Uh do you have to write down why  uh that doesn't matter , just  it's to get used to the whiteboard , but it's okay.


Yeah , not too far to the to the t pen top.


Yeah , not too far to the to the t pen top.

Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back , so that  no , to the  yeah.


Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back , so that  no , to the  yeah.


Uh we d only have twenty five minutes , so .


Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have


Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have

I have it. I just draw too quick I think. Okay , that's it. More.


I have it. I just draw too quick I think. Okay , that's it. More.


I thought these pens would be just um  uh you write it down and you download it to Word , you already did it or no ? No , not yet , okay.


it  but you actually got to write on the paper.


it  but you actually got to write on the paper.

Yeah , I know , but I d I I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in Word ,


Yeah , I know , but I d I I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in Word ,


it's not that cool as I th thought it would be.


it's not that cool as I th thought it would be.

Y you can you can't edit in the  edit it in Word.


Y you can you can't edit in the  edit it in Word.


I don't know , what time did we start this meeting , I'm not sure.


Yeah , thank you. Now we just have to save everything , so.


Okay , so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros. Okay ,


Okay , so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros. Okay ,

that's . And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros , so we have to uh use a big market in Europe. The production cost are about half the price of selling price ,


that's . And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros , so we have to uh use a big market in Europe. The production cost are about half the price of selling price ,


So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million , I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have  a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the  and everything , so just have a look how it  we think about remote controls.


So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million , I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have  a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the  and everything , so just have a look how it  we think about remote controls.

Yeah , my first question was does it have to be a  a universal remote control ?


So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million , I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have  a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the  and everything , so just have a look how it  we think about remote controls.

Yeah , my first question was does it have to be a  a universal remote control ?

Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television , we sell it uh apart.


Yeah , my first question was does it have to be a  a universal remote control ?

Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television , we sell it uh apart.


Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television , we sell it uh apart.


I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros , so  not sure , but


I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros , so  not sure , but

Yeah , I know uh you can buy a re a universal uh control for uh only twenty uh Euros


I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros , so  not sure , but

Yeah , I know uh you can buy a re a universal uh control for uh only twenty uh Euros

Okay , so we we just say we just say that's universal remote control. Okay , perfect.


Yeah , I know uh you can buy a re a universal uh control for uh only twenty uh Euros

Okay , so we we just say we just say that's universal remote control. Okay , perfect.


Okay , so we we just say we just say that's universal remote control. Okay , perfect.

And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player


And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player


And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player

just  so a lot of buttons  on the remote control.


just  so a lot of buttons  on the remote control.


what what what's a remote control , it's just a black thing with some buttons on it , it's not  nothing very special , but um


what what what's a remote control , it's just a black thing with some buttons on it , it's not  nothing very special , but um

So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability or user


So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability or user


So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability or user

Well I th I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television ,   we don't have uh the same television uh all the time , so uh that's no matter.  Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear , because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it , so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control , so you can uh uh uh act uh  use it from uh everywhere in your room , the the infrared uh thing must be from very good quality.


Well I th I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television ,   we don't have uh the same television uh all the time , so uh that's no matter.  Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear , because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it , so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control , so you can uh uh uh act uh  use it from uh everywhere in your room , the the infrared uh thing must be from very good quality.


but I don't think we can make it too small , 'cause it has to have a lot of functions , so.


but I don't think we can make it too small , 'cause it has to have a lot of functions , so.

We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.


but I don't think we can make it too small , 'cause it has to have a lot of functions , so.

We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.

Just big enough for the buttons we have , that's that's it.


We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.

Just big enough for the buttons we have , that's that's it.

Yeah. Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold it opem.


Just big enough for the buttons we have , that's that's it.

Yeah. Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold it opem.

Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer ,


Yeah. Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold it opem.

Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer ,


Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer ,


Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer ,

But you you you you think about uh uh one you can fold open.


But you you you you think about uh uh one you can fold open.


But you you you you think about uh uh one you can fold open.

where you can see uh more options. I think


where you can see uh more options. I think

yeah , that's cool. Maybe for the D_V_D_ pla player or something ,


yeah , that's cool. Maybe for the D_V_D_ pla player or something ,


Yeah , something uh on top , just dren general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often.


O or you could th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control.


Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control ?


Yeah , or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small.


Yeah , or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small.

Okay. But it's not t t t too expensive to put a touchscreen on it.


Okay. But it's not t t t too expensive to put a touchscreen on it.


Yeah , I think it's much uh  too expensive.


Yeah , I think it's much uh  too expensive.

Yeah but it's not reachable I think , touch screen.


Yeah , I think it's much uh  too expensive.

Yeah but it's not reachable I think , touch screen.

And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control ,


Yeah but it's not reachable I think , touch screen.

And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control ,


Yeah but it's not reachable I think , touch screen.

And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control ,

because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and it get often uh broken.


And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control ,

because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and it get often uh broken.

Yeah. So. And if you have a touch screen in it , it's definitely too too fragile uh fragile.


because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and it get often uh broken.

Yeah. So. And if you have a touch screen in it , it's definitely too too fragile uh fragile.


because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and it get often uh broken.

Yeah. So. And if you have a touch screen in it , it's definitely too too fragile uh fragile.

Yeah and a lots uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh kids uh


Yeah. So. And if you have a touch screen in it , it's definitely too too fragile uh fragile.

Yeah and a lots uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh kids uh

No. You can put games on your remote control. Whatever.


Yeah and a lots uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh kids uh

No. You can put games on your remote control. Whatever.


No. You can put games on your remote control. Whatever.


Uh should you put it in a recharger or a  just


Uh should you put it in a recharger or a  just

just to put it on your television and just s recharge ,


just to put it on your television and just s recharge ,


Maybe that's a good idea , but yeah , we have to look at the price now I think.


Maybe that's a good idea , but yeah , we have to look at the price now I think.

Yeah , how m how mu how how expensive uh is a normal recharger ?


Yeah , how m how mu how how expensive uh is a normal recharger ?

Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger ?


Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger ?


Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger ?

Yeah , if you buy it uh separately from your phone it's probably expensive ,


Yeah , if you buy it uh separately from your phone it's probably expensive ,

but I don't know what the project uh projection costs are for such a thing.


but I don't know what the project uh projection costs are for such a thing.

Uh if you th look at the market , it's probably  it's still the best way just to put batteries in it , because maybe it's too expensive.


Uh if you th look at the market , it's probably  it's still the best way just to put batteries in it , because maybe it's too expensive.


Uh if you th look at the market , it's probably  it's still the best way just to put batteries in it , because maybe it's too expensive.

Yeah , but a home station is uh a really good idea , because uh lots of people are  uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is ,


Yeah , but a home station is uh a really good idea , because uh lots of people are  uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is ,


Yeah , but a home station is uh a really good idea , because uh lots of people are  uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is ,

and now you can put it always at the same place.


and now you can put it always at the same place.


and now you can put it always at the same place.

Maybe it's  Therefore it's a good idea , but maybe it's expensive.


Maybe it's  Therefore it's a good idea , but maybe it's expensive.

Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Sell it uh separately.


Maybe it's  Therefore it's a good idea , but maybe it's expensive.

Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Sell it uh separately.

Yeah. You can  yeah , you can buy it with it.


Maybe it's  Therefore it's a good idea , but maybe it's expensive.

Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Sell it uh separately.

Yeah. You can  yeah , you can buy it with it.

Yeah , but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh


Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Sell it uh separately.

Yeah. You can  yeah , you can buy it with it.

Yeah , but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh


Yeah. You can  yeah , you can buy it with it.

