Um the bat uh the battery for a a watch wouldn't require a lot of power , would be my one query.

Is a kinetic one going to be able to supply enough power ?

There's also a watch moves around a great deal more.


Is a kinetic one going to be able to supply enough power ?

There's also a watch moves around a great deal more.


There's also a watch moves around a great deal more.


Yeah , I don't think it would. Um. And solar cells , I dunno about that.


Yeah , I don't think it would. Um. And solar cells , I dunno about that.

Uh. We should probably just use conventional batteries. Um , just like in usual remote controls.


Yeah , I don't think it would. Um. And solar cells , I dunno about that.

Uh. We should probably just use conventional batteries. Um , just like in usual remote controls.

Which I suppose as well would allow us to go off the shelf again , you'd say ?


Uh. We should probably just use conventional batteries. Um , just like in usual remote controls.

Which I suppose as well would allow us to go off the shelf again , you'd say ?

Um. Yeah. Um.  And these are three different types of  or two different types  three different types of shapes you can have. Uh one is a flat one , and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved. Um  the materials are tha there as you can see , but uh you can't have a titanium one for a double curved ,


Uh. We should probably just use conventional batteries. Um , just like in usual remote controls.

Which I suppose as well would allow us to go off the shelf again , you'd say ?

Um. Yeah. Um.  And these are three different types of  or two different types  three different types of shapes you can have. Uh one is a flat one , and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved. Um  the materials are tha there as you can see , but uh you can't have a titanium one for a double curved ,

Titanium , the really strong metal , titanium ?


Which I suppose as well would allow us to go off the shelf again , you'd say ?

Um. Yeah. Um.  And these are three different types of  or two different types  three different types of shapes you can have. Uh one is a flat one , and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved. Um  the materials are tha there as you can see , but uh you can't have a titanium one for a double curved ,

Titanium , the really strong metal , titanium ?


Um. Yeah. Um.  And these are three different types of  or two different types  three different types of shapes you can have. Uh one is a flat one , and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved. Um  the materials are tha there as you can see , but uh you can't have a titanium one for a double curved ,

Titanium , the really strong metal , titanium ?


Titanium , the really strong metal , titanium ?

and light. Uh , i think so as well , yeah.


and light. Uh , i think so as well , yeah.


and light. Uh , i think so as well , yeah.

They make mountain bikes out of that , don't they. So it's really light as well.


and light. Uh , i think so as well , yeah.

They make mountain bikes out of that , don't they. So it's really light as well.

Curious. Um , I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not , the single curved and double curved , would you be able to give an example ?


They make mountain bikes out of that , don't they. So it's really light as well.

Curious. Um , I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not , the single curved and double curved , would you be able to give an example ?


They make mountain bikes out of that , don't they. So it's really light as well.

Curious. Um , I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not , the single curved and double curved , would you be able to give an example ?

Um could you maybe draw something ? I you don't doesn't have to be perfect , it's just 'cause I'm not quite sure if I understand the difference between the two.


Curious. Um , I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not , the single curved and double curved , would you be able to give an example ?

Um could you maybe draw something ? I you don't doesn't have to be perfect , it's just 'cause I'm not quite sure if I understand the difference between the two.

Uh. Well for a curved , well I was thinking to  f for to sit in your  the palm of your hand. Uh maybe like this , with the uh joy pad here. Joystick here. And maybe um an okay button around here , so that the thumb can uh use it quite easily. Um I don't exactly   Double curved. It probably means  this is probably double curved. Uh whereas a single curved would be like that. I guess. Or not necessarily.


Um could you maybe draw something ? I you don't doesn't have to be perfect , it's just 'cause I'm not quite sure if I understand the difference between the two.

Uh. Well for a curved , well I was thinking to  f for to sit in your  the palm of your hand. Uh maybe like this , with the uh joy pad here. Joystick here. And maybe um an okay button around here , so that the thumb can uh use it quite easily. Um I don't exactly   Double curved. It probably means  this is probably double curved. Uh whereas a single curved would be like that. I guess. Or not necessarily.


Uh. Well for a curved , well I was thinking to  f for to sit in your  the palm of your hand. Uh maybe like this , with the uh joy pad here. Joystick here. And maybe um an okay button around here , so that the thumb can uh use it quite easily. Um I don't exactly   Double curved. It probably means  this is probably double curved. Uh whereas a single curved would be like that. I guess. Or not necessarily.


Yeah like that. Whereas this is two curves. Um  so I guess that's what they mean by uh double curve.


Yeah like that. Whereas this is two curves. Um  so I guess that's what they mean by uh double curve.

Um which obviously  it looks better than the single curve , but uh you can't have it in titanium , which is uh a nice material.  Uh


Um which obviously  it looks better than the single curve , but uh you can't have it in titanium , which is uh a nice material.  Uh

and for the buttons , um it can have the scroll wheel which they use in mouses for com P_C_s. Uh but um it requires a more expensive chip to use , and if you wanna use L_C_D_ it's even more expensive. So you have to decide , there's trade-offs there. Um  if you want the buttons to be  oh yeah , if you have a double curve uh control and it's rubber , then you have these rubber buttons as well. But  you're gonna ha I reckon you're gonna have to have uh key a number keypad anyway for the amount of channels these days. You wouldn't want to just have to scroll through all the channels to get to the one you want. You wanna enter just the number of it , if you know it. So um I reckon we're gonna have to have a number keypad anyway. Do you think ?


Um which obviously  it looks better than the single curve , but uh you can't have it in titanium , which is uh a nice material.  Uh

and for the buttons , um it can have the scroll wheel which they use in mouses for com P_C_s. Uh but um it requires a more expensive chip to use , and if you wanna use L_C_D_ it's even more expensive. So you have to decide , there's trade-offs there. Um  if you want the buttons to be  oh yeah , if you have a double curve uh control and it's rubber , then you have these rubber buttons as well. But  you're gonna ha I reckon you're gonna have to have uh key a number keypad anyway for the amount of channels these days. You wouldn't want to just have to scroll through all the channels to get to the one you want. You wanna enter just the number of it , if you know it. So um I reckon we're gonna have to have a number keypad anyway. Do you think ?

Okay , that was definitely something we can talk about. Um so you've got a little bit about the the chip that we might require as well ?


and for the buttons , um it can have the scroll wheel which they use in mouses for com P_C_s. Uh but um it requires a more expensive chip to use , and if you wanna use L_C_D_ it's even more expensive. So you have to decide , there's trade-offs there. Um  if you want the buttons to be  oh yeah , if you have a double curve uh control and it's rubber , then you have these rubber buttons as well. But  you're gonna ha I reckon you're gonna have to have uh key a number keypad anyway for the amount of channels these days. You wouldn't want to just have to scroll through all the channels to get to the one you want. You wanna enter just the number of it , if you know it. So um I reckon we're gonna have to have a number keypad anyway. Do you think ?

Okay , that was definitely something we can talk about. Um so you've got a little bit about the the chip that we might require as well ?

Yeah. So , depends where gonna spend the money if you want the f fancy L_C_D_ display.


and for the buttons , um it can have the scroll wheel which they use in mouses for com P_C_s. Uh but um it requires a more expensive chip to use , and if you wanna use L_C_D_ it's even more expensive. So you have to decide , there's trade-offs there. Um  if you want the buttons to be  oh yeah , if you have a double curve uh control and it's rubber , then you have these rubber buttons as well. But  you're gonna ha I reckon you're gonna have to have uh key a number keypad anyway for the amount of channels these days. You wouldn't want to just have to scroll through all the channels to get to the one you want. You wanna enter just the number of it , if you know it. So um I reckon we're gonna have to have a number keypad anyway. Do you think ?

Okay , that was definitely something we can talk about. Um so you've got a little bit about the the chip that we might require as well ?

Yeah. So , depends where gonna spend the money if you want the f fancy L_C_D_ display.

Um , do you have any idea so far , like when we're saying that we'd need an advanced chip for an L_C_D_ , does that in shoot the cost up by a drastic amount ? Or ?


Okay , that was definitely something we can talk about. Um so you've got a little bit about the the chip that we might require as well ?

Yeah. So , depends where gonna spend the money if you want the f fancy L_C_D_ display.

Um , do you have any idea so far , like when we're saying that we'd need an advanced chip for an L_C_D_ , does that in shoot the cost up by a drastic amount ? Or ?

Need an advanced chip for the L_C_D_. Is that  did I


Yeah. So , depends where gonna spend the money if you want the f fancy L_C_D_ display.

Um , do you have any idea so far , like when we're saying that we'd need an advanced chip for an L_C_D_ , does that in shoot the cost up by a drastic amount ? Or ?

Need an advanced chip for the L_C_D_. Is that  did I

Well I think compared to say just pressing  buttons.


Um , do you have any idea so far , like when we're saying that we'd need an advanced chip for an L_C_D_ , does that in shoot the cost up by a drastic amount ? Or ?

Need an advanced chip for the L_C_D_. Is that  did I

Well I think compared to say just pressing  buttons.


Need an advanced chip for the L_C_D_. Is that  did I

Well I think compared to say just pressing  buttons.

Advanced , like three eight six advance.


Well I think compared to say just pressing  buttons.

Advanced , like three eight six advance.

if you press a button that sends a certain transmission through the infra-red , whereas I think if we're controlling the L_C_D_ we definitely require a much more powerful chip. Just compared to the chip you would use for pushing buttons I think is the the point being made.


