Okay. This is our conceptual design meeting. And   I'll just take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes. Um then each of you will have your presentation , um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control. And then we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up. Um   I'll go through the mee through the minutes first. Um , we just refreshed our our uh goal of making the finest remote control available.

Um we decided that , or we know that we need to use company colours , company logo. Um  and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly , um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons.

Um and that they often lose the  it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would  wanna make it simple. Um   And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um  And that it should look different than what's out there. Um  Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it , older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it , and that it was probably a gimmick , that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um   Then the User Interface Designer um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user , the complex better for an engineer. Um  Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote , something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote , because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source , um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um   How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip ,  which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um  I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um   Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand.  And with a , just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that , leave it at that. So  Marketing ?


Um we decided that , or we know that we need to use company colours , company logo. Um  and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly , um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons.

Um and that they often lose the  it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would  wanna make it simple. Um   And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um  And that it should look different than what's out there. Um  Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it , older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it , and that it was probably a gimmick , that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um   Then the User Interface Designer um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user , the complex better for an engineer. Um  Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote , something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote , because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source , um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um   How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip ,  which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um  I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um   Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand.  And with a , just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that , leave it at that. So  Marketing ?


Um and that they often lose the  it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would  wanna make it simple. Um   And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um  And that it should look different than what's out there. Um  Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it , older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it , and that it was probably a gimmick , that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um   Then the User Interface Designer um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user , the complex better for an engineer. Um  Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote , something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote , because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source , um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um   How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip ,  which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um  I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um   Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand.  And with a , just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that , leave it at that. So  Marketing ?


Thanks. Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary , and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the most important finding was that the fancy look-and-feel seems to be twice as important to the users as the current functional look-and-feel design , which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own , but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update , we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths , shoes and furniture.


Thanks. Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary , and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the most important finding was that the fancy look-and-feel seems to be twice as important to the users as the current functional look-and-feel design , which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own , but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update , we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths , shoes and furniture.

So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote , but we can try. Um and also , as opposed to last year , this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel.  Okay so from that um , as we've already said , we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that , even if it's very subtle , we need to kind of trick our consumers , so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and  Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative , we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces , which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface , discussing some of those , um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple , have limited buttons , which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for.  Um  we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know , I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable.


So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote , but we can try. Um and also , as opposed to last year , this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel.  Okay so from that um , as we've already said , we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that , even if it's very subtle , we need to kind of trick our consumers , so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and  Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative , we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces , which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface , discussing some of those , um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple , have limited buttons , which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for.  Um  we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know , I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is , I mean the stereotypically speaking , you kind of picture males with their remote controls , and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside.


Yeah. Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is , I mean the stereotypically speaking , you kind of picture males with their remote controls , and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside.

So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable , or I don't know , different options for female , male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that  might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that.


So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable , or I don't know , different options for female , male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that  might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that.

sorry , just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones ?


sorry , just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones ?


sorry , just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones ?

Those like , yeah , sort of spongy ones.


sorry , just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones ?

Those like , yeah , sort of spongy ones.

You have one with a flag , and one with a banana and one that's a spongy


Those like , yeah , sort of spongy ones.

You have one with a flag , and one with a banana and one that's a spongy

Yeah. So when you buy your remote you can buy


You have one with a flag , and one with a banana and one that's a spongy

Yeah. So when you buy your remote you can buy


Yeah. So when you buy your remote you can buy


What's it called ? Cust you   personalised , yeah.


What's it called ? Cust you   personalised , yeah.

We could leave that to the cover department.


We could leave that to the cover department.


We could leave that to the cover department.

We all know they've got nothing to do all day.


We all know they've got nothing to do all day.

Okay. Why can't I see the  crazy. Um yeah I  talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to , will use the , consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent , um , try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind that our own ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they , the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology , where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question , you program the answer , and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use , where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in , and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well , but there's various different remotes , once again with lots of different buttons on , making it more complicated.


We all know they've got nothing to do all day.

Okay. Why can't I see the  crazy. Um yeah I  talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to , will use the , consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent , um , try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind that our own ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they , the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology , where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question , you program the answer , and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use , where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in , and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well , but there's various different remotes , once again with lots of different buttons on , making it more complicated.

So , then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice , there is a voice recognition remote control , which can control mus multiple devices. I have a  there is a picture . You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples , controls four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , V_C_R_ , D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels , that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting , where there  has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod , which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there , and really is , and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a  possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this , which is a a a kid's remote , where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know  if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components , maybe it can have more components you know , different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be  need to be clear on your um devices , as to what , you know , things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down , which may suggest volume down , could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that , which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think , d carrying on from what I've already said , a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing , where if it was to have a speech recognition thing , you could maybe control that on the  do it  or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier , as the actual remote. Um I don't  it could be a graphical display , the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like  gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I  Oh yeah. Just .  Where are we ? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M  they've even got things like that.


We all know they've got nothing to do all day.

Okay. Why can't I see the  crazy. Um yeah I  talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to , will use the , consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent , um , try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind that our own ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they , the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology , where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question , you program the answer , and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use , where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in , and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well , but there's various different remotes , once again with lots of different buttons on , making it more complicated.

