that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip. Therefore , messages uh will be controlled in the same manner. There should be extra features like lid buttons , maybe a beep. If too many buttons are pressed , mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um  you could see the time , you know , what show they want to watch. Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes. So the components of the thing should be button , bulbs , infra infra-red bulbs , battery , chips , wires , and maybe some kind of a holder uh for the for the uh item. Francino who is our um

interface designer um uh has mentioned that the  that it , of course , should have an on-off button , and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature.

And  even possibly a timer to  so that people can program  their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote.


interface designer um uh has mentioned that the  that it , of course , should have an on-off button , and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature.

And  even possibly a timer to  so that people can program  their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote.


interface designer um uh has mentioned that the  that it , of course , should have an on-off button , and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature.

And  even possibly a timer to  so that people can program  their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote.

Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time ? Okay.


And  even possibly a timer to  so that people can program  their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote.

Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time ? Okay.


Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time ? Okay.


Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time ? Okay.

Yeah , I think that pretty much is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm.


Yeah , I think that pretty much is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Okay , then we  I'm looking for three presentations. And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh , I don't I don't think so , so whoever w wants


Okay , then we  I'm looking for three presentations. And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh , I don't I don't think so , so whoever w wants


Okay , your slides. Okay. Oh , come on , close already.


Now as an interface designer , I would give more emphasis on the interface , how the remote looks like so that it is sellable , it is attractive to customers. Next , please. Okay. Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. This messages could be uh switch on-off message or switch to next channel message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel , like you can have the numbers one , two , three , four , up to nine.


Now as an interface designer , I would give more emphasis on the interface , how the remote looks like so that it is sellable , it is attractive to customers. Next , please. Okay. Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. This messages could be uh switch on-off message or switch to next channel message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel , like you can have the numbers one , two , three , four , up to nine.

Nine channel switches ? Is  Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.


Nine channel switches ? Is  Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yes , nine numbers. And then you have swapping of uh button


Nine channel switches ? Is  Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yes , nine numbers. And then you have swapping of uh button

by which  using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button , and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh mm eh scrolling the channels one by one.


Yes , nine numbers. And then you have swapping of uh button

by which  using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button , and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh mm eh scrolling the channels one by one.


by which  using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button , and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh mm eh scrolling the channels one by one.


Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume.


Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume.

Then , there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. For example , if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English , then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the  the subtitles on the screen.


Then , there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. For example , if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English , then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the  the subtitles on the screen.

Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour , colour of the picture , the contrast , sharpness , brightness of the picture. Now there should be a memory switch. There should be a mute button. Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call , and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T_V_ , but he he can reduce the sound , he can bring the volume down and he can watch  he can uh  while talking he can watch the T_V_. Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers , you can record your own voice


Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour , colour of the picture , the contrast , sharpness , brightness of the picture. Now there should be a memory switch. There should be a mute button. Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call , and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T_V_ , but he he can reduce the sound , he can bring the volume down and he can watch  he can uh  while talking he can watch the T_V_. Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers , you can record your own voice

which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television , for example , if you want to see  we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel , uh th now the the  uh yeah , the remote will  automatically it will switch to the ninth channel.


which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television , for example , if you want to see  we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel , uh th now the the  uh yeah , the remote will  automatically it will switch to the ninth channel.

So the T_V_ will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities.


So the T_V_ will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities.

So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. So this is one one of the interface which can be created.


So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. So this is one one of the interface which can be created.

A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features.


A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features.


Then , these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour , but they have many buttons.


Then , these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour , but they have many buttons.

So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. So you can you can design an interface which is very simple , and which is user-friendly. Even a kid can use that.


So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. So you can you can design an interface which is very simple , and which is user-friendly. Even a kid can use that.

So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah , so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser.


So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah , so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser.

And this has multi-purpose use , it can be used for T_V_ , it can be used for cable-satellite , it can be used for V_C_R_ , D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser.


So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah , so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser.

And this has multi-purpose use , it can be used for T_V_ , it can be used for cable-satellite , it can be used for V_C_R_ , D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser.

Can you go on to the next slide ? Yeah , now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use.


And this has multi-purpose use , it can be used for T_V_ , it can be used for cable-satellite , it can be used for V_C_R_ , D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser.

Can you go on to the next slide ? Yeah , now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use.


And this has multi-purpose use , it can be used for T_V_ , it can be used for cable-satellite , it can be used for V_C_R_ , D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser.

Can you go on to the next slide ? Yeah , now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use.

Uh this is user-friendly , it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours , different shapes.


Can you go on to the next slide ? Yeah , now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use.

Uh this is user-friendly , it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours , different shapes.


Uh this is user-friendly , it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours , different shapes.


Uh this is user-friendly , it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours , different shapes.

And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons


And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons

and all the important uh buttons are there in this small , compact , attractive child interface. Next slide , please. Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace.


and all the important uh buttons are there in this small , compact , attractive child interface. Next slide , please. Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace.


So this is   No this is a very big , you cannot  misplace it anywhere.


So this is   No this is a very big , you cannot  misplace it anywhere.

So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose.


So this is   No this is a very big , you cannot  misplace it anywhere.

So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose.

This i this is one such interface which can be created.  And the personal preference  uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular uh function.


So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose.

This i this is one such interface which can be created.  And the personal preference  uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular uh function.


This i this is one such interface which can be created.  And the personal preference  uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular uh function.


This i this is one such interface which can be created.  And the personal preference  uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular uh function.

Mm-hmm. Okay , thank you very much. Uh any comments on uh her presentation ?


Mm-hmm. Okay , thank you very much. Uh any comments on uh her presentation ?

Well , um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there.


Well , um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there.


But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. I don't think that we can get uh  The T-shape is good , the child one is good , the too big to misplace , I think it's just funny.


But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. I don't think that we can get uh  The T-shape is good , the child one is good , the too big to misplace , I think it's just funny.

Um I don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter.


Um I don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter.


Um I don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter.

It's it's gonna be a little bit too unwieldy.


It's it's gonna be a little bit too unwieldy.

No , I think the these are her presentations , but uh as far as the decision making we getting to that after after


It's it's gonna be a little bit too unwieldy.

No , I think the these are her presentations , but uh as far as the decision making we getting to that after after

Yeah mm. Mm-hmm. Have to come back to that later. Okay.


No , I think the these are her presentations , but uh as far as the decision making we getting to that after after

Yeah mm. Mm-hmm. Have to come back to that later. Okay.

but if  I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her presentation.


Yeah mm. Mm-hmm. Have to come back to that later. Okay.

but if  I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her presentation.

No , I think her presentation was good , and she really explored all the options. Yeah.


but if  I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her presentation.

No , I think her presentation was good , and she really explored all the options. Yeah.

Mm right. Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um ? Mm-hmm. Okay ,


No , I think her presentation was good , and she really explored all the options. Yeah.

Mm right. Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um ? Mm-hmm. Okay ,


Mm right. Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um ? Mm-hmm. Okay ,


Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components and the technical side of the remote controller design.


Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components and the technical side of the remote controller design.

Uh , can you go on to the next slide , please.


Uh , can you go on to the next slide , please.

I have just brief  uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction.


Uh , can you go on to the next slide , please.

I have just brief  uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction.

Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit , battery , etcetera , etcetera , it's like  Uh it can be a plastic one , hard plastic , so that it can be strong , even if you just uh uh ,  you know , if you   if it falls down , then it doesn't  break. So it should be strong.


I have just brief  uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction.

Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit , battery , etcetera , etcetera , it's like  Uh it can be a plastic one , hard plastic , so that it can be strong , even if you just uh uh ,  you know , if you   if it falls down , then it doesn't  break. So it should be strong.


I have just brief  uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction.

Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit , battery , etcetera , etcetera , it's like  Uh it can be a plastic one , hard plastic , so that it can be strong , even if you just uh uh ,  you know , if you   if it falls down , then it doesn't  break. So it should be strong.

And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable.


Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit , battery , etcetera , etcetera , it's like  Uh it can be a plastic one , hard plastic , so that it can be strong , even if you just uh uh ,  you know , if you   if it falls down , then it doesn't  break. So it should be strong.

And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable.


And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable.


yeah , and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours , blue , red , green , so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit.


yeah , and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours , blue , red , green , so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit.

Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it  you should  we should have a highly sophisticated one. And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside , it should it should uh  be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. And uh it should be with uh  um  equipped with timer and alarm facility. And the uh other component we should  uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through  through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery , capacitor. Can you go on to the next slide , please ?


Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it  you should  we should have a highly sophisticated one. And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside , it should it should uh  be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. And uh it should be with uh  um  equipped with timer and alarm facility. And the uh other component we should  uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through  through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery , capacitor. Can you go on to the next slide , please ?

Uh a diode , a transistor , a resonator , these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are  which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh , I would like to suggest one thing uh if we  uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery , even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much.


Uh a diode , a transistor , a resonator , these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are  which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh , I would like to suggest one thing uh if we  uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery , even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much.


Uh a diode , a transistor , a resonator , these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are  which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh , I would like to suggest one thing uh if we  uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery , even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much.

It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can  If it is a rechargeable one , then uh people can use it for a long time , so in that way we can cut cut the cost , but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide , please. And how it works , how the remote controller works.


It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can  If it is a rechargeable one , then uh people can use it for a long time , so in that way we can cut cut the cost , but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide , please. And how it works , how the remote controller works.

Thank you. Uh when you press a button , when you do that , you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button , and it will send some signals through the wires ,


It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can  If it is a rechargeable one , then uh people can use it for a long time , so in that way we can cut cut the cost , but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide , please. And how it works , how the remote controller works.

Thank you. Uh when you press a button , when you do that , you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button , and it will send some signals through the wires ,

and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button , number one you have pressed , then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed.


Thank you. Uh when you press a button , when you do that , you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button , and it will send some signals through the wires ,

and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button , number one you have pressed , then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed.

It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button , every individual button , has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one , then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b  that that button , and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like  you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now , that signal , that morse code , has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we  which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately , that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal , then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works.


and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button , number one you have pressed , then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed.

It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button , every individual button , has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one , then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b  that that button , and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like  you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now , that signal , that morse code , has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we  which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately , that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal , then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works.

Can you go to the next slide , please. Yeah , I have few pictures. When you look at the uh um remote controller uh it's it's  it  this is a normal remote controller. And  to the next slide , please.


It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button , every individual button , has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one , then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b  that that button , and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like  you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now , that signal , that morse code , has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we  which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately , that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal , then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works.

Can you go to the next slide , please. Yeah , I have few pictures. When you look at the uh um remote controller uh it's it's  it  this is a normal remote controller. And  to the next slide , please.


Can you go to the next slide , please. Yeah , I have few pictures. When you look at the uh um remote controller uh it's it's  it  this is a normal remote controller. And  to the next slide , please.

And where we had a a few buttons and all. And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board and few electronic components ,


And where we had a a few buttons and all. And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board and few electronic components ,

like you can see a chip there which is having eighteen pins ,


like you can see a chip there which is having eighteen pins ,


like you can see a chip there which is having eighteen pins ,

and also a capac uh a capacitor , three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm  yeah , and di and a diode transistor.


and also a capac uh a capacitor , three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm  yeah , and di and a diode transistor.


and also a capac uh a capacitor , three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm  yeah , and di and a diode transistor.

The electronic components  uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d  diode transistors an Yeah , di um can y uh you can see the T_A_ double one eight three five labelled uh chip um.


The electronic components  uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d  diode transistors an Yeah , di um can y uh you can see the T_A_ double one eight three five labelled uh chip um.


Uh you can also see the uh uh the green  two green things are uh these are  they are  they are resistors ,


Uh you can also see the uh uh the green  two green things are uh these are  they are  they are resistors ,

and uh just beside that you can see a transistor , and a uh uh cylinder shape , uh that one is a capacitor. Uh and also there are uh  um resistors  uh sorry , ther there is a diode.


and uh just beside that you can see a transistor , and a uh uh cylinder shape , uh that one is a capacitor. Uh and also there are uh  um resistors  uh sorry , ther there is a diode.


So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually , uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper , because uh  uh when you  when you are building uh some circuits  some um uh circuits and also wires , it's it's better to go for printing , because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing , nothing like uh , you know , you don't need to use wires and all.


So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually , uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper , because uh  uh when you  when you are building uh some circuits  some um uh circuits and also wires , it's it's better to go for printing , because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing , nothing like uh , you know , you don't need to use wires and all.

It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board.


So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually , uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper , because uh  uh when you  when you are building uh some circuits  some um uh circuits and also wires , it's it's better to go for printing , because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing , nothing like uh , you know , you don't need to use wires and all.

It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board.

Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board , and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons , like when you press a button , the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it will ch its ch se send a signal  signals to the , yeah , um integrated circuit.


It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board.

Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board , and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons , like when you press a button , the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it will ch its ch se send a signal  signals to the , yeah , um integrated circuit.


It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board.

Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board , and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons , like when you press a button , the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it will ch its ch se send a signal  signals to the , yeah , um integrated circuit.

Can you go to the next slide , please. Uh so this is  these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh , round marks ?


Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board , and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons , like when you press a button , the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it will ch its ch se send a signal  signals to the , yeah , um integrated circuit.

Can you go to the next slide , please. Uh so this is  these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh , round marks ?


Can you go to the next slide , please. Uh so this is  these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh , round marks ?


Next , please. And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like  instead off buttons we have some scrolls. Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it , but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range. Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and k uh  uh uh full  a complete chip.


Next , please. And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like  instead off buttons we have some scrolls. Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it , but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range. Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and k uh  uh uh full  a complete chip.

Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery , a more ingenious uh hard dynamo , um a kinetic provision of energy , more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery , uh or we can use solar sells. Uh.


Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery , a more ingenious uh hard dynamo , um a kinetic provision of energy , more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery , uh or we can use solar sells. Uh.


Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery , a more ingenious uh hard dynamo , um a kinetic provision of energy , more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery , uh or we can use solar sells. Uh.

Yeah. Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. Uh usually , the cases and card flat  that w we see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller.


Yeah. Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. Uh usually , the cases and card flat  that w we see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller.


And you have more pictures. Uh we have five minutes to the end of the meeting.


And you have more pictures. Uh we have five minutes to the end of the meeting.