Advanced , like three eight six advance.

if you press a button that sends a certain transmission through the infra-red , whereas I think if we're controlling the L_C_D_ we definitely require a much more powerful chip. Just compared to the chip you would use for pushing buttons I think is the the point being made.


if you press a button that sends a certain transmission through the infra-red , whereas I think if we're controlling the L_C_D_ we definitely require a much more powerful chip. Just compared to the chip you would use for pushing buttons I think is the the point being made.


Mm , if we only have twelve Pounds fifty , twelve Euros , not even twelve Pounds. Twelve Euros , what's that , like eight pounds or something like that , nine Pounds ?


Mm , if we only have twelve Pounds fifty , twelve Euros , not even twelve Pounds. Twelve Euros , what's that , like eight pounds or something like that , nine Pounds ?

Well we'd also be relying on the um the bulk buying in producement and such. I assume.


Mm , if we only have twelve Pounds fifty , twelve Euros , not even twelve Pounds. Twelve Euros , what's that , like eight pounds or something like that , nine Pounds ?

Well we'd also be relying on the um the bulk buying in producement and such. I assume.

We have to look into the costs of those. So , sorry.


Well we'd also be relying on the um the bulk buying in producement and such. I assume.

We have to look into the costs of those. So , sorry.

Uh the previous slides just explain what's in the internal components of the uh remote control. If you go to the one before that uh so it just says what it does , translate the key press into an infra-red signal and this is received by the T_V_. Uh the chip just needs to detect the signal or detect the key press and then uh it'll send it to the tr the amplifier.


We have to look into the costs of those. So , sorry.

Uh the previous slides just explain what's in the internal components of the uh remote control. If you go to the one before that uh so it just says what it does , translate the key press into an infra-red signal and this is received by the T_V_. Uh the chip just needs to detect the signal or detect the key press and then uh it'll send it to the tr the amplifier.


We have to look into the costs of those. So , sorry.

Uh the previous slides just explain what's in the internal components of the uh remote control. If you go to the one before that uh so it just says what it does , translate the key press into an infra-red signal and this is received by the T_V_. Uh the chip just needs to detect the signal or detect the key press and then uh it'll send it to the tr the amplifier.

And uh then the next slide just shows how the uh copper wires uh interact with the buttons , the rubber buttons , uh to uh get sent to the chip. So that's just how the control works inside. Um we have to decide on what buttons we're gonna use.


Uh the previous slides just explain what's in the internal components of the uh remote control. If you go to the one before that uh so it just says what it does , translate the key press into an infra-red signal and this is received by the T_V_. Uh the chip just needs to detect the signal or detect the key press and then uh it'll send it to the tr the amplifier.

And uh then the next slide just shows how the uh copper wires uh interact with the buttons , the rubber buttons , uh to uh get sent to the chip. So that's just how the control works inside. Um we have to decide on what buttons we're gonna use.


And uh then the next slide just shows how the uh copper wires uh interact with the buttons , the rubber buttons , uh to uh get sent to the chip. So that's just how the control works inside. Um we have to decide on what buttons we're gonna use.

Um. . So in the information that you've been supplied , how feasible would you say that the idea of using an L_C_D_ looks ?


And uh then the next slide just shows how the uh copper wires uh interact with the buttons , the rubber buttons , uh to uh get sent to the chip. So that's just how the control works inside. Um we have to decide on what buttons we're gonna use.

Um. . So in the information that you've been supplied , how feasible would you say that the idea of using an L_C_D_ looks ?

Um  I think we can do it if  uh we use conventional batteries and not have solar cells or kinetic. Um and then maybe use single curved uh case. Because we might need it to be curved for the uh thumb to use the joyst joystick easily. Um and then you'll need the advanced chip obviously for the L_C_D_.


Um. . So in the information that you've been supplied , how feasible would you say that the idea of using an L_C_D_ looks ?

Um  I think we can do it if  uh we use conventional batteries and not have solar cells or kinetic. Um and then maybe use single curved uh case. Because we might need it to be curved for the uh thumb to use the joyst joystick easily. Um and then you'll need the advanced chip obviously for the L_C_D_.

Um I mean that sounds like quite a good requirement to me. Um conventional battery would seem to make sense.


Um  I think we can do it if  uh we use conventional batteries and not have solar cells or kinetic. Um and then maybe use single curved uh case. Because we might need it to be curved for the uh thumb to use the joyst joystick easily. Um and then you'll need the advanced chip obviously for the L_C_D_.

Um I mean that sounds like quite a good requirement to me. Um conventional battery would seem to make sense.

Um I'm not sure if there's any cost differences between single and double curved and I'm  I don't know about anybody else , but plastic or rubber as a traditional form of casing would seem to be a good way forward ? .


Um I mean that sounds like quite a good requirement to me. Um conventional battery would seem to make sense.

Um I'm not sure if there's any cost differences between single and double curved and I'm  I don't know about anybody else , but plastic or rubber as a traditional form of casing would seem to be a good way forward ? .

Mm. Um I'm actually gonna be bold and go oo go straight for rubber um for reasons I'll go into uh in more detail.


Um I'm not sure if there's any cost differences between single and double curved and I'm  I don't know about anybody else , but plastic or rubber as a traditional form of casing would seem to be a good way forward ? .

Mm. Um I'm actually gonna be bold and go oo go straight for rubber um for reasons I'll go into uh in more detail.


Mm. Um I'm actually gonna be bold and go oo go straight for rubber um for reasons I'll go into uh in more detail.


Yeah , well will we move on to user interface , and


Yep. Now I'm gonna have to work between the uh the slides and the uh  and the white board


Yep. Now I'm gonna have to work between the uh the slides and the uh  and the white board

'cause I actually I have some fairly concrete things this time. Uh um I was given a an H_T_M_L_ file giving um various ideas from uh from other previous remote control designs , and pretty much decided to just dump them all. I wasn't very impressed by them and they didn't seem to re uh nothing I saw seemed to meet the sorts of design specifications that we're going for today. Um so what I ra rather than looking at other remotes , uh ra oomp be better to simply look at the human hand. Um and try and f um and try and figure out a way of laying out the elements we've already decided on , um so that if r a if  so that the finger is e each finger or thumb is wherever it needs to be already. Um so uh next slide , if you please. Um and what we've basically decided on was the the um the joy uh the joystick , two function buttons and the L_C_D_ , just keep it paired down to the absolute minimum. I don't actually think we need the um the numeric keypad because if you m because one of the menus that we could have available um  v via via the L_C_D_ is one where you scroll through channels , so if there's something f  and be bear in mind since this isn't meant to work for um


'cause I actually I have some fairly concrete things this time. Uh um I was given a an H_T_M_L_ file giving um various ideas from uh from other previous remote control designs , and pretty much decided to just dump them all. I wasn't very impressed by them and they didn't seem to re uh nothing I saw seemed to meet the sorts of design specifications that we're going for today. Um so what I ra rather than looking at other remotes , uh ra oomp be better to simply look at the human hand. Um and try and f um and try and figure out a way of laying out the elements we've already decided on , um so that if r a if  so that the finger is e each finger or thumb is wherever it needs to be already. Um so uh next slide , if you please. Um and what we've basically decided on was the the um the joy uh the joystick , two function buttons and the L_C_D_ , just keep it paired down to the absolute minimum. I don't actually think we need the um the numeric keypad because if you m because one of the menus that we could have available um  v via via the L_C_D_ is one where you scroll through channels , so if there's something f  and be bear in mind since this isn't meant to work for um

f f f  for di for digital or um or for  or for cable , whatever ,


f f f  for di for digital or um or for  or for cable , whatever ,

you're basically looking at four or five terrestrial channels , and then um your V_C_ uh and then the channel through your V_C_R_ and or D_V_D_ player. And or um  box. So it's not  I'm not really excessively concerned about that. You must have two two modes , basic mode , where um the joystick's uh left right  left right for channels , up down for volume , um and the uh uh and the menu mode for uh further functions. Um now the reason I was particularly interested in using rubber for this is that if we're going to have a highly ergonomic design , um it needs to be ergonomic for left or right handed people. Um , so you


you're basically looking at four or five terrestrial channels , and then um your V_C_ uh and then the channel through your V_C_R_ and or D_V_D_ player. And or um  box. So it's not  I'm not really excessively concerned about that. You must have two two modes , basic mode , where um the joystick's uh left right  left right for channels , up down for volume , um and the uh uh and the menu mode for uh further functions. Um now the reason I was particularly interested in using rubber for this is that if we're going to have a highly ergonomic design , um it needs to be ergonomic for left or right handed people. Um , so you


you're basically looking at four or five terrestrial channels , and then um your V_C_ uh and then the channel through your V_C_R_ and or D_V_D_ player. And or um  box. So it's not  I'm not really excessively concerned about that. You must have two two modes , basic mode , where um the joystick's uh left right  left right for channels , up down for volume , um and the uh uh and the menu mode for uh further functions. Um now the reason I was particularly interested in using rubber for this is that if we're going to have a highly ergonomic design , um it needs to be ergonomic for left or right handed people. Um , so you

That would suggest the double curved design's probably going to be most appropriate , then.


That would suggest the double curved design's probably going to be most appropriate , then.


That would suggest the double curved design's probably going to be most appropriate , then.

