Right so everyone's to uh supposedly uh draw their favourite animal over on the white board over there. I guess this is uh make sure the whiteboard works. So uh I don't know who wishes to go first.

Do you wish to go f Have a first bash at uh whatever.


Do you wish to go f Have a first bash at uh whatever.


But now you you uh you'll move out from the microphone and the camera.


But now you you uh you'll move out from the microphone and the camera.

Are we supposed to do this right now , do you think , or ?


Are we supposed to do this right now , do you think , or ?


I mean you designers are meant to come up with these sort of things.


I mean you designers are meant to come up with these sort of things.

Okay. I think that I would have to say that my favourite animal is the cat. Little smiley cat there. Um and this would be because they're very independent , uh they're very intelligent , compared to dogs maybe.


I mean you designers are meant to come up with these sort of things.

Okay. I think that I would have to say that my favourite animal is the cat. Little smiley cat there. Um and this would be because they're very independent , uh they're very intelligent , compared to dogs maybe.

Um  and they can be very very affectionate. Some people don't think so but I know very affectionate cats. Um. Um and they can look after themselves.


Okay. I think that I would have to say that my favourite animal is the cat. Little smiley cat there. Um and this would be because they're very independent , uh they're very intelligent , compared to dogs maybe.

Um  and they can be very very affectionate. Some people don't think so but I know very affectionate cats. Um. Um and they can look after themselves.


Um  and they can be very very affectionate. Some people don't think so but I know very affectionate cats. Um. Um and they can look after themselves.


I don't see as there's any need to. There's plenty of space.


Shall I see if I can get across without just tangling everything. Okay.


Shall I see if I can get across without just tangling everything. Okay.

We've had more time to prepare over this side ,


Shall I see if I can get across without just tangling everything. Okay.

We've had more time to prepare over this side ,

so we've all stuck our bits and pieces in our pockets.


We've had more time to prepare over this side ,

so we've all stuck our bits and pieces in our pockets.


so we've all stuck our bits and pieces in our pockets.


pens are over here. I'll try the red pen. Okay. Um.  I'm gonna go for the bear which I'm  be able to draw very well ,


Ooh ooh  I lost it there. I think I've just knocked the microphone.  Um.


Ooh ooh  I lost it there. I think I've just knocked the microphone.  Um.

We'll g then we'll go for a a s small small bear .


Ooh ooh  I lost it there. I think I've just knocked the microphone.  Um.

We'll g then we'll go for a a s small small bear .

Um  and I like my animal that looks nothing like a bear because um I dunno maybe because there's so many cartoon characters made up after the bear like the jungle book characters and stuff like that.


We'll g then we'll go for a a s small small bear .

Um  and I like my animal that looks nothing like a bear because um I dunno maybe because there's so many cartoon characters made up after the bear like the jungle book characters and stuff like that.


We'll g then we'll go for a a s small small bear .

Um  and I like my animal that looks nothing like a bear because um I dunno maybe because there's so many cartoon characters made up after the bear like the jungle book characters and stuff like that.

Right. Hello. Um I'm gonna go for the dog , and I'm gonna draw one badly as well. Uh.  looks like it's going to be a dachshund or something.


Um  and I like my animal that looks nothing like a bear because um I dunno maybe because there's so many cartoon characters made up after the bear like the jungle book characters and stuff like that.

Right. Hello. Um I'm gonna go for the dog , and I'm gonna draw one badly as well. Uh.  looks like it's going to be a dachshund or something.


Right. Hello. Um I'm gonna go for the dog , and I'm gonna draw one badly as well. Uh.  looks like it's going to be a dachshund or something.

Right. There's my dog. Um  I like dogs because they're very loyal. And they're always happy , so whenever whenever you're feeling sort of a bit a bit down or tired , they're always coming up and they're always um quite excited. So um you can always have a lot of fun with a dog. And they're also good for exercise as well. You can sorta get out and they they sorta never get tired. And and when they're tired they're quite cute as well , so.


Right. There's my dog. Um  I like dogs because they're very loyal. And they're always happy , so whenever whenever you're feeling sort of a bit a bit down or tired , they're always coming up and they're always um quite excited. So um you can always have a lot of fun with a dog. And they're also good for exercise as well. You can sorta get out and they they sorta never get tired. And and when they're tired they're quite cute as well , so.

Right , um.  Well I've not actually had too many pets uh over my uh time 'cause to be honest with you uh  I'm not too keen on them anyway. Not to worry. So what my daughters have got at the moment is they've got uh a few fish and so hopefully um won't prove too difficult to draw. Uh


Right. There's my dog. Um  I like dogs because they're very loyal. And they're always happy , so whenever whenever you're feeling sort of a bit a bit down or tired , they're always coming up and they're always um quite excited. So um you can always have a lot of fun with a dog. And they're also good for exercise as well. You can sorta get out and they they sorta never get tired. And and when they're tired they're quite cute as well , so.

Right , um.  Well I've not actually had too many pets uh over my uh time 'cause to be honest with you uh  I'm not too keen on them anyway. Not to worry. So what my daughters have got at the moment is they've got uh a few fish and so hopefully um won't prove too difficult to draw. Uh

As you can see that my artist artistic work is useless as well.


Right , um.  Well I've not actually had too many pets uh over my uh time 'cause to be honest with you uh  I'm not too keen on them anyway. Not to worry. So what my daughters have got at the moment is they've got uh a few fish and so hopefully um won't prove too difficult to draw. Uh

As you can see that my artist artistic work is useless as well.

Anyway um.  And uh one of the best uh things about fish is that they don't really take uh too much looking after because uh with most of the animals if you're going away on holiday or whatever , you've gotta spend money or get a friend or whatever to look after them for you. Whereas if you got fish , you just gotta put the food in a a a dripper feed which feeds them over the uh couple of weeks that you're away and uh change the water every couple of months , and buy in a few plants , so. Other than the fact that they keep dying ,


Right , um.  Well I've not actually had too many pets uh over my uh time 'cause to be honest with you uh  I'm not too keen on them anyway. Not to worry. So what my daughters have got at the moment is they've got uh a few fish and so hopefully um won't prove too difficult to draw. Uh

As you can see that my artist artistic work is useless as well.

Anyway um.  And uh one of the best uh things about fish is that they don't really take uh too much looking after because uh with most of the animals if you're going away on holiday or whatever , you've gotta spend money or get a friend or whatever to look after them for you. Whereas if you got fish , you just gotta put the food in a a a dripper feed which feeds them over the uh couple of weeks that you're away and uh change the water every couple of months , and buy in a few plants , so. Other than the fact that they keep dying ,

uh fish are uh  are not are are are reasonable pets in that uh they're low maintenance.


As you can see that my artist artistic work is useless as well.

Anyway um.  And uh one of the best uh things about fish is that they don't really take uh too much looking after because uh with most of the animals if you're going away on holiday or whatever , you've gotta spend money or get a friend or whatever to look after them for you. Whereas if you got fish , you just gotta put the food in a a a dripper feed which feeds them over the uh couple of weeks that you're away and uh change the water every couple of months , and buy in a few plants , so. Other than the fact that they keep dying ,

uh fish are uh  are not are are are reasonable pets in that uh they're low maintenance.