Yeah , but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh

Yeah , and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and just put it in the station ,


Yeah , but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh

Yeah , and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and just put it in the station ,


Yeah , and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and just put it in the station ,


The option , just the option , that's cool.


The option , just the option , that's cool.

Uh I I set something on paper already ,  size , looks , uh usable , uh the buttons on usable places , uh the the on off button must be on top ,


Uh I I set something on paper already ,  size , looks , uh usable , uh the buttons on usable places , uh the the on off button must be on top ,


Has it be  has  does it has to b have to be um uh like a different form than a normal remote control


Has it be  has  does it has to b have to be um uh like a different form than a normal remote control

Yeah , I don't I don't know I don't know


Yeah , I don't I don't know I don't know


'cause well you can do  the standard way , but then you won't


'cause well you can do  the standard way , but then you won't

You can make it very special , to create our own um looks ,


You can make it very special , to create our own um looks ,

N uh if if we want to make it special , we probably have to do a lot of testing , if it really works.


N uh if if we want to make it special , we probably have to do a lot of testing , if it really works.

Well you can um have uh  the basic things on the same place , like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block , and then the volume uh obviously on t on top , so you can see.


Well you can um have uh  the basic things on the same place , like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block , and then the volume uh obviously on t on top , so you can see.

But the rest is uh you don't use that often , so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it , it should be clear as well.


But the rest is uh you don't use that often , so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it , it should be clear as well.


But the rest is uh you don't use that often , so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it , it should be clear as well.

So it doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think ,


So it doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think ,

so you can do something unique with that.


So it doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think ,

so you can do something unique with that.

And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open , when you have it closed , you  can still uh do the th the functions.


so you can do something unique with that.

And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open , when you have it closed , you  can still uh do the th the functions.


so you can do something unique with that.

And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open , when you have it closed , you  can still uh do the th the functions.

Yeah , just for the T_V_ and just the normal function , that's fine.


And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open , when you have it closed , you  can still uh do the th the functions.

Yeah , just for the T_V_ and just the normal function , that's fine.


Yeah , just for the T_V_ and just the normal function , that's fine.

Uh on on top are the the basic options on top ,


Uh on on top are the the basic options on top ,


Uh on on top are the the basic options on top ,

yeah , but uh i  basically when I'm watching T_V_ I'm just using like five buttons or so ,


yeah , but uh i  basically when I'm watching T_V_ I'm just using like five buttons or so ,


maybe it's very hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh  what's it's called ?


maybe it's very hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh  what's it's called ?

Mm. If you if if you make to fold open it's or also an  uh the strength uh is not s as good as a normal uh remote control.


Mm. If you if if you make to fold open it's or also an  uh the strength uh is not s as good as a normal uh remote control.

No , that's right. So maybe we have to to uh keep it like mm a square , just normal remote control .


No , that's right. So maybe we have to to uh keep it like mm a square , just normal remote control .


We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting , so.


We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting , so.

There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes , so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to  what you have to do ?


There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes , so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to  what you have to do ?


There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes , so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to  what you have to do ?

Um for m for me uh the Marketing Expert , the user requirements uh specification , do I need to think as a user , a as a a a only the looks and the


Um for m for me uh the Marketing Expert , the user requirements uh specification , do I need to think as a user , a as a a a only the looks and the


Um for m for me uh the Marketing Expert , the user requirements uh specification , do I need to think as a user , a as a a a only the looks and the

Yeah , I think this  if you  you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_ , a D_V_D_ player , all that things. Also from a user , but all these things together.


Um for m for me uh the Marketing Expert , the user requirements uh specification , do I need to think as a user , a as a a a only the looks and the

Yeah , I think this  if you  you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_ , a D_V_D_ player , all that things. Also from a user , but all these things together.

Okay. Yeah , it's also about strength and uh for everything uh.


Yeah , I think this  if you  you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_ , a D_V_D_ player , all that things. Also from a user , but all these things together.

Okay. Yeah , it's also about strength and uh for everything uh.


Okay. Yeah , it's also about strength and uh for everything uh.


no maybe not not uh  , that's not a f that's something for for for  yeah.


what's in the market , what's normal , uh what kind of uh buttons do you have.


what's in the market , what's normal , uh what kind of uh buttons do you have.

What do you want to do with your remote control , what do you need on your remote control.


What do you want to do with your remote control , what do you need on your remote control.


There's already a document in the folder about it.


For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square , so  your laptop.


Good morning , Flores. Marketing Expert.


Good morning , Flores. Marketing Expert.

Are you ready ? You should put the laptop uh right into the square.


Are you ready ? You should put the laptop uh right into the square.


How are you today ? How was your business trip to Boston ?


How are you today ? How was your business trip to Boston ?

Um well , actually I didn't go , didn't feel like it.


How are you today ? How was your business trip to Boston ?

Um well , actually I didn't go , didn't feel like it.

So  Do you want to open it as read-only.


Um well , actually I didn't go , didn't feel like it.

So  Do you want to open it as read-only.


So  Do you want to open it as read-only.

You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um


You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um


You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um

Okay , the waiting is for our Marketing Expert , Ruud.


Okay , the waiting is for our Marketing Expert , Ruud.


Yes , there is actually. Um I will li list the agenda for today. For this meeting. Good morning , Ruud.


yeah , great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square , um for the cameras. Okay. Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product.


yeah , great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square , um for the cameras. Okay. Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product.

Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager about it.


yeah , great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square , um for the cameras. Okay. Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product.

Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager about it.

Um  and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as the Marketing Expert , Roo is here as the User Interface Designer and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct ?


Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager about it.

Um  and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as the Marketing Expert , Roo is here as the User Interface Designer and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct ?


Um  and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as the Marketing Expert , Roo is here as the User Interface Designer and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct ?


Um  we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here. Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan , uh and we will have a discussion. Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes , so we should keep that in mind.


Um  we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here. Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan , uh and we will have a discussion. Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes , so we should keep that in mind.

Okay. Um is there any room for a little presentation ? Uh maybe during the discussion uh section ?


Okay. Um is there any room for a little presentation ? Uh maybe during the discussion uh section ?


Um okay , this new product we are are g are going to develop , um it's a remote control , a television remote control. Um and first of all it should be original , it should be trendy and user-friendly. Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals , um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop.  Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and all those kind of things.


Um okay , this new product we are are g are going to develop , um it's a remote control , a television remote control. Um and first of all it should be original , it should be trendy and user-friendly. Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals , um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop.  Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and all those kind of things.

The market , we should have a look at the market. Um  we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development , um which consists of three different design stages. Uh the functional design , the conceptual design and the detailed design , um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work , prepare , and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the   the the progressions , yes.


The market , we should have a look at the market. Um  we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development , um which consists of three different design stages. Uh the functional design , the conceptual design and the detailed design , um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work , prepare , and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the   the the progressions , yes.

Um the first stage , the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements , and we will um make a specific  uh specification of that. Um  the second is the technical functional design , um what effect should the remote have ? Well in this case control t the the television I think.


Um the first stage , the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements , and we will um make a specific  uh specification of that. Um  the second is the technical functional design , um what effect should the remote have ? Well in this case control t the the television I think.

Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages , uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it  keep it with the functional design.  Okay , um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation.  Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um  to um presentate , to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder , which is on your desktop , at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system.  Um yeah , I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh


Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages , uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it  keep it with the functional design.  Okay , um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation.  Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um  to um presentate , to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder , which is on your desktop , at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system.  Um yeah , I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh

sensors , so do not grab it here , but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well , it  it's on the um eraser now , so we click the pen button. Okay , so not too fast writing. Um  you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day.  Um you can use the eraser to make something go away.


Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages , uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it  keep it with the functional design.  Okay , um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation.  Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um  to um presentate , to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder , which is on your desktop , at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system.  Um yeah , I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh

sensors , so do not grab it here , but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well , it  it's on the um eraser now , so we click the pen button. Okay , so not too fast writing. Um  you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day.  Um you can use the eraser to make something go away.

But we all use the same white-board file


sensors , so do not grab it here , but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well , it  it's on the um eraser now , so we click the pen button. Okay , so not too fast writing. Um  you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day.  Um you can use the eraser to make something go away.

But we all use the same white-board file


sensors , so do not grab it here , but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well , it  it's on the um eraser now , so we click the pen button. Okay , so not too fast writing. Um  you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day.  Um you can use the eraser to make something go away.

But we all use the same white-board file

So we can work together on it while we're


But we all use the same white-board file

So we can work together on it while we're


So we can work together on it while we're

or should we only use it in the in the meetings ?


So we can work together on it while we're

or should we only use it in the in the meetings ?

Yeah , in the meetings , only in the meetings.


or should we only use it in the in the meetings ?

Yeah , in the meetings , only in the meetings.


or should we only use it in the in the meetings ?

Yeah , in the meetings , only in the meetings.

It's really like like a regu regular whiteboard.


Yeah , in the meetings , only in the meetings.

It's really like like a regu regular whiteboard.


It's really like like a regu regular whiteboard.

Um you can choose the format , um  sorry. Uh  Let me see. Um  Well   I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected. Yep. Current colour , you can choose another colour. And um for example black , and you c I can choose the line width. Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour. Okay. Quite easy , if you uh do have any questions , just c ask me. Um  to um  oh well , I'm  I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us. Um as a little training  um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected.


Um you can choose the format , um  sorry. Uh  Let me see. Um  Well   I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected. Yep. Current colour , you can choose another colour. And um for example black , and you c I can choose the line width. Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour. Okay. Quite easy , if you uh do have any questions , just c ask me. Um  to um  oh well , I'm  I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us. Um as a little training  um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected.


Um Roo , could you do the same please ? But a different animal with a different colour and a different line width.


I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal.


I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal.

Yeah , I'm think about it too.  Format . Well , it looked more than a bunny than a cat , but  it works ,


Yeah , I'm think about it too.  Format . Well , it looked more than a bunny than a cat , but  it works ,


Okay , so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions  well , just just let me know. Um okay , back to our project. Um  the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros , which is quite a number.  Um


Okay , so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions  well , just just let me know. Um okay , back to our project. Um  the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros , which is quite a number.  Um

we uh we will focus this internationally , so the product will be sold um , if there is market uh interest , uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty , so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development ,  um because uh , well , those are important numbers. Um then the discussion , maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation.


Okay , so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions  well , just just let me know. Um okay , back to our project. Um  the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros , which is quite a number.  Um

we uh we will focus this internationally , so the product will be sold um , if there is market uh interest , uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty , so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development ,  um because uh , well , those are important numbers. Um then the discussion , maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation.

Yes , um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion , because uh there might be some uh


we uh we will focus this internationally , so the product will be sold um , if there is market uh interest , uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty , so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development ,  um because uh , well , those are important numbers. Um then the discussion , maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation.

Yes , um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion , because uh there might be some uh


Yes , um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion , because uh there might be some uh


Okay ?  Okay. Um first about my role , role of the Industrial Designer. I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things , and the technical possibilities and impossibilities. So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas , uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions , but uh there might be some impossibilities. So that's one.  Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that , but  well , these are quite the same. Sorry about that. Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product.


Okay ?  Okay. Um first about my role , role of the Industrial Designer. I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things , and the technical possibilities and impossibilities. So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas , uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions , but uh there might be some impossibilities. So that's one.  Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that , but  well , these are quite the same. Sorry about that. Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product.

I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion. One thing about uh interopera operability. Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device  diverse subset of equipment. Uh for instance , uh D_V_D_ players , cell phones , video and audio equipment. So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment.


I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion. One thing about uh interopera operability. Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device  diverse subset of equipment. Uh for instance , uh D_V_D_ players , cell phones , video and audio equipment. So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment.

Well , there should be some interoperabi interoperability between them.


Well , there should be some interoperabi interoperability between them.

I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore , so infrared is not uh


Well , there should be some interoperabi interoperability between them.

I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore , so infrared is not uh

is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things like uh Bluetooth.


I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore , so infrared is not uh

is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things like uh Bluetooth.

But  Yeah , but the infrared , it's uh , well , a little bit old-fashioned , if you would call it like that.


is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things like uh Bluetooth.

But  Yeah , but the infrared , it's uh , well , a little bit old-fashioned , if you would call it like that.

But all the T_V_s are uh equipped with infrared , so


But  Yeah , but the infrared , it's uh , well , a little bit old-fashioned , if you would call it like that.

But all the T_V_s are uh equipped with infrared , so

But it's cost-effective. Yes. Mm-hmm. Well , not all , not all.


But all the T_V_s are uh equipped with infrared , so

But it's cost-effective. Yes. Mm-hmm. Well , not all , not all.


But it's cost-effective. Yes. Mm-hmm. Well , not all , not all.


you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together in one remote.


you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together in one remote.

Maybe , but that's uh something we should discuss


you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together in one remote.

Maybe , but that's uh something we should discuss

and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role , I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input , and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look ,


Maybe , but that's uh something we should discuss

and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role , I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input , and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look ,


and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role , I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input , and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look ,

but take these things into account when you start the discussion.


and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role , I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input , and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look ,

but take these things into account when you start the discussion.

Okay , so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability ,


but take these things into account when you start the discussion.

Okay , so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability ,


Okay , so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability ,

so one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment ,


so one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment ,


so one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment ,

and the way of communicating with these equipments.


and the way of communicating with these equipments.


and the way of communicating with these equipments.

Um  that was your presentation ? Okay , okay.


Um  that was your presentation ? Okay , okay.


Um  that was your presentation ? Okay , okay.

Um  okay. Great. Um  I'll go back to my own presentation. Um  Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things.


Um  that was your presentation ? Okay , okay.

Um  okay. Great. Um  I'll go back to my own presentation. Um  Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things.

Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um  how to make it trendy , which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user , which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part. Um so let's start with you.


Um  okay. Great. Um  I'll go back to my own presentation. Um  Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things.

Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um  how to make it trendy , which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user , which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part. Um so let's start with you.


Um  okay. Great. Um  I'll go back to my own presentation. Um  Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things.

Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um  how to make it trendy , which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user , which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part. Um so let's start with you.

H how do you think the remote should um function for the user ?


Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um  how to make it trendy , which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user , which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part. Um so let's start with you.

H how do you think the remote should um function for the user ?

Well , I had a few uh things in mind. Um well , the interoperability , just like uh Sebastian said , um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um  Yeah uh , what is it , devices ?


H how do you think the remote should um function for the user ?

Well , I had a few uh things in mind. Um well , the interoperability , just like uh Sebastian said , um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um  Yeah uh , what is it , devices ?


H how do you think the remote should um function for the user ?

Well , I had a few uh things in mind. Um well , the interoperability , just like uh Sebastian said , um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um  Yeah uh , what is it , devices ?

Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store.


Well , I had a few uh things in mind. Um well , the interoperability , just like uh Sebastian said , um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um  Yeah uh , what is it , devices ?

Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store.

Yes , I think it should be something like that.


Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store.

Yes , I think it should be something like that.

It's not for uh for uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product ,


Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store.

Yes , I think it should be something like that.

It's not for uh for uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product ,

Okay , so we're we're going business to consumer ,


Yes , I think it should be something like that.