Um , basi  basically what I  basically what the  what  be having um , I would say , the the whole thing articulated at two points , so that if you if you're handing it from a lef uh left or right handed user you can adjust it so that the um the L_C_  the L_C_D_ and the uh   The joystick would be in the right place. And  also this is  a rather nicer de uh design gimmick that the  the um you know the whole thing you know  it should have sort of organic feel to it


Um , basi  basically what I  basically what the  what  be having um , I would say , the the whole thing articulated at two points , so that if you if you're handing it from a lef uh left or right handed user you can adjust it so that the um the L_C_  the L_C_D_ and the uh   The joystick would be in the right place. And  also this is  a rather nicer de uh design gimmick that the  the um you know the whole thing you know  it should have sort of organic feel to it


Um , basi  basically what I  basically what the  what  be having um , I would say , the the whole thing articulated at two points , so that if you if you're handing it from a lef uh left or right handed user you can adjust it so that the um the L_C_  the L_C_D_ and the uh   The joystick would be in the right place. And  also this is  a rather nicer de uh design gimmick that the  the um you know the whole thing you know  it should have sort of organic feel to it

that it should be , you know , soft to touch and can be moved around all nice. Um okay


that it should be , you know , soft to touch and can be moved around all nice. Um okay

on to  on to the next uh to the next slide.


that it should be , you know , soft to touch and can be moved around all nice. Um okay

on to  on to the next uh to the next slide.

Um , yeah. Just to let you know we'll probably be quite tight for time as well ,


on to  on to the next uh to the next slide.

Um , yeah. Just to let you know we'll probably be quite tight for time as well ,


on to  on to the next uh to the next slide.

Um , yeah. Just to let you know we'll probably be quite tight for time as well ,

because I think you've probably got a lot you'd like to say , I guess.


Um , yeah. Just to let you know we'll probably be quite tight for time as well ,

because I think you've probably got a lot you'd like to say , I guess.

Yeah , 'kay basically um   I can add pretty pictures to this. The um  Assuming the hand  the hand to be in about sort of this position , um  hol uh holding the remote , the um the joystick unit should rest over the uh the joint of the f of the uh four finger so that it's directly accessible for the thumb. Um and it would need t there would need to be a  it would need to be articulated just below that so that it could be switched around for uh left or right handed users. So. You then have a grip section that can be more or less the same irrespective of handedness. You just have big  two big buttons that cover most of the area so it can  in the upper part , one for the four finger , one for the middle finger. Um , and that


because I think you've probably got a lot you'd like to say , I guess.

Yeah , 'kay basically um   I can add pretty pictures to this. The um  Assuming the hand  the hand to be in about sort of this position , um  hol uh holding the remote , the um the joystick unit should rest over the uh the joint of the f of the uh four finger so that it's directly accessible for the thumb. Um and it would need t there would need to be a  it would need to be articulated just below that so that it could be switched around for uh left or right handed users. So. You then have a grip section that can be more or less the same irrespective of handedness. You just have big  two big buttons that cover most of the area so it can  in the upper part , one for the four finger , one for the middle finger. Um , and that


because I think you've probably got a lot you'd like to say , I guess.

Yeah , 'kay basically um   I can add pretty pictures to this. The um  Assuming the hand  the hand to be in about sort of this position , um  hol uh holding the remote , the um the joystick unit should rest over the uh the joint of the f of the uh four finger so that it's directly accessible for the thumb. Um and it would need t there would need to be a  it would need to be articulated just below that so that it could be switched around for uh left or right handed users. So. You then have a grip section that can be more or less the same irrespective of handedness. You just have big  two big buttons that cover most of the area so it can  in the upper part , one for the four finger , one for the middle finger. Um , and that

Th  this part here is the joystick. This would be the actual grip. Probably where you'd want to have the battery as well.


Yeah , 'kay basically um   I can add pretty pictures to this. The um  Assuming the hand  the hand to be in about sort of this position , um  hol uh holding the remote , the um the joystick unit should rest over the uh the joint of the f of the uh four finger so that it's directly accessible for the thumb. Um and it would need t there would need to be a  it would need to be articulated just below that so that it could be switched around for uh left or right handed users. So. You then have a grip section that can be more or less the same irrespective of handedness. You just have big  two big buttons that cover most of the area so it can  in the upper part , one for the four finger , one for the middle finger. Um , and that

Th  this part here is the joystick. This would be the actual grip. Probably where you'd want to have the battery as well.


Th  this part here is the joystick. This would be the actual grip. Probably where you'd want to have the battery as well.

That would be probably the bulkiest part. And you then have , at the uh at the bottom , the L_C_D_ , and this would need to be articulated as well. And basically I'd want this to rest here , right at the base of the wrist. So it would fit just nicely in the hand. And again , this part could be rotated , so it can   So  so so that it can be adjusted to either left or right handed user. Um  So the t uh the top function button in basic mode would be the on off switch and menu mode would be the enter button. And then the bottom function buttons switches between between modes. Um now programming it  actually thi this is one thing I've found with um the replacement remote control. Programming them can be a right pain. So I thought th the simplest way around that would be to have um a cable to connect it to the computer some  some fair iv  fairly fairly simple software on the computer just so that you  on your  computer just so that you could um pr  program it at a rather  in a rather more comfortable interface. And you could download programs for it from uh for uh T_V_s from all sort of main manufacturers. Um though you  i it would be necessary to have uh have a m uh have a  ha have a mode for programming it without the computer , uh just in case there are there are still people left out there who don't have them yet. Um. But uh. Yeah.


That would be probably the bulkiest part. And you then have , at the uh at the bottom , the L_C_D_ , and this would need to be articulated as well. And basically I'd want this to rest here , right at the base of the wrist. So it would fit just nicely in the hand. And again , this part could be rotated , so it can   So  so so that it can be adjusted to either left or right handed user. Um  So the t uh the top function button in basic mode would be the on off switch and menu mode would be the enter button. And then the bottom function buttons switches between between modes. Um now programming it  actually thi this is one thing I've found with um the replacement remote control. Programming them can be a right pain. So I thought th the simplest way around that would be to have um a cable to connect it to the computer some  some fair iv  fairly fairly simple software on the computer just so that you  on your  computer just so that you could um pr  program it at a rather  in a rather more comfortable interface. And you could download programs for it from uh for uh T_V_s from all sort of main manufacturers. Um though you  i it would be necessary to have uh have a m uh have a  ha have a mode for programming it without the computer , uh just in case there are there are still people left out there who don't have them yet. Um. But uh. Yeah.


Okay.  So uh to gather my research , two basic methods. We compared uh whether people want the remote control to do a lot of stuff or they want it to look cool. And then we we research uh fashion trends in Europe , what's what's the new black ,


Okay.  So uh to gather my research , two basic methods. We compared uh whether people want the remote control to do a lot of stuff or they want it to look cool. And then we we research uh fashion trends in Europe , what's what's the new black ,

you know , as it goes.  Next slide please. Uh we found , in order of importance , people want the remote control to look cool more than they want it to to be cool. As in they want it to do a lot of good s they want it to look like it does a lot , and if it does do a lot that's a bonus , but they don't care so much , you know.  They want it to be  that's sounds a bit like a contradiction. Technology technical  technologically innovative. People want it to be that , but s still they care more about the way it looks than what it does. So like the interface is really important.  And easy to use , it it just so happens that uh from the second point to the third point is twice as important  I mean the second point is twice as important as the third point. People want it  I is it has to be cooler than easy to use , you know , if it has the newest features , even if it's difficult to use ,  prefer it to have the newest features. And if it's easy to use that's a bonus.  The fashion , now this is seems a bit odd to me , but fruit and veg is the new is the new black for furniture , for clothes , for shoes. How that relates to a remote control I don't know.


Okay.  So uh to gather my research , two basic methods. We compared uh whether people want the remote control to do a lot of stuff or they want it to look cool. And then we we research uh fashion trends in Europe , what's what's the new black ,

you know , as it goes.  Next slide please. Uh we found , in order of importance , people want the remote control to look cool more than they want it to to be cool. As in they want it to do a lot of good s they want it to look like it does a lot , and if it does do a lot that's a bonus , but they don't care so much , you know.  They want it to be  that's sounds a bit like a contradiction. Technology technical  technologically innovative. People want it to be that , but s still they care more about the way it looks than what it does. So like the interface is really important.  And easy to use , it it just so happens that uh from the second point to the third point is twice as important  I mean the second point is twice as important as the third point. People want it  I is it has to be cooler than easy to use , you know , if it has the newest features , even if it's difficult to use ,  prefer it to have the newest features. And if it's easy to use that's a bonus.  The fashion , now this is seems a bit odd to me , but fruit and veg is the new is the new black for furniture , for clothes , for shoes. How that relates to a remote control I don't know.

But I I see  I come on to that in the next in the next slide. Spongy. I've als I've been saying everything's the new black. Well spongy's the new black as well. So we have the choice between rubber and plastic. If it's the type of rubber that you can squeeze , you know , it's spongy , then  can I skip the rest ?


you know , as it goes.  Next slide please. Uh we found , in order of importance , people want the remote control to look cool more than they want it to to be cool. As in they want it to do a lot of good s they want it to look like it does a lot , and if it does do a lot that's a bonus , but they don't care so much , you know.  They want it to be  that's sounds a bit like a contradiction. Technology technical  technologically innovative. People want it to be that , but s still they care more about the way it looks than what it does. So like the interface is really important.  And easy to use , it it just so happens that uh from the second point to the third point is twice as important  I mean the second point is twice as important as the third point. People want it  I is it has to be cooler than easy to use , you know , if it has the newest features , even if it's difficult to use ,  prefer it to have the newest features. And if it's easy to use that's a bonus.  The fashion , now this is seems a bit odd to me , but fruit and veg is the new is the new black for furniture , for clothes , for shoes. How that relates to a remote control I don't know.