Anyway um.  And uh one of the best uh things about fish is that they don't really take uh too much looking after because uh with most of the animals if you're going away on holiday or whatever , you've gotta spend money or get a friend or whatever to look after them for you. Whereas if you got fish , you just gotta put the food in a a a dripper feed which feeds them over the uh couple of weeks that you're away and uh change the water every couple of months , and buy in a few plants , so. Other than the fact that they keep dying ,

uh fish are uh  are not are are are reasonable pets in that uh they're low maintenance.

Right. Okay , uh if we're still all with us. Right okay , so. Work has been done on uh this uh project where by um twenty five Euros is uh the uh expected uh selling price. That information has come from our marketing manager here.


uh fish are uh  are not are are are reasonable pets in that uh they're low maintenance.

Right. Okay , uh if we're still all with us. Right okay , so. Work has been done on uh this uh project where by um twenty five Euros is uh the uh expected uh selling price. That information has come from our marketing manager here.


Right. Okay , uh if we're still all with us. Right okay , so. Work has been done on uh this uh project where by um twenty five Euros is uh the uh expected uh selling price. That information has come from our marketing manager here.

So we're looking to sell internationally , not just in Europe. We're looking at um having our production costs limited to uh twelve and an half Euro per unit. And therefore making a profit margin of uh  well not actually a profit margin it's uh  because obviously you're gonna have overheads and various other costs to uh take uh from uh from that to give you your profit margin per unit. And so depending what the uh the overhead uh costs are will determine uh how many units we're uh looking to sell or projecting to sell at this point in time.


Right. Okay , uh if we're still all with us. Right okay , so. Work has been done on uh this uh project where by um twenty five Euros is uh the uh expected uh selling price. That information has come from our marketing manager here.

So we're looking to sell internationally , not just in Europe. We're looking at um having our production costs limited to uh twelve and an half Euro per unit. And therefore making a profit margin of uh  well not actually a profit margin it's uh  because obviously you're gonna have overheads and various other costs to uh take uh from uh from that to give you your profit margin per unit. And so depending what the uh the overhead uh costs are will determine uh how many units we're uh looking to sell or projecting to sell at this point in time.

So um  Experience with remote control , first ideas. New remote. So I guess we're looking at um having a discussion at this point in time to help uh you um folks design our our new model as it were.


So we're looking to sell internationally , not just in Europe. We're looking at um having our production costs limited to uh twelve and an half Euro per unit. And therefore making a profit margin of uh  well not actually a profit margin it's uh  because obviously you're gonna have overheads and various other costs to uh take uh from uh from that to give you your profit margin per unit. And so depending what the uh the overhead uh costs are will determine uh how many units we're uh looking to sell or projecting to sell at this point in time.

So um  Experience with remote control , first ideas. New remote. So I guess we're looking at um having a discussion at this point in time to help uh you um folks design our our new model as it were.


So um  Experience with remote control , first ideas. New remote. So I guess we're looking at um having a discussion at this point in time to help uh you um folks design our our new model as it were.

Um I  with some remote controls the buttons were a little small so they're quite hard to press so maybe we make something with uh easy to press buttons. As that is the main function.


Um I  with some remote controls the buttons were a little small so they're quite hard to press so maybe we make something with uh easy to press buttons. As that is the main function.

Okay , so so basically we're looking for some um  we're looking for a device that is um robust and and therefore uh won't get damaged too easily.


Um I  with some remote controls the buttons were a little small so they're quite hard to press so maybe we make something with uh easy to press buttons. As that is the main function.

Okay , so so basically we're looking for some um  we're looking for a device that is um robust and and therefore uh won't get damaged too easily.

Um we're looking for a device that is uh  What was the other things you said there ?


Okay , so so basically we're looking for some um  we're looking for a device that is um robust and and therefore uh won't get damaged too easily.

Um we're looking for a device that is uh  What was the other things you said there ?

Um sort of easy to use so the buttons are accessible.


Um we're looking for a device that is uh  What was the other things you said there ?

Um sort of easy to use so the buttons are accessible.


Um sort of easy to use so the buttons are accessible.


Can I just check ?  Is this just a television remote ? Because a lot of um systems are kind of T_V_ video combined now , or T_V_ D_V_D_ combined.


Can I just check ?  Is this just a television remote ? Because a lot of um systems are kind of T_V_ video combined now , or T_V_ D_V_D_ combined.

And one of the most annoying things is having like five remotes in the house. So if you've got a combined system , it could be a combined remote.


Can I just check ?  Is this just a television remote ? Because a lot of um systems are kind of T_V_ video combined now , or T_V_ D_V_D_ combined.

And one of the most annoying things is having like five remotes in the house. So if you've got a combined system , it could be a combined remote.

Or is it just a television that we're supposed to be doing ?


And one of the most annoying things is having like five remotes in the house. So if you've got a combined system , it could be a combined remote.

Or is it just a television that we're supposed to be doing ?


And one of the most annoying things is having like five remotes in the house. So if you've got a combined system , it could be a combined remote.

Or is it just a television that we're supposed to be doing ?

Oh I w um basically I'll get back to you on that.


Or is it just a television that we're supposed to be doing ?

Oh I w um basically I'll get back to you on that.


Oh I w um basically I'll get back to you on that.

'cause  as you rightly said , there's nothing more annoying than having three or four devices littered about the uh about the room.


'cause  as you rightly said , there's nothing more annoying than having three or four devices littered about the uh about the room.


I've Okay. Yeah. Um one of the things um we found from the market research is that people often get confused by the number of buttons on them as well. 'Cause there's quite often lots and lots. And um sometimes uh they sort of  remote controls defeat their own purpose because you're sat in the chair and the remote is somewhere else in the room. So  whereas in the past you'd have to get up to change the channel , now you have to get up to sort of pick up the remote. So so I don't we need to sort of maybe think about how um we could maybe uh develop a remote control which moves around the room.


I've Okay. Yeah. Um one of the things um we found from the market research is that people often get confused by the number of buttons on them as well. 'Cause there's quite often lots and lots. And um sometimes uh they sort of  remote controls defeat their own purpose because you're sat in the chair and the remote is somewhere else in the room. So  whereas in the past you'd have to get up to change the channel , now you have to get up to sort of pick up the remote. So so I don't we need to sort of maybe think about how um we could maybe uh develop a remote control which moves around the room.

That's that's maybe something for the future when you can talk to your television , but


That's that's maybe something for the future when you can talk to your television , but


That's that's maybe something for the future when you can talk to your television , but

But is it  in a sense it's r um mutually exclusive. You can't have both the th the one device and then have few buttons on it to


But is it  in a sense it's r um mutually exclusive. You can't have both the th the one device and then have few buttons on it to

'cause you want you want simplicity as well , you want any idiot to be able to use it. Whilst at the same time you want , as you rightly said , one remote for all.


'cause you want you want simplicity as well , you want any idiot to be able to use it. Whilst at the same time you want , as you rightly said , one remote for all.

And so these are probably mutually exclusive options


And so these are probably mutually exclusive options


Hmm you could argue that experience of using devices and similar devices as people get more and more used to using remotes , therefore they're more  with handling them ,


Hmm you could argue that experience of using devices and similar devices as people get more and more used to using remotes , therefore they're more  with handling them ,

therefore you can make them more complicated as time goes on.