It's not for uh for uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product ,

Okay , so we're we're going business to consumer ,


It's not for uh for uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product ,

Okay , so we're we're going business to consumer ,


Okay , so we're we're going business to consumer ,

Yeah , I do I don't know that. It's no I have uh  don't have the information for it.


Yeah , I do I don't know that. It's no I have uh  don't have the information for it.

We're not developing this product for a specific vendor , are we ?


We're not developing this product for a specific vendor , are we ?


we're just developing this product , and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public , so it should fit to every device.


Yeah , I think I think they're right , yeah.


Yeah , I think I think they're right , yeah.

Um  Well , the techni fu technical function uh   what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function.


Um  Well , the techni fu technical function uh   what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function.

So that was my  really my part for uh this session. Um


Um  Well , the techni fu technical function uh   what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function.

So that was my  really my part for uh this session. Um

So is that ease of use or uh is that more like um


So that was my  really my part for uh this session. Um

So is that ease of use or uh is that more like um


So that was my  really my part for uh this session. Um

So is that ease of use or uh is that more like um

Well , that's just the fu the technical function is  pure what should the remote control do , wh what is his task uh as an uh as an uh device.


So is that ease of use or uh is that more like um

Well , that's just the fu the technical function is  pure what should the remote control do , wh what is his task uh as an uh as an uh device.


Well , that's just the fu the technical function is  pure what should the remote control do , wh what is his task uh as an uh as an uh device.


And you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this ?


And you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this ?

Yeah , or maybe you want a touch-screen or


Yeah , or maybe you want a touch-screen or


Yeah , or maybe you want a touch-screen or

I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward , sidewords.


I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward , sidewords.


I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward , sidewords.

You know these things. And um it's very easy for a user to to switch


You know these things. And um it's very easy for a user to to switch


to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_ , on on a chapters , you know , on a D_V_D_ player. So maybe that's an idea ,


to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_ , on on a chapters , you know , on a D_V_D_ player. So maybe that's an idea ,

And for other user interface I had um , well , it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_ , I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to point directly to the T_V_ ,


And for other user interface I had um , well , it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_ , I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to point directly to the T_V_ ,


And for other user interface I had um , well , it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_ , I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to point directly to the T_V_ ,

so you must  point everywhere , so maybe infrared is


so you must  point everywhere , so maybe infrared is


so you must  point everywhere , so maybe infrared is

Yeah , just don't even point it , so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to that.


Yeah , just don't even point it , so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to that.


Uh is that uh  are there restriction for the range , the operating range too ? So when you're not able to point at the device um the range is very limited.


Uh is that uh  are there restriction for the range , the operating range too ? So when you're not able to point at the device um the range is very limited.

Yeah , if you g if you go to radio or or  yeah. For T_V_ , you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_ , so I don't think think the range should be a problem to that ,


Uh is that uh  are there restriction for the range , the operating range too ? So when you're not able to point at the device um the range is very limited.

Yeah , if you g if you go to radio or or  yeah. For T_V_ , you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_ , so I don't think think the range should be a problem to that ,

but if you want to uh get it working with a radio , and you're in  outside your garden with just one uh speaker , then maybe the range should be uh


Yeah , if you g if you go to radio or or  yeah. For T_V_ , you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_ , so I don't think think the range should be a problem to that ,

but if you want to uh get it working with a radio , and you're in  outside your garden with just one uh speaker , then maybe the range should be uh


but if you want to uh get it working with a radio , and you're in  outside your garden with just one uh speaker , then maybe the range should be uh

Okay , gentlemen , um uh just a reminder , we d we have five minutes left for this meeting


Okay , gentlemen , um uh just a reminder , we d we have five minutes left for this meeting


Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um   you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons , so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand.


Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um   you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons , so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand.

You must feel the buttons for volume or whatever , I think.


You must feel the buttons for volume or whatever , I think.

And of course you don't always know where all buttons are , so it should be visible al um  in dark too.


And of course you don't always know where all buttons are , so it should be visible al um  in dark too.


Uh I'll write down glow in the dark. Is tha


Okay , um uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting.


Okay , um uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting.

Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the  such a product ? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product ?


Okay , um uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting.

Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the  such a product ? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product ?

Uh I think most most things have already been said , like uh control multiple devices.


Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the  such a product ? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product ?

Uh I think most most things have already been said , like uh control multiple devices.


Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the  such a product ? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product ?

Uh I think most most things have already been said , like uh control multiple devices.

And uh , yeah , infrared might be an issue.


Uh I think most most things have already been said , like uh control multiple devices.

And uh , yeah , infrared might be an issue.


And uh , yeah , infrared might be an issue.

Uh well , he said about n abo what he said about pointing.


Uh well , he said about n abo what he said about pointing.

But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So  we'll probably have to implement that.


Uh well , he said about n abo what he said about pointing.

But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So  we'll probably have to implement that.

Okay. Okay. Okay , Sebastian , did you have any other ideas ?


But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So  we'll probably have to implement that.

Okay. Okay. Okay , Sebastian , did you have any other ideas ?

Um well yes , I had , uh about three minutes ago ,


But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So  we'll probably have to implement that.

Okay. Okay. Okay , Sebastian , did you have any other ideas ?

Um well yes , I had , uh about three minutes ago ,

but I've seem to forget them   forgot them. Um  oh yes , I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark.


Okay. Okay. Okay , Sebastian , did you have any other ideas ?

Um well yes , I had , uh about three minutes ago ,

but I've seem to forget them   forgot them. Um  oh yes , I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark.


Um well yes , I had , uh about three minutes ago ,

but I've seem to forget them   forgot them. Um  oh yes , I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark.

Um uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control , on which you can see functions ? Which makes it easier to operate it.


but I've seem to forget them   forgot them. Um  oh yes , I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark.

Um uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control , on which you can see functions ? Which makes it easier to operate it.

Yeah. Well , maybe I um  but it it can be quite simple ,


Um uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control , on which you can see functions ? Which makes it easier to operate it.

Yeah. Well , maybe I um  but it it can be quite simple ,


Um uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control , on which you can see functions ? Which makes it easier to operate it.

Yeah. Well , maybe I um  but it it can be quite simple ,

you can just have white buttons with a black mark on it.


Yeah. Well , maybe I um  but it it can be quite simple ,

you can just have white buttons with a black mark on it.


you can just have white buttons with a black mark on it.


Uh then it's already visible in dark. So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy


Uh then it's already visible in dark. So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy

well , it can be for design , of course.


well , it can be for design , of course.


well , it can be for design , of course.

Yeah , yeah , okay , because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product. So


Yeah , yeah , okay , because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product. So

Yes , but there's a cost limitation too.


Yes , but there's a cost limitation too.


So that's a big problem , I think. I think the the financial part of this project uh implicates that it's not going to be a high high-end product.


The digits of uh the the painting on the buttons should not fade.


Always have s the soft buttons , always uh clear the the the paint on it. The marks.


So just f um  So this is our agenda. You're  F You're going to show your pr prototype presentation after me.


So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right , just say it to me then. I don't have to put it in the report.


So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right , just say it to me then. I don't have to put it in the report.

Are we doing the the speech recognition ? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well.


So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right , just say it to me then. I don't have to put it in the report.

Are we doing the the speech recognition ? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well.

Okay , but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to , it's okay.


So these are the um last notes we I made. If anything doesn't look right , just say it to me then. I don't have to put it in the report.

Are we doing the the speech recognition ? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well.

Okay , but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to , it's okay.

Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in.


Are we doing the the speech recognition ? Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well.

Okay , but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to , it's okay.

Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in.


Okay , but it's still possible uh uh financially. So if you want to , it's okay.

Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in.

Yeah , just uh we have to design the inside then , but it should be uh


Okay yeah. Well then then we're gonna put it in.

Yeah , just uh we have to design the inside then , but it should be uh

Yeah , and   Or are we making a slide open , like underneath ? Or fold open ? I don't know.


Yeah , just uh we have to design the inside then , but it should be uh

Yeah , and   Or are we making a slide open , like underneath ? Or fold open ? I don't know.

Slide open is uh quite usable for remote controls.


Yeah , just uh we have to design the inside then , but it should be uh

Yeah , and   Or are we making a slide open , like underneath ? Or fold open ? I don't know.

Slide open is uh quite usable for remote controls.

It's probably better. Yeah , s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and you  other functions.


Yeah , and   Or are we making a slide open , like underneath ? Or fold open ? I don't know.

Slide open is uh quite usable for remote controls.

It's probably better. Yeah , s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and you  other functions.

It's may maybe uh a bit stronger as well.


Slide open is uh quite usable for remote controls.

It's probably better. Yeah , s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and you  other functions.

It's may maybe uh a bit stronger as well.

Maybe that's better. Yeah , that's that's a very good point.


It's probably better. Yeah , s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and you  other functions.

It's may maybe uh a bit stronger as well.

Maybe that's better. Yeah , that's that's a very good point.


It's may maybe uh a bit stronger as well.

Maybe that's better. Yeah , that's that's a very good point.

Okay , so when you have a lot of room inside.


Maybe that's better. Yeah , that's that's a very good point.

Okay , so when you have a lot of room inside.


Okay , so when you have a lot of room inside.

So you can make it very easy to use. 'Cause you can write a lot of comments besides it.


So you can make it very easy to use. 'Cause you can write a lot of comments besides it.

No. Yeah , we're gonna use the advanced chip then.


So you can make it very easy to use. 'Cause you can write a lot of comments besides it.

No. Yeah , we're gonna use the advanced chip then.

Okay , so that's  Uh I'll just have a look how much that is.


No. Yeah , we're gonna use the advanced chip then.

Okay , so that's  Uh I'll just have a look how much that is.


Okay , so that's  Uh I'll just have a look how much that is.


No , you have a different chip for speech recognition. So


No , you have a different chip for speech recognition. So

So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay.


So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay.


So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget. So it's okay.

So you can show your prototype if you want to.


So you can show your prototype if you want to.

Yeah. Yeah , it's  Let's do it together.


Yeah. Yeah , it's  Let's do it together.

Okay. Yeah , we just made a Word file with the basic elements. Uh the look-and-feel model. Uh well the form , the case um as drawn there. Simply a square with uh round corners. So that's basically it.  Uh the material should be hard plastic. Uh colour changeable , and also transparent.


Okay. Yeah , we just made a Word file with the basic elements. Uh the look-and-feel model. Uh well the form , the case um as drawn there. Simply a square with uh round corners. So that's basically it.  Uh the material should be hard plastic. Uh colour changeable , and also transparent.

And colour and transparent , or just transparent , I don't know. Um then the elements. Uh we have  The functions are just basic. Like uh I've pointed them here. Mute function , on-off function , text functions. This uh switch channel.


And colour and transparent , or just transparent , I don't know. Um then the elements. Uh we have  The functions are just basic. Like uh I've pointed them here. Mute function , on-off function , text functions. This uh switch channel.

And this is the the num-pad. And the logo is over here , and the mic.


And this is the the num-pad. And the logo is over here , and the mic.

And the scrollwheel , no ? You operate that with your pointing finger.


And the scrollwheel , no ? You operate that with your pointing finger.

So you hold it like this in your right hand and


And the scrollwheel , no ? You operate that with your pointing finger.

So you hold it like this in your right hand and

Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone ?


So you hold it like this in your right hand and

Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone ?


So you hold it like this in your right hand and

Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone ?

Yeah , speech recognition. Just  Only one button to say it's on or off.


Mm. So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone ?

Yeah , speech recognition. Just  Only one button to say it's on or off.

Um I didn't have a specification of that. But um I can imagine that you have to input your voice or something.


Yeah , speech recognition. Just  Only one button to say it's on or off.

Um I didn't have a specification of that. But um I can imagine that you have to input your voice or something.


Um I didn't have a specification of that. But um I can imagine that you have to input your voice or something.

Yeah , maybe maybe uh you have to configure it.


Yeah , maybe maybe uh you have to configure it.

Yes , you need options to configure it , and after that you don't need 'em anymore.


Yeah , maybe maybe uh you have to configure it.

Yes , you need options to configure it , and after that you don't need 'em anymore.

So you can put it on the back as well if you want to.


Yeah , maybe maybe uh you have to configure it.

Yes , you need options to configure it , and after that you don't need 'em anymore.

So you can put it on the back as well if you want to.

Yeah , you can  put 'em all on the back. That's for sure.


Yes , you need options to configure it , and after that you don't need 'em anymore.

So you can put it on the back as well if you want to.

Yeah , you can  put 'em all on the back. That's for sure.

Yeah , or or on the slide function , I don't know.


So you can put it on the back as well if you want to.

Yeah , you can  put 'em all on the back. That's for sure.

Yeah , or or on the slide function , I don't know.


Yeah , you can  put 'em all on the back. That's for sure.

Yeah , or or on the slide function , I don't know.


Yeah , or or on the slide function , I don't know.

Well we haven't had time to design that , the slide pad.


Well we haven't had time to design that , the slide pad.


Well we haven't had time to design that , the slide pad.

We also don't know how many buttons are required , or what kind of buttons. But  You have a lot of room if you can slide it open.


We also don't know how many buttons are required , or what kind of buttons. But  You have a lot of room if you can slide it open.

You  Yeah I know. I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So  But it's enough room.


We also don't know how many buttons are required , or what kind of buttons. But  You have a lot of room if you can slide it open.

You  Yeah I know. I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So  But it's enough room.

Yeah. Um the position ? Yeah , you write uh


You  Yeah I know. I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something. So  But it's enough room.

Yeah. Um the position ? Yeah , you write uh


Yeah. Um the position ? Yeah , you write uh

Well the main , the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing.


Well the main , the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing.

So uh the best  place , the best reach place  Um on-off buttons , text buttons , mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are , easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger , uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red , 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's  basically the be standard place for scrollwheel , as far as I know.


Well the main , the main zap buttons are most central. That was the the most important thing.

So uh the best  place , the best reach place  Um on-off buttons , text buttons , mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are , easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger , uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red , 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's  basically the be standard place for scrollwheel , as far as I know.

Yeah. But it's not uh impossible to use it , if you're left handed. So y Because you can use your thumb then.


So uh the best  place , the best reach place  Um on-off buttons , text buttons , mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are , easy to find. Um the on-off button is a bit bigger , uh so it stands out. That way you don't have to make it red , 'cause it's will uh will show up. Uh scrollwheel is on the left side. It's  basically the be standard place for scrollwheel , as far as I know.

Yeah. But it's not uh impossible to use it , if you're left handed. So y Because you can use your thumb then.

Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight nine.


Yeah. But it's not uh impossible to use it , if you're left handed. So y Because you can use your thumb then.

Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight nine.


Just just one thing now. Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight nine.

But you missed the no uh the zero and uh the two stripes.


But you missed the no uh the zero and uh the two stripes.

Yeah okay. That's that's below that then.


Yeah okay. That's that's below that then.


But um I'll just uh  I'll get back to later. F the form well , we've taken that from the iPod , other popular technical device. So um should be popular. Um  The f uh the buttons creating ? Uh if you   That or all round shapes , not uh rounded corners.