So , then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice , there is a voice recognition remote control , which can control mus multiple devices. I have a  there is a picture . You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples , controls four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , V_C_R_ , D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels , that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting , where there  has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod , which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there , and really is , and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a  possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this , which is a a a kid's remote , where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know  if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components , maybe it can have more components you know , different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be  need to be clear on your um devices , as to what , you know , things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down , which may suggest volume down , could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that , which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think , d carrying on from what I've already said , a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing , where if it was to have a speech recognition thing , you could maybe control that on the  do it  or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier , as the actual remote. Um I don't  it could be a graphical display , the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like  gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I  Oh yeah. Just .  Where are we ? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M  they've even got things like that.

Huge things. Which is just  for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah ?


Okay. Why can't I see the  crazy. Um yeah I  talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to , will use the , consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent , um , try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind that our own ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they , the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology , where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question , you program the answer , and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use , where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in , and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well , but there's various different remotes , once again with lots of different buttons on , making it more complicated.

So , then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice , there is a voice recognition remote control , which can control mus multiple devices. I have a  there is a picture . You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples , controls four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , V_C_R_ , D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels , that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting , where there  has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod , which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there , and really is , and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a  possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this , which is a a a kid's remote , where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know  if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components , maybe it can have more components you know , different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be  need to be clear on your um devices , as to what , you know , things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down , which may suggest volume down , could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that , which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think , d carrying on from what I've already said , a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing , where if it was to have a speech recognition thing , you could maybe control that on the  do it  or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier , as the actual remote. Um I don't  it could be a graphical display , the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like  gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I  Oh yeah. Just .  Where are we ? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M  they've even got things like that.

Huge things. Which is just  for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah ?

That's industrial design for cranes , stuff like that.


So , then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice , there is a voice recognition remote control , which can control mus multiple devices. I have a  there is a picture . You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples , controls four devices , T_V_ , cable , satellite , V_C_R_ , D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels , that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting , where there  has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod , which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there , and really is , and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a  possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this , which is a a a kid's remote , where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know  if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components , maybe it can have more components you know , different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be  need to be clear on your um devices , as to what , you know , things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down , which may suggest volume down , could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that , which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think , d carrying on from what I've already said , a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing , where if it was to have a speech recognition thing , you could maybe control that on the  do it  or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier , as the actual remote. Um I don't  it could be a graphical display , the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like  gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I  Oh yeah. Just .  Where are we ? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M  they've even got things like that.

Huge things. Which is just  for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah ?

That's industrial design for cranes , stuff like that.


Huge things. Which is just  for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah ?

That's industrial design for cranes , stuff like that.


That's industrial design for cranes , stuff like that.


Yeah. See.  things . . Why's my screen crazy ?


Yeah. See.  things . . Why's my screen crazy ?

Uh  Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior.


Yeah. See.  things . . Why's my screen crazy ?

Uh  Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior.

Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there , and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to load up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design , as you can see there , what we have is the board , main board of the remote control.  The underside , that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really  top left side you can see the chip , which is the , what we were talking about , this was is the device to recognise the signals the input , and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal , which later on is being , is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um  So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself.  Its job is to wait for you to press a key , then to translate that key press into infrared light signals , um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it , I don't know if you can see that properly , with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have , don't have cables , but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that


Yeah. See.  things . . Why's my screen crazy ?

Uh  Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior.

Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there , and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to load up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design , as you can see there , what we have is the board , main board of the remote control.  The underside , that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really  top left side you can see the chip , which is the , what we were talking about , this was is the device to recognise the signals the input , and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal , which later on is being , is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um  So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself.  Its job is to wait for you to press a key , then to translate that key press into infrared light signals , um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it , I don't know if you can see that properly , with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have , don't have cables , but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that

amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it.  Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side , which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version.  Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course , it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell , or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um  I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic , rubber , as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would that would serve that purpose.


Uh  Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior.

Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there , and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to load up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design , as you can see there , what we have is the board , main board of the remote control.  The underside , that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really  top left side you can see the chip , which is the , what we were talking about , this was is the device to recognise the signals the input , and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal , which later on is being , is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um  So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself.  Its job is to wait for you to press a key , then to translate that key press into infrared light signals , um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it , I don't know if you can see that properly , with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have , don't have cables , but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that

amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it.  Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side , which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version.  Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course , it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell , or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um  I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic , rubber , as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would that would serve that purpose.


Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there , and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to load up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design , as you can see there , what we have is the board , main board of the remote control.  The underside , that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really  top left side you can see the chip , which is the , what we were talking about , this was is the device to recognise the signals the input , and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal , which later on is being , is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um  So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself.  Its job is to wait for you to press a key , then to translate that key press into infrared light signals , um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light , and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it , I don't know if you can see that properly , with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have , don't have cables , but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that

amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it.  Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side , which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version.  Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course , it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell , or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um  I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic , rubber , as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would that would serve that purpose.

Um  we could also use wood , or titanium.


amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it.  Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side , which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version.  Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course , it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell , or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um  I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic , rubber , as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would that would serve that purpose.

Um  we could also use wood , or titanium.