Hmm you could argue that experience of using devices and similar devices as people get more and more used to using remotes , therefore they're more  with handling them ,

therefore you can make them more complicated as time goes on.

Maybe we could um have better instructions with the remote. Or are we just doing the design of the remote control itself , or sort of the instructions that would come with it ?


therefore you can make them more complicated as time goes on.

Maybe we could um have better instructions with the remote. Or are we just doing the design of the remote control itself , or sort of the instructions that would come with it ?


therefore you can make them more complicated as time goes on.

Maybe we could um have better instructions with the remote. Or are we just doing the design of the remote control itself , or sort of the instructions that would come with it ?

Yeah. I mean we've done some research um about sort of you know what the cutting edge sort of hand held devices are , and a lot of them sort of use you know they're like they're like mini laptops.


Maybe we could um have better instructions with the remote. Or are we just doing the design of the remote control itself , or sort of the instructions that would come with it ?

Yeah. I mean we've done some research um about sort of you know what the cutting edge sort of hand held devices are , and a lot of them sort of use you know they're like they're like mini laptops.


Yeah. I mean we've done some research um about sort of you know what the cutting edge sort of hand held devices are , and a lot of them sort of use you know they're like they're like mini laptops.

So it's possible that we could devise a system where where you're you're basically sort of holding a a miniature computer which is controlling all your your sort of your television , your stereo , and where  you know if you buy a new thing then it sort of  you can link it to that as well , maybe.


Yeah. I mean we've done some research um about sort of you know what the cutting edge sort of hand held devices are , and a lot of them sort of use you know they're like they're like mini laptops.

So it's possible that we could devise a system where where you're you're basically sort of holding a a miniature computer which is controlling all your your sort of your television , your stereo , and where  you know if you buy a new thing then it sort of  you can link it to that as well , maybe.

Okay. Um well we've got five minutes before the end of the meeting. So uh we have to uh start winding up. Um is there  Next meeting in thirty minutes.


So it's possible that we could devise a system where where you're you're basically sort of holding a a miniature computer which is controlling all your your sort of your television , your stereo , and where  you know if you buy a new thing then it sort of  you can link it to that as well , maybe.

Okay. Um well we've got five minutes before the end of the meeting. So uh we have to uh start winding up. Um is there  Next meeting in thirty minutes.


Okay. Um well we've got five minutes before the end of the meeting. So uh we have to uh start winding up. Um is there  Next meeting in thirty minutes.

So um  Right , so we've got I_D_ the  Come on , where's my


So um  Right , so we've got I_D_ the  Come on , where's my

If you just click return it should be okay. It'll get rid of the message.


So um  Right , so we've got I_D_ the  Come on , where's my

If you just click return it should be okay. It'll get rid of the message.

If you hit just hit return and it should get rid of the message.


If you just click return it should be okay. It'll get rid of the message.

If you hit just hit return and it should get rid of the message.


If you hit just hit return and it should get rid of the message.


That's what I was looking for. Right. So we've got function  Oh what happened to the


That's what I was looking for. Right. So we've got function  Oh what happened to the

I think that might be back to the start. Um if you grab the kind of uh slide to the left and pull it down ?


I think that might be back to the start. Um if you grab the kind of uh slide to the left and pull it down ?


Okay , so we've got um the working design for I_D_. For U_I_D_ the technical functions design. Marketing , the user requirement specification. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your person by your personal coach. So. Are we all clear what objectives we're looking to meet in the next thirty minutes ?


Okay , so we've got um the working design for I_D_. For U_I_D_ the technical functions design. Marketing , the user requirement specification. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your person by your personal coach. So. Are we all clear what objectives we're looking to meet in the next thirty minutes ?

And I guess I'll try and write up some minutes of uh this meeting to uh to give it to you for the next meeting.


And I guess I'll try and write up some minutes of uh this meeting to uh to give it to you for the next meeting.


I'm not exactly clear on what we're designing the rem remote for.


I'm not exactly clear on what we're designing the rem remote for.

Is this a mun multi-functional one or do we decide that ourselves as we go away and work on it ?


I'm not exactly clear on what we're designing the rem remote for.

Is this a mun multi-functional one or do we decide that ourselves as we go away and work on it ?

I think you just said at the start it was a television remote control ,


Is this a mun multi-functional one or do we decide that ourselves as we go away and work on it ?

I think you just said at the start it was a television remote control ,


Is this a mun multi-functional one or do we decide that ourselves as we go away and work on it ?

I think you just said at the start it was a television remote control ,

so maybe we should just stick to that unless we get told otherwise.


I think you just said at the start it was a television remote control ,

so maybe we should just stick to that unless we get told otherwise.


so maybe we should just stick to that unless we get told otherwise.

That's true , 'cause during during the course of our day we might make decisions based on information or meetings that would change  where we're going.


That's true , 'cause during during the course of our day we might make decisions based on information or meetings that would change  where we're going.

But at this point in time I think you're right that uh  shall we make it just a T_V_. Okay ? So we will depart.


But at this point in time I think you're right that uh  shall we make it just a T_V_. Okay ? So we will depart.


Where are are all the other presentations ?


Where are are all the other presentations ?

I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be


Where are are all the other presentations ?

I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be

yeah I think so. Yeah , conceptual design. What or whatever does it


I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be

yeah I think so. Yeah , conceptual design. What or whatever does it

Ah. Because I see only my own presentation


yeah I think so. Yeah , conceptual design. What or whatever does it

Ah. Because I see only my own presentation


Ah. Because I see only my own presentation

Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah components design , that's it.


Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah components design , that's it.


Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah components design , that's it.

.  I did get a bit more done than the last time ,


.  I did get a bit more done than the last time ,


'cause I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into the


'cause I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into the

I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but


I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but

You can look at the final report , 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such , so I'm trying to write it down between everything else.


I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but

You can look at the final report , 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such , so I'm trying to write it down between everything else.

Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,


You can look at the final report , 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such , so I'm trying to write it down between everything else.

Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,


Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,


Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there ,

and also with  I don't know how to use PowerPoint , so it takes me forever to get something done with it.


and also with  I don't know how to use PowerPoint , so it takes me forever to get something done with it.


Here we go again. Welcome. Uh we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to uh  f the remote control has to support.


yeah. Alright. Did you open it already or


yeah. Alright. Did you open it already or

no. Ah. Ah. Yes. So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching.  Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them


yeah. Alright. Did you open it already or

no. Ah. Ah. Yes. So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching.  Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them

oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments ? Uh development one.  Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition ,


no. Ah. Ah. Yes. So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching.  Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them

oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments ? Uh development one.  Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition ,


no. Ah. Ah. Yes. So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching.  Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them

oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments ? Uh development one.  Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition ,

so I don't expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um  Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect.


oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments ? Uh development one.  Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition ,

so I don't expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um  Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect.


so I don't expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um  Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect.

So um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention.


so I don't expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um  Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect.

So um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention.

Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part.


So um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention.

Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part.


So um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention.

Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part.

That this will be a crux. So that was the marketing uh presentation. I had only one document left.


Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part.