But I I see  I come on to that in the next in the next slide. Spongy. I've als I've been saying everything's the new black. Well spongy's the new black as well. So we have the choice between rubber and plastic. If it's the type of rubber that you can squeeze , you know , it's spongy , then  can I skip the rest ?

Oh yeah , I forgot to mention that. The uh rubber material is the type of stress ball material , not just normal rubber.


But I I see  I come on to that in the next in the next slide. Spongy. I've als I've been saying everything's the new black. Well spongy's the new black as well. So we have the choice between rubber and plastic. If it's the type of rubber that you can squeeze , you know , it's spongy , then  can I skip the rest ?

Oh yeah , I forgot to mention that. The uh rubber material is the type of stress ball material , not just normal rubber.


Oh yeah , I forgot to mention that. The uh rubber material is the type of stress ball material , not just normal rubber.


So um so my personal opinion ?  Um we want something fancy and techni technologically innovative , obviously. But what we what we need is something that looks like it's from the future that looks cool , that's that's different , you know , that's  everyone has a white remote control , black remote control , you need something cool. Like , titanium is cool but it's expensive. And maybe it's a bit of overkill for a remote control. Um now the fruit and veg options , either we we go in that direction or we stay totally away from it. Um  I mean the research did come up with fruit and veg , so maybe it is important for  it's the up to the interface guy. So if we stay away from it , s you know stay away from it , but if we're gonna go along with it then it doesn't necessarily have to be like an apple or something like that , or a kiwi fruit. It could be something like , I say potato peeler but I'm sure you guys have a have a much cooler idea than I do. So I think cool is the key.  Few questions about a spongy remote control. I've never seen one before. I've seen plastic remote controls. I think maybe they were  I don't know , back in the day when they first came up with remote controls , they had a reason for it being


So um so my personal opinion ?  Um we want something fancy and techni technologically innovative , obviously. But what we what we need is something that looks like it's from the future that looks cool , that's that's different , you know , that's  everyone has a white remote control , black remote control , you need something cool. Like , titanium is cool but it's expensive. And maybe it's a bit of overkill for a remote control. Um now the fruit and veg options , either we we go in that direction or we stay totally away from it. Um  I mean the research did come up with fruit and veg , so maybe it is important for  it's the up to the interface guy. So if we stay away from it , s you know stay away from it , but if we're gonna go along with it then it doesn't necessarily have to be like an apple or something like that , or a kiwi fruit. It could be something like , I say potato peeler but I'm sure you guys have a have a much cooler idea than I do. So I think cool is the key.  Few questions about a spongy remote control. I've never seen one before. I've seen plastic remote controls. I think maybe they were  I don't know , back in the day when they first came up with remote controls , they had a reason for it being

sturdy , you know. For being strong and sturdy. So um if we want something strong and sturdy , I say stay with plastic or titanium , but if we go with spongy , we can stress that you can drop this as many times as you want , it doesn't matter , it's spongy material , it's not gonna break , you know. I just don't know how the L_E_D_ and the lights are gonna fit into a spongy material because it's not gonna be completely squeezable. So how do things fit it ? And if we are gonna use spongy , we can say it's long lasting , you know it's damage resistant and stuff like that , so. So just to summarise , people want stuff that's cool , that's that looks like it's cool , and if it is cool then that's a bonus  doesn't have to be um people like fruit and veg. We can either go down that alley or stay totally away from it. People like spongy material. If we're gonna use spongy material we have to think of how practical it is , and how we can further promote that idea. And also , this was this year. So , things change all the time , every year you know they they always talk about this year , this is the new black. Well next year something else is gonna be the new black


sturdy , you know. For being strong and sturdy. So um if we want something strong and sturdy , I say stay with plastic or titanium , but if we go with spongy , we can stress that you can drop this as many times as you want , it doesn't matter , it's spongy material , it's not gonna break , you know. I just don't know how the L_E_D_ and the lights are gonna fit into a spongy material because it's not gonna be completely squeezable. So how do things fit it ? And if we are gonna use spongy , we can say it's long lasting , you know it's damage resistant and stuff like that , so. So just to summarise , people want stuff that's cool , that's that looks like it's cool , and if it is cool then that's a bonus  doesn't have to be um people like fruit and veg. We can either go down that alley or stay totally away from it. People like spongy material. If we're gonna use spongy material we have to think of how practical it is , and how we can further promote that idea. And also , this was this year. So , things change all the time , every year you know they they always talk about this year , this is the new black. Well next year something else is gonna be the new black

and we're stuck with last year's fruit and veg type stuff.


and we're stuck with last year's fruit and veg type stuff.


and we're stuck with last year's fruit and veg type stuff.

Well , um I would say that the most you could probably hope for is gaining a year's lead on most people anyway. You always have to bring out new designs , so if we can get next year then that's possibly a good place to start anyway. Um.


Well , um I would say that the most you could probably hope for is gaining a year's lead on most people anyway. You always have to bring out new designs , so if we can get next year then that's possibly a good place to start anyway. Um.


Well , um I would say that the most you could probably hope for is gaining a year's lead on most people anyway. You always have to bring out new designs , so if we can get next year then that's possibly a good place to start anyway. Um.

Seems like a a lot of the components could be off the shelf , so  I don't exactly what cost would be incurred. Um I can see your point about the number keypad , but I've  I would say that we can probably incorporate it into the menu system if you need to do traversal of a large number of channels.


Seems like a a lot of the components could be off the shelf , so  I don't exactly what cost would be incurred. Um I can see your point about the number keypad , but I've  I would say that we can probably incorporate it into the menu system if you need to do traversal of a large number of channels.


Seems like a a lot of the components could be off the shelf , so  I don't exactly what cost would be incurred. Um I can see your point about the number keypad , but I've  I would say that we can probably incorporate it into the menu system if you need to do traversal of a large number of channels.

My feeling would be that even if at a later date this was to be taking control of um  boxes as well um having the use of the L_C_D_ and the joystick would probably allow you to manipulate enough channel numbers for you to be


My feeling would be that even if at a later date this was to be taking control of um  boxes as well um having the use of the L_C_D_ and the joystick would probably allow you to manipulate enough channel numbers for you to be

Yeah , actually  if you've got a lot of channels , the number keypad can be quite annoying as well , becau   it's you know if you're trying to remember what uh , you know , what number's the discovery channel or whatever. It's just irritating.


My feeling would be that even if at a later date this was to be taking control of um  boxes as well um having the use of the L_C_D_ and the joystick would probably allow you to manipulate enough channel numbers for you to be

Yeah , actually  if you've got a lot of channels , the number keypad can be quite annoying as well , becau   it's you know if you're trying to remember what uh , you know , what number's the discovery channel or whatever. It's just irritating.

But if you h  but but but if you have a me but if you have a menu structure , then you can sub-group them.


Yeah , actually  if you've got a lot of channels , the number keypad can be quite annoying as well , becau   it's you know if you're trying to remember what uh , you know , what number's the discovery channel or whatever. It's just irritating.

But if you h  but but but if you have a me but if you have a menu structure , then you can sub-group them.


But if you h  but but but if you have a me but if you have a menu structure , then you can sub-group them.

You can incorporate names into the menu. Okay.


You can incorporate names into the menu. Okay.


You can incorporate names into the menu. Okay.

Even news , music. Like they do on uh sky digital kinda.


Even news , music. Like they do on uh sky digital kinda.


Even news , music. Like they do on uh sky digital kinda.

So what it looks like to me is we'll use a large number of standard components , um , say something like um lithium ion battery , the kind that you find in most um small hand held devices now. Um  Looks like we  going for a double curved design. Um I don't know what cost implications there are in that. Um , looks like we're pretty much decided on some kind of flexible rubber. Though I'd have to say  depending on how flexible it is , we might need to have some kind of inner frame.


So what it looks like to me is we'll use a large number of standard components , um , say something like um lithium ion battery , the kind that you find in most um small hand held devices now. Um  Looks like we  going for a double curved design. Um I don't know what cost implications there are in that. Um , looks like we're pretty much decided on some kind of flexible rubber. Though I'd have to say  depending on how flexible it is , we might need to have some kind of inner frame.

Yeah , I I would say definitely , I mean  I mean I mean the the idea of having it sort of articulated i th there would be basically two points of articulation. W um one below and one above the m the uh the main sort of grip. So


So what it looks like to me is we'll use a large number of standard components , um , say something like um lithium ion battery , the kind that you find in most um small hand held devices now. Um  Looks like we  going for a double curved design. Um I don't know what cost implications there are in that. Um , looks like we're pretty much decided on some kind of flexible rubber. Though I'd have to say  depending on how flexible it is , we might need to have some kind of inner frame.

Yeah , I I would say definitely , I mean  I mean I mean the the idea of having it sort of articulated i th there would be basically two points of articulation. W um one below and one above the m the uh the main sort of grip. So

Do you think there's any way we could maybe remove the articulation ? I can see why it looks appealing , but it could be a weak point in um the structure , do you think ?