Yeah , maybe d uh I have just one more slide , I think. Um. Like we can have a ma material such as plastic , rubber , wood , titanium , but titanium we can't use. Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re  or an advanced chip on the print , um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. Um yeah the uh  for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. An Yeah , that's it. It's all for me now ,


Yeah , maybe d uh I have just one more slide , I think. Um. Like we can have a ma material such as plastic , rubber , wood , titanium , but titanium we can't use. Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re  or an advanced chip on the print , um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. Um yeah the uh  for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. An Yeah , that's it. It's all for me now ,


Uh yeah , on the scroll and the push-button , um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button ?


Uh yeah , on the scroll and the push-button , um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button ?

No , no , no , th the the the scrolling wheels are different , like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls , uh  which which we used to do before ten ten years before , I think.


Uh yeah , on the scroll and the push-button , um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button ?

No , no , no , th the the the scrolling wheels are different , like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls , uh  which which we used to do before ten ten years before , I think.

Now , nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all.


No , no , no , th the the the scrolling wheels are different , like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls , uh  which which we used to do before ten ten years before , I think.

Now , nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all.

So I think it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons.


Now , nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all.

So I think it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons.


So I think it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons.


We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision , and the marketing expert has to present her her thing.


We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision , and the marketing expert has to present her her thing.

Okay. Go right to my first  my next slide.


We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision , and the marketing expert has to present her her thing.

Okay. Go right to my first  my next slide.

Um alright , my method is uh  I'm interested in what the competition is doing , and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition , so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I  spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that , I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have , and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that , you know , small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand.


Okay. Go right to my first  my next slide.

Um alright , my method is uh  I'm interested in what the competition is doing , and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition , so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I  spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that , I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have , and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that , you know , small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand.


Um alright , my method is uh  I'm interested in what the competition is doing , and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition , so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I  spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that , I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have , and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that , you know , small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand.

Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um , they want buttons whose functions are obvious , and they want um as few buttons as possible , and they don't  care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute , it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead , I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um  and our preference is , as far as I'm concerned , are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be  look really great and it has to come out before the others , so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features , um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to  li  two things , I think , that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs  every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel , spongy feeling things , things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item.


Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um , they want buttons whose functions are obvious , and they want um as few buttons as possible , and they don't  care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute , it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead , I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um  and our preference is , as far as I'm concerned , are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be  look really great and it has to come out before the others , so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features , um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to  li  two things , I think , that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs  every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel , spongy feeling things , things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item.


Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um , they want buttons whose functions are obvious , and they want um as few buttons as possible , and they don't  care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute , it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead , I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um  and our preference is , as far as I'm concerned , are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be  look really great and it has to come out before the others , so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features , um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to  li  two things , I think , that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs  every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel , spongy feeling things , things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item.

Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote.


Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote.


Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote.

And uh so what do we think on the concept


And uh so what do we think on the concept

You wanna try to come back to yours , and limit yours a bit ?


And uh so what do we think on the concept

You wanna try to come back to yours , and limit yours a bit ?

Uh yes , I would like to include this feature which is called as voice recogniser.


You wanna try to come back to yours , and limit yours a bit ?

Uh yes , I would like to include this feature which is called as voice recogniser.


Uh yes , I would like to include this feature which is called as voice recogniser.


So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned ?


So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned ?

This could be uh one feature which could be sellable.


So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned ?

This could be uh one feature which could be sellable.

Yeah h that could that could that could be our star feature.


This could be uh one feature which could be sellable.

Yeah h that could that could that could be our star feature.


Yeah h that could that could that could be our star feature.


Yeah h that could that could that could be our star feature.

That that  be really good , yeah , I agree with that.


That that  be really good , yeah , I agree with that.


That that  be really good , yeah , I agree with that.

Yeah , but but I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how  how uh far it will work , because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems , issues.


Yeah , but but I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how  how uh far it will work , because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems , issues.

Yeah , it's not distance problem it it's recognising a person's voice ,


Yeah , it's not distance problem it it's recognising a person's voice ,

like maybe different people will be having different voices , so it like it's uh  everything so i


like maybe different people will be having different voices , so it like it's uh  everything so i

Well , you you teach  You have to teach uh


like maybe different people will be having different voices , so it like it's uh  everything so i

Well , you you teach  You have to teach uh

So to get a good recogni recognising system , it's a costly thing , I think.


Well , you you teach  You have to teach uh

So to get a good recogni recognising system , it's a costly thing , I think.

No , it's it's , uh yeah , it it's like your recording of uh all uh um a question already , and then you're expecting an answer from th For example , you have a T_V_ system , I'm the user and my family members are the user ,


So to get a good recogni recognising system , it's a costly thing , I think.

No , it's it's , uh yeah , it it's like your recording of uh all uh um a question already , and then you're expecting an answer from th For example , you have a T_V_ system , I'm the user and my family members are the user ,

I will already record uh a question like , uh good morning ,


No , it's it's , uh yeah , it it's like your recording of uh all uh um a question already , and then you're expecting an answer from th For example , you have a T_V_ system , I'm the user and my family members are the user ,

I will already record uh a question like , uh good morning ,


I will already record uh a question like , uh good morning ,

like around eight o'clock I want to see the news in the television.


like around eight o'clock I want to see the news in the television.

So I'll say just good morning and the T_V_ will switch on. It will recognise my voice and will switch on.


So I'll say just good morning and the T_V_ will switch on. It will recognise my voice and will switch on.

Okay , before we get too far off here um , the components of the concept is the energy. What kind of energy do we foresee ? Battery.


Okay , before we get too far off here um , the components of the concept is the energy. What kind of energy do we foresee ? Battery.


That that's that's gonna be most cost-effective and the best thing.


And the case. And I think we all agree on the case , we wanna have something uh maybe bright , colourful.


And the case. And I think we all agree on the case , we wanna have something uh maybe bright , colourful.

Bright , colourful , trendy trendy design , and strong.


Bright , colourful , trendy trendy design , and strong.


Mm-hmm. Trendy design , compact and strong.


Mm-hmm. Trendy design , compact and strong.

User interface concept , uh  interface type , supplements


User interface concept , uh  interface type , supplements

That will be your area I think , right , Jana.


User interface concept , uh  interface type , supplements

That will be your area I think , right , Jana.

Uh. Um like the switches , like we use buttons for user interface.


That will be your area I think , right , Jana.

Uh. Um like the switches , like we use buttons for user interface.


Uh. Um like the switches , like we use buttons for user interface.


yeah. And  Not sure what they mean by supplements.


yeah. And  Not sure what they mean by supplements.

Supplements like different types of features buttons , like can have a f mute button or a swapping button.


Supplements like different types of features buttons , like can have a f mute button or a swapping button.


Supplements like different types of features buttons , like can have a f mute button or a swapping button.

or  or like her speech recognition would also be a supplement.


or  or like her speech recognition would also be a supplement.


or  or like her speech recognition would also be a supplement.

Her speech recognition feature would be a supplement.


Her speech recognition feature would be a supplement.


Okay , so why don't we put down speech recognition if possible pending some more research from our industrial engineer on how expensive that is.


Okay. Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes , and the uh I_D_ is to  this is the individual actions to be taken until then , to have the look and feel design , and uh the U_I_D_ is supposed to  uh come up with the user interface design ,


Okay. Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes , and the uh I_D_ is to  this is the individual actions to be taken until then , to have the look and feel design , and uh the U_I_D_ is supposed to  uh come up with the user interface design ,

and the marketing expert with the product evaluation.


and the marketing expert with the product evaluation.