That this will be a crux. So that was the marketing uh presentation. I had only one document left.


That this will be a crux. So that was the marketing uh presentation. I had only one document left.


Uh nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing , and and some fruit and colours


Uh nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing , and and some fruit and colours

Cool.  Yeah you're just the user interface hmm ?


Cool.  Yeah you're just the user interface hmm ?


I'm dealing with the components design. Um let's see. I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products. And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design. That's why I had to , wanted to go first. Well they gave me um an idea about what people want. We're f mainly focusing on this group , but I want to make the distinction clear. Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like. But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type. If you , the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh , which looks like fruits you know , you can  and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore. So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier. There is a lot of um  factors involved in choosing the components.


I'm dealing with the components design. Um let's see. I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products. And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design. That's why I had to , wanted to go first. Well they gave me um an idea about what people want. We're f mainly focusing on this group , but I want to make the distinction clear. Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like. But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type. If you , the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh , which looks like fruits you know , you can  and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore. So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier. There is a lot of um  factors involved in choosing the components.

There's a lot of options that we have to discuss. Uh for example the energy source. we have four types. The basic battery. Uh we have a hand dynamo , which we yeah we Dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt.


I'm dealing with the components design. Um let's see. I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products. And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design. That's why I had to , wanted to go first. Well they gave me um an idea about what people want. We're f mainly focusing on this group , but I want to make the distinction clear. Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like. But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type. If you , the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh , which looks like fruits you know , you can  and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore. So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier. There is a lot of um  factors involved in choosing the components.

There's a lot of options that we have to discuss. Uh for example the energy source. we have four types. The basic battery. Uh we have a hand dynamo , which we yeah we Dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt.

Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it.


There's a lot of options that we have to discuss. Uh for example the energy source. we have four types. The basic battery. Uh we have a hand dynamo , which we yeah we Dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt.

Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it.

Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the


Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it.

Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the


Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it.

Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the

And uh of course solar cells. But I dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product.


Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the

And uh of course solar cells. But I dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product.


And uh of course solar cells. But I dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product.


yeah also also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia , they wouldn't be y able to use it half of the year you know.


So that's not cool either. So um  for the uh a case , there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case. Single curved , which means that it has uh curves in one dimension. Or the double curved. Um  I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet , but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now. Uh the case materials.


So that's not cool either. So um  for the uh a case , there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case. Single curved , which means that it has uh curves in one dimension. Or the double curved. Um  I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet , but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now. Uh the case materials.

Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic , the wood and the titanium. I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays.


Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic , the wood and the titanium. I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays.

Um poo , this is a lot of text. I wasn't able to organise this yet. We have yeah several uh interface designs. Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus , but we already kind of decided to go for the f for the pushbuttons , for the the arrow buttons.


Um poo , this is a lot of text. I wasn't able to organise this yet. We have yeah several uh interface designs. Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus , but we already kind of decided to go for the f for the pushbuttons , for the the arrow buttons.


Electronics ? Yeah ,  maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use  the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production , 'cause they they can print it better. Um  Yeah. I think this is about it. Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences. I first uh chose for the battery , 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious , easiest choice to go to. But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy ,


Electronics ? Yeah ,  maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use  the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production , 'cause they they can print it better. Um  Yeah. I think this is about it. Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences. I first uh chose for the battery , 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious , easiest choice to go to. But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy ,

where you have to move the thing to be able to use it.


where you have to move the thing to be able to use it.


Uh I think you can only fit one uh source of energy on the


I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make. But it is more longlasting , that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again.


And it's also more fun yeah. I always chuck my uh remote control around , so


And it's also more fun yeah. I always chuck my uh remote control around , so

and  especially when the material's rubber. It can be done , I mean , you can't harm it ,


and  especially when the material's rubber. It can be done , I mean , you can't harm it ,


You don't have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever.


So double curved is like this , this , this , or


So double curved is like this , this , this , or

No it means curved in two dimensions. So uh w single curved ? Uh let's say would be a b square box , but then with curves on one dimension.


So double curved is like this , this , this , or

No it means curved in two dimensions. So uh w single curved ? Uh let's say would be a b square box , but then with curves on one dimension.

And double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction. Like three D_. Yeah.


No it means curved in two dimensions. So uh w single curved ? Uh let's say would be a b square box , but then with curves on one dimension.

And double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction. Like three D_. Yeah.


And double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction. Like three D_. Yeah.


Yeah. One one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option. We were going to use that.


Yeah. One one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option. We were going to use that.

Yeah. So um   Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control.


Yeah. One one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option. We were going to use that.

Yeah. So um   Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control.

Well the visual representation is not there with speech


Yeah. So um   Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control.

Well the visual representation is not there with speech


Yeah. So um   Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control.

Well the visual representation is not there with speech

No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and


Well the visual representation is not there with speech

No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and


No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and


No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and

I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions that are already present.


I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions that are already present.


I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions that are already present.

So I don't think you have to design anything else for that.


So I don't think you have to design anything else for that.


So I don't think you have to design anything else for that.

But do uh j do we uh do the speech just for the basic options , for the simple buttons ?


But do uh j do we uh do the speech just for the basic options , for the simple buttons ?


also for the advanced options ? Okay. Uh we have this  very uh basic uh trendy design. Everybody says it so that's what's uh  yeah um  Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated. That's yeah obvious. Um yeah. Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control. And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah the options.


also for the advanced options ? Okay. Uh we have this  very uh basic uh trendy design. Everybody says it so that's what's uh  yeah um  Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated. That's yeah obvious. Um yeah. Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control. And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah the options.

And and the and the buttons that you need to control it , I guess.


also for the advanced options ? Okay. Uh we have this  very uh basic uh trendy design. Everybody says it so that's what's uh  yeah um  Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated. That's yeah obvious. Um yeah. Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control. And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah the options.

And and the and the buttons that you need to control it , I guess.

Yeah. Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your  yeah.


And and the and the buttons that you need to control it , I guess.

Yeah. Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your  yeah.

you have to uh delete this but this is the the the simple uh layout.


Yeah. Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your  yeah.

you have to uh delete this but this is the the the simple uh layout.


Yeah. Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your  yeah.

you have to uh delete this but this is the the the simple uh layout.

Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button.


you have to uh delete this but this is the the the simple uh layout.

Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button.


Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button.


What ? A little bit I think but not not everything w


What ? A little bit I think but not not everything w

Oh okay 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there were. So


Oh okay 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there were. So

But   But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons.


But   But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons.

Um  I wanted to to categorise everything. Uh with a speech display uh yeah , sound , everything you you noted in your uh minutes. Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light.


But   But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons.

Um  I wanted to to categorise everything. Uh with a speech display uh yeah , sound , everything you you noted in your uh minutes. Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light.

So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous  so that's an a also an option. Um that was it.


Um  I wanted to to categorise everything. Uh with a speech display uh yeah , sound , everything you you noted in your uh minutes. Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light.

So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous  so that's an a also an option. Um that was it.


So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous  so that's an a also an option. Um that was it.


So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous  so that's an a also an option. Um that was it.

Okay. Uh   again. Ugh.  Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use ? Uh energy source , chip type , case type. And user interface. But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay. So we only , we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy.