Yeah , I I would say definitely , I mean  I mean I mean the the idea of having it sort of articulated i th there would be basically two points of articulation. W um one below and one above the m the uh the main sort of grip. So

Do you think there's any way we could maybe remove the articulation ? I can see why it looks appealing , but it could be a weak point in um the structure , do you think ?


Do you think there's any way we could maybe remove the articulation ? I can see why it looks appealing , but it could be a weak point in um the structure , do you think ?

If you're going with the fruit and veg thing ,  looks like a banana.


If you're going with the fruit and veg thing ,  looks like a banana.

I d I don't thi I don't think that it would be a  a structural weakness ,


If you're going with the fruit and veg thing ,  looks like a banana.

I d I don't thi I don't think that it would be a  a structural weakness ,

I mean if you have a firm s sub-structure , you can then incorporate articulation into that. If you then have a sort of outer skin of mm flexible , spongy rubber then you have something that is you know very much you know organic , and I think would look rather co I mean  mi  rather cool. I mean my drawing there doesn't doesn't do it justice , it makes it  makes it look more a little bit more like a vibrator than a than a uh than a remote control ,


I d I don't thi I don't think that it would be a  a structural weakness ,

I mean if you have a firm s sub-structure , you can then incorporate articulation into that. If you then have a sort of outer skin of mm flexible , spongy rubber then you have something that is you know very much you know organic , and I think would look rather co I mean  mi  rather cool. I mean my drawing there doesn't doesn't do it justice , it makes it  makes it look more a little bit more like a vibrator than a than a uh than a remote control ,


I mean if you have a firm s sub-structure , you can then incorporate articulation into that. If you then have a sort of outer skin of mm flexible , spongy rubber then you have something that is you know very much you know organic , and I think would look rather co I mean  mi  rather cool. I mean my drawing there doesn't doesn't do it justice , it makes it  makes it look more a little bit more like a vibrator than a than a uh than a remote control ,


However , one interesting point is , I don't know how serious you were there , but we  if we take some of the ideas  why don't we make the damn thing yellow to incorporate the des the colour of the logo ?


It's an  certainly a different colour from your average um


The noise for when you lose the banana , um f yeah , for when you lose the remote control ,  it could be like a a monkey noise or something like that , rather than a standard beep beep.


The noise for when you lose the banana , um f yeah , for when you lose the remote control ,  it could be like a a monkey noise or something like that , rather than a standard beep beep.

Y you know , you lose the monkey  the banana ,


The noise for when you lose the banana , um f yeah , for when you lose the remote control ,  it could be like a a monkey noise or something like that , rather than a standard beep beep.

Y you know , you lose the monkey  the banana ,

y  you lose the banana , you press a button , and you hear like monkey screams or something like that to direct you towards the banana.


Y you know , you lose the monkey  the banana ,

y  you lose the banana , you press a button , and you hear like monkey screams or something like that to direct you towards the banana.

I th uh I mean if it  I think that's something that could perhaps be programmable , though maybe have monkey as default. Um.


y  you lose the banana , you press a button , and you hear like monkey screams or something like that to direct you towards the banana.

I th uh I mean if it  I think that's something that could perhaps be programmable , though maybe have monkey as default. Um.

S oh , I was gonna talk about the programmable remote control. Now I think it'd be cool if you had one remote control that could work with all T_V_s , you know you s you click a button and it finds the frequency that works with your particular television.


I th uh I mean if it  I think that's something that could perhaps be programmable , though maybe have monkey as default. Um.

S oh , I was gonna talk about the programmable remote control. Now I think it'd be cool if you had one remote control that could work with all T_V_s , you know you s you click a button and it finds the frequency that works with your particular television.

But why you'd need to program it like as as a standard feature , I I don't know.


S oh , I was gonna talk about the programmable remote control. Now I think it'd be cool if you had one remote control that could work with all T_V_s , you know you s you click a button and it finds the frequency that works with your particular television.

But why you'd need to program it like as as a standard feature , I I don't know.

Well basi  basically the um for  f for uh  I mean e each manufacturer will have a partic  will have a particular command set that uh the T_V_ responds to.


But why you'd need to program it like as as a standard feature , I I don't know.

Well basi  basically the um for  f for uh  I mean e each manufacturer will have a partic  will have a particular command set that uh the T_V_ responds to.


Well basi  basically the um for  f for uh  I mean e each manufacturer will have a partic  will have a particular command set that uh the T_V_ responds to.


So um  usually what's done is you have this big booklet full of different possi  you'll have all of them sort of programmed in to the uh remote , and you'll have this little booklet of codes you then find your um ma uh find your manufacturer


come under that manufacturer's name 'til you find the right one.


come under that manufacturer's name 'til you find the right one.

That's because televisions , they don't give the remote control any type of feedback when you send it .


That's because televisions , they don't give the remote control any type of feedback when you send it .

So that's that's quite annoying and we probably would still have to do that. But if we had um some sort of hook-up to your computer as an option , then if you've got a computer you can avoid that rather irritating thing.


So that's that's quite annoying and we probably would still have to do that. But if we had um some sort of hook-up to your computer as an option , then if you've got a computer you can avoid that rather irritating thing.

An interesting point is that if the person doesn't have the computer , we can still make the process easier because instead of having to look up codes , maybe we can have it that one of the options they have is that they look up the name of the company on the L_C_D_


So that's that's quite annoying and we probably would still have to do that. But if we had um some sort of hook-up to your computer as an option , then if you've got a computer you can avoid that rather irritating thing.

An interesting point is that if the person doesn't have the computer , we can still make the process easier because instead of having to look up codes , maybe we can have it that one of the options they have is that they look up the name of the company on the L_C_D_

and then they maybe look up different names of um  different actual units that have been produced.


An interesting point is that if the person doesn't have the computer , we can still make the process easier because instead of having to look up codes , maybe we can have it that one of the options they have is that they look up the name of the company on the L_C_D_

and then they maybe look up different names of um  different actual units that have been produced.


and then they maybe look up different names of um  different actual units that have been produced.

Or we have the remote control just go through them until it's like does this do the correct function , and such.


and then they maybe look up different names of um  different actual units that have been produced.

Or we have the remote control just go through them until it's like does this do the correct function , and such.

Is it is it actually a book of names to digits , or is it like a few pages ?


Or we have the remote control just go through them until it's like does this do the correct function , and such.

Is it is it actually a book of names to digits , or is it like a few pages ?


Or we have the remote control just go through them until it's like does this do the correct function , and such.

Is it is it actually a book of names to digits , or is it like a few pages ?

I was just thinking , if we were to store this information , some type of mapping. This person probably need to use this feature like once , you know , when you first buy the remote control , or whenever they buy a new television , so


Is it is it actually a book of names to digits , or is it like a few pages ?

I was just thinking , if we were to store this information , some type of mapping. This person probably need to use this feature like once , you know , when you first buy the remote control , or whenever they buy a new television , so


I was just thinking , if we were to store this information , some type of mapping. This person probably need to use this feature like once , you know , when you first buy the remote control , or whenever they buy a new television , so


And it's a nuisance very close to the to um to actually purchasing it , so it's something that you're likely to be thinking about.


And it's a nuisance very close to the to um to actually purchasing it , so it's something that you're likely to be thinking about.

If you  if there's w i if there's one in the shop that's  that says it can avoid much of that nuisance , you might be favourably inclined towards it. Um mm.


If you  if there's w i if there's one in the shop that's  that says it can avoid much of that nuisance , you might be favourably inclined towards it. Um mm.

Okay , this   just to give us a rough idea of what we're meant to be doing for the next stage.


Okay , this   just to give us a rough idea of what we're meant to be doing for the next stage.

I'm pretty sure that you got that anyway. This is the conceptual one. Um. I think we've come up  I think we've covered everything we need to here. Um I think we've decided on what , you know , decided on standard items for most of um rubber and such , so we're now looking at the detailed design and what we need to be doing for the next meeting. Um  So for example , um I'll just start at the top , you've got yourself and the Industrial Designer gonna be working quite closely at this stage 'cause it'll be hard not to , obviously. Um looking from   prototyping of some des description using clay. Um I suppose you'll be told a lot more about that as uh  progress. Um  The user interface design , They're kind of  it looks they're  the idea I've pushed forward so far is maybe more of a physical one there , whereas  possibly be more interested in maybe how the L_C_D_'s going to incorporate , do you think ?


I'm pretty sure that you got that anyway. This is the conceptual one. Um. I think we've come up  I think we've covered everything we need to here. Um I think we've decided on what , you know , decided on standard items for most of um rubber and such , so we're now looking at the detailed design and what we need to be doing for the next meeting. Um  So for example , um I'll just start at the top , you've got yourself and the Industrial Designer gonna be working quite closely at this stage 'cause it'll be hard not to , obviously. Um looking from   prototyping of some des description using clay. Um I suppose you'll be told a lot more about that as uh  progress. Um  The user interface design , They're kind of  it looks they're  the idea I've pushed forward so far is maybe more of a physical one there , whereas  possibly be more interested in maybe how the L_C_D_'s going to incorporate , do you think ?

Or do you s perceive that most the design design decisions still need to be based on the physical layout ?