In this phase , the two of you , Jana and Francine , have to work together on a prototype using modelling clay , it says here.


In this phase , the two of you , Jana and Francine , have to work together on a prototype using modelling clay , it says here.

You will receive specific  instructions  will be sent to you by your coaches.


You will receive specific  instructions  will be sent to you by your coaches.


You will receive specific  instructions  will be sent to you by your coaches.

Um if you have any questions , you know , you you can always uh contact me um or uh or your coach , I suppose.


Um if you have any questions , you know , you you can always uh contact me um or uh or your coach , I suppose.


Um if you have any questions , you know , you you can always uh contact me um or uh or your coach , I suppose.

Um  so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes , according to our timetable here.


Um  so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes , according to our timetable here.


As close to your mouth as you can get it.


OK , so for  for  For people wearing the wireless mikes , like  like this one , I find the easiest way to wear it is sorta this  this sorta like that.


OK , so for  for  For people wearing the wireless mikes , like  like this one , I find the easiest way to wear it is sorta this  this sorta like that.

This is  chan channel channel one one two three


This is  chan channel channel one one two three

It 's actually a lot more comfortable then if you try to put it over your temples ,


It 's actually a lot more comfortable then if you try to put it over your temples ,


Adam 's just trying to generate good uh data for the recognizer there.


Adam 's just trying to generate good uh data for the recognizer there.

Yeah , I think we 're supposed to  that 's right.


Adam 's just trying to generate good uh data for the recognizer there.

Yeah , I think we 're supposed to  that 's right.

And then also , for  for all of them , if your boom is adjustable , the boom should be towards the corner of your mouth ,


Yeah , I think we 're supposed to  that 's right.

And then also , for  for all of them , if your boom is adjustable , the boom should be towards the corner of your mouth ,

By the way , there was a bug. Yeah , i it wasn't using the proper


And then also , for  for all of them , if your boom is adjustable , the boom should be towards the corner of your mouth ,

By the way , there was a bug. Yeah , i it wasn't using the proper


By the way , there was a bug. Yeah , i it wasn't using the proper

and about a uh a thumb to a thumb and a half distance away from your mouth ,


and about a uh a thumb to a thumb and a half distance away from your mouth ,


Oh that 's interesting. So why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?


Oh that 's interesting. So why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?

so so Jane , you could actually do even a little closer to your mouth ,


so so Jane , you could actually do even a little closer to your mouth ,

Why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?


Why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?

I could  can this be adjuste like this ?


Why didn't you get the same results and the unadapted ?

I could  can this be adjuste like this ?

Oh , because when it estimates the transformer pro produces like a single matrix or something.


I could  can this be adjuste like this ?

Oh , because when it estimates the transformer pro produces like a single matrix or something.


Oh , because when it estimates the transformer pro produces like a single matrix or something.


I mean , we could  we could up the gain slightly if you wanted to.


So can you talk a bit ? I thought it might be too


So can you talk a bit ? I thought it might be too

OK , yeah , channel B , one two three four five.


So can you talk a bit ? I thought it might be too

OK , yeah , channel B , one two three four five.

Yeah , it 's alright. So , the gain isn't real good.


OK , yeah , channel B , one two three four five.

Yeah , it 's alright. So , the gain isn't real good.


Yeah , it 's alright. So , the gain isn't real good.


Um everyone should have at least two forms possibly three in front of you depending on who you are.


Um everyone should have at least two forms possibly three in front of you depending on who you are.

Um we  we 're doing a new speaker form and you only have to spea fill out the speaker form once but everyone does need to do it. And so that 's the name , sex , email , et cetera.


Um we  we 're doing a new speaker form and you only have to spea fill out the speaker form once but everyone does need to do it. And so that 's the name , sex , email , et cetera.

We  we had a lot of discussion about the variety of English and so on so if you don't know what to put just leave it blank. Um I  I designed the form and I don't know what to put for my own region ,


We  we had a lot of discussion about the variety of English and so on so if you don't know what to put just leave it blank. Um I  I designed the form and I don't know what to put for my own region ,


Um may I make one suggestion ? Instead of age put date of  uh year of birth


Um may I make one suggestion ? Instead of age put date of  uh year of birth

because age will change , but The year of birth changes , you know , stays the same , usually.


because age will change , but The year of birth changes , you know , stays the same , usually.


course on the other  on the other hand you could  you view it as the age at the time of the


course on the other  on the other hand you could  you view it as the age at the time of the

Well the thing is , if ten years from now you look at this form knowing that


Well the thing is , if ten years from now you look at this form knowing that

Yes , but what we care about is the age at  at the recording date rather than the


Yes , but what we care about is the age at  at the recording date rather than the


Yes , but what we care about is the age at  at the recording date rather than the

W we don't care how they  old they really are.


W we don't care how they  old they really are.


W we don't care how they  old they really are.

Well I guess it depends on how long the corpus is gonna be collected for.


Well I guess it depends on how long the corpus is gonna be collected for.


Either way yeah I think  I think age is alright


Either way yeah I think  I think age is alright

and then um there will be attached to this a point or two these forms uh so that you 'll be able to extract the date off that


and then um there will be attached to this a point or two these forms uh so that you 'll be able to extract the date off that

so , anyway. And so then you also have a digits form which needs to be filled out every time , the speaker form only once , the digit form every time even if you don't read the digits you have to fill out the digits form so that we know that you were at the meeting. OK ? And then also if you haven't filled one out already you do have to fill out a consent form. And that should just be one person whose name I don't know. OK ?


so , anyway. And so then you also have a digits form which needs to be filled out every time , the speaker form only once , the digit form every time even if you don't read the digits you have to fill out the digits form so that we know that you were at the meeting. OK ? And then also if you haven't filled one out already you do have to fill out a consent form. And that should just be one person whose name I don't know. OK ?


Uh oh that 's a good idea. I shouldn't run the meeting.


Uh oh that 's a good idea. I shouldn't run the meeting.

Uh well I have  I wanna talk about new microphones and wireless stuff.


Uh oh that 's a good idea. I shouldn't run the meeting.

Uh well I have  I wanna talk about new microphones and wireless stuff.

And I 'm sure Liz and Andreas wanna talk about recognition results. Anything else ?


Uh well I have  I wanna talk about new microphones and wireless stuff.

And I 'm sure Liz and Andreas wanna talk about recognition results. Anything else ?

I guess  what time do we have to leave ? Three thirty ?


And I 'm sure Liz and Andreas wanna talk about recognition results. Anything else ?

I guess  what time do we have to leave ? Three thirty ?


I guess  what time do we have to leave ? Three thirty ?