What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium ?


Um  we could also use wood , or titanium.

What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium ?


Um  we could also use wood , or titanium.

What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium ?

I don't have an information on that. However our company  obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium , so I assume , I'm , I was given an okay to use it.


What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium ?

I don't have an information on that. However our company  obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium , so I assume , I'm , I was given an okay to use it.


I don't have an information on that. However our company  obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium , so I assume , I'm , I was given an okay to use it.

I'm aware of that , but I was given an okay.


I don't have an information on that. However our company  obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium , so I assume , I'm , I was given an okay to use it.

I'm aware of that , but I was given an okay.

But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic , rubber , wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source , um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is , or what I was offered , or what we could use , is a basic bateer battery. Right ? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough.


I'm aware of that , but I was given an okay.

But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic , rubber , wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source , um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is , or what I was offered , or what we could use , is a basic bateer battery. Right ? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough.

Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is out of the question really.


But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic , rubber , wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source , um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is , or what I was offered , or what we could use , is a basic bateer battery. Right ? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough.

Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is out of the question really.

You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right ? Um solar cell is interesting.  May fail though , every here and there.


Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is out of the question really.

You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right ? Um solar cell is interesting.  May fail though , every here and there.

Would you have to leave it by the window ?


You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right ? Um solar cell is interesting.  May fail though , every here and there.

Would you have to leave it by the window ?


Would you have to leave it by the window ?

. Or you know you lose it , it lies behind the couch for a week


. Or you know you lose it , it lies behind the couch for a week


. Or you know you lose it , it lies behind the couch for a week

Works well in Arizona but in Edinburgh not so


Works well in Arizona but in Edinburgh not so


Um the kinetic energy thing um might work , um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work.


Um the kinetic energy thing um might work , um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work.

So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um  However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um  However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however  when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control , then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um  There's also restrictions  to , when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented , um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to , when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip , but that's not up to me to decide really.  So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip , so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells , I assume right ? Or is anybody still


So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um  However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um  However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however  when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control , then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um  There's also restrictions  to , when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented , um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to , when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip , but that's not up to me to decide really.  So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip , so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells , I assume right ? Or is anybody still

No I think I think batteries are probably the way to go.


No I think I think batteries are probably the way to go.


Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um  Um  With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions.


Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um  Um  With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions.

Would the sort of  spongy and the the plasticky thing  y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a  it is plastic but then they have sort of a a s a cover on it which is just sort of soft and stuff.


Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um  Um  With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions.

Would the sort of  spongy and the the plasticky thing  y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a  it is plastic but then they have sort of a a s a cover on it which is just sort of soft and stuff.

So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know  in plastic. But then where do people hold it ?


Would the sort of  spongy and the the plasticky thing  y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a  it is plastic but then they have sort of a a s a cover on it which is just sort of soft and stuff.

So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know  in plastic. But then where do people hold it ?


So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know  in plastic. But then where do people hold it ?


So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know  in plastic. But then where do people hold it ?

The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts , so they can remove it.


The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts , so they can remove it.

So you  as the the possibility of having a a graphical display on it , like a screen ? Like the iPod ?


The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts , so they can remove it.

So you  as the the possibility of having a a graphical display on it , like a screen ? Like the iPod ?

You can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used.


So you  as the the possibility of having a a graphical display on it , like a screen ? Like the iPod ?

You can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used.

Alright ? So plastic yes , titanium yes , but this will of course influence the form. With plastic , as I understand it , you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular , uh add an L_C_D_ screen , and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium. Or wood even.


You can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used.

Alright ? So plastic yes , titanium yes , but this will of course influence the form. With plastic , as I understand it , you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular , uh add an L_C_D_ screen , and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium. Or wood even.


Alright ? So plastic yes , titanium yes , but this will of course influence the form. With plastic , as I understand it , you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular , uh add an L_C_D_ screen , and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium. Or wood even.

Um if you wanna make it a particular shape , use plastic. Add an L_C_D_ screen , add a scroll wheel , that'll be fine.


Um if you wanna make it a particular shape , use plastic. Add an L_C_D_ screen , add a scroll wheel , that'll be fine.

Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much originality really.


Um if you wanna make it a particular shape , use plastic. Add an L_C_D_ screen , add a scroll wheel , that'll be fine.

Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much originality really.

So the ru wait the rubbery  we can shape it however we want ? Or the rubbery we cannot ?


Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much originality really.

So the ru wait the rubbery  we can shape it however we want ? Or the rubbery we cannot ?

With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted it ,


So the ru wait the rubbery  we can shape it however we want ? Or the rubbery we cannot ?

With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted it ,

but we cannot add scroll wheels , and we cannot add an L_C_D_ screen.


With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted it ,

but we cannot add scroll wheels , and we cannot add an L_C_D_ screen.


but we cannot add scroll wheels , and we cannot add an L_C_D_ screen.


Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen , and then j just sort of that initial shape we had , just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's  thing if we did it yellow.


Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen , and then j just sort of that initial shape we had , just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's  thing if we did it yellow.

And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any  they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing.


Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen , and then j just sort of that initial shape we had , just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's  thing if we did it yellow.