But um I'll just uh  I'll get back to later. F the form well , we've taken that from the iPod , other popular technical device. So um should be popular. Um  The f uh the buttons creating ? Uh if you   That or all round shapes , not uh rounded corners.

So that , you know , you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons , uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing , the thing that lights up. We have decided uh  in the the channel buttons , there's a little uh colour around it.


So that , you know , you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons , uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing , the thing that lights up. We have decided uh  in the the channel buttons , there's a little uh colour around it.

And also in the num-pads , there's also colour  light behind it.


So that , you know , you get a bit round feeling. Um we'll use hard plastic. Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons , uh non-rubber buttons. Colour changeable. Well and um the backlight thing , the thing that lights up. We have decided uh  in the the channel buttons , there's a little uh colour around it.

And also in the num-pads , there's also colour  light behind it.

And do you still can , do you still can choose what colour , kind of colour you want ?


And also in the num-pads , there's also colour  light behind it.

And do you still can , do you still can choose what colour , kind of colour you want ?


And also in the num-pads , there's also colour  light behind it.

And do you still can , do you still can choose what colour , kind of colour you want ?

How do you want to implement that ? Just on the  Maybe on the second level as well ?


And do you still can , do you still can choose what colour , kind of colour you want ?

How do you want to implement that ? Just on the  Maybe on the second level as well ?

We're going to implement. Yeah. Mm just a little


How do you want to implement that ? Just on the  Maybe on the second level as well ?

We're going to implement. Yeah. Mm just a little

Yeah , these are just basic functions , so


We're going to implement. Yeah. Mm just a little

Yeah , these are just basic functions , so


Yeah , these are just basic functions , so

Okay , just draw draw the second level , because we need that as well.


Okay , just draw draw the second level , because we need that as well.


Okay , just draw draw the second level , because we need that as well.

Okay , there is one uh function I use uh daily , and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player.


Okay , there is one uh function I use uh daily , and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player.


Okay , there is one uh function I use uh daily , and it's not on the basic functions. It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart. Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player.

That function must be  Yeah , maybe  Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other uh functions.


That function must be  Yeah , maybe  Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other uh functions.


Just just draw a second level one and say all options that are still left or something.


Like a a new blank one or  Or just here ?


And h how does the second level come out ?


You can do it that it claps open , but I think that's not solid enough.


So it do doesn't even have to slide all the way open. Um


Menu button. With uh maybe uh arrows. So you can uh


I think we can even put a   We have one for the zero and one for the for the more digit uh channels.


I think we can even put a   We have one for the zero and one for the for the more digit uh channels.

Uh yeah. And so y you keep you keep one , you have one left. Yes.


I think we can even put a   We have one for the zero and one for the for the more digit uh channels.

Uh yeah. And so y you keep you keep one , you have one left. Yes.

So you have one left for the  Right , the video channel , Play Station , etcetera. That's used pretty often.


Uh yeah. And so y you keep you keep one , you have one left. Yes.

So you have one left for the  Right , the video channel , Play Station , etcetera. That's used pretty often.


So you have one left for the  Right , the video channel , Play Station , etcetera. That's used pretty often.

If you have a Play Station , mm you use it every day.


If you have a Play Station , mm you use it every day.


You want to save that file as well ? The drawing ?


You want to save that file as well ? The drawing ?

So here are multiple speech buttons , I don't know how many.


So here are multiple speech buttons , I don't know how many.


What else ? Uh menu buttons with arrows.


Um I think it's best if we do. Mm where do we have  Or there.


Um I think it's best if we do. Mm where do we have  Or there.

Yeah , with in the middle um a menu button.


Yeah , with in the middle um a menu button.


Yeah , with in the middle um a menu button.

Well we don't have any , anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it.


Well we don't have any , anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it.


Well we don't have any , anything on how many buttons speech requires. So you can't redesign it.

Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs ?


Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs ?


you can hold it , and then the colours switch or mm multiple multiple buttons.


you can hold it , and then the colours switch or mm multiple multiple buttons.

Just press it once , the colour should uh switch. Press again , the colour switch again maybe ?


Just press it once , the colour should uh switch. Press again , the colour switch again maybe ?

Or we just make it three buttons , all the colours on it. Just red , yel uh red , green and


Or we just make it three buttons , all the colours on it. Just red , yel uh red , green and


Or we just make it three buttons , all the colours on it. Just red , yel uh red , green and

If we have enough place , uh then we can do that.


If we have enough place , uh then we can do that.


If we have enough place , uh then we can do that.

Colour buttons. And then we choose green , uh blue and red or


Colour buttons. And then we choose green , uh blue and red or


Yeah , maybe some uh some text next to the scroll wheel , that it is volume.


There's one text button I prefer. That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page , uh like seven hundred , uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred , you will switch to your television and back to text.


There's one text button I prefer. That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page , uh like seven hundred , uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred , you will switch to your television and back to text.

Yeah , we have that on the the text button.


Yeah , we have that on the the text button.


Yeah , but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext. You just switch it off and then


Yeah , but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext. You just switch it off and then

Yeah , just put it on those extra f extra function as well.


Yeah , just put it on those extra f extra function as well.


Yeah , just put it on those extra f extra function as well.

Well w we thought of a text button. And if you press it again , you get the the the


Well w we thought of a text button. And if you press it again , you get the the the


Yeah , b but but if you're in the second stage , the third stage is switch teletext off.


Yeah , b but but if you're in the second stage , the third stage is switch teletext off.

So you can switch back from second to w first.


Yeah , b but but if you're in the second stage , the third stage is switch teletext off.

So you can switch back from second to w first.

No , it doesn't have to turn it off. Just don't


So you can switch back from second to w first.

No , it doesn't have to turn it off. Just don't


No , it doesn't have to turn it off. Just don't

It it doesn't uh uh clear the the page. If you if you turn teletext on , you you set the seven hundred , and you turn it off , then the next time you turn it on , it still stays on seven hundred ?


It it doesn't uh uh clear the the page. If you if you turn teletext on , you you set the seven hundred , and you turn it off , then the next time you turn it on , it still stays on seven hundred ?


That's a functionality for the television.


That's a functionality for the television.

Mm. That's maybe one thing we can discuss about.


That's a functionality for the television.

Mm. That's maybe one thing we can discuss about.

Yeah mm nee uh  No , if i  uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred , page seven hundred to the television. Th th th if you switch it on.


Mm. That's maybe one thing we can discuss about.

Yeah mm nee uh  No , if i  uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred , page seven hundred to the television. Th th th if you switch it on.

Yeah , in thi the the remote control in the


Mm. That's maybe one thing we can discuss about.

Yeah mm nee uh  No , if i  uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred , page seven hundred to the television. Th th th if you switch it on.

Yeah , in thi the the remote control in the

Okay. Yeah , but you have to search every time again.


Yeah mm nee uh  No , if i  uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred , page seven hundred to the television. Th th th if you switch it on.

Yeah , in thi the the remote control in the

Okay. Yeah , but you have to search every time again.


Yeah , in thi the the remote control in the

Okay. Yeah , but you have to search every time again.


Okay. Yeah , but you have to search every time again.

That's what what happening if you do it like that. But it's still the television that has to do that.


That's what what happening if you do it like that. But it's still the television that has to do that.


Mm  most new T_V_s do uh collect all the pages.


Mm  most new T_V_s do uh collect all the pages.

But uh not not every every television , so


But uh not not every every television , so


Yeah , I I thought about one thing. Uh the buttons ? Uh from which material are they now ?


Yeah , I I thought about one thing. Uh the buttons ? Uh from which material are they now ?