Um Well , I  I sent out an email s couple hours ago so um with Andreas ' help um Andreas put together a sort of no frills recognizer which is uh gender - dependent but like no adaptation , no cross - word models , no trigrams  a bigram recognizer and that 's trained on Switchboard which is telephone conversations. Um and thanks to Don 's help wh who  Don took the first meeting that Jane had transcribed and um  you know separated  used the individual channels we segmented it in into the segments that Jane had used and uh Don sampled that so  so eight K um and then we ran up to I guess the first twenty minutes , up to synch time of one two zero zero so is that  that 's twenty minutes or so ? Um yeah because I guess there 's some ,


Um Well , I  I sent out an email s couple hours ago so um with Andreas ' help um Andreas put together a sort of no frills recognizer which is uh gender - dependent but like no adaptation , no cross - word models , no trigrams  a bigram recognizer and that 's trained on Switchboard which is telephone conversations. Um and thanks to Don 's help wh who  Don took the first meeting that Jane had transcribed and um  you know separated  used the individual channels we segmented it in into the segments that Jane had used and uh Don sampled that so  so eight K um and then we ran up to I guess the first twenty minutes , up to synch time of one two zero zero so is that  that 's twenty minutes or so ? Um yeah because I guess there 's some ,

and Don can talk to Jane about this , there 's some bug in the actual synch time file that ah uh I 'm  we 're not sure where it came from but stuff after that was a little messier. Anyway so it 's twenty minutes and I actually


and Don can talk to Jane about this , there 's some bug in the actual synch time file that ah uh I 'm  we 're not sure where it came from but stuff after that was a little messier. Anyway so it 's twenty minutes and I actually


and Don can talk to Jane about this , there 's some bug in the actual synch time file that ah uh I 'm  we 're not sure where it came from but stuff after that was a little messier. Anyway so it 's twenty minutes and I actually

I  was that  did that  did that recording have the glitch in the middle ?


I  was that  did that  did that recording have the glitch in the middle ?

I 'm puzzled by that. I  oh  oh , I see.


I 'm puzzled by that. I  oh  oh , I see.


if it was twenty minutes in then I don't know


suddenly  the  the overall error rate when we first ran it was like eighty percent


suddenly  the  the overall error rate when we first ran it was like eighty percent

but i looking at  the first sentences looked much better than that and then suddenly it turned very bad and then we noticed that the reference was always one off with the  it was actually recognized


but i looking at  the first sentences looked much better than that and then suddenly it turned very bad and then we noticed that the reference was always one off with the  it was actually recognized


but i looking at  the first sentences looked much better than that and then suddenly it turned very bad and then we noticed that the reference was always one off with the  it was actually recognized

Yeah , that might be  that might be  that might be my fault.


Yeah , that might be  that might be  that might be my fault.


No actually it was  yeah i it was a complicated bug because they were sometimes one off and then sometimes totally random so um


No actually it was  yeah i it was a complicated bug because they were sometimes one off and then sometimes totally random so um

yeah , I was pretty certain that it worked up until that time ,


yeah , I was pretty certain that it worked up until that time ,


but that  that will be completely gone if this synch time problem


but that  that will be completely gone if this synch time problem

So  so we have everything recognized but we scored only the first uh whatever , up to that time to


So  so we have everything recognized but we scored only the first uh whatever , up to that time to


we should say something about the glitch. He  he can say something about the glitch.


we should say something about the glitch. He  he can say something about the glitch.

Cuz it 's  it 's  it 's  h it 's  it 's very small


Cuz it 's  it 's  it 's  h it 's  it 's very small


Cuz it 's  it 's  it 's  h it 's  it 's very small

There  there  there 's an acoustic glitch that occurs where um the channels get slightly asynchronized


There  there  there 's an acoustic glitch that occurs where um the channels get slightly asynchronized


so the  that  that problem has gone away in the original driver believe it or not when the SSH key gen ran the driver paused for a fraction of a second


so the  that  that problem has gone away in the original driver believe it or not when the SSH key gen ran the driver paused for a fraction of a second

and so the channels get a little asynchronous and so if you listen to it in the middle there 's a little part where it starts doing  doing click sounds.


and so the channels get a little asynchronous and so if you listen to it in the middle there 's a little part where it starts doing  doing click sounds.


There 's  the previous page has some more information about sort of what was wrong


There 's  the previous page has some more information about sort of what was wrong

so  so un unsurprisingly Adam is the golden voice ,


so  so un unsurprisingly Adam is the golden voice ,


What happens is it actually affects the script that Don


What happens is it actually affects the script that Don

I mean if we know about it then I guess it could always be checked for it


What happens is it actually affects the script that Don

I mean if we know about it then I guess it could always be checked for it

Well the acoustic one shouldn't do anything.


I mean if we know about it then I guess it could always be checked for it

Well the acoustic one shouldn't do anything.


I mean if we know about it then I guess it could always be checked for it

Well the acoustic one shouldn't do anything.

Yeah , I don't know exactly what affected it


Well the acoustic one shouldn't do anything.

Yeah , I don't know exactly what affected it


Yeah , I don't know exactly what affected it


Yeah. It  it had no effect on my transcription ,


Yeah. It  it had no effect on my transcription ,

you know , I mean I  I had no trouble hearing it and  and having time bins


Yeah. It  it had no effect on my transcription ,

you know , I mean I  I had no trouble hearing it and  and having time bins

I do remember seeing once the transcriber produce an incorrect XML file where one of the synch numbers was incorrect.


you know , I mean I  I had no trouble hearing it and  and having time bins

I do remember seeing once the transcriber produce an incorrect XML file where one of the synch numbers was incorrect.


you know , I mean I  I had no trouble hearing it and  and having time bins

I do remember seeing once the transcriber produce an incorrect XML file where one of the synch numbers was incorrect.

Well , the  the synch time  the synch numbers have more significant digits than they should ,


I do remember seeing once the transcriber produce an incorrect XML file where one of the synch numbers was incorrect.

Well , the  the synch time  the synch numbers have more significant digits than they should ,


Well , the  the synch time  the synch numbers have more significant digits than they should ,


right ? There 's things that are l in smaller increments than a frame.


right ? There 's things that are l in smaller increments than a frame.

And so then , I mean you look at that and it 's got you know more than three significant digits in a synch time then that can't be right


And so then , I mean you look at that and it 's got you know more than three significant digits in a synch time then that can't be right


that 's why we only have twenty minutes but there 's a significant amount of


that 's why we only have twenty minutes but there 's a significant amount of

Non - zero ? Um there are like more  cuz there 's a lot of zeros I tacked on just because of the way the script ran ,


that 's why we only have twenty minutes but there 's a significant amount of

Non - zero ? Um there are like more  cuz there 's a lot of zeros I tacked on just because of the way the script ran ,

I mean but there were there was a point.


Non - zero ? Um there are like more  cuz there 's a lot of zeros I tacked on just because of the way the script ran ,

I mean but there were there was a point.


I mean but there were there was a point.

The other one I saw was non non - monotonic synch times


The other one I saw was non non - monotonic synch times

and that definitely indicra indicates a bug.


and that definitely indicra indicates a bug.

Well that would really be a problem , yeah. So anyway these are just the ones that are the prebug for one meeting.


Well that would really be a problem , yeah. So anyway these are just the ones that are the prebug for one meeting.


this is really encouraging cuz this is free recognition ,


there 's no I mean the language model for Switchboard is totally different so you can see some like this Trent Lott which


there 's no I mean the language model for Switchboard is totally different so you can see some like this Trent Lott which

um I mean these are sort of funny ones ,


um I mean these are sort of funny ones ,

there 's a lot of perfect ones and good ones and all the references , I mean you can read them and when we get more results you can look through and see


um I mean these are sort of funny ones ,

there 's a lot of perfect ones and good ones and all the references , I mean you can read them and when we get more results you can look through and see

I and as I said I would like to look at the lattices


there 's a lot of perfect ones and good ones and all the references , I mean you can read them and when we get more results you can look through and see

I and as I said I would like to look at the lattices


I and as I said I would like to look at the lattices

because it sounded like even the ones it got wrong it sort of got it right ?


because it sounded like even the ones it got wrong it sort of got it right ?


because it sounded like even the ones it got wrong it sort of got it right ?