And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any  they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing.

Is that an option , a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at certain spots ?


And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any  they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing.

Is that an option , a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at certain spots ?

S Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect the functional side of it all.


Is that an option , a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at certain spots ?

S Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect the functional side of it all.

Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah. So   The fruit design um  How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control ? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape obviously ,


S Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect the functional side of it all.

Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah. So   The fruit design um  How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control ? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape obviously ,


Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah. So   The fruit design um  How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control ? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape obviously ,

but uh give it like the surface of an orange , banana , whatever. You name it.


but uh give it like the surface of an orange , banana , whatever. You name it.


You could just sell it in different colours as well I suppose. In different ye yellows.


Well we we're supposed to stick to the company colours though ,


is what we'd go for , when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But  mm.


is what we'd go for , when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But  mm.

I would say , if I were to make a decision , I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower lower end of the spectrum of of importance.


I would say , if I were to make a decision , I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower lower end of the spectrum of of importance.

I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous ,


I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous ,


I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous ,

Well we have it banana-shaped already , kind of.


Well we have it banana-shaped already , kind of.


Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that fruit-minded remote buyer.


Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that fruit-minded remote buyer.

Yeah.   and if it if it was done yellow , which is a company colour.


Yeah.   and if it if it was done yellow , which is a company colour.


Well so why not add a couple of grey stripes and make it look like a banana ?


Well so why not add a couple of grey stripes and make it look like a banana ?

We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person could turn it over.


We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person could turn it over.

On the the gr the rubbery grips could be grey.


We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person could turn it over.

On the the gr the rubbery grips could be grey.

It would look like a banana just sitting on their table.


On the the gr the rubbery grips could be grey.

It would look like a banana just sitting on their table.


It would look like a banana just sitting on their table.


It could  and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl , on the coffee table ,


It could  and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl , on the coffee table ,

and then people would always know where it was.


It could  and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl , on the coffee table ,

and then people would always know where it was.

Maybe the holder , if we were to have a holder , it could be shaped like a fruit.


and then people would always know where it was.

Maybe the holder , if we were to have a holder , it could be shaped like a fruit.


Maybe the holder , if we were to have a holder , it could be shaped like a fruit.


it could be an ape or a fruit bowl. we could have a variety of options here.


That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials , what the interior has to look like , and what the limitations to certain materials are on


That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials , what the interior has to look like , and what the limitations to certain materials are on

Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. If I could.


Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. If I could.


Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. If I could.

Like I said we have to make a decision on a couple of these items here. Um  ow. Ow.


Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. If I could.

Like I said we have to make a decision on a couple of these items here. Um  ow. Ow.

So is the two piece idea out ? Or have we not decided ?


Like I said we have to make a decision on a couple of these items here. Um  ow. Ow.

So is the two piece idea out ? Or have we not decided ?

Well we sort of   rid of that because  gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary.


So is the two piece idea out ? Or have we not decided ?

Well we sort of   rid of that because  gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary.

Well we can still design a two-piece uh remote um without having a base , having one of them be a base station ,


Well we sort of   rid of that because  gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary.

Well we can still design a two-piece uh remote um without having a base , having one of them be a base station ,


Well we can still design a two-piece uh remote um without having a base , having one of them be a base station ,

but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions , or you take out the smaller piece.


but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions , or you take out the smaller piece.


but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions , or you take out the smaller piece.

We can still do that. However  of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much.


We can still do that. However  of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much.


We can still do that. However  of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much.

So um which then , as I understand it , would probably limit the , limit again the the the use of certain materials , because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them , or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on. You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button


So um which then , as I understand it , would probably limit the , limit again the the the use of certain materials , because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them , or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on. You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button


Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source , um the chip-on-print , and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape , what , what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um   Energy source I think we've , I think we've decided batteries , although not exciting , are probably our best bet.


Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source , um the chip-on-print , and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape , what , what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um   Energy source I think we've , I think we've decided batteries , although not exciting , are probably our best bet.

Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print , as I said , the the more advanced features you want , um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version , the chip-on-print is gonna be


Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print , as I said , the the more advanced features you want , um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version , the chip-on-print is gonna be


So  Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case , or the the plastic case , um then the chip-on-print is still kind of , we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex. But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us ?


So  Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case , or the the plastic case , um then the chip-on-print is still kind of , we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex. But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us ?

Well what about what you said , like putting the


Well what about what you said , like putting the


Well what about what you said , like putting the

finger grips just on top of the plastic ?


finger grips just on top of the plastic ?


finger grips just on top of the plastic ?

Okay. So we would , we would have the L_C_D_ screen ?


finger grips just on top of the plastic ?

Okay. So we would , we would have the L_C_D_ screen ?

as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls , yes.


Okay. So we would , we would have the L_C_D_ screen ?

as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls , yes.

'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic , with  Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe.


as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls , yes.

'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic , with  Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe.


'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic , with  Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe.


So then for the scroll , are we going for the iPod type ?


So then for the scroll , are we going for the iPod type ?

Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right ?


Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right ?


Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right ?

'Kay. So  I guess that , is that , is that about it ? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this ?


'Kay. So  I guess that , is that , is that about it ? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this ?

Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um   Here's what's gonna be going on. Um  Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um  Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design.


Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um   Here's what's gonna be going on. Um  Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um  Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design.

Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh


Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um   Here's what's gonna be going on. Um  Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um  Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design.

Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh

maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface.


Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh

maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface.

So that  basically  just be working on the prototype ,  uh we'll accomplish your other two actions.


maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface.

So that  basically  just be working on the prototype ,  uh we'll accomplish your other two actions.


Are you sure I got it all  head's kinda small.


Guess I should probably try to sit up straight.


I guess it's gonna be hard to drink coffee.


Okay ?  Right , so I'm just gonna start this PowerPoint real quick. Yeah , PowerPoint.


Yeah I kinda like this I'm kinda getting into it. Right. Um. So just to kick off the meeting basically um so we're working now for a real reaction , this is uh so it  right. Just got an agenda to set out what we're gonna try to accomplish in this particular first meeting. Um  We're gonna just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all get acquainted with one another um then we're gonna start  talk a little bit about tool training. Essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we haven't tried out yet , the whiteboard.  Um  we've got a general plan for the project how we're gonna go about accomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion close up. Um I  guess you know game or something um  in real life um so yeah basically I want to  I'm just gonna  you got  of course you can discuss that , I'm thinking about um  uh proposing that since we've got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just don't ask , don't tell.  Um so um if you say something about marketing , right , sorted , um  y is


obvi if if you guys  if if at the same time if you  like logically if something doesn't  like if I'm like we're gonna sell a remote control that's the size of this paper book you know um you say like well that doesn't seem like such a good idea because of X_ obviously go with it. I mean we'll discuss it but I'm not gonna ask do you know that or uh yeah it seems like


so , 'cause we're  what we're sort of role playing is y g yeah you're gonna tap into your own knowledge as well  um. And that's the same for your when we do introductions I mean um and you talk about your background you know have fun , you know maybe you went to um  uh you know maybe i you're like in Maine you went to U_C_S_B_ but you wanna say you went to Harvard or something like that , why not , you know


so , 'cause we're  what we're sort of role playing is y g yeah you're gonna tap into your own knowledge as well  um. And that's the same for your when we do introductions I mean um and you talk about your background you know have fun , you know maybe you went to um  uh you know maybe i you're like in Maine you went to U_C_S_B_ but you wanna say you went to Harvard or something like that , why not , you know

you can  this is you know I guess we can have a little bit of fun with it. So are you guys okay with that does that seem logical ?


you can  this is you know I guess we can have a little bit of fun with it. So are you guys okay with that does that seem logical ?


Sweet. Cool. So I guess that that  we're totally  we're making a remote control which is thrilling


Sweet. Cool. So I guess that that  we're totally  we're making a remote control which is thrilling

um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the  in real life I dunno if you guys uh  checked the um  uh the corporate website. Um we've got to make something as fashionable as possible , that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice or you know if you go to Debenham's or something. So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but we wanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way.  Um way we're gonna go about doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics. And that's where I'm gonna need you guys the User Interface Designers and the um  um the other designer that I can't remember ,


Sweet. Cool. So I guess that that  we're totally  we're making a remote control which is thrilling

um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the  in real life I dunno if you guys uh  checked the um  uh the corporate website. Um we've got to make something as fashionable as possible , that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice or you know if you go to Debenham's or something. So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but we wanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way.  Um way we're gonna go about doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics. And that's where I'm gonna need you guys the User Interface Designers and the um  um the other designer that I can't remember ,

the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um  the Industrial Designer


um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the  in real life I dunno if you guys uh  checked the um  uh the corporate website. Um we've got to make something as fashionable as possible , that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice or you know if you go to Debenham's or something. So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but we wanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way.  Um way we're gonna go about doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics. And that's where I'm gonna need you guys the User Interface Designers and the um  um the other designer that I can't remember ,

the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um  the Industrial Designer


the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um  the Industrial Designer


to guide me and guide us on this project 'cause you're gonna be  you're g you guys are the bottom you know you're like no you can't do that you can't have you know X_ and Y_ um at the same time. And then um we'll work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good , you know like um  I I think you guys probably got the same emails I did but the idea of um , yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it's also better if it's not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand , or something like that. Um and so we'll work up from there and um then we'll meet on and talk about it and then finally we'll incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell me  tell us what's possible and then you tell us what we can um hope for and what way to go take the the the take the basics and make it nicer and then ov obviously uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ you know you you can keep on the you know sort of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximising what is possible um to try t of sync it all up. So that's the detailed design. So it's a three stage kind of thing. Um right so for now just for th the white board um basically uh just to get used to it , I haven't tried it yet either um I'm just gonna start and um mm carry like five remotes around um and just write down  I'm just gonna write down one of the names of my um desert discs you know if you  if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring five C_D_s along with you name one of them that you could , not all five , if you wanna write all five go for it but name one of them that you could um. Oh , we skipped introductions. Nice. I'm a excellent Project Manager. Um.