Okay. Uh   again. Ugh.  Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use ? Uh energy source , chip type , case type. And user interface. But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay. So we only , we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy.


Rubber material. And that's the only thing we have left.


Rubber material. And that's the only thing we have left.

Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh and f audio function.


Rubber material. And that's the only thing we have left.

Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh and f audio function.

So that's uh  is that is that the advanced chip ?


Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh and f audio function.

So that's uh  is that is that the advanced chip ?


So that's uh  is that is that the advanced chip ?


So that's uh  is that is that the advanced chip ?

Otherwise you would have a simple chip , just for pressing buttons. But we need more.


Otherwise you would have a simple chip , just for pressing buttons. But we need more.


Otherwise you would have a simple chip , just for pressing buttons. But we need more.

I'm just thinking , this is not my department , but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost ,


I'm just thinking , this is not my department , but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost ,


So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece.


The cost of making it should be twelve and a half ?


I didn't get any information about that so


I didn't get any information about that so

. We're going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem.


. We're going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem.


Who doesn't. Uh let's see. Is there a new thing ?


Who doesn't. Uh let's see. Is there a new thing ?

Uh it's it's quite difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh  yeah.


Uh it's it's quite difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh  yeah.

Ooh. No. Uh do you have a picture of doubly curved case ? And could you put that in the group folder ? Of the project folder.


Uh it's it's quite difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh  yeah.

Ooh. No. Uh do you have a picture of doubly curved case ? And could you put that in the group folder ? Of the project folder.

If you go to your homepage or something , you should


Ooh. No. Uh do you have a picture of doubly curved case ? And could you put that in the group folder ? Of the project folder.

If you go to your homepage or something , you should


If you go to your homepage or something , you should


I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh over there , so


This is the the menu I was uh looking uh at.


This is the the menu I was uh looking uh at.

Yeah. Yeah I was thinking of that also , with with a with a uh arrow.


Yeah. Yeah I was thinking of that also , with with a with a uh arrow.


So that indicates that there's an menu under that menu.


Maybe it's easier if you guys come over here.


Maybe it's easier if you guys come over here.

S see this is the the the standard traditional type , where the form uh yeah serves the function , you know.


S see this is the the the standard traditional type , where the form uh yeah serves the function , you know.


S see this is the the the standard traditional type , where the form uh yeah serves the function , you know.

It's like really basic. But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't want that.


It's like really basic. But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't want that.


It's like really basic. But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't want that.

This is what we're looking for. And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions.


This is what we're looking for. And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions.


This is what we're looking for. And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions.

Yeah also like this. So you can hold it.


Yeah also like this. So you can hold it.

exactly. It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation , the module. It has to be like the the Game Cube , you know ,


Yeah also like this. So you can hold it.

exactly. It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation , the module. It has to be like the the Game Cube , you know ,

where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold. And


exactly. It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation , the module. It has to be like the the Game Cube , you know ,

where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold. And

But it has also to  it it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people.


where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold. And

But it has also to  it it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people.

Th this looks a little bit like like for only for children. So


But it has also to  it it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people.

Th this looks a little bit like like for only for children. So


Th this looks a little bit like like for only for children. So

Yeah but that's that's the the problem uh yeah the dilemma actually ,


Yeah but that's that's the the problem uh yeah the dilemma actually ,


Yeah but that's that's the the problem uh yeah the dilemma actually ,

'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours , and with a lot of shape. And


'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours , and with a lot of shape. And

Yeah , and the and the rubber , it it will look cheap always ,


'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours , and with a lot of shape. And

Yeah , and the and the rubber , it it will look cheap always ,

The colour  Yeah. Okay but the the colours , you you can make it uh make the colours with  LEDs uh beneath the the buttons.


Yeah , and the and the rubber , it it will look cheap always ,

The colour  Yeah. Okay but the the colours , you you can make it uh make the colours with  LEDs uh beneath the the buttons.


The colour  Yeah. Okay but the the colours , you you can make it uh make the colours with  LEDs uh beneath the the buttons.

If you press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it.


If you press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it.


If you press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it.

There is mobile phones , in which you can change the colour also of the lights.


There is mobile phones , in which you can change the colour also of the lights.


To customise it and so  I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours


To customise it and so  I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours

and people who want something , you know , different , or more uh design , they can go for one colour


and people who want something , you know , different , or more uh design , they can go for one colour

like uh for example this uh photo th camera.


like uh for example this uh photo th camera.


Just give me the thing that it's inside there


And this is , this is with the curved that I mean.


Well we could make a compromise between that. But I don't know if it's worth the effort.


Well we could make a compromise between that. But I don't know if it's worth the effort.

Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved. So to appeal a little more to the all the public.


Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved. So to appeal a little more to the all the public.

This , this would be uh single curved uh ?


This , this would be uh single curved uh ?


Yeah so we keep it singly c single curved then ?


Yeah so we keep it singly c single curved then ?

Yeah that would be an option. I don't know what you think.


Yeah that would be an option. I don't know what you think.

I mean our aim is to make something different right ? To make something new.


I mean our aim is to make something different right ? To make something new.


And I I'm I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette , where you have the shape for your thumb.


And I I'm I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette , where you have the shape for your thumb.

So it kind of holds nicely , something like that.


And I I'm I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette , where you have the shape for your thumb.

So it kind of holds nicely , something like that.

Yeah but if you if you make it more curved we we can make more and more options for buttons.


So it kind of holds nicely , something like that.

Yeah but if you if you make it more curved we we can make more and more options for buttons.


Yeah but if you if you make it more curved we we can make more and more options for buttons.

If you have uh it have it in your hand , you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons.


If you have uh it have it in your hand , you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons.

Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button or something like that.


If you have uh it have it in your hand , you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons.

Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button or something like that.

Yeah. Something to shoot at your television


If you have uh it have it in your hand , you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons.

Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button or something like that.

Yeah. Something to shoot at your television

Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something ,


Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button or something like that.

Yeah. Something to shoot at your television

Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something ,


Yeah. Something to shoot at your television

Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something ,


Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something ,

that you scroll with your thumb , with the arrows , and then confirm.


that you scroll with your thumb , with the arrows , and then confirm.


that you scroll with your thumb , with the arrows , and then confirm.

That would be a nice way to use it but  I mean , yeah , I'm thinking big already , and we need something that well that  that you can able to use in one hand I think.


That would be a nice way to use it but  I mean , yeah , I'm thinking big already , and we need something that well that  that you can able to use in one hand I think.

Different. Stands out. Or  Oh yeah a one hand uh solution.


That would be a nice way to use it but  I mean , yeah , I'm thinking big already , and we need something that well that  that you can able to use in one hand I think.

Different. Stands out. Or  Oh yeah a one hand uh solution.

So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape.


Different. Stands out. Or  Oh yeah a one hand uh solution.

So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape.


So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape.

Maybe because the the screen is on top you can have


So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape.

Maybe because the the screen is on top you can have

To switch from buttons to interface hmm. If you turn it a little. .


Maybe because the the screen is on top you can have

To switch from buttons to interface hmm. If you turn it a little. .

Maybe you can c have this kind of shape. A little upwards. So that the screen is more


To switch from buttons to interface hmm. If you turn it a little. .