There are a fair number of errors that are , you know where  got the plural S wrong or the inflection on the verb wrong.


There are a fair number of errors that are , you know where  got the plural S wrong or the inflection on the verb wrong.


There are a fair number of errors that are , you know where  got the plural S wrong or the inflection on the verb wrong.

Yeah , and who cares ? And  and there were lots of  of course the " uh uh " - s , " in on " - s " of uh " - s.


Yeah , and who cares ? And  and there were lots of  of course the " uh uh " - s , " in on " - s " of uh " - s.


a lot of the errors I think are out of vocabulary ,


a lot of the errors I think are out of vocabulary ,

so is it like PZM is three words , it 's PZM ,


so is it like PZM is three words , it 's PZM ,

I mean there 's nothing There 's no language model for PZM or


I mean there 's nothing There 's no language model for PZM or


I mean there 's nothing There 's no language model for PZM or

Did you say there 's no language for PZM ?


Did you say there 's no language for PZM ?


Did you say there 's no language for PZM ?

Do you mean  so every time someone says PZM it 's an error ? Maybe we shouldn't say PZM in these meetings.


Did you say there 's no language for PZM ?

Do you mean  so every time someone says PZM it 's an error ? Maybe we shouldn't say PZM in these meetings.

Well  well there 's all kinds of other stuff like Jimlet and I mean um anyway there


Do you mean  so every time someone says PZM it 's an error ? Maybe we shouldn't say PZM in these meetings.

Well  well there 's all kinds of other stuff like Jimlet and I mean um anyway there


Do you mean  so every time someone says PZM it 's an error ? Maybe we shouldn't say PZM in these meetings.

Well  well there 's all kinds of other stuff like Jimlet and I mean um anyway there

Well , we don't even know what that means ,


Well  well there 's all kinds of other stuff like Jimlet and I mean um anyway there

Well , we don't even know what that means ,

so  but this is really encouraging because


Well , we don't even know what that means ,

so  but this is really encouraging because


so  but this is really encouraging because

so , I mean the bottom line is even though it 's not a huge amount of data um it should be uh reasonable to actually run recognition and be like within the scope of  of r reasonable s you know Switchboard this is like h about how well we do on Switchboard - two data with the Switchboard - one trained  mostly trained recognizer


so , I mean the bottom line is even though it 's not a huge amount of data um it should be uh reasonable to actually run recognition and be like within the scope of  of r reasonable s you know Switchboard this is like h about how well we do on Switchboard - two data with the Switchboard - one trained  mostly trained recognizer


so , I mean the bottom line is even though it 's not a huge amount of data um it should be uh reasonable to actually run recognition and be like within the scope of  of r reasonable s you know Switchboard this is like h about how well we do on Switchboard - two data with the Switchboard - one trained  mostly trained recognizer

and Switchboard - two is  got sort of a different population of speakers and a different topic


and Switchboard - two is  got sort of a different population of speakers and a different topic

and they 're talking about things in the news that happened after Switchboard - one so there was @ @ so that 's great.


and Switchboard - two is  got sort of a different population of speakers and a different topic

and they 're talking about things in the news that happened after Switchboard - one so there was @ @ so that 's great.

Yeah. Yeah so we 're in better shape than we were say when we did  had the ninety - three workshop


and they 're talking about things in the news that happened after Switchboard - one so there was @ @ so that 's great.

Yeah. Yeah so we 're in better shape than we were say when we did  had the ninety - three workshop


and they 're talking about things in the news that happened after Switchboard - one so there was @ @ so that 's great.

Yeah. Yeah so we 're in better shape than we were say when we did  had the ninety - three workshop

and we were all getting like seventy percent error on Switchboard.


Yeah. Yeah so we 're in better shape than we were say when we did  had the ninety - three workshop

and we were all getting like seventy percent error on Switchboard.


and we were all getting like seventy percent error on Switchboard.


and thanks to Andreas who , I mean this is a


and thanks to Andreas who , I mean this is a

Well especially for the very first run , I mean you


Well especially for the very first run , I mean you


the first run I ran of Switchboard I got a hundred twenty percent word error but


I mean there 's a bunch of things in this note to various people


I mean there 's a bunch of things in this note to various people

especially I guess um with Jane that  that would help for  since we have this new data now uh in order to go from the transcripts more easily to um just the words that the recognizer would use for scoring. I had to deal with some of it by hand but I think a lot of it can be automated s by


I mean there 's a bunch of things in this note to various people

especially I guess um with Jane that  that would help for  since we have this new data now uh in order to go from the transcripts more easily to um just the words that the recognizer would use for scoring. I had to deal with some of it by hand but I think a lot of it can be automated s by

Oh one thing I guess I didn't get so you know the language model was straight from  from bigram from Switchboard the acoustic models were also from Switchboard or  or


especially I guess um with Jane that  that would help for  since we have this new data now uh in order to go from the transcripts more easily to um just the words that the recognizer would use for scoring. I had to deal with some of it by hand but I think a lot of it can be automated s by

Oh one thing I guess I didn't get so you know the language model was straight from  from bigram from Switchboard the acoustic models were also from Switchboard or  or


Oh one thing I guess I didn't get so you know the language model was straight from  from bigram from Switchboard the acoustic models were also from Switchboard or  or

So they didn't have anything from this acoustic data in yet ?


So they didn't have anything from this acoustic data in yet ?


And actually  we actually um used Switchboard telephone bandwidth models


And actually  we actually um used Switchboard telephone bandwidth models

Well that 's  those are the only we ones there are ,


Well that 's  those are the only we ones there are ,


so that 's the on that 's the only acoustic training data that we have a lot of


and I guess Ramana , so a guy at SRI said that um there 's not a huge amount of difference going from


and I guess Ramana , so a guy at SRI said that um there 's not a huge amount of difference going from

it 's  it 's not like we probably lose a huge amount but we won't know because we don't have any full band models for s conversational speech.


and I guess Ramana , so a guy at SRI said that um there 's not a huge amount of difference going from

it 's  it 's not like we probably lose a huge amount but we won't know because we don't have any full band models for s conversational speech.

It 's probably not as bad as going f using full band models on telephone band speech


it 's  it 's not like we probably lose a huge amount but we won't know because we don't have any full band models for s conversational speech.

It 's probably not as bad as going f using full band models on telephone band speech


It 's probably not as bad as going f using full band models on telephone band speech


but for Broadcast News when we  we played around between the two there wasn't a huge loss.


but for Broadcast News when we  we played around between the two there wasn't a huge loss.

I should  I should say that  the language model is not just Switchboard


I should  I should say that  the language model is not just Switchboard


I should  I should say that  the language model is not just Switchboard

it 's also  I mean there 's uh actually more data is from Broadcast News but with a little less weight


it 's also  I mean there 's uh actually more data is from Broadcast News but with a little less weight


Um By the way just  for fun we also ran ,


Um By the way just  for fun we also ran ,

I mean our complete system starts by doing ge a gender detection


I mean our complete system starts by doing ge a gender detection


um and it might be reassuring for everybody to know that it got all the genders right.