to guide me and guide us on this project 'cause you're gonna be  you're g you guys are the bottom you know you're like no you can't do that you can't have you know X_ and Y_ um at the same time. And then um we'll work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good , you know like um  I I think you guys probably got the same emails I did but the idea of um , yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it's also better if it's not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand , or something like that. Um and so we'll work up from there and um then we'll meet on and talk about it and then finally we'll incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell me  tell us what's possible and then you tell us what we can um hope for and what way to go take the the the take the basics and make it nicer and then ov obviously uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ you know you you can keep on the you know sort of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximising what is possible um to try t of sync it all up. So that's the detailed design. So it's a three stage kind of thing. Um right so for now just for th the white board um basically uh just to get used to it , I haven't tried it yet either um I'm just gonna start and um mm carry like five remotes around um and just write down  I'm just gonna write down one of the names of my um desert discs you know if you  if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring five C_D_s along with you name one of them that you could , not all five , if you wanna write all five go for it but name one of them that you could um. Oh , we skipped introductions. Nice. I'm a excellent Project Manager. Um.

um I went to uni at uh U_C_ Santa Barbara and I'm here working on a P_H_D_ in psychology. Um yeah. So


to guide me and guide us on this project 'cause you're gonna be  you're g you guys are the bottom you know you're like no you can't do that you can't have you know X_ and Y_ um at the same time. And then um we'll work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good , you know like um  I I think you guys probably got the same emails I did but the idea of um , yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it's also better if it's not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand , or something like that. Um and so we'll work up from there and um then we'll meet on and talk about it and then finally we'll incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell me  tell us what's possible and then you tell us what we can um hope for and what way to go take the the the take the basics and make it nicer and then ov obviously uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ you know you you can keep on the you know sort of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximising what is possible um to try t of sync it all up. So that's the detailed design. So it's a three stage kind of thing. Um right so for now just for th the white board um basically uh just to get used to it , I haven't tried it yet either um I'm just gonna start and um mm carry like five remotes around um and just write down  I'm just gonna write down one of the names of my um desert discs you know if you  if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring five C_D_s along with you name one of them that you could , not all five , if you wanna write all five go for it but name one of them that you could um. Oh , we skipped introductions. Nice. I'm a excellent Project Manager. Um.

um I went to uni at uh U_C_ Santa Barbara and I'm here working on a P_H_D_ in psychology. Um yeah. So

I'm Sarah , I went to Michigan , and I'm here doing cultural studies and I'm the Marketing Manager or something. Marketing ,


um I went to uni at uh U_C_ Santa Barbara and I'm here working on a P_H_D_ in psychology. Um yeah. So

I'm Sarah , I went to Michigan , and I'm here doing cultural studies and I'm the Marketing Manager or something. Marketing ,


I'm Sarah , I went to Michigan , and I'm here doing cultural studies and I'm the Marketing Manager or something. Marketing ,


I'm Ron. I uh once upon a time studied in Victoria and I am the User Interface Designer.


I'm Ron. I uh once upon a time studied in Victoria and I am the User Interface Designer.

I'm Nathan , I'm from California , and I'm here doing a Masters degree in social anthropology.


I'm Nathan , I'm from California , and I'm here doing a Masters degree in social anthropology.

Oh brilliant. Cool. My little brother goes there.


Oh brilliant. Cool. My little brother goes there.


So do we have to wait for you to write it down or are you gonna tell us ?


So do we have to wait for you to write it down or are you gonna tell us ?

no no yeah I'm just gonna write a couple of 'em down. See I'm a big music fan I don't know if you guys are , I'm assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent


no no yeah I'm just gonna write a couple of 'em down. See I'm a big music fan I don't know if you guys are , I'm assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent


no no yeah I'm just gonna write a couple of 'em down. See I'm a big music fan I don't know if you guys are , I'm assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent

but there's some other options , if you're a T_V_ slut


but there's some other options , if you're a T_V_ slut

like I am like Smallville terrible television show


like I am like Smallville terrible television show


I went to high school with Tom Willing actually.


Yeah.  Very much so. Hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless.


Yeah.  Very much so. Hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless.

He looks really tall , like he's gotta be like six six.


Yeah.  Very much so. Hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless.

He looks really tall , like he's gotta be like six six.

Yeah. Um okay so  I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley ?


He looks really tall , like he's gotta be like six six.

Yeah. Um okay so  I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley ?


Yeah. Um okay so  I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley ?


Yeah. Um okay so  I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley ?

Um that's cool 'cause like not very many people have. Um  and um oh well I might as well throw a British person in there um you can't go wrong with Radiohead.


Um that's cool 'cause like not very many people have. Um  and um oh well I might as well throw a British person in there um you can't go wrong with Radiohead.


Um that's cool 'cause like not very many people have. Um  and um oh well I might as well throw a British person in there um you can't go wrong with Radiohead.

Okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises I think. It's kinda weird. Anyway


Okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises I think. It's kinda weird. Anyway


Okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises I think. It's kinda weird. Anyway

yeah. Yeah , you're like press and it's .


yeah. Yeah , you're like press and it's .


yeah. Yeah , you're like press and it's .

whoever wants to get up next , you can write down some telly that you watch or whatever you want.


whoever wants to get up next , you can write down some telly that you watch or whatever you want.


