but  but  OK. Uh , fair enough. Turn about is fair play ,


OK. Alright , so I think  Yeah so if we have if  i Again let 's you know , sort of circulate the  the wording on each of these things and get it right ,

Well since you seem to feel heart uh , strongest about it , would you like to do the first pass ?

but  but  OK. Uh , fair enough. Turn about is fair play ,

Al - Also it ther there is this other question , the legal question that  that Adam 's raised , uh about whether we need a concrete signature , or email c i suffices or whatever


Well since you seem to feel heart uh , strongest about it , would you like to do the first pass ?

but  but  OK. Uh , fair enough. Turn about is fair play ,

Al - Also it ther there is this other question , the legal question that  that Adam 's raised , uh about whether we need a concrete signature , or email c i suffices or whatever


but  but  OK. Uh , fair enough. Turn about is fair play ,

Al - Also it ther there is this other question , the legal question that  that Adam 's raised , uh about whether we need a concrete signature , or email c i suffices or whatever


Al - Also it ther there is this other question , the legal question that  that Adam 's raised , uh about whether we need a concrete signature , or email c i suffices or whatever

and I don't know how that works. i There 's something down there about " if you agree to  "


and I don't know how that works. i There 's something down there about " if you agree to  "

I 'm  I 'm  I 'm  I thought  I  I thought about it with one of my background processes


and I don't know how that works. i There 's something down there about " if you agree to  "

I 'm  I 'm  I 'm  I thought  I  I thought about it with one of my background processes

and I  uh it 's  uh it 's uh , it 's fine to do the email.


I 'm  I 'm  I 'm  I thought  I  I thought about it with one of my background processes

and I  uh it 's  uh it 's uh , it 's fine to do the email.


and I  uh it 's  uh it 's uh , it 's fine to do the email.

Yeah because thi th they 're signing here that they 're agreeing to the paragraph which says " you 'll be given an opportunity. "


Yeah because thi th they 're signing here that they 're agreeing to the paragraph which says " you 'll be given an opportunity. "


And so I don't think they need another signature.


And so I don't think they need another signature.

And  Well and furthermore I  it 's now fairly routine in a lot of arrangements that I do with people on contracts and so forth that  that uh if it 's  if it 's that sort of thing where you 're you 're saying uh " OK I agree , we want eighty hours of this person at such - and - such amount , and I agree that 's OK , " uh if it 's a follow up to some other agreement where there was a signature it 's often done in email now


And  Well and furthermore I  it 's now fairly routine in a lot of arrangements that I do with people on contracts and so forth that  that uh if it 's  if it 's that sort of thing where you 're you 're saying uh " OK I agree , we want eighty hours of this person at such - and - such amount , and I agree that 's OK , " uh if it 's a follow up to some other agreement where there was a signature it 's often done in email now


So I guess I probably should at the minimum , think about how to present it in a printed form. I 'm not really sure what 's best with that. The problem is a lot of them are really short ,


So I guess I probably should at the minimum , think about how to present it in a printed form. I 'm not really sure what 's best with that. The problem is a lot of them are really short ,

and so I don't necessarily wanna do one per line. But I don't know how else to do it.


So I guess I probably should at the minimum , think about how to present it in a printed form. I 'm not really sure what 's best with that. The problem is a lot of them are really short ,

and so I don't necessarily wanna do one per line. But I don't know how else to do it.

Well I s I also have this  I  I think it 's nice you have it uh , viewab her  hearable on the  on the web for those who might wonder about um , the non nonverbal side , I mean I  I agree that our bias should be as  as expressed here , and  but I  I think it 's nice that a person could check. Cuz sometimes you know you  the words on a  on the page , come out soun sounding different in terms of the  social dynamics if they hear it.


and so I don't necessarily wanna do one per line. But I don't know how else to do it.

Well I s I also have this  I  I think it 's nice you have it uh , viewab her  hearable on the  on the web for those who might wonder about um , the non nonverbal side , I mean I  I agree that our bias should be as  as expressed here , and  but I  I think it 's nice that a person could check. Cuz sometimes you know you  the words on a  on the page , come out soun sounding different in terms of the  social dynamics if they hear it.


Well I s I also have this  I  I think it 's nice you have it uh , viewab her  hearable on the  on the web for those who might wonder about um , the non nonverbal side , I mean I  I agree that our bias should be as  as expressed here , and  but I  I think it 's nice that a person could check. Cuz sometimes you know you  the words on a  on the page , come out soun sounding different in terms of the  social dynamics if they hear it.

And I realize we shouldn't emphasize that people  you know , shouldn't borrow trouble. What it comes down to but


And I realize we shouldn't emphasize that people  you know , shouldn't borrow trouble. What it comes down to but

Yeah I think actually  my opinion probably is that the only time someone will need to listen to it is if the transcript is uh not good. You know , if  if there are lots of mumbles and parentheses and things like that.


And I realize we shouldn't emphasize that people  you know , shouldn't borrow trouble. What it comes down to but

Yeah I think actually  my opinion probably is that the only time someone will need to listen to it is if the transcript is uh not good. You know , if  if there are lots of mumbles and parentheses and things like that.

Oh , you know , or what if there was an error in the transcript that didn't get detected and there was a whole uh  i segment a against some   personal  i th


Yeah I think actually  my opinion probably is that the only time someone will need to listen to it is if the transcript is uh not good. You know , if  if there are lots of mumbles and parentheses and things like that.

Oh , you know , or what if there was an error in the transcript that didn't get detected and there was a whole uh  i segment a against some   personal  i th


Oh , you know , or what if there was an error in the transcript that didn't get detected and there was a whole uh  i segment a against some   personal  i th


Or  or even   or even  there was a  a line you know about how " hmm - mmm - mmm  Bill Gates duh - duh - duh - duh. "


Or  or even   or even  there was a  a line you know about how " hmm - mmm - mmm  Bill Gates duh - duh - duh - duh. "

but  but it was all  the words were all visible , but they didn't end up i some there was a slip in the transcript.


but  but it was all  the words were all visible , but they didn't end up i some there was a slip in the transcript.


Actually Liz will like it. You know , but.


Actually Liz will like it. You know , but.

Liz will like it. We had a pretty strong disagreement going there.


Liz will like it. We had a pretty strong disagreement going there.

Yeah. So I don't know. I mean , I  I guess we 're assuming that the transcript is a close enough approximation and that  that my double checking will be  so close to absolutely perfect that it  that nothing will slip by.


Yeah. So I don't know. I mean , I  I guess we 're assuming that the transcript is a close enough approximation and that  that my double checking will be  so close to absolutely perfect that it  that nothing will slip by.


Yeah. So I don't know. I mean , I  I guess we 're assuming that the transcript is a close enough approximation and that  that my double checking will be  so close to absolutely perfect that it  that nothing will slip by.

But it  the  some something might sometime , and they  uh  if  if it 's something that they said , they might  i i I mean , you might be very accurate in putting down what they actually said ,


But it  the  some something might sometime , and they  uh  if  if it 's something that they said , they might  i i I mean , you might be very accurate in putting down what they actually said ,

but , when they hear it , themselves , they may hear something different because they know what they meant.


but , when they hear it , themselves , they may hear something different because they know what they meant.


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