Yeah but you know Jane and Adam have you kn about equal performance


Yeah but you know Jane and Adam have you kn about equal performance

and uh and that 's interesting cuz I think the  their language models are quite different so and I  I 'm pretty sure from listening to Eric that , you know given the words he was saying and given his pronunciation that the reason that he 's so much worse is the lapel.


and uh and that 's interesting cuz I think the  their language models are quite different so and I  I 'm pretty sure from listening to Eric that , you know given the words he was saying and given his pronunciation that the reason that he 's so much worse is the lapel.


So it 's nice now if we can just sort of eliminate the lapel one when  when we get new microphones


cuz he certainly in that  when as a  as a burp user he was  he was a pretty uh strong one.


cuz he certainly in that  when as a  as a burp user he was  he was a pretty uh strong one.

he  he  he sounded to me just from  he sounded like a ,


he  he  he sounded to me just from  he sounded like a ,


Right so um so I guess the good news is that


Right so um so I guess the good news is that

and  and again this is without a lot of the sort of bells and whistles that we c can do with the SRI system and we 'll have more data and we can also start to maybe adapt the language models once we have enough meetings. So this is only twenty minutes of one meeting with no  no tailoring at all.


Right so um so I guess the good news is that

and  and again this is without a lot of the sort of bells and whistles that we c can do with the SRI system and we 'll have more data and we can also start to maybe adapt the language models once we have enough meetings. So this is only twenty minutes of one meeting with no  no tailoring at all.

I mean clearly there are um with just a small amount of uh actual meeting transcriptions uh thrown into the language model you can probably do quite a bit better because the


and  and again this is without a lot of the sort of bells and whistles that we c can do with the SRI system and we 'll have more data and we can also start to maybe adapt the language models once we have enough meetings. So this is only twenty minutes of one meeting with no  no tailoring at all.

I mean clearly there are um with just a small amount of uh actual meeting transcriptions uh thrown into the language model you can probably do quite a bit better because the

Yeah. The voca the vocabulary especially


I mean clearly there are um with just a small amount of uh actual meeting transcriptions uh thrown into the language model you can probably do quite a bit better because the

Yeah. The voca the vocabulary especially


Yeah. The voca the vocabulary especially


I think  um well we have to see but  it 's uh


I think  um well we have to see but  it 's uh

And I have to try it on the far field mike


And I have to try it on the far field mike


and then there 's things like for the transcription I got when someone has a digit in the transcript I don't know if they said , you know one one or eleven and I don't know if they said Tcl or TCL. there 's things like that where , you know the um we 'll probably have to ask the transcribers to indicate some of those kinds of things but in general it was really good and I 'm hoping  and this is  this is good news because that means the force alignments should be good and if the force alignments , I mean it 's good news anyway but if the force alignments are good we can get all kinds of information. For example about , you know prosodic information and speaker overlaps and so forth directly from the aligned times. Um so that 'll be something that actually in order to assess the forced alignment um we need s some linguists or some people to look at it and say are these boundaries in about the right place. Because it 's just gonna give us time marks


I 'm sorry just for overlaps is we did it for not  not for words.


I 'm sorry just for overlaps is we did it for not  not for words.

Right. So this would be like if you take the words um you know and force align them on all the individual close talk uh close talking mikes then how good are these sort of in reality


Right. So this would be like if you take the words um you know and force align them on all the individual close talk uh close talking mikes then how good are these sort of in reality

So we might want to take twenty minutes and do a closer word level transcription. Maybe actually mark the word boundaries.


So we might want to take twenty minutes and do a closer word level transcription. Maybe actually mark the word boundaries.

Oh or  i have someone look at the alignments uh maybe a linguist who can say um you know roughly if these are OK and how far away they are.


So we might want to take twenty minutes and do a closer word level transcription. Maybe actually mark the word boundaries.

Oh or  i have someone look at the alignments uh maybe a linguist who can say um you know roughly if these are OK and how far away they are.

Um but I think it 's gotta be pretty good because otherwise the word recognition would be really b crummy.


Oh or  i have someone look at the alignments uh maybe a linguist who can say um you know roughly if these are OK and how far away they are.

Um but I think it 's gotta be pretty good because otherwise the word recognition would be really b crummy.


Um but I think it 's gotta be pretty good because otherwise the word recognition would be really b crummy.

It wouldn't necessarily be the other way around , if the wor word recognition was crummy the alignment might be OK but if the word recognition is this good the alignment should be pretty good. So that 's about it.


It wouldn't necessarily be the other way around , if the wor word recognition was crummy the alignment might be OK but if the word recognition is this good the alignment should be pretty good. So that 's about it.

I wonder if this is a good thing or a bad thing though , I mean if we 're pr


I wonder if this is a good thing or a bad thing though , I mean if we 're pr

yeah if we 're producing a database that everybody 's gonna do well on


yeah if we 're producing a database that everybody 's gonna do well on

Don't worry about it w d that 's that 's the close talking mikes. Try it on the P Z Ms and  and


yeah if we 're producing a database that everybody 's gonna do well on

Don't worry about it w d that 's that 's the close talking mikes. Try it on the P Z Ms and  and

Yeah , which  I would  which  well n n n n


Don't worry about it w d that 's that 's the close talking mikes. Try it on the P Z Ms and  and

Yeah , which  I would  which  well n n n n

So the real value of the database is these ?


Yeah , which  I would  which  well n n n n

So the real value of the database is these ?


So the real value of the database is these ?

I mean there 's still just the w the percentages and , I mean they 're not  a as we 've talked about before there 's probably overlaps


I mean there 's still just the w the percentages and , I mean they 're not  a as we 've talked about before there 's probably overlaps


I mean there 's still just the w the percentages and , I mean they 're not  a as we 've talked about before there 's probably overlaps

there 's probably overlaps in  in uh in fair number in Switchboard as well so but  but there 's other phenomena , it 's a meeting , it 's a different thing and there 's lots of stuff to learn with the close talking mikes but uh yeah certainly I 'd like to see as soon as we could , I mean maybe get some of the glitches out of the way but soon as we could how well it does with say with the P Z Ms or maybe even one of the


there 's probably overlaps in  in uh in fair number in Switchboard as well so but  but there 's other phenomena , it 's a meeting , it 's a different thing and there 's lots of stuff to learn with the close talking mikes but uh yeah certainly I 'd like to see as soon as we could , I mean maybe get some of the glitches out of the way but soon as we could how well it does with say with the P Z Ms or maybe even one of the

and uh see if it 's , you know is it a hundred twenty percent or maybe it 's not maybe if with some adaptation you get this down to fifty percent or forty - five percent or something and  and then if for the PZM it 's seventy or something like that that 's actually something we could sort of work with a little bit


and uh see if it 's , you know is it a hundred twenty percent or maybe it 's not maybe if with some adaptation you get this down to fifty percent or forty - five percent or something and  and then if for the PZM it 's seventy or something like that that 's actually something we could sort of work with a little bit


and uh see if it 's , you know is it a hundred twenty percent or maybe it 's not maybe if with some adaptation you get this down to fifty percent or forty - five percent or something and  and then if for the PZM it 's seventy or something like that that 's actually something we could sort of work with a little bit