Okay. Don't wanna lose all my mikes , plugged in here. Okay. This is basically just pen practice huh ?


Okay. Don't wanna lose all my mikes , plugged in here. Okay. This is basically just pen practice huh ?

Okay. Oh you're much taller than me so I'm gonna write down here. Um. Right now I'm listening to a lot of somebody nobody's ever heard of , Chris Bathgate ,


Okay. Oh you're much taller than me so I'm gonna write down here. Um. Right now I'm listening to a lot of somebody nobody's ever heard of , Chris Bathgate ,


and uh uh what else did I bring with me ? Probably classical , to totally geek it out ,


but we don't need to write that one down.


Alright. Think I'm just gonna put down one uh one C_D_. Anybody ?


they like fifteen members from Brooklyn. Um and I'm hoping to go to the concert in Belgium , in Brussels in April first.


they like fifteen members from Brooklyn. Um and I'm hoping to go to the concert in Belgium , in Brussels in April first.

Yeah. It's supposed to be in Brussels anyways.


Yeah. It's supposed to be in Brussels anyways.


Yeah. It's supposed to be in Brussels anyways.

Oh. I didn't even read those. Oops. I shouldn't admit that.


Oh. I didn't even read those. Oops. I shouldn't admit that.

That's what a PowerPoint presentation is for. It's they're designed specifically to ignore. I  it's  th brilliant.


That's what a PowerPoint presentation is for. It's they're designed specifically to ignore. I  it's  th brilliant.

It's the five by five , I can't read that much.


It's the five by five , I can't read that much.


It's so brilliant.  I've seen more urine in this city than ever before ,


and I'm um happy to say that there's the  there's the same quantity approximately.


I have to be here for three years so I might as well get the terminology right.


I have to be here for three years so I might as well get the terminology right.

Yeah fair enough. I've already got more than I can keep track of. And I'm gonna go home next week and everyone's gonna be like oh my God you're turning into one of those people ,


I have to be here for three years so I might as well get the terminology right.

Yeah fair enough. I've already got more than I can keep track of. And I'm gonna go home next week and everyone's gonna be like oh my God you're turning into one of those people ,

They'll be like , say something British ,


Yeah fair enough. I've already got more than I can keep track of. And I'm gonna go home next week and everyone's gonna be like oh my God you're turning into one of those people ,

They'll be like , say something British ,


They'll be like , say something British ,


Wait until I tell them I'm not coming back.


Or at least get a work visa for a while and then decide.


Yeah , that's the music I grew up listening to.


Oh , now I can think of so many other ones.


Where are you from in California by the way ?


Yeah I'm from San Diego as well. Yeah oh man.


Yeah I'm from San Diego as well. Yeah oh man.

But really uh I last lived in San Francisco , I haven't lived in Cali well I haven't lived in southern California since I was eighteen.


Yeah I'm from San Diego as well. Yeah oh man.

But really uh I last lived in San Francisco , I haven't lived in Cali well I haven't lived in southern California since I was eighteen.

Going to s like North Carol I'm sorry you you just can't get a better burrito than what's available in the s in San Diego.


But really uh I last lived in San Francisco , I haven't lived in Cali well I haven't lived in southern California since I was eighteen.

Going to s like North Carol I'm sorry you you just can't get a better burrito than what's available in the s in San Diego.

It's different. 'Cause in San Diego th the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern California they steam them.


Going to s like North Carol I'm sorry you you just can't get a better burrito than what's available in the s in San Diego.

It's different. 'Cause in San Diego th the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern California they steam them.


It's different. 'Cause in San Diego th the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern California they steam them.

Well it's it's  i there's other things too there's  you just can't place it


Well it's it's  i there's other things too there's  you just can't place it


Well it's it's  i there's other things too there's  you just can't place it

like I  when I went to school in the U_  in Santa Barbara which is central California the Mexican food is okay , it's just not good like and yeah it's like two bucks ,


like I  when I went to school in the U_  in Santa Barbara which is central California the Mexican food is okay , it's just not good like and yeah it's like two bucks ,

like literally two bucks for this massive  I miss


like literally two bucks for this massive  I miss


Um just literally just metropolitan San Diego , I live like five minutes from the zoo. So


Um just literally just metropolitan San Diego , I live like five minutes from the zoo. So

North Park actually if you want to get real specific.


Um just literally just metropolitan San Diego , I live like five minutes from the zoo. So

North Park actually if you want to get real specific.

Yeah , my grandparents lived on um thirty second.


North Park actually if you want to get real specific.

Yeah , my grandparents lived on um thirty second.


North Park actually if you want to get real specific.

Yeah , my grandparents lived on um thirty second.

Close t uh do you know where Clare de Lune coffee shop is ,


Yeah , my grandparents lived on um thirty second.

Close t uh do you know where Clare de Lune coffee shop is ,


Close t uh do you know where Clare de Lune coffee shop is ,


Yeah it's actually like literally half a mile from my house.


Yeah it's actually like literally half a mile from my house.

Yeah , pretty cool. Small world as we were discussing before.


Yeah , pretty cool. Small world as we were discussing before.