Just like your telephone , hard plastic.


Just like your telephone , hard plastic.


Just like your telephone , hard plastic.

It's too expensive to make it from a different material anyway.


It's too expensive to make it from a different material anyway.

Because um if you use it a couple of years , some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away , are uh  And maybe we can write the numbers below or above ? Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons ?


Because um if you use it a couple of years , some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away , are uh  And maybe we can write the numbers below or above ? Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons ?

If you do it abo above or below , it takes uh more space.


If you do it abo above or below , it takes uh more space.


I think uh you have that problem more often with rubber buttons.


I think uh you have that problem more often with rubber buttons.

Yeah , and i The most time  Yeah , with rubber buttons. Yeah , okay.  Okay. Fine.


I think uh you have that problem more often with rubber buttons.

Yeah , and i The most time  Yeah , with rubber buttons. Yeah , okay.  Okay. Fine.

Yeah ? Okay , cool. Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah , I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one.


I think uh you have that problem more often with rubber buttons.

Yeah , and i The most time  Yeah , with rubber buttons. Yeah , okay.  Okay. Fine.

Yeah ? Okay , cool. Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah , I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one.

Yeah , I made some criteria uh , so we can uh ev evaluate our model.


Yeah , and i The most time  Yeah , with rubber buttons. Yeah , okay.  Okay. Fine.

Yeah ? Okay , cool. Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah , I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one.

Yeah , I made some criteria uh , so we can uh ev evaluate our model.

Oh okay , you made some criteria. Okay , cool. Okay.


Yeah ? Okay , cool. Mm mm mm mm mm. Yeah , I don't know what this means. But I think we just evela evaluated this one.

Yeah , I made some criteria uh , so we can uh ev evaluate our model.

Oh okay , you made some criteria. Okay , cool. Okay.

I d d d I don't think if it's right.  That shall show it.


Yeah , I made some criteria uh , so we can uh ev evaluate our model.

Oh okay , you made some criteria. Okay , cool. Okay.

I d d d I don't think if it's right.  That shall show it.


Oh okay , you made some criteria. Okay , cool. Okay.

I d d d I don't think if it's right.  That shall show it.


I d d d I don't think if it's right.  That shall show it.


Uh no , uh all criterias we just argue about. Uh


Evaluation crit Yeah , evaluation presentation. It's not in. Uh d it doesn't matter um  It only had two pages or something.  Um well I looked in the reports um from the marketing strategy , or uh of uh the the the the the the new needs and uh the market. The Italians uh , how they think about it. And   The research uh about uh the the comp uh the the the users and that kind of stuff. I made some criteria , and we have to test the criteria from one to zero. We sh we we we can give it uh a number , and then we can give ourself an average for our


And this  These are all I I I found , or I wrote down. And um  we have to discuss about  , if we give it a one or a seven.


And this  These are all I I I found , or I wrote down. And um  we have to discuss about  , if we give it a one or a seven.

Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea. It quite beautiful.


Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea. It quite beautiful.


Yeah , the the the difference be between uh beautiful and fancy uh look-and-feel is uh the the the outside uh beautiful uh like the iPod or something. And fancy's more like the mm uh f the flashing lights and the colours and  and that kind of stuff.


If it's really uh , if you can if you can get the iPod look , then it's beautiful , I think.


If it's really uh , if you can if you can get the iPod look , then it's beautiful , I think.

And and what ki what kind of what kind of basic colours uh were you thought uh of ?


And and what ki what kind of what kind of basic colours uh were you thought uh of ?

Yeah beautiful's is also a matter of taste.


And and what ki what kind of what kind of basic colours uh were you thought uh of ?

Yeah beautiful's is also a matter of taste.

The basic colours are black or green or yellow ?


Yeah beautiful's is also a matter of taste.

The basic colours are black or green or yellow ?


The basic colours are black or green or yellow ?


Do we have yellow light ? No , not really , but it's possible.


Do we have yellow light ? No , not really , but it's possible.

Not not not yellow  , but just a bit of light yellow.


Not not not yellow  , but just a bit of light yellow.


And what colours should the buttons be ?


Oh , the same as th th the cover. But also th the light behind it.


Oh , the same as th th the cover. But also th the light behind it.

But can you change those too , with uh the switch ?


Oh , the same as th th the cover. But also th the light behind it.

But can you change those too , with uh the switch ?

No , no. Make them  No , just make them black or grey or something.


But can you change those too , with uh the switch ?

No , no. Make them  No , just make them black or grey or something.


No , no. Make them  No , just make them black or grey or something.


Okay , so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful ? Beautiful is uh really subjective , uh because it has to do lots with the colours.


Okay , so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful ? Beautiful is uh really subjective , uh because it has to do lots with the colours.

Changeable fronts , so ev for everyone for everyone it's something beautiful.


Changeable fronts , so ev for everyone for everyone it's something beautiful.


It's perfect. I think it's just what you want. Or not ?


It's perfect. I think it's just what you want. Or not ?

It it's  At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls.


It it's  At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls.


It it's  At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls.

Yeah. A two. Okay. The fancy look-and-feel. That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons.


Yeah. A two. Okay. The fancy look-and-feel. That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons.

Okay. And we can change the colours , so that's uh really fancy I think.


Okay. And we can change the colours , so that's uh really fancy I think.


Are w are we changing uh  Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too ? Or n no back light ?


Are w are we changing uh  Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too ? Or n no back light ?

No. No , it's only on the number , behind the numbers


No. No , it's only on the number , behind the numbers


And and the switch channel is uh  There is a back light too ?


What do I think is necessary necessary item ?


What do I think is necessary necessary item ?

It's pretty cool. If you slide it open ,  it lights up. That's that's really fancy , but  I don't know if it's reachable.


It's pretty cool. If you slide it open ,  it lights up. That's that's really fancy , but  I don't know if it's reachable.


Okay , maybe just some light uh to to light it all up.


Okay , maybe just some light uh to to light it all up.

So you can see what's really there. Not just not re on the buttons or something.


So you can see what's really there. Not just not re on the buttons or something.

Just a green light or some blue light. To light it all up.


Just a green light or some blue light. To light it all up.


Yeah , just backlight. Not not the buttons.


Yeah , just backlight. Not not the buttons.

And th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons , but behind the buttons. So the buttons are just grey.


And th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons , but behind the buttons. So the buttons are just grey.


Okay , fine. So I I think it's very fancy.


Okay , fine. So I I think it's very fancy.

Yeah , w we've done a a lot of detail in light , so


Yeah , w we've done a a lot of detail in light , so


Yeah , w we've done a a lot of detail in light , so

Yeah , and you can uh also choose your light , so


Yeah , and you can uh also choose your light , so


This is a difficult one , because we we don't  Yeah , we don't know it about the


This is a difficult one , because we we don't  Yeah , we don't know it about the

Learnable ? Easy to use ? Yeah , we shall test it  But uh


This is a difficult one , because we we don't  Yeah , we don't know it about the

Learnable ? Easy to use ? Yeah , we shall test it  But uh

Uh  it's it's very easy to use , but uh the second layer is not easy to use.


Learnable ? Easy to use ? Yeah , we shall test it  But uh

Uh  it's it's very easy to use , but uh the second layer is not easy to use.


Uh  it's it's very easy to use , but uh the second layer is not easy to use.


And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer.


And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer.

That's th that's the main thing that's so good about it.


And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer.

That's th that's the main thing that's so good about it.

So I think it's easy to use , but  And learnable is a bit


That's th that's the main thing that's so good about it.

So I think it's easy to use , but  And learnable is a bit

Learnable ? It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control.