I'm pretty sure that you got that anyway. This is the conceptual one. Um. I think we've come up  I think we've covered everything we need to here. Um I think we've decided on what , you know , decided on standard items for most of um rubber and such , so we're now looking at the detailed design and what we need to be doing for the next meeting. Um  So for example , um I'll just start at the top , you've got yourself and the Industrial Designer gonna be working quite closely at this stage 'cause it'll be hard not to , obviously. Um looking from   prototyping of some des description using clay. Um I suppose you'll be told a lot more about that as uh  progress. Um  The user interface design , They're kind of  it looks they're  the idea I've pushed forward so far is maybe more of a physical one there , whereas  possibly be more interested in maybe how the L_C_D_'s going to incorporate , do you think ?

Or do you s perceive that most the design design decisions still need to be based on the physical layout ?

Um well I I think other than ge getting a sort of more aesthetically pleasing form for it , um mo most of the sort of layout design decisions are  are made , I would say. Um but then again , the um the menu structure to to a considerable extent that's gonna vary according to the model of television , and also any customisations that the user might wish to incorporate. So um and one of the nice things about having an L_C_D_ and a menu structure is that there is that flexibility to it.


Or do you s perceive that most the design design decisions still need to be based on the physical layout ?

Um well I I think other than ge getting a sort of more aesthetically pleasing form for it , um mo most of the sort of layout design decisions are  are made , I would say. Um but then again , the um the menu structure to to a considerable extent that's gonna vary according to the model of television , and also any customisations that the user might wish to incorporate. So um and one of the nice things about having an L_C_D_ and a menu structure is that there is that flexibility to it.

Mm-hmm , that's very true.  Um. Okay. Um got product evaluation as well. Um.


Or do you s perceive that most the design design decisions still need to be based on the physical layout ?

Um well I I think other than ge getting a sort of more aesthetically pleasing form for it , um mo most of the sort of layout design decisions are  are made , I would say. Um but then again , the um the menu structure to to a considerable extent that's gonna vary according to the model of television , and also any customisations that the user might wish to incorporate. So um and one of the nice things about having an L_C_D_ and a menu structure is that there is that flexibility to it.

Mm-hmm , that's very true.  Um. Okay. Um got product evaluation as well. Um.

Yeah , you see I don't  some of these things kinda logically follow the others. How can  t product evaluation , doesn't that come after actually seen a product prototype.


Um well I I think other than ge getting a sort of more aesthetically pleasing form for it , um mo most of the sort of layout design decisions are  are made , I would say. Um but then again , the um the menu structure to to a considerable extent that's gonna vary according to the model of television , and also any customisations that the user might wish to incorporate. So um and one of the nice things about having an L_C_D_ and a menu structure is that there is that flexibility to it.

Mm-hmm , that's very true.  Um. Okay. Um got product evaluation as well. Um.

Yeah , you see I don't  some of these things kinda logically follow the others. How can  t product evaluation , doesn't that come after actually seen a product prototype.

I I think we'd be  yeah , no , it'd be more a case of how do we envisage us performing the product evaluation once we have a model to test with.


Mm-hmm , that's very true.  Um. Okay. Um got product evaluation as well. Um.

Yeah , you see I don't  some of these things kinda logically follow the others. How can  t product evaluation , doesn't that come after actually seen a product prototype.

I I think we'd be  yeah , no , it'd be more a case of how do we envisage us performing the product evaluation once we have a model to test with.


Yeah , you see I don't  some of these things kinda logically follow the others. How can  t product evaluation , doesn't that come after actually seen a product prototype.

I I think we'd be  yeah , no , it'd be more a case of how do we envisage us performing the product evaluation once we have a model to test with.

Um so it'd be a case of do you think that just bringing users in to have them test it out , uh maybe putting a certain number of products into the field in certain places which I suppose is quite similar.


I I think we'd be  yeah , no , it'd be more a case of how do we envisage us performing the product evaluation once we have a model to test with.

Um so it'd be a case of do you think that just bringing users in to have them test it out , uh maybe putting a certain number of products into the field in certain places which I suppose is quite similar.


Um so it'd be a case of do you think that just bringing users in to have them test it out , uh maybe putting a certain number of products into the field in certain places which I suppose is quite similar.

Or just kind of hitting the streets and you know saying this is a new remote control , what do you think of the look of it ? Um


Um so it'd be a case of do you think that just bringing users in to have them test it out , uh maybe putting a certain number of products into the field in certain places which I suppose is quite similar.

Or just kind of hitting the streets and you know saying this is a new remote control , what do you think of the look of it ? Um

Okay , sure. At this stage we still have no no target audience or


Or just kind of hitting the streets and you know saying this is a new remote control , what do you think of the look of it ? Um

Okay , sure. At this stage we still have no no target audience or

I think the target audience is pretty much anybody under the age of say maybe sixty or something ludicrous.


Okay , sure. At this stage we still have no no target audience or

I think the target audience is pretty much anybody under the age of say maybe sixty or something ludicrous.

Um  the reason I'm saying that is we're just looking at a a replacement remote control , something that's stylish , so maybe you're even just maybe you're narrowing down your target audience simply by saying


I think the target audience is pretty much anybody under the age of say maybe sixty or something ludicrous.

Um  the reason I'm saying that is we're just looking at a a replacement remote control , something that's stylish , so maybe you're even just maybe you're narrowing down your target audience simply by saying


Um  the reason I'm saying that is we're just looking at a a replacement remote control , something that's stylish , so maybe you're even just maybe you're narrowing down your target audience simply by saying

if they're buying it that often or they're maybe looking to replace something then , they've got a bit of free cash , so that puts them potentially in the younger age bracket.


if they're buying it that often or they're maybe looking to replace something then , they've got a bit of free cash , so that puts them potentially in the younger age bracket.

Maybe even single , just for the reasons of um uh excess cash flow.


Maybe even single , just for the reasons of um uh excess cash flow.

Although of course I mean at twenty five Euros , I don't think we're looking at charging the earth for the uh device.


Although of course I mean at twenty five Euros , I don't think we're looking at charging the earth for the uh device.


Although of course I mean at twenty five Euros , I don't think we're looking at charging the earth for the uh device.

Think that's well within the normal bracket. Um your idea of the U_S_B_ would I think would largely depend on the cost. U_S_B_'s definitely one of the cheapest interfaces out there , but it might push the cost of the overall unit up 'cause it would require not just the connection but the chip for communicating with the rest of the system. That one might have to be based on


Think that's well within the normal bracket. Um your idea of the U_S_B_ would I think would largely depend on the cost. U_S_B_'s definitely one of the cheapest interfaces out there , but it might push the cost of the overall unit up 'cause it would require not just the connection but the chip for communicating with the rest of the system. That one might have to be based on


The the idea was that maybe it could connect up for um allowing a software interface on the P_C_ for a larger programming


The the idea was that maybe it could connect up for um allowing a software interface on the P_C_ for a larger programming

due to the fact that we've gone for such a nice , easy minimal design , normally. Um.


due to the fact that we've gone for such a nice , easy minimal design , normally. Um.

But didn't they just say it's just for T_V_ , or are we gonna


But didn't they just say it's just for T_V_ , or are we gonna


But didn't they just say it's just for T_V_ , or are we gonna

programming it to use your T_V_ , you might hook it up to the P_C_.


programming it to use your T_V_ , you might hook it up to the P_C_.


programming it to use your T_V_ , you might hook it up to the P_C_.

I'm not sure , but I'm thinking maybe that the additional cost of the U_S_B_ might be prohibitive.


I'm not sure , but I'm thinking maybe that the additional cost of the U_S_B_ might be prohibitive.

We don't know unless  it would make sense to.


We don't know unless  it would make sense to.

But you're gonna need some type of flash memory or something.


But you're gonna need some type of flash memory or something.


you wouldn't have to redo the whole thing once the batteries are changed , you know , once you turn off the power.


you wouldn't have to redo the whole thing once the batteries are changed , you know , once you turn off the power.

Yeah. The other thing I mean it I mean it would need to ha  it would need to have um some sort of on board memory anyway.


you wouldn't have to redo the whole thing once the batteries are changed , you know , once you turn off the power.

Yeah. The other thing I mean it I mean it would need to ha  it would need to have um some sort of on board memory anyway.

Um f  for one  for one thing because I do think that the menu system should be um uh I mean although you know , it's not going to be terribly complicated if it's just controlling one device , the menu system ought to be um o ought to be customisable and uh


Yeah. The other thing I mean it I mean it would need to ha  it would need to have um some sort of on board memory anyway.

Um f  for one  for one thing because I do think that the menu system should be um uh I mean although you know , it's not going to be terribly complicated if it's just controlling one device , the menu system ought to be um o ought to be customisable and uh

Different languages , uh different skins and stuff like that.


Um f  for one  for one thing because I do think that the menu system should be um uh I mean although you know , it's not going to be terribly complicated if it's just controlling one device , the menu system ought to be um o ought to be customisable and uh

Different languages , uh different skins and stuff like that.


Um f  for one  for one thing because I do think that the menu system should be um uh I mean although you know , it's not going to be terribly complicated if it's just controlling one device , the menu system ought to be um o ought to be customisable and uh

Different languages , uh different skins and stuff like that.

Mm-hmm. How uh how uh how you want say the um the the menu structure for flicking through channels if you've got lots of channels. That sort of thing.


Different languages , uh different skins and stuff like that.