Especially when we're all from the same general region. Right so okay , success on the whiteboard. You can harness the awesome power


Especially when we're all from the same general region. Right so okay , success on the whiteboard. You can harness the awesome power

a little bit introductions we talked about some of our C_D_s


a little bit introductions we talked about some of our C_D_s

and things we like about the city you know , I think we'll


and things we like about the city you know , I think we'll

moving on to not fun stuff  uh project finance.


and things we like about the city you know , I think we'll

moving on to not fun stuff  uh project finance.

Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um.  This is what the finance department has told me , the C_F_O_ but I don't know , I'm not sold on this , it's pretty dear , I mean twenty f that's like you know forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for me. Um so


moving on to not fun stuff  uh project finance.

Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um.  This is what the finance department has told me , the C_F_O_ but I don't know , I'm not sold on this , it's pretty dear , I mean twenty f that's like you know forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for me. Um so


moving on to not fun stuff  uh project finance.

Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um.  This is what the finance department has told me , the C_F_O_ but I don't know , I'm not sold on this , it's pretty dear , I mean twenty f that's like you know forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for me. Um so

what we can maybe work on that a later but we're gonna make a lot on it , the profit aims to make fifty million Euros on it. Eur internationally. So  um one of the things I I was gonna mention to you um you guys the designers is that um it m we probably need a rever it needs to be a universal remote control probably. Um so


Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um.  This is what the finance department has told me , the C_F_O_ but I don't know , I'm not sold on this , it's pretty dear , I mean twenty f that's like you know forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for me. Um so

what we can maybe work on that a later but we're gonna make a lot on it , the profit aims to make fifty million Euros on it. Eur internationally. So  um one of the things I I was gonna mention to you um you guys the designers is that um it m we probably need a rever it needs to be a universal remote control probably. Um so


what we can maybe work on that a later but we're gonna make a lot on it , the profit aims to make fifty million Euros on it. Eur internationally. So  um one of the things I I was gonna mention to you um you guys the designers is that um it m we probably need a rever it needs to be a universal remote control probably. Um so

something that could do N_T_S_C_ as well as PAL as well as various other formats like if it's gonna control D_V_D_s


something that could do N_T_S_C_ as well as PAL as well as various other formats like if it's gonna control D_V_D_s


I'll leave that to you guys but that's something that i i it is gonna be an international sold thing.  Um but we wanna try to make it for twelve fifty. So we wanna try to make a hundred percent profit on it if we can.  Um s right so um just to close up , I'm not sure how much time I've used mm next time right Project Manager , sorted. Um.  Is uh we'll meet in another half an hour or so um  and I'd like the um Industrial Designer to get ge think about what needs to be done , like what the basic function of it. Um  U_I_D_ well yeah you right g your assignments are up there and you'll also get s assignments from  in your email as well more spec specifics on what do do. Um mm basic and um so I need you to tell us what um  we  what the user's gonna want.


I'll leave that to you guys but that's something that i i it is gonna be an international sold thing.  Um but we wanna try to make it for twelve fifty. So we wanna try to make a hundred percent profit on it if we can.  Um s right so um just to close up , I'm not sure how much time I've used mm next time right Project Manager , sorted. Um.  Is uh we'll meet in another half an hour or so um  and I'd like the um Industrial Designer to get ge think about what needs to be done , like what the basic function of it. Um  U_I_D_ well yeah you right g your assignments are up there and you'll also get s assignments from  in your email as well more spec specifics on what do do. Um mm basic and um so I need you to tell us what um  we  what the user's gonna want.

So actually in a way you guys c maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user's gonna want and what the user can have , you know like uh so


So actually in a way you guys c maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user's gonna want and what the user can have , you know like uh so

yeah well it is  and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions , before we get started ?


So actually in a way you guys c maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user's gonna want and what the user can have , you know like uh so

yeah well it is  and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions , before we get started ?

I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control , we can't kind of build it into other uh products.


yeah well it is  and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions , before we get started ?

I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control , we can't kind of build it into other uh products.


yeah well it is  and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions , before we get started ?

I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control , we can't kind of build it into other uh products.

For instance like a mobile phone or something like that.


I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control , we can't kind of build it into other uh products.

For instance like a mobile phone or something like that.


For instance like a mobile phone or something like that.


For instance like a mobile phone or something like that.

I don't think there's any rules about it yet. So


I don't think there's any rules about it yet. So

Maybe our personal coach will have something to say about that.


I don't think there's any rules about it yet. So

Maybe our personal coach will have something to say about that.

Or or you know can we produ can we sell a remote control phone for twenty five pounds or less ?


Maybe our personal coach will have something to say about that.

Or or you know can we produ can we sell a remote control phone for twenty five pounds or less ?


Or or you know can we produ can we sell a remote control phone for twenty five pounds or less ?


I'm I'm certainly op it seems like yeah it it seems like it's certainly do-able


I'm I'm certainly op it seems like yeah it it seems like it's certainly do-able

isn't it. I mean um or if we can't have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of  useful function.


isn't it. I mean um or if we can't have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of  useful function.


no , good idea , good idea. We'll see what  see what


no , good idea , good idea. We'll see what  see what

Maybe a remote with changeable faces , like the faces that you can buy for phones.


Maybe a remote with changeable faces , like the faces that you can buy for phones.