Maybe you can c have this kind of shape. A little upwards. So that the screen is more

towards yourself , so you can easily see your screen.


Maybe you can c have this kind of shape. A little upwards. So that the screen is more

towards yourself , so you can easily see your screen.


towards yourself , so you can easily see your screen.

Well well you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen. So then you have double double curved in some way. So this this is so the screen is positioned over here.


Well well you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen. So then you have double double curved in some way. So this this is so the screen is positioned over here.

Oh. Something like that. And the buttons are more , well it's very thick now but


Oh. Something like that. And the buttons are more , well it's very thick now but


Oh. Something like that. And the buttons are more , well it's very thick now but

How about we do a uh a pop-up screen , like the laptop.


How about we do a uh a pop-up screen , like the laptop.


How about we do a uh a pop-up screen , like the laptop.

So that the only the simple functions will be visible at first.


How about we do a uh a pop-up screen , like the laptop.

So that the only the simple functions will be visible at first.

Yeah ? That that you can press it and then it comes up ? Or


So that the only the simple functions will be visible at first.

Yeah ? That that you can press it and then it comes up ? Or


Yeah ? That that you can press it and then it comes up ? Or


But then the side view can be straight. If you have a pop-up screen. But I dunno if that's too expensive.


I would draw it like this. Let's say this is the side view. That you have a a screen that will come up here , and can go down that way. If you know what I mean.


I would draw it like this. Let's say this is the side view. That you have a a screen that will come up here , and can go down that way. If you know what I mean.

Okay so the buttons are on top here , and you flip it over that way.


Okay so the buttons are on top here , and you flip it over that way.

Yeah or  preferably even keep the simple buttons here , and then under the screen even you could put more more advanced buttons.


Okay so the buttons are on top here , and you flip it over that way.

Yeah or  preferably even keep the simple buttons here , and then under the screen even you could put more more advanced buttons.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Right. Yeah that's good idea.


Yeah or  preferably even keep the simple buttons here , and then under the screen even you could put more more advanced buttons.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Right. Yeah that's good idea.

That's  the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu.


Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Right. Yeah that's good idea.

That's  the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu.


That's  the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu.


No not all because you need most of them , the arrow buttons.


No not all because you need most of them , the arrow buttons.

But you can hide the okay and the back uh button.


But you can hide the okay and the back uh button.


But you can hide the okay and the back uh button.

And the menu button also because when you flip it open


And the menu button also because when you flip it open

and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate amauto uh uh automatically.


and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate amauto uh uh automatically.


and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate amauto uh uh automatically.

So  okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open.


So  okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open.

Why ? You could just make it mechanical.


So  okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open.

Why ? You could just make it mechanical.

True. True. But you can make a , yeah , you can make a trigger here. You know a simple uh  with a


So  okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open.

Why ? You could just make it mechanical.

True. True. But you can make a , yeah , you can make a trigger here. You know a simple uh  with a

Yeah.  Yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it , in combination with your


Why ? You could just make it mechanical.

True. True. But you can make a , yeah , you can make a trigger here. You know a simple uh  with a

Yeah.  Yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it , in combination with your


True. True. But you can make a , yeah , you can make a trigger here. You know a simple uh  with a

Yeah.  Yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it , in combination with your


Yeah.  Yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it , in combination with your

it's not very uh very strong uh  yeah if you drop it one time .


it's not very uh very strong uh  yeah if you drop it one time .


it's not very uh very strong uh  yeah if you drop it one time .

Well yeah the the idea of it was , is that because you close it , you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever.


Well yeah the the idea of it was , is that because you close it , you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever.


Well yeah the the idea of it was , is that because you close it , you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever.

An adv an adv and it will be covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something like that.


An adv an adv and it will be covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something like that.


An adv an adv and it will be covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something like that.

Exactly. Exactly. We just have to make sure that the closing mechanism won't break.


Exactly. Exactly. We just have to make sure that the closing mechanism won't break.

Yeah , uh  It's very no it's very strong.


Yeah , uh  It's very no it's very strong.


That actually will offer some extra protection for the


That actually will offer some extra protection for the

Okay but then we still have the the the thing of the the the shape. Yeah.


Okay but then we still have the the the thing of the the the shape. Yeah.

Yeah I was thinking , if if you have your hand , it this is your th


Yeah I was thinking , if if you have your hand , it this is your th


Yeah I was thinking , if if you have your hand , it this is your th

Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess , so maybe you should try it over there.


Yeah I was thinking , if if you have your hand , it this is your th

Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess , so maybe you should try it over there.

Okay. If this is your thumb , and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist.


Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess , so maybe you should try it over there.

Okay. If this is your thumb , and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist.

That you , that it would be kind of shape like this , you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand , to y f


Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess , so maybe you should try it over there.

Okay. If this is your thumb , and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist.

That you , that it would be kind of shape like this , you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand , to y f

But when you are left-handed , that's that's a problem.


Okay. If this is your thumb , and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist.

That you , that it would be kind of shape like this , you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand , to y f

But when you are left-handed , that's that's a problem.


That you , that it would be kind of shape like this , you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand , to y f

But when you are left-handed , that's that's a problem.


But when you are left-handed , that's that's a problem.


Yeah then w then you would have to to make it like this.


And maybe th then make this thicker also than the centre.


Obviously.  Make it more appealing to guys.


Obviously.  Make it more appealing to guys.

We we could make some some rubber uh some rubber uh yeah mouse , with which you can change uh


We we could make some some rubber uh some rubber uh yeah mouse , with which you can change uh


Yeah but but that's optional for later I guess.


Yeah but we have hardware inside , which is  so it has to have some sort of basic shape.


And also the screen , you cannot mould it.


And also the screen , you cannot mould it.

Yeah so okay we should better choose one sh one shape.


Yeah so okay we should better choose one sh one shape.


so it lays good in the hand , and then on on the side with with your thumb ,


so it lays good in the hand , and then on on the side with with your thumb ,

You can place the screen here , which can come .


You can place the screen here , which can come .


So the keywords are primary co colours , spongey ?


So the keywords are primary co colours , spongey ?

I would do the arrows here , kind of thing.


I would do the arrows here , kind of thing.


I would do the arrows here , kind of thing.

Those buttons ? And the simple buttons here ,


Those buttons ? And the simple buttons here ,


Yeah. And and the and the control thngs in the middle ? The the the arrows ?


or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something ?


or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something ?

Uh bananas  wierd shape and other fruits also ,


Uh bananas  wierd shape and other fruits also ,


Uh bananas  wierd shape and other fruits also ,

so it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours.


so it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours.

I don't know what what colours should the basic print be like ? Like some soft  green or something ?


I don't know what what colours should the basic print be like ? Like some soft  green or something ?


and then and then very bright , uh a yellow banana ,  an orange , uh a green apple , stuff like that ,


Yeah w we need very primary colours , like bright red , bright yellow.


Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote control.


Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote control.

If you we uh  yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour , then it's just a neutral colour ,


Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote control.

If you we uh  yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour , then it's just a neutral colour ,

also for the for the more uh yeah for the  people.


If you we uh  yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour , then it's just a neutral colour ,

also for the for the more uh yeah for the  people.