Mm-hmm. How uh how uh how you want say the um the the menu structure for flicking through channels if you've got lots of channels. That sort of thing.

Sure.  I if it was customisable as in different languages and stuff , that does open  it is supposed to be international , right ? So.


Mm-hmm. How uh how uh how you want say the um the the menu structure for flicking through channels if you've got lots of channels. That sort of thing.

Sure.  I if it was customisable as in different languages and stuff , that does open  it is supposed to be international , right ? So.


Sure.  I if it was customisable as in different languages and stuff , that does open  it is supposed to be international , right ? So.

Um and we'd better be careful about the time as well. We've already had the five minute warning ,


Um and we'd better be careful about the time as well. We've already had the five minute warning ,


Um and we'd better be careful about the time as well. We've already had the five minute warning ,

so. Um. I would say yeah. International would make sense. Um you're gonna look at product evaluation. I'm I'd better start writing up a hell of a lot of crap. Um you're gonna look a bit more at the kind of the physical make up you say.


so. Um. I would say yeah. International would make sense. Um you're gonna look at product evaluation. I'm I'd better start writing up a hell of a lot of crap. Um you're gonna look a bit more at the kind of the physical make up you say.

Um looks like we're gonna need a maybe a kind of prototype in clay.  Uh we'll see how that goes. Um.


so. Um. I would say yeah. International would make sense. Um you're gonna look at product evaluation. I'm I'd better start writing up a hell of a lot of crap. Um you're gonna look a bit more at the kind of the physical make up you say.

Um looks like we're gonna need a maybe a kind of prototype in clay.  Uh we'll see how that goes. Um.

Are we going to be supplied with the clay is what I want to know.


Um looks like we're gonna need a maybe a kind of prototype in clay.  Uh we'll see how that goes. Um.

Are we going to be supplied with the clay is what I want to know.


Are we going to be supplied with the clay is what I want to know.

do  I think we've got an idea of where we need to go for the next meeting , would you say ?


do  I think we've got an idea of where we need to go for the next meeting , would you say ?


do  I think we've got an idea of where we need to go for the next meeting , would you say ?

they're going with the fashion thing , like the design , spongy rubber.


they're going with the fashion thing , like the design , spongy rubber.


they're going with the fashion thing , like the design , spongy rubber.

Mm.  I th I think I would largely want to actually steer clear of the whole sort of fruit and veg thing.


they're going with the fashion thing , like the design , spongy rubber.

Mm.  I th I think I would largely want to actually steer clear of the whole sort of fruit and veg thing.

Yeah , I would s that would be my my feeling.


Mm.  I th I think I would largely want to actually steer clear of the whole sort of fruit and veg thing.

Yeah , I would s that would be my my feeling.


Mm.  I th I think I would largely want to actually steer clear of the whole sort of fruit and veg thing.

Yeah , I would s that would be my my feeling.

Bu  but um but the spongy idea I like. I like it a lot.


Yeah , I would s that would be my my feeling.

Bu  but um but the spongy idea I like. I like it a lot.

We seem to have quite a general consensus that the idea of the the r rubber could be quite


Bu  but um but the spongy idea I like. I like it a lot.

We seem to have quite a general consensus that the idea of the the r rubber could be quite


We seem to have quite a general consensus that the idea of the the r rubber could be quite

I  having it i having it sort of br bright yellow I think that's quite a good idea , though maybe we could have options for colours as well.


I  having it i having it sort of br bright yellow I think that's quite a good idea , though maybe we could have options for colours as well.


I  having it i having it sort of br bright yellow I think that's quite a good idea , though maybe we could have options for colours as well.

and again this has the advantage of being harder to lose.


I  having it i having it sort of br bright yellow I think that's quite a good idea , though maybe we could have options for colours as well.

and again this has the advantage of being harder to lose.

Sure. I mean we are trying to promote a remote control , but we wanna keep the company brand as well ,


and again this has the advantage of being harder to lose.

Sure. I mean we are trying to promote a remote control , but we wanna keep the company brand as well ,


Sure. I mean we are trying to promote a remote control , but we wanna keep the company brand as well ,


So we always need to remember that somewhere we're meant to be getting the slogan on. Possibly I'm think I'm not sure but I'm seeing a little bit of space around maybe the joystick area which could be used. Um.


So we always need to remember that somewhere we're meant to be getting the slogan on. Possibly I'm think I'm not sure but I'm seeing a little bit of space around maybe the joystick area which could be used. Um.

Mm. Yeah. I was  like like I said before I I think we should have the R_R_ on the uh on the top function button.


So we always need to remember that somewhere we're meant to be getting the slogan on. Possibly I'm think I'm not sure but I'm seeing a little bit of space around maybe the joystick area which could be used. Um.

Mm. Yeah. I was  like like I said before I I think we should have the R_R_ on the uh on the top function button.

Okay. And I think that says it all really.


Mm. Yeah. I was  like like I said before I I think we should have the R_R_ on the uh on the top function button.

Okay. And I think that says it all really.


Okay. And I think that says it all really.


Okay Right  Um well this is the kick-off meeting for our our project. Um  and um this is just what we're gonna be doing over the next twenty five minutes. Um so first of all , just to kind of make sure that we all know each other ,

I'm Laura and I'm the project manager.  Do you want to introduce yourself again ?


I'm Laura and I'm the project manager.  Do you want to introduce yourself again ?


I'm Laura and I'm the project manager.  Do you want to introduce yourself again ?

Hi , I'm David and I'm supposed to be an industrial designer.


Hi , I'm David and I'm supposed to be an industrial designer.


Great. Okay.  Um so we're designing a new remote control and um  Oh I have to record who's here actually. So that's David , Andrew and Craig , isn't it ? And you all arrived on time. Um yeah so des uh  design a new remote control. Um , as you can see it's supposed to be original , trendy and user friendly. Um so that's kind of our our brief , as it were. Um and so there are three different stages to the design. Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails. What did you get ?


Great. Okay.  Um so we're designing a new remote control and um  Oh I have to record who's here actually. So that's David , Andrew and Craig , isn't it ? And you all arrived on time. Um yeah so des uh  design a new remote control. Um , as you can see it's supposed to be original , trendy and user friendly. Um so that's kind of our our brief , as it were. Um and so there are three different stages to the design. Um I'm not really sure what what you guys have already received um in your emails. What did you get ?

Um , I just got the project announcement about what the project is .


Um , I just got the project announcement about what the project is .


That's about it , didn't get anything else.


Um. So we're gonna have like individual work and then a meeting about it. And repeat that process three times. Um and at this point we get try out the whiteboard over there. Um.  So uh you get to draw your favourite animal and sum up your favourite characteristics of it. So who would like to go first ?


Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like    A beagle.


Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like    A beagle.

Um charac favourite characteristics of it ? Is that right ?


Okay. Very nice. Alright. My favourite animal is like    A beagle.

Um charac favourite characteristics of it ? Is that right ?

Uh , right , well basically um high priority for any animal for me is that they be willing to take a lot of physical affection from their family. And , yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health.


Um charac favourite characteristics of it ? Is that right ?

Uh , right , well basically um high priority for any animal for me is that they be willing to take a lot of physical affection from their family. And , yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health.

So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle.


Uh , right , well basically um high priority for any animal for me is that they be willing to take a lot of physical affection from their family. And , yeah that they have lots of personality and uh be fit and in robust good health.

So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle.


So this is blue. Blue beagle. My family's beagle.

Well , my favourite animal would be a monkey.


Well , my favourite animal would be a monkey.

Then they're small cute and furry , and uh when planet of the apes becomes real ,  I'm gonna be up there with them.


Then they're small cute and furry , and uh when planet of the apes becomes real ,  I'm gonna be up there with them.


You can take as long over this as you like , because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss.


You can take as long over this as you like , because we haven't got an awful lot to discuss.

Don't feel like you're in a rush , anyway.


Don't feel like you're in a rush , anyway.

I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles.


I coulda told you a whole lot more about beagles.


I don't know what mine is. I'm gonna have to think on the spot now.


Yeah. Um , well anyway , I don't know , it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. Um. Yes. Big reason is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic to animal fur ,


Yeah. Um , well anyway , I don't know , it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. Um. Yes. Big reason is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic to animal fur ,

so um fish was a natural choice. Um , yeah , and I kind of like whales. They come in and go  eat everything in sight.


Yeah. Um , well anyway , I don't know , it's just the first animal I can think off the top of my head. Um. Yes. Big reason is 'cause I'm allergic to most animals. Allergic to animal fur ,

so um fish was a natural choice. Um , yeah , and I kind of like whales. They come in and go  eat everything in sight.

And they're quite harmless and mild and interesting.


so um fish was a natural choice. Um , yeah , and I kind of like whales. They come in and go  eat everything in sight.

And they're quite harmless and mild and interesting.


so um fish was a natural choice. Um , yeah , and I kind of like whales. They come in and go  eat everything in sight.

And they're quite harmless and mild and interesting.

Okay. God , I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um.


And they're quite harmless and mild and interesting.

Okay. God , I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um.


Okay. God , I still don't know what I'm gonna write about. Um.


But I'll just draw a different kind of dog.


But I'll just draw a different kind of dog.

M my favourite animal is my own dog at home.  Um  That doesn't really look like him , actually. He looks more like a pig , actually. Ah well.