No I think it 's really , I mean this way we least have a baseline we know that for instance the transcripts are very good so once you can get to the words that the recognizer which is a total subset of the things you need to understand the  the text um yeah they 're pretty good so and  and it 's converting automatically from the XML to the chopping up the wave forms and so forth it 's not the case that the end of one utterance is in the next segment and things like that which we had more problems with in Switchboard so that 's good. And um let 's see there was one more thing I wanted to  to mention  I can't remember um Sorry can't remember. anyway it 's


No I think it 's really , I mean this way we least have a baseline we know that for instance the transcripts are very good so once you can get to the words that the recognizer which is a total subset of the things you need to understand the  the text um yeah they 're pretty good so and  and it 's converting automatically from the XML to the chopping up the wave forms and so forth it 's not the case that the end of one utterance is in the next segment and things like that which we had more problems with in Switchboard so that 's good. And um let 's see there was one more thing I wanted to  to mention  I can't remember um Sorry can't remember. anyway it 's


No I think it 's really , I mean this way we least have a baseline we know that for instance the transcripts are very good so once you can get to the words that the recognizer which is a total subset of the things you need to understand the  the text um yeah they 're pretty good so and  and it 's converting automatically from the XML to the chopping up the wave forms and so forth it 's not the case that the end of one utterance is in the next segment and things like that which we had more problems with in Switchboard so that 's good. And um let 's see there was one more thing I wanted to  to mention  I can't remember um Sorry can't remember. anyway it 's

well it was , I mean I really didn't do this myself


well it was , I mean I really didn't do this myself


well it was , I mean I really didn't do this myself

so Andreas set up this recognizer and  by the way the recognizer all the files I 'm moving to SRI and running everything there so I brought back just these result files and people can look at them um so


well it was , I mean I really didn't do this myself

so Andreas set up this recognizer and  by the way the recognizer all the files I 'm moving to SRI and running everything there so I brought back just these result files and people can look at them um so

We  we talked about setting up the SRI recognizer here. That 's  you know if  if there are more machines um uh here plus people can  could run their own uh you know variants of  of  of the recognition  runs um certainly doable. Um.


so Andreas set up this recognizer and  by the way the recognizer all the files I 'm moving to SRI and running everything there so I brought back just these result files and people can look at them um so

We  we talked about setting up the SRI recognizer here. That 's  you know if  if there are more machines um uh here plus people can  could run their own uh you know variants of  of  of the recognition  runs um certainly doable. Um.

Yeah and  well certainly if the recognition as opposed to training , yeah.


We  we talked about setting up the SRI recognizer here. That 's  you know if  if there are more machines um uh here plus people can  could run their own uh you know variants of  of  of the recognition  runs um certainly doable. Um.

Yeah and  well certainly if the recognition as opposed to training , yeah.


Yeah and  well certainly if the recognition as opposed to training , yeah.

I need t Hmm. I need to ask one question.


I need t Hmm. I need to ask one question.


I need t Hmm. I need to ask one question.

Which is um so this issue  of the uh legalistic aspects of the pre - sent you know pre - adapted  Yeah , well , so what I mean is um the  uh the data that you take into SRI , first  first question , you 're maintaining it in  in a place that wouldn't be publicly readable that  that kind of stuff , right ?


Which is um so this issue  of the uh legalistic aspects of the pre - sent you know pre - adapted  Yeah , well , so what I mean is um the  uh the data that you take into SRI , first  first question , you 're maintaining it in  in a place that wouldn't be publicly readable that  that kind of stuff , right ?


Which is um so this issue  of the uh legalistic aspects of the pre - sent you know pre - adapted  Yeah , well , so what I mean is um the  uh the data that you take into SRI , first  first question , you 're maintaining it in  in a place that wouldn't be publicly readable that  that kind of stuff , right ?

By uh people uh who are not associated with this project.


By uh people uh who are not associated with this project.


By uh people uh who are not associated with this project.

It 's human subjects issues , I told you about that.


It 's human subjects issues , I told you about that.


It 's human subjects issues , I told you about that.

Well OK we have n no names. Although I sh um


Well OK we have n no names. Although I sh um


Well OK we have n no names. Although I sh um

it 's just the audio data itself , until people have a chance to edit it.


it 's just the audio data itself , until people have a chance to edit it.


it 's just the audio data itself , until people have a chance to edit it.

Uh so well I can  I can protect my directories through there.


Uh so well I can  I can protect my directories through there.

Right now they 're not  they 're in the speech group directories which  so I will


Right now they 're not  they 're in the speech group directories which  so I will


Right now they 're not  they 're in the speech group directories which  so I will

Yeah so we just have to go through this process of having people approve the transcriptions ,


Yeah so we just have to go through this process of having people approve the transcriptions ,


Yeah , we had to get them to approve em and then i cuz  cuz the other question I was gonna ask is if we 're having um you know it 's but this  this meeting that you have , no problem cuz I  I well I mean I  I speak for myself


Yeah , we had to get them to approve em and then i cuz  cuz the other question I was gonna ask is if we 're having um you know it 's but this  this meeting that you have , no problem cuz I  I well I mean I  I speak for myself

but  but I think that we didn't do anything that but well anyway so  uh I wouldn't be too concerned about it with respect to that although we should clear it with Eric and Dan of course but these results are based on data which haven't had the uh haven't had the chance to be reviewed by the subjects


but  but I think that we didn't do anything that but well anyway so  uh I wouldn't be too concerned about it with respect to that although we should clear it with Eric and Dan of course but these results are based on data which haven't had the uh haven't had the chance to be reviewed by the subjects

and I don't know how that stands , I mean if you  if you get fantastic results and it 's involving  data which  which later end up being lessened by , you know certain elisions , then I don't know but I wanted to raise that issue ,


and I don't know how that stands , I mean if you  if you get fantastic results and it 's involving  data which  which later end up being lessened by , you know certain elisions , then I don't know but I wanted to raise that issue ,


and I don't know how that stands , I mean if you  if you get fantastic results and it 's involving  data which  which later end up being lessened by , you know certain elisions , then I don't know but I wanted to raise that issue ,

I mean once we get all this streamlined it may be sh it  hopefully it will be fairly quick but we get the transcriptions , people approve them and so on it 's just that we 're


I mean once we get all this streamlined it may be sh it  hopefully it will be fairly quick but we get the transcriptions , people approve them and so on it 's just that we 're

Alright we need to work at a system for doing that approval so that we can send people the transcripts


Alright we need to work at a system for doing that approval so that we can send people the transcripts


Yeah actually the bleeps are also an issue I thought.


Yeah actually the bleeps are also an issue I thought.

It 's gonna be a rare thing that there 's a bleep for the most part.


Yeah actually the bleeps are also an issue I thought.

It 's gonna be a rare thing that there 's a bleep for the most part.

U uh actually I had a question about the downsampling , um I don't know who , I mean how this was done but is  is there  are there any um  issues with downsampling


It 's gonna be a rare thing that there 's a bleep for the most part.

U uh actually I had a question about the downsampling , um I don't know who , I mean how this was done but is  is there  are there any um  issues with downsampling

because I know that the recognizer um that we use h can do it sort of on the fly um so we wouldn't have to have it eh you know do it uh explicitly beforehand. And is there any um i are there other d sev uh is there more than one way to do the downsampling where one might be better than another ?