If you we uh  yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour , then it's just a neutral colour ,

also for the for the more uh yeah for the  people.

Mm.  That doesn't really work. To draw , I guess.


also for the for the more uh yeah for the  people.

Mm.  That doesn't really work. To draw , I guess.


Mm.  That doesn't really work. To draw , I guess.


So that's that's a dark blue basic colour I guess.


And how about some uh some flashing standby lights ?


And how about some uh some flashing standby lights ?

Like you have on the Samsung , well I don't like to call brands phones ,


And how about some uh some flashing standby lights ?

Like you have on the Samsung , well I don't like to call brands phones ,

the you know that   'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often.


Like you have on the Samsung , well I don't like to call brands phones ,

the you know that   'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often.


Like you have on the Samsung , well I don't like to call brands phones ,

the you know that   'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often.

So it  not not only in in the colours  of the LEDs , that we want something to keep it visible at all times , or


the you know that   'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often.

So it  not not only in in the colours  of the LEDs , that we want something to keep it visible at all times , or


So it  not not only in in the colours  of the LEDs , that we want something to keep it visible at all times , or

Yeah if you if flashing colour so you can't lose it , basically.


Yeah if you if flashing colour so you can't lose it , basically.


Yeah an orange. Well alright well this is more like purple I guess ,


Yeah an orange. Well alright well this is more like purple I guess ,

but  it's should be more real dark blue , so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty high.


but  it's should be more real dark blue , so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty high.


but  it's should be more real dark blue , so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty high.

So uh yeah. That would be a nice uh nice device I guess.


So uh yeah. That would be a nice uh nice device I guess.

And which which colour should uh should I give the the display ? Uh


And which which colour should uh should I give the the display ? Uh

I mean , the the colour of the background of the display ?


I mean , the the colour of the background of the display ?


I mean , the the colour of the background of the display ?

Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a sixty uh sixty six  five thousand uh colour , so yeah too expensive.


I mean , the the colour of the background of the display ?

Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a sixty uh sixty six  five thousand uh colour , so yeah too expensive.

And then you can use yellow or semething. Why not ?  Aye.


Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a sixty uh sixty six  five thousand uh colour , so yeah too expensive.

And then you can use yellow or semething. Why not ?  Aye.


Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a sixty uh sixty six  five thousand uh colour , so yeah too expensive.

And then you can use yellow or semething. Why not ?  Aye.

So just just a  a blue blue backlight or something like that.


And then you can use yellow or semething. Why not ?  Aye.

So just just a  a blue blue backlight or something like that.


So just just a  a blue blue backlight or something like that.

Green is too old-fashioned. But blue , blue's okay. J


So just just a  a blue blue backlight or something like that.

Green is too old-fashioned. But blue , blue's okay. J

As long as you loo  use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour.


Green is too old-fashioned. But blue , blue's okay. J

As long as you loo  use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour.


As long as you loo  use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour.

maybe a maybe a white a white backlight ?


maybe a maybe a white a white backlight ?


I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions. I mean it's hard to tell uh I dunno.


I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions. I mean it's hard to tell uh I dunno.

And also for people who are a bit colourblind.


And also for people who are a bit colourblind.


And also for people who are a bit colourblind.

No so that's mostly red and green I believe.


No so that's mostly red and green I believe.

Which which uh colour should the buttons be ?


Which which uh colour should the buttons be ?


That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy. Or is it uh too expensive ?


That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy. Or is it uh too expensive ?

But  maybe I mean they have to they have to have some colour right ?


But  maybe I mean they have to they have to have some colour right ?


But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours ? So th the total of the thing is very bright ?


But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours ? So th the total of the thing is very bright ?

Like the pictures I showed you guys. Those things were all like like bright red , bright red , flashy.


Like the pictures I showed you guys. Those things were all like like bright red , bright red , flashy.


Doesn't work very well. Uh. More like this colour.


Doesn't work very well. Uh. More like this colour.

Yeah something like that , something that stands out more.


Doesn't work very well. Uh. More like this colour.

Yeah something like that , something that stands out more.

And then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something.


Yeah something like that , something that stands out more.

And then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something.


And then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something.

But then then again , which colour should the buttons be ? The the press buttons. Should they be white or black or


But then then again , which colour should the buttons be ? The the press buttons. Should they be white or black or


But then then again , which colour should the buttons be ? The the press buttons. Should they be white or black or

And it it looks quite cheap , that colour I think.


And it it looks quite cheap , that colour I think.


Yeah but it's pretty fresh , on the other side.


Yeah but it's pretty fresh , on the other side.

It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment.


It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment.


Y left yeah left and then uh I have to kick you out.


Y left yeah left and then uh I have to kick you out.

That should be pretty nice colour. But maybe the buttons , all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind people.


That should be pretty nice colour. But maybe the buttons , all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind people.


But the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not ?


But the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not ?

Red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate. Even for colourblind.


Red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate. Even for colourblind.


Red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate. Even for colourblind.

They will see one of each as grey. But if you use uh green on blue , those kind of colours will look the same.


They will see one of each as grey. But if you use uh green on blue , those kind of colours will look the same.


Okay. That that's a default uh setting. The the red buttons.


Okay. That that's a default uh setting. The the red buttons.

Yeah. But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light.


Okay. That that's a default uh setting. The the red buttons.

Yeah. But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light.

Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think.


Yeah. But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light.

Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think.


Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think.

Okay. Yeah I I was think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and


Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think.

Okay. Yeah I I was think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and

'Cause you have to print on them  you have a background


Okay. Yeah I I was think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and

'Cause you have to print on them  you have a background


'Cause you have to print on them  you have a background


Uh partly but you have to print on the number. Or the the sign.


Uh partly but you have to print on the number. Or the the sign.

You better bet better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour I guess.


You better bet better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour I guess.


what we should do I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button , with uh one coloured LED behind it.


as the colour the    And if you think about easy to use buttons , we have to , well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands ,


as the colour the    And if you think about easy to use buttons , we have to , well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands ,

but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb , if you hold the machine.


but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb , if you hold the machine.

Okay with  Uh  Don't mean to discourage you but  uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard. Next thirty minutes to design something so


Okay with  Uh  Don't mean to discourage you but  uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard. Next thirty minutes to design something so


Yeah I don't know.  You probably get a mail.


Yeah I don't know.  You probably get a mail.

Oh okay. Or you you or you send it to me. Or just


Yeah I don't know.  You probably get a mail.

Oh okay. Or you you or you send it to me. Or just

because you are going to design it on this board right ?


Oh okay. Or you you or you send it to me. Or just

because you are going to design it on this board right ?

Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation  you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow. I don't know.


because you are going to design it on this board right ?

Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation  you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow. I don't know.

Yeah. I I probably get instruction on that , how to do that ,


Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation  you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow. I don't know.

Yeah. I I probably get instruction on that , how to do that ,


Yeah. I I probably get instruction on that , how to do that ,


I kn I know what's gonna happen in in yeah so


I kn I know what's gonna happen in in yeah so

And you two uh are going to do this. Look-and-feel and


And you two uh are going to do this. Look-and-feel and


And you two uh are going to do this. Look-and-feel and

So we're gonna work here ? On this sketchboard ?