M my favourite animal is my own dog at home.  Um  That doesn't really look like him , actually. He looks more like a pig , actually. Ah well.


Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him , um  That's just to suggest that his tail wags.


Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him , um  That's just to suggest that his tail wags.

Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you , and very kind of affectionate and um  uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can  doesn't take up too much space.


Um he's a mixture of uh various things. Um and what do I like about him , um  That's just to suggest that his tail wags.

Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you , and very kind of affectionate and um  uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can  doesn't take up too much space.

Um and uh  And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well ,


Um he's very friendly and cheery and always pleased to see you , and very kind of affectionate and um  uh and he's quite quite wee as well so you know he can  doesn't take up too much space.

Um and uh  And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well ,

Is he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing ?


Um and uh  And he does a funny thing where he chases his tail as well ,

Is he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing ?

It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner


Is he aware that th it's his own cha tail he's chasing ?

It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner

and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail 'round the living room.


It is. I think it is. He only does it after he's had his dinner

and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail 'round the living room.


and um he'll just all of a sudden just get up and start chasing his tail 'round the living room.


Probably when he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and has forever been conditioned.


Probably when he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and has forever been conditioned.

Yeah , maybe. Maybe.  Right , um where did you find this ?


Probably when he was little he got lots of attention for doing it and has forever been conditioned.

Yeah , maybe. Maybe.  Right , um where did you find this ?

Okay.  Um what are we doing next ? Uh um. Okay , uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro , um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros , so fifty percent of the selling price.


Yeah , maybe. Maybe.  Right , um where did you find this ?

Okay.  Um what are we doing next ? Uh um. Okay , uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro , um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros , so fifty percent of the selling price.

'Kay. Um , can we just go over that again ?


Okay.  Um what are we doing next ? Uh um. Okay , uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro , um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros , so fifty percent of the selling price.

'Kay. Um , can we just go over that again ?


Okay.  Um what are we doing next ? Uh um. Okay , uh we now need to discuss the project finance. Um so according to the brief um we're gonna be selling this remote control for twenty five Euro , um and we're aiming to make fifty million Euro. Um so we're gonna be selling this on an international scale. And uh we don't want it to cost any more than uh twelve fifty Euros , so fifty percent of the selling price.

'Kay. Um , can we just go over that again ?

Uh , so bas at twel Alright , yeah. Okay. So cost  like production cost is twelve fifty ,


'Kay. Um , can we just go over that again ?

Uh , so bas at twel Alright , yeah. Okay. So cost  like production cost is twelve fifty ,


Uh , so bas at twel Alright , yeah. Okay. So cost  like production cost is twelve fifty ,

but selling price is  is that wholesale or retail ? Like on the shelf.


Uh , so bas at twel Alright , yeah. Okay. So cost  like production cost is twelve fifty ,

but selling price is  is that wholesale or retail ? Like on the shelf.

Um I dunno. I imagine  That's a good question.


but selling price is  is that wholesale or retail ? Like on the shelf.

Um I dunno. I imagine  That's a good question.


but selling price is  is that wholesale or retail ? Like on the shelf.

Um I dunno. I imagine  That's a good question.

I imagine it probably is our sale actually


Um I dunno. I imagine  That's a good question.

I imagine it probably is our sale actually


I imagine it probably is our sale actually

because it's probably up to the the um the retailer to uh sell it for whatever price they want. Um.


because it's probably up to the the um the retailer to uh sell it for whatever price they want. Um.


I mean do you think the fact that it's going to be sold internationally will have a bearing on how we design it at all ?


Well right away I'm wondering if there's um th th uh , like with D_V_D_ players , if there are zones.


um as well as uh characters , um different uh keypad styles and s symbols.


um as well as uh characters , um different uh keypad styles and s symbols.

Yeah. Well for a remote control , do you think that will be


Yeah. Well for a remote control , do you think that will be

I suppose it's depends on how complicated our remote control is.


I suppose it's depends on how complicated our remote control is.

It does make sense from maybe the design point of view 'cause you have more complicated characters like European languages , then you need more buttons.


It does make sense from maybe the design point of view 'cause you have more complicated characters like European languages , then you need more buttons.


And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region , whereas in another it'll be different , so


And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region , whereas in another it'll be different , so

What , just like in terms of like the wealth of the country ?


And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region , whereas in another it'll be different , so

What , just like in terms of like the wealth of the country ?

Just a chara just a characteristic of the


And then a and then al the other thing international is on top of the price. I'm thinking the price might might appeal to a certain market in one region , whereas in another it'll be different , so

What , just like in terms of like the wealth of the country ?

Just a chara just a characteristic of the

Like how much money people have to spend on things like ?


What , just like in terms of like the wealth of the country ?

Just a chara just a characteristic of the

Like how much money people have to spend on things like ?

Just  Or just like , basic product podi positioning , the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London , might not be such a big hit in Greece , who knows ,


Just a chara just a characteristic of the

Like how much money people have to spend on things like ?

Just  Or just like , basic product podi positioning , the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London , might not be such a big hit in Greece , who knows ,


Like how much money people have to spend on things like ?

Just  Or just like , basic product podi positioning , the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London , might not be such a big hit in Greece , who knows ,


Just  Or just like , basic product podi positioning , the twenty five Euro remote control might be a big hit in London , might not be such a big hit in Greece , who knows ,


Oh gosh , I should be writing all this down. Um.


Oh gosh , I should be writing all this down. Um.

Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here ,


Oh gosh , I should be writing all this down. Um.

Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here ,

thinking , 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic ,


Right away I'm making some kind of assumptions about what what information we're given here ,

thinking , 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic ,


thinking , 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic ,

something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away , is selling twenty five Euros , is that sort of the  thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda thing or


thinking , 'kay trendy probably means something other than just basic ,

something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away , is selling twenty five Euros , is that sort of the  thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda thing or

Yeah , yeah. Like how much does , you know , a remote control cost.


something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away , is selling twenty five Euros , is that sort of the  thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda thing or

Yeah , yeah. Like how much does , you know , a remote control cost.


something other than just standard. Um so I'm wondering right away , is selling twenty five Euros , is that sort of the  thi is this gonna to be like the premium product kinda thing or

Yeah , yeah. Like how much does , you know , a remote control cost.

Well twenty five Euro , I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something , isn't it ? Or no , is it as much as that ?


Yeah , yeah. Like how much does , you know , a remote control cost.

Well twenty five Euro , I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something , isn't it ? Or no , is it as much as that ?


Well twenty five Euro , I mean that's um that's about like eighteen pounds or something , isn't it ? Or no , is it as much as that ?


Um , I dunno , I've never bought a remote control , so I don't know how how good a remote control that would get you. Um.


Um , I dunno , I've never bought a remote control , so I don't know how how good a remote control that would get you. Um.

But yeah , I suppose it has to look kind of cool and gimmicky.


But yeah , I suppose it has to look kind of cool and gimmicky.

Um right , okay. Let me just scoot on ahead here. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all ? Thin


But yeah , I suppose it has to look kind of cool and gimmicky.

Um right , okay. Let me just scoot on ahead here. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all ? Thin

Do we have any other background information on like how that compares to other


Um right , okay. Let me just scoot on ahead here. Okay. Um well d Does anybody have anything to add to uh to the finance issue at all ? Thin

Do we have any other background information on like how that compares to other

No , actually. That would be useful , though ,


Do we have any other background information on like how that compares to other

No , actually. That would be useful , though ,

wouldn't it , if you knew like what your money would get you now.


No , actually. That would be useful , though ,

wouldn't it , if you knew like what your money would get you now.


wouldn't it , if you knew like what your money would get you now.


Mm-hmm. Yeah , interesting thing about discussing um production of a remote control for me is that l as you point out , I just don't think of remote controls as somethin something people consciously assess in their purchasing habits.


Mm-hmm. Yeah , interesting thing about discussing um production of a remote control for me is that l as you point out , I just don't think of remote controls as somethin something people consciously assess in their purchasing habits.

It's just like getting shoelaces with shoes or something.


It's just like getting shoelaces with shoes or something.


Like so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be , well the people producing television sets , maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want a better one or something.


Like so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be , well the people producing television sets , maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want a better one or something.

I know um  My parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things the house.


Like so sort of like how do you I I mean one one way of looking at it would be , well the people producing television sets , maybe they have to buy remote controls. Or another way is maybe people who have T_V_ sets are really fed up with their remote control and they really want a better one or something.

I know um  My parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things the house.

So um for them it was just how many devices control.


I know um  My parents went out and bought um remote controls because um they got fed up of having four or five different remote controls for each things the house.

So um for them it was just how many devices control.

Okay so  Right , so in function one of the priorities might be to combine as many uses


So um for them it was just how many devices control.

Okay so  Right , so in function one of the priorities might be to combine as many uses

Yeah. Right , so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know ,


Okay so  Right , so in function one of the priorities might be to combine as many uses

Yeah. Right , so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know ,

do your your satellite and your regular telly and your V_C_R_ and everything ?


Yeah. Right , so do you think that should be like a main design aim of our remote control d you know ,

do your your satellite and your regular telly and your V_C_R_ and everything ?

Yeah , yeah. Yeah. Well like um , maybe what we could use is a sort of like a example of a successful other piece technology is palm palm pilots. They're gone from being just like little sort of scribble boards to cameras , M_P_ three players , telephones ,