So I think it's easy to use , but  And learnable is a bit

Learnable ? It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control.

Because because I think I think the scroll wheel , uh it's very handy , but the first time you get this thing in your hands , it's not to use the scroll wheel.


Learnable ? It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control.

Because because I think I think the scroll wheel , uh it's very handy , but the first time you get this thing in your hands , it's not to use the scroll wheel.


Because because I think I think the scroll wheel , uh it's very handy , but the first time you get this thing in your hands , it's not to use the scroll wheel.

I think uh you must uh seek for it , and up or down or


I think uh you must uh seek for it , and up or down or


Yeah , I think it's very clear what it all does.


Yeah , I think it's very clear what it all does.

So so few information that you can easily decide what buttons w for what function.


So so few information that you can easily decide what buttons w for what function.

But the second parts , uh like speech , etcetera , that will be harder to learn.


But the second parts , uh like speech , etcetera , that will be harder to learn.


But the second parts , uh like speech , etcetera , that will be harder to learn.

So it is learnable um f i i In the first place it's very easy to use.


So it is learnable um f i i In the first place it's very easy to use.


And I think its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well , if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh of uh device.


And I think its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well , if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh of uh device.

Yeah. But we we've got the two so two uh two or three uh new things , huh ?


And I think its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well , if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh of uh device.

Yeah. But we we've got the two so two uh two or three uh new things , huh ?

And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech , uh the scroll wheel , and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls.


Yeah. But we we've got the two so two uh two or three uh new things , huh ?

And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech , uh the scroll wheel , and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls.


And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls. So we h we have speech , uh the scroll wheel , and um the the the slide. You must slide it. And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls.

'Cause I think learnable is a l a less than um  easy to use.


'Cause I think learnable is a l a less than um  easy to use.

Because easy to use comes after learnable.


Because easy to use comes after learnable.


No , but definitely better , much better than uh than uh than avera average , yeah.


No , but definitely better , much better than uh than uh than avera average , yeah.

And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know


And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know


New features. Techno technological innovative ?


New features. Techno technological innovative ?

The speech function and the colour. Colour.


New features. Techno technological innovative ?

The speech function and the colour. Colour.

And the scrollwheel , backlights , slide.


The speech function and the colour. Colour.

And the scrollwheel , backlights , slide.

The scrollwheel and the slide. Uh I think the slide is pretty new.


And the scrollwheel , backlights , slide.

The scrollwheel and the slide. Uh I think the slide is pretty new.

Slide is not n is is not new. No. I already have a


And the scrollwheel , backlights , slide.

The scrollwheel and the slide. Uh I think the slide is pretty new.

Slide is not n is is not new. No. I already have a

Uh I only saw it in a telephone , not in an remote control.


The scrollwheel and the slide. Uh I think the slide is pretty new.

Slide is not n is is not new. No. I already have a

Uh I only saw it in a telephone , not in an remote control.

Uh I already have a V_C_R_ and it's about from nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it.


Slide is not n is is not new. No. I already have a

Uh I only saw it in a telephone , not in an remote control.

Uh I already have a V_C_R_ and it's about from nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it.


Uh I only saw it in a telephone , not in an remote control.

Uh I already have a V_C_R_ and it's about from nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it.


Uh I already have a V_C_R_ and it's about from nineteen eighty eight. And they all have a slide in it.

But also slide that buttons come out , as well ?


But also slide that buttons come out , as well ?


Yeah , different fronts for a remote control , I think that's new too.


There are no games on it , that's that's  It's not a one , it's a two again.


There are no games on it , that's that's  It's not a one , it's a two again.

It's it's it's not not L_C_D_ or something.


There are no games on it , that's that's  It's not a one , it's a two again.

It's it's it's not not L_C_D_ or something.

But then we also have the the home station.


It's it's it's not not L_C_D_ or something.

But then we also have the the home station.


But then we also have the the home station.

Yeah. Oh yeah , that's right. Rechargeable.


Yeah. Oh yeah , that's right. Rechargeable.


Yeah , that's just a normal th s simple thing.


Yeah , that's just a normal th s simple thing.

If you  Can you save it on the same , in the same map as the other ones ? In the the project uh map ?


If you  Can you save it on the same , in the same map as the other ones ? In the the project uh map ?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh save as ? No , that's not in the project.


If you  Can you save it on the same , in the same map as the other ones ? In the the project uh map ?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh save as ? No , that's not in the project.

Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven.


Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh save as ? No , that's not in the project.

Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven.


Well it's a already in the folder. L like number seven.


But you still have to draw the resi the recharger.


But you still have to draw the resi the recharger.

Uh all  the the seven , uh all the seven.


But you still have to draw the resi the recharger.

Uh all  the the seven , uh all the seven.

Okay. And new features , so we give it a two or also again a one ? No , I think i if you have games on it , then then you give you have a one. But not


But you still have to draw the resi the recharger.

Uh all  the the seven , uh all the seven.

Okay. And new features , so we give it a two or also again a one ? No , I think i if you have games on it , then then you give you have a one. But not

No , we are not extraordinary new or something.


Uh all  the the seven , uh all the seven.

Okay. And new features , so we give it a two or also again a one ? No , I think i if you have games on it , then then you give you have a one. But not

No , we are not extraordinary new or something.


Okay. And new features , so we give it a two or also again a one ? No , I think i if you have games on it , then then you give you have a one. But not

No , we are not extraordinary new or something.


No , we are not extraordinary new or something.


Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience ? Do we like it ?


Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience ? Do we like it ?

No , we we we searched for uh um  a young group , audience , beneath f forty.


Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience ? Do we like it ?

No , we we we searched for uh um  a young group , audience , beneath f forty.

Yeah , but l younger than forty. So we we are exactly the targeted group.


Targeted audience. Uh we are the targeted audience ? Do we like it ?

No , we we we searched for uh um  a young group , audience , beneath f forty.

Yeah , but l younger than forty. So we we are exactly the targeted group.

Yes. Yeah , but did we reach , um  with our uh style , the targeted audience ?


No , we we we searched for uh um  a young group , audience , beneath f forty.

Yeah , but l younger than forty. So we we are exactly the targeted group.

Yes. Yeah , but did we reach , um  with our uh style , the targeted audience ?


Yeah , but l younger than forty. So we we are exactly the targeted group.

Yes. Yeah , but did we reach , um  with our uh style , the targeted audience ?


Yes. Yeah , but did we reach , um  with our uh style , the targeted audience ?

You get the fancy things for younger people. And you get the the aesthetic things for older people.


You get the fancy things for younger people. And you get the the aesthetic things for older people.


You get the fancy things for younger people. And you get the the aesthetic things for older people.

We've got a one for fancy look-and-feel , and that's what attracts the young audience. So


We've got a one for fancy look-and-feel , and that's what attracts the young audience. So


We've got a one for fancy look-and-feel , and that's what attracts the young audience. So

Um the only point is that we don't uh have uh uh   That's  that's   That's this question.


Um the only point is that we don't uh have uh uh   That's  that's   That's this question.

Yeah , but s it  That's basically not not handy. And  I don't thi I don't see


Yeah , but s it  That's basically not not handy. And  I don't thi I don't see

So we targeted it ? But we didn't follow the latest trends.


So we targeted it ? But we didn't follow the latest trends.

Yeah.  No. Yeah , you could make a a front


So we targeted it ? But we didn't follow the latest trends.

Yeah.  No. Yeah , you could make a a front

Mm. I think we followed the latest trends.


So we targeted it ? But we didn't follow the latest trends.

Yeah.  No. Yeah , you could make a a front

Mm. I think we followed the latest trends.

a front that's that's like uh like a banana ,  or something.