So we're gonna work here ? On this sketchboard ?


So I  uh make new page and uh be creative.


So I  uh make new page and uh be creative.

But we have to do it at this moment , after th this meeting ?


But we have to do it at this moment , after th this meeting ?


Then we have to uh see something which we can uh


Ah so this is basically the what what we are thinking about ?


Yeah l let's just uh delete all these uh  or


Huh ? Yeah I'll just I'll just keep it there.


So if you'll rather draw in paint or something


Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first ?


Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first ?

Yeah. And then after that we can make the user uh inter interface.


Yeah. And then after that we can make the user uh inter interface.

Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the basic look-and-feel design.


Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the basic look-and-feel design.


So how it's gonna look. And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things.


So how it's gonna look. And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things.

So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct.


So how it's gonna look. And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things.

So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct.

Oh we skip this I guess. Sound  button press.


So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct.

Oh we skip this I guess. Sound  button press.


Oh we skip this I guess. Sound  button press.

Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ? For normal sketches.


Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ? For normal sketches.

You can also include it. It's not much work.


Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ? For normal sketches.

You can also include it. It's not much work.

Light only button user ca user interaction.


You can also include it. It's not much work.

Light only button user ca user interaction.


Light only button user ca user interaction.


So the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only lit during interaction. So


So the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only lit during interaction. So

Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on  when when they are usable.


Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on  when when they are usable.


Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on  when when they are usable.

Maybe you should draw it very large  like this.


Maybe you should draw it very large  like this.

Yeah but this part isn't uh functioning properly.


Yeah but this part isn't uh functioning properly.


You also do the other sides. Not only on the front si uh the top side but also the the side view.


You also do the other sides. Not only on the front si uh the top side but also the the side view.

L let's make first the the the all the views. The the front view , side view and the back view.


L let's make first the the the all the views. The the front view , side view and the back view.


L let's make first the the the all the views. The the front view , side view and the back view.

Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your


Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your


Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your

Why can't I work here ? This is much easier.


Why can't I work here ? This is much easier.


'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and


'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and

The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand.


'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and

The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand.

I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but


The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand.

I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but

Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think.


I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but

Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think.


Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think.


So the display we will put in here , the basic uh functions in here , where it's most reachable.


What do   don't have to draw it exactly do we ?


What do   don't have to draw it exactly do we ?

Wait. Let me try it one more time. Maybe I've uh  it's easier if I draw it in once. Okay , of course it will become way more ugly.


What do   don't have to draw it exactly do we ?

Wait. Let me try it one more time. Maybe I've uh  it's easier if I draw it in once. Okay , of course it will become way more ugly.

You can make it m larger. Maybe it's easier to to draw uh


Wait. Let me try it one more time. Maybe I've uh  it's easier if I draw it in once. Okay , of course it will become way more ugly.

You can make it m larger. Maybe it's easier to to draw uh

Yeah. This'll take forever. It's fun to work with this pen.


You can make it m larger. Maybe it's easier to to draw uh

Yeah. This'll take forever. It's fun to work with this pen.


Yeah. This'll take forever. It's fun to work with this pen.

Yeah that's that's the basic idea. Yeah.


Yeah that's that's the basic idea. Yeah.


Five minutes left before the meeting ends.


Five minutes left before the meeting ends.

Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit.


Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit.


Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit.

Yeah.  Let's fill i fill in the buttons later.


Yeah.  Let's fill i fill in the buttons later.


Because there the screen goes up like that right ?


or  that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the  it's better to have it somewhat like this. Or does it flip all the way ?


or  that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the  it's better to have it somewhat like this. Or does it flip all the way ?

The the idea is that it has to flip up to here.


or  that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the  it's better to have it somewhat like this. Or does it flip all the way ?

The the idea is that it has to flip up to here.

May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble. Because it do doesn't have to flip then.


The the idea is that it has to flip up to here.

May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble. Because it do doesn't have to flip then.


The the idea is that it has to flip up to here.

May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble. Because it do doesn't have to flip then.

Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D.


May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble. Because it do doesn't have to flip then.

Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D.


Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D.


Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D.

It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this.


It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this.


It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this.

But why why do we need uh the flipping uh


It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this.

But why why do we need uh the flipping uh

you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there.


But why why do we need uh the flipping uh

you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there.


But why why do we need uh the flipping uh

you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there.

You can flip it up to there if you want.


you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there.

You can flip it up to there if you want.

Yeah. So w yeah. But we still keep the flipping mechanism.


You can flip it up to there if you want.

Yeah. So w yeah. But we still keep the flipping mechanism.


Yeah. So w yeah. But we still keep the flipping mechanism.


Yeah because I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that


Yeah because I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that

Uh the the shape is okay but  yeah ? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism.


Uh the the shape is okay but  yeah ? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism.


Uh the the shape is okay but  yeah ? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism.

Because we  Okay yeah. It's it's for for for more trendy uh


Because we  Okay yeah. It's it's for for for more trendy uh

Yeah but maybe  Yeah but maybe we we should then


Because we  Okay yeah. It's it's for for for more trendy uh

Yeah but maybe  Yeah but maybe we we should then

Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button.


Because we  Okay yeah. It's it's for for for more trendy uh

Yeah but maybe  Yeah but maybe we we should then

Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button.

Yeah there the middle  Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?


Yeah but maybe  Yeah but maybe we we should then

Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button.

Yeah there the middle  Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?


Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button.

Yeah there the middle  Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?


Yeah there the middle  Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?

doh. Come on. So this is the shape. Oh. It hasn't


doh. Come on. So this is the shape. Oh. It hasn't


doh. Come on. So this is the shape. Oh. It hasn't

Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side , it doesn't fall on the screen.


Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side , it doesn't fall on the screen.

So there's a layer of rubber on the side.


So there's a layer of rubber on the side.


Yeah I guess but uh I mean most votes count right ?


Yeah I guess but uh I mean most votes count right ?

But if you if you  If you drop it it it just breaks. And it has to be very strong because of the . Yeah kind of


But if you if you  If you drop it it it just breaks. And it has to be very strong because of the . Yeah kind of

Throwing and the kinetics. Oh. We better make we better make it like this. Eventually.


Throwing and the kinetics. Oh. We better make we better make it like this. Eventually.


And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years.


And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years.

Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics


And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years.

Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics

Safer. Mm. Yeah okay that  the target group.


Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics

Safer. Mm. Yeah okay that  the target group.


Safer. Mm. Yeah okay that  the target group.

Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control. Yes.


Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control. Yes.


Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control. Yes.

Yeah. I'm just thinking totally different designs also.


Yeah. I'm just thinking totally different designs also.


Yeah. I'm just thinking totally different designs also.

Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy.


Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy.


Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy.

Maybe we should try something like that. But yeah.


Maybe we should try something like that. But yeah.

I uh thought up a name for our product. Yeah. It's called uh the Real Remote.


I uh thought up a name for our product. Yeah. It's called uh the Real Remote.


So maybe you can include that somewhere.


So maybe you can include that somewhere.

Good. Yeah. We should work in our own room right ? Or not ?


Good. Yeah. We should work in our own room right ? Or not ?

Oh yeah we have to f uh include that in our design as well.


Oh yeah we have to f uh include that in